Bell, BCE, Sympatico

You can get out of the Sympatcio Internet contract by cancelling your land line phone service? Or by telling the truth about Bell on the net.
  

Because even many managers in Canada, the government too  are not honest, do not tell the truth, they often also do lie as to the actual reasons their product prices are going up, and/or the quality of their services are going down, thus they are still helping to put themselves out of work, out of business eventually and to be rightfully dismissed too.

 
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, Corporations who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
Bell, BCE shares plunge 12% after court ruling still needs to see how it’s customers do see Bell too…
 
Why is it that even so many managers and their subordinates too  falsely believe they will not reap what they sow now, the bad things they do included?
 
Bell is well over its glory days, and comparing to other operators around the world, it is a mediocre buy at that price. they have been caught sleeping at the wheel too often and not being fair to its customers too often too. They should do their homework first, build on solid ‘sound’ principles first and then see if somebody is willing to put money into it. For now it is simply a purchase of a skeleton out of tune with the industry and a history of burning up good Canadian talent at the expense of the shareholders, and at contempt for the bona fide user. Bell go back to your core business and do a good job and then its time will come. I am glad I own no teachers fund equity.”
 
“I see Bell Canada as an out-of-date behemoth. I recently paid my last ever bill to Bell Canada something I vowed to do in 1999 after realizing just how bad my Bell Canada abuse their land line customers. Recently, at long last, my internet provide, a cable co. began to offer phone over cable in my area. ‘
 
Bell have two very odd charges that add up to a lot of money. And at that, they are of course taxed making it worse:1) Network Access Fee. What is this? Why do we have to pay a fee to access the service that is offered as the landline. This is simply a naked cash grab.2) Touch Tone fee of $2.80. Bell Canada’s switches have been “modernized” for over 20 years where the switch circuit can equally take pulse (rotary dial) and tone dialing. Whether you operate a touchtone phone or a rotary dial, it makes absolutely no cost difference to Bell Canada. However, where about 13 M Canadian lines are paying touch-tone service, this amounts to a naked cash grab of $500M per year for Bell Canada.My Bell Canada landline was $28.69 with Bell Canada.
My Videotron cable phone is $16.95 for identical level of service.That works out to a hair under $160/year with taxes.  
 
Over 2M Canadians now have cable based phone. Most of those were former Bell Canada customers.

I will not miss Bell Canada at all. The Ontario Teachers’ Pension Fund should look very carefully at what it is that they are buying.”
 
 
Undeniably  a lot of people hate do Bell, many past dissatisfied customers who also do undeniably also vent their anger at the government’s, CRTC past poor inactions here too.
 
These comments above by others even do confirm what I have openly said before too that Bell has not only abused their past land line customers, and their internet customers because Bell still has much too many unacceptable poor executives, managers who do falsely abuse their customers, and Bell does try to make any false cash grabs from the customers, or rather plain  old fashion thefts from the customers, that they can and much too often? I have also clearly said before too that Bell cannot be trusted. Bell  needs to be fully regulated. And I have also rightly said someone should tell the Ontario school teachers’ what a bad deal  buying Bell is and that is now being done too.
 
BCE now looking to the Supreme Court for help instead of looking at itself, it’s poor mangers  is another absurdity or Bell threatening to sue me, cutting of my Sympatico internet  for telling the truth about Bell to others too is another unacceptable absurdity now too!!
 
Bell has only itself to blame for all of this, not anyone else, especially not the users, customers.
 
Just a reminder. There are many basic reasons for a Corporation’s downfall. Besides having selected bad, over paid or underpaid executives, managers, employees firstly there is the management style itself., which can include  theft and/or abusing the customers too, over pricing too. Now I am not alone, just one of many in these observations too. A firms starts to abuse the customers. so it’s sales volume and profitability reduces, so to compensate they often do a false survey, generally false cause they have no intention of facing up to their own negative contributions, basic truths, and/or  the blame it on others, unions, interest rates, banks, courts even.. sound recently familiar? So what do they generally do, well they tighter their belts, get rid of some of the employees, the fish begins to rots from the head, but they tend to cut of the tail first, and it still really does not help. So the bad Corporation managers they  tighten the belt some more, they now offer less services to the customers, and increase the pricing too? Sound familiar? Look at how Bell Sympatico had responded to their competitors, their internet services this year and the significant negative feedback, reaction they got too from their customers. The fact that Bell Sympatico, and Rogers too now in the last year have been the most hated, the most negatively discussed topic, corporations on Canada’s internet is undeniable too. Just also look at Bell’s higher pricing over the competition, and it now still also explains why Bell is at war also with it’s competitors and not just the customers too, and why Bell has undeniably so many dissatisfied customers now too. So the Corporations common solution of jacking up the prices, cutting back on the customer services of course predictably next it even leads to a more dramatic economic loss, loss of their customers,  and do you really think they amongst many others executive managers would learn from any of this? Management still had to cut off it’s own head, the bad exemplary  executive managers? The Corporation next had kept on   on tightening the belt so much that they next choked themselves to death, have come to an irreversible place. All simple too. I have seen the same thing been done by computer resellers, and also by large grocery corporations, such as Super C, Provigo, some managers still never do learn from their mistakes and the whole firm  suffers for it, especially next the shareholders.
  
Bell Sympatico next as per the last letter to me, contrary to my rightful objection is falsely going to disconnect my internet services with them as of May 31, 2008 to try to shut me up, they are going to breach my contract with me, and Jim Prentice, Consumer Affairs,  did, do not help in these matters to date. I got a useless reply from the federal consumer’s office too before , even from  Dussault.Madeleine@cb-bc.gc.ca,  like I had said  they  did  not do much good in these matters too to date. How many more citizens will have to wrongfully suffer because of the detail, witnessed  Bell’s immoral management before the federal consumer affairs department and CRTC deals with it all adequately and fully now too?
 
Capping: The Criminal Code of Canada’s section 184.2.c.i-ii DOES NOT warrant them to do packet sniffing. It allows them to ONLY ‘sample’ traffic for quality reasons. You need to remember that these rules were drafted to stop people making their own wire taps on phone technology. What the statement is saying is that: If I am a phone tech I am allowed to connect to the line to check for hums/crackels/dead-service and then do my job to fix it. With Internet traffic you may not capture a person’s traffic unless a court order is issued to do so. The subject of traffic shaping is very different…They are looking into packet headers and making changes that are not a privacy issue…

 “If you were half as good at running a company as you were at lobbying, maybe you’d have a better network,”  Quebecor executive vice-president Luc Lavoie who took a shot at the quality of Bell Canada’s cellphone service: . http://news.aol.ca/article/telecom-summit/258999/
   
 The future is wireless, some would say  and the  past way they have mismanaged their past land line, ISP services too,  clearly indicates they will do it also next with the wireless services too at the users, customers expenses…
  
Recent discussions by both Bell and Rogers on their Corporate need  to get more and more money, with even any excuse, still out of consumers, and to throttle the downloads,  only all clearly confirms the reality as to how poorly managed these same companies in reality are still.. They too now have been wrongfully over subsidized by the CRTC, the Canadian  federal governments now too… now it is rather time the citizens got the break, protection.
   
Reality- Dirty Dirty Bell Sympatico …the most abusive Corporation, firm I have dealt in Canada in my lifetime. Paul Kambulow
 
 Not acceptable, and Comments are not  needed  FOR THERE IS NO WAY TO DISPROVE THE TRUTH..

 

 

 

 
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  1. Actions speak louder than words

     /  July 14, 2008

    Now that Cope has taken over the blood-letting begins at BCE. It would be interesting to track if the firings to come are primarily employees nearing retirement so that the cost savings are due to not paying benefits and appropriate pensions. Those at the executive level have had enough notice to find other placements & leave with large golden parachutes and a wealth in stock. Regular managers and rank & file get the news on Fridays – so long – no time to plan. Does the Ontario Teachers’ Union Pension Fund truly want to be associated with such an image? As a teacher, I am ashamed.

    It’s one thing to cut, and yes BCE is a bemoth. However, you don’t improve customer service by destroying employee morale – or didn’t they teach that in Mr. Cope’s business school. Massive blood-lettings historically have achieved little, as they tend to be a destuctive force within an organization. It is one thing to build a lean and mean organization, but to do so you must motivate. In this instance, all Mr. Cope is accomplishing is having whoever remains ready their resumes. Once the loyalty and enthusiasm of employees disappears, so does customer loyalty, since you are not being served by motivated, but rather frightend customers. I am certainly glad our teaching pension isn’t in Ontario.

    Strategy not slaughter is needed, as well as open communications. As a customer, this tactic has given me the impetus to switch my services to an alternate carrier, as I would not want to support such an unethical approach. My condolences to BCE employees.

    Actions speak louder than words.

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  2. Paul Kambulow

     /  July 14, 2008

    The wheat and the Tares.. No I do not hold much hope of real changes still there at Bell, and I have been dealing with Bell Sympatico for over 18 months, and most people there I had talked too for hours too, undeniably were crooked, liars, dishonest, abusers.. so they will not get much sympathy rightfully .. all crooked bosses exists cause the employees do even let him to exist.

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  3. I am counfounded as to how the Ontario teachers have been misled to buy their bad, overpriced stock now too

    Firstly all, rather most of the executives, managers should be fired.. not the subordinates firstly.

    The Bell accounting managers were decent in my experiences but not the support managers or the executive care ones..

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  4. You can get out of the Sympatcio Internet contract by cancelling your land line phone service? Or by telling the truth about Bell on the net.

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