Virgin Mary

Saturday Topic: Truth and Christianity by TTM

thenonconformer said, Not all Catholics deny worshipping Mary as part of the Godhead…

June 23, 2008 at 2:49 am

Introduction

I am really having a hard time trying to understand what part Mary the mother of Jesus and others, whose husband was Joseph, has in a discussion of the trinity.. The trinity trio of the god head, new testament clearly excludes her and always has. She Mary was not present at man and earth’s creation or present during the period of old testament now too and according to the Bible undeniably too! The catholic expounded definition of virgin Mary is clearly a false add on to the Bible, New testament.

– 5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too. reality, (had they stayed in God’s word they would have been great saints, but it was the devil who discouraged them away..) and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts. Sadly undeniably most pastors who firstly should above all others they do not pray even one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day so no wonder they are embossed also in bulling, abuses, controversies, adultery, cheating, lying, stealing, divorce.

“Felicity Hangnail: Part of the painful tragedy you mentioned happened because some authorities in the RC Church in Quebec did not follow the directions from Rome in accepting candidates for priesthood, letting some wolves in as a result. But then there was also the case when Christ meant nothing to some people’s lives. When salt loses its taste, it is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.”

– The other day I went to visit a local evangelical church, and when I got there the doors was close, even though the sign posted there had said services at 6.00 pm so it appears that they had switched to 7.00 pm services and no one had bothered to change the sign, either cause they did not care about any new visitors or ?? That was the same church where the senior pastor would not talk to me, say hello to me on the street as well..

– >> We have seen over 5000 people trained in 80 days in evangelism – the real deal gospel and we want our nation to see a great harvest.
http://charismania.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/the-smiths-todd-bentley-and-one-moment-in-time-christianity

Now I have seen 3 separate great active evangelical pushes in 3 separate denominations firsthand, the Baptist and the Pentecostal, Alliance ones included.. but what had rightfully concerned me still was the serious leader’s, elders personal immorality and corruption within these churches, which any evangelical outreach still did not deal with! Preaching the Gospel is still not an acceptable alternative to living it. “So in one of the churches the evangelical Baptist outreach leader had sexually propositioned me even.. me a married man, and the pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me, and in the Pentecostal church the outreach pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me as well, in the process the church pastors were stealing money, abusing funds etc..” what were these churches now converting people to in reality? Unacceptable religious abuse. Churches should be sanctuaries .. not prisons. Faith should be the ultimate freedom .. not the ultimate trap.. ( It seems even the bad evangelicals do behave like the bad catholics.. really here there is little differences)

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>>Mary is not a person of the Trinity, if that is what you mean. She does have a very special relationship with the three persons of the Trinity, however. She is:
1. Daughter of the Father ( and I am a son too)
2. Mother of the Son ( She is not my mother)
3. Spouse of the Holy Spirit ( and of Joseph)

>>Have you read my latest post on The Blessed Virgin Mary?

rather have you even fully read the Bible is firstly more applicable Question.. not rather the man made commentaries..

And yes I have often read the Catholic version that Mary now is part of the deity of God.. ridiculous.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics,  and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!

LOVE OR THE CLEAR LACK OF IT SAYS IT ALL

 

Diverting back wrongfully the topic discussion and  your personal insulting derogatory remarks is not the right approach from anyone too especially now since you know still nothing about me or my views.. and it does continue to reflect poorly on you still too…even your typical unChristlike   derogatory and insulting remarks, bulling Reponses,  self righteous, a superiority attitude. and what else?
 
Totally undeniably especially on the net Virgin Mary is projected as a God and not rather truly as my sister in Christ. 
 
THE WAY YOU DO UNDENIABLY POINT FINGERS HERE TO ME YOURSELF AT YOUR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER  IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO.
 
This personal ACT of yours is also a poor example of  any type of professing Christian for all to see on the net.
 
(Mat 7:16 KJV)  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
 
(Mat 7:17 KJV)  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
 
(Mat 7:18 KJV)  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
 
(1 Cor 8:1 KJV)  Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
 
(1 Cor 13:1 KJV)  Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
 
(1 Cor 13:2 KJV)  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
 
(1 Cor 13:3 KJV)  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
 
(1 Cor 13:4 KJV)  Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
 
(1 Cor 13:8 KJV)  Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
 
(1 Cor 13:13 KJV)  And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
 
(Col 3:14 KJV)  And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
 
(1 Tim 4:12 KJV)  but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.
 
(2 Tim 2:22 KJV)  Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
 
(1 Pet 4:8 KJV)  And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
 
(1 Pet 5:14 KJV)  Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.
 
(2 Pet 1:7 KJV)  And to godliness ( add) brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
 
 (Rev 2:4 KJV)  Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
(1 John 4:12 KJV)    If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
 

 WOW! I too would rightfully see a sermon from even you  than hypocritically only hear it preached again.. time you firstly had applied the Bible yourself for all to see.

 LOVE OR THE CLEAR LACK OF IT SAYS IT ALL

 Here is a tip to understanding me better, more easier, simply too… when some do people fight- the bullies, abusers, slanderers, liars, they next generally expect, do want, demand  the rest of us to take sides,  even in their ungodly, unholy wars amongst these undeniably unforgiving Baptists, Pentecostals, Catholics, etc., even the wars even on the net too..I refuse truly to take to take any of their sides, for there is no adequate justifications for their war mongering, fights, absues, and for me they rightfully, clearly now  are both in the wrong,  and they  all firstly should repent now.They all, can  and will know we are Christians by how we love one another, not by our mere words, or our immoral acts in our doctrinal disputes.
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

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The bad critics again

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

>>Show me where Todd said “that God told him to get people to believe in the angel and not Jesus.”

thanks for illustrating clearly what I have written about today as well… http://postedat.wordpress.com/

(2 Cor 11:26 KJV)  In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
 
(Gal 2:4 KJV)  And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
 
And now dealing Todd Bentley who  rightfully feels that  it is necessary to defend himself against his critics and to answer some questions and some of the alleged controversies  plaguing his own ministry.
 
 These often distorted, false attacks now are critical even of three areas.
-Todd Bentley personally including his own spirituality, leadership
-The  poor associates of Todd Bentley
-The doctrines of Christian denomination of the Latter rain movement itself.
 
But firstly it is clearly hard to take now too many of these criticism seriously when they are biased, distorted, one sided bashings, false opponents, based often on false presumptions, false suppositions, false attacks, false accusations, straw arguments, and have  often been done clearly with hidden agendas, and thus they are now not rather even genuine, sincere, humble brethren offering their relevant, related points of views.
 
Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now,  is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too
 
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attend these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..
 
I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humility, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics,  and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!
  
(2 Tim 2:25 KJV)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
  
Theological Response to Criticism of the Lakeland Outpouring and Todd Bentley 55 page download free for all.  Fresh Fire Ministries. Here is a link to the PDF file > Biblical Reasons to Receive God’s Glory and Give it Away in Power Evanglism  http://www.primewriter.com/LakelandC…pdf 

Todd Bentley

including also even

 

 

(2 Cor 11:26 KJV)  In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
 
(Gal 2:4 KJV)  And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
 
And now dealing Todd Bentley who  rightfully feels that  it is necessary to defend himself against his critics and to answer some questions and some of the alleged controversies  plaguing his own ministry.
 
 These often distorted, false attacks now are critical even of three areas.
-Todd Bentley personally including his own spirituality, leadership
-The  poor associates of Todd Bentley
-The doctrines of Christian denomination of the Latter rain movement itself.
  
This too often  whole emotion-driven judgmental critical opposition sadly being seen to any revival, Pentecostal movement in any churches and that is falsely sweeping through the net is firstly more indicative of the personal agendas of the emotional posters, and them now clearly being led by Satan as well.. These Christians who themselves do denounce Pentecostals for being “emotional” tend as we all can see easily to be very , very emotional themselves about all this too.. How contradictory, and hypocritical the Emotions are wrong for Pentecostals but not for their opponents.
 
But first  it is clearly hard to take now too many of these criticism seriously when they are biased, distorted, one sided bashings, false opponents, based often on false presumptions, false suppositions, false attacks, false accusations, straw arguments, and have  often been done clearly with hidden agendas, and thus they are now not rather even genuine, sincere, humble brethren offering their relevant, related points of views.
 
Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now,  is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too
 
I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attended these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..
 
I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humity, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.
 
(2 Tim 2:25 KJV)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
 
Theological Response to Criticism of the Lakeland Outpouring and Todd Bentley 55 page download free for all.  Fresh Fire Ministries. Here is a link to the PDF file > Biblical Reasons to Receive God’s Glory and Give it Away in Power Evanglism  http://www.primewriter.com/LakelandC…pdf
  
    
To be absolutely fair to all in the last 5 decades I personally  have seen no signifant spiritual, behaviorial differences between fundamental, Brethren, Baptists Preachers, and the Alliance, Pentacostal Preachers, or Catholic for me they were mostly all bad.
  

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 Responses to “Todd Bentley”

  1. Michael Says: June 22, 2008 at 8:41 pm    I take it you haven’t actually read any of the criticism?
  2. thenonconformer Says: June 22, 2008 at 8:48 pm    Michael if you make such lying, distorted, false posts it is not a wonder I would disregard rightfully your posts now too and had you also read my blogs you would not have made such a poor statement.. but thanks for illustrating clearly what I have written about here to all .

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 Again:

This too often whole emotion-driven judgmental critical opposition sadly being seen to any revival, Pentecostal movement in any churches and that is falsely sweeping through the net is firstly more indicative of the personal agendas of the emotional posters, and them now clearly being led by Satan as well.. These Christians who themselves do denounce Pentecostals for being “emotional” tend as we all can see easily to be very , very emotional themselves about all this too.. How contradictory, and hypocritical the Emotions are wrong for Pentecostals but not for their opponents.

I have often rightfully said it again and again the posts of the critics tend to be more indicative of how bad the critics themselves now are, their false pride, lack of humility, their ignorance of God, His workings, and the Bible too, their own lack of love and even much more.

Have you not noticed how rarely both Catholics, and evangelicals, do refer to the Bible, rather they like to speak their own views, opinions of other men.. interesting!

(2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

AND WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY TO INSULT, ABUSE, LIE ABOUT THE OTHER CHRISTIANS?

I HAVE BEEN RECENTLY READING AGAIN A MAJORITY OF THE CRITICS OF THE LATTER DAY REVIVALS, and too clearly their often diverting back wrongfully the topic discussions, making often personal insulting, unacceptable derogatory remarks is even THEIR typical unChristlike bulling Reponses, self righteous, a superiority attitude, and what else? is not the right approach from anyone and it does continue to reflect poorly on ALL OF THEM STILL too…

THE WAY THEY THEMSELVES DO UNDENIABLY POINT FINGERS AT THEIR SELF DEFINED OPPONENTS, IN A JUDGMENTAL MANNER, UNLOVING, UNKIND, UNJUSTIFIABLE MANNER IS CLEARLY THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE NOW TOO.

This personal ACT of THEIRS is also a poor example of any type of professing Christian for all to see on the net.

(Mat 7:16 KJV) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

I too would rightfully see a sermon from even them all than hypocritically only hear it preached again from these critics.. it is time they firstly had applied the Bible for all to see.

Sow, show your love to others even here.. mandatory

One would even think this professing Christians sites are a place for a gathering of snakes, jokers, not real professing, decent, living Christians by the type of posts many write now on various topics even. If you profess to be a Christian time you acted like it still too..

Any Christian being plagued with critics, opponents, unsubstantiated personal attacks too now, is really nothing new even to the past apostles, prophets , Jesus Christ himself who have face many similar bullies, groups etc., the devil is too ready an accuser of the Brethren, and tries to continually discredit any work of God even since the time of Jesus Christ himself now too even using inapplicable and distorted Biblical reasons and Bible verses now too

I also would not take any criticism even seriously by persons who admittedly even admit they are opposed to all charismatic’s gifts, speaking in tongues included, and the persons who do not acknowledge even themselves now having never received a clear, specific baptism of the Holy Spirit firstly, and also especially when also they themselves have not attend these meetings, or the meetings any of of the latter rain churches..

http://postedat.wordpress.com/ 

Alberta – the Devil’s belt

 (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

>>I live in Alberta which is the oil rich province and is the largest provider of Oil to America….lots of wealth but sadly materialism is god here….we used to be known as the Bible Belt of Canada but with the influx of great wealth and the combination of Multiculturism, we are spiritually dead…very sad….

I have worked at Syncrude in Fort McMurray Alberta myself, and in Calgary too, and it is very noticeable how bad and also how  they do wrongfully despise poor people in Calgary’s evangelical churches are, as I have often seen myself, I could not find one decent church there.. … and truly Alberta has become the devil’s belt.. where I had pastored for some years a home church for poor people  in Calgary and that included weekly home visitations too,    .. and I am a patron member of the Calgary Multicultural centre too. 

(Rev 3:17 KJV)  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18  I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21  To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
   
Ever notice also how many Conservatives in Alberta are admittedly alcoholics and not just the sad looking, grumpy  people, or the often road rage too? 
 

>> Canada is nice to a point but far too socialistic for my liking…though I live in the West and we are less left then the East…

Being very knowledgeable and actively involved in both Canadian, Albertan Politics for decades, a lying  bad Conservative is not any better than a bad no good Liberal to start of with… 
 
In Calgary the divorce rate is as high as 70 percent, and for those of you who wrongfully think it does not cause suffering, a lowering of one standard of living, serious health problems then do naively dream on.. take an ostrich approach.. but the alarm bells will keep you.. http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/12/24/why-the-high-divorce-rates/
 
 Many people Canada wide do now often complain about still being harassed, bullied by Traffic cops and getting unecessary traffic tickets, especialy it seems in Ontario, Alberta too. Cops are no angels themselves for sure.  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/speed-related-highway-fatalities/
 
Using the  time-honoured way of Canadian western conservative governments , they continue to declare war on the East and democracy in Canada. And instead of  keeping their past  promises to become the more decent parties, the Federal Tories and their bad leader clearly  now learned how to lie big, how to slander the others.. “They use the “big lie” technique: make the distortion big enough and inevitably some of it will stick.” lies like the  Liberals, the NDP and the evil Coalition have become the villains.” The socialist, Left, separatist menace now immediately has miraculously re-appeared in Canada . Where any,  all of the ”  “Communist” and “socialist” have been the standard fare of political vilification on this continent for more than 50 years. They now have acquired an aura of instant evil. It’s socialistic. End argument” .
 
The word “socialist” is too often misconstrued by the Tories and  for them takes on a new negative meaning… a meaning equivalent to being a communist.. But irrationally and hypocritical the Conservatives, Tories seem Cleary not to mind themselbes now providing social welfare to big business still, such as the Banks, the Corporations, telecommunication firms, and automotive makers…..
 
 The Liberals and the others have now supposedly become the very bad socialists, the nation-wreckers for even getting into bed with the separatists,  in spite of the federal Conservatives doing even  much the same only a short time ago. After all, we all had elected a Conservative government, didn’t we? Not true..
 
The fact that the Conservatives only  got a second-in-a-row minority win and that more than 60 per cent of the Canadians had voted against them has somehow become next a convincing Conservative win. We are also being told we were going to have a coalition government of socialists and separatists, which we all had specifically voted against? Such big lies still show to us all what the Conservatives wrongfully  are really like still too.  
    
 I am also still always amazed when some ignorant, immoral persons demand, especially it seems the uncompassionate Conservatives, who clearly too often still fail to change themselves,   they falsely think others being able to change is impossible as well,  so they now do try to enforce the “letter of the law” over the “spirit of the law”.. mote the “spirit of the law” means an attempt to allow a person to repent, rehabilitation, where as the “letter of the law” falsely demands full incarceration, punishments.
 
Furthermore punishing children for the often neglect, sins of their own  parents is still also absurd.. if anyone who should be punished here firstly it should be the parents anyway! Parents buck passing their sins onto the others is really criminal.
 
    
Hey I learned long time ago that merely telling the truth to some people will not work, they have their false idols, false lies they still want to handle, especialy even Conservatives now too, and they will take the Ostrich approach to the truth, but hopefully the truth will next still help some people. 
as far as socialistic tendency the east has had more Christian influences for the last hundred years than the west, Alberta, where the RCMP police force was first established to control the cattle rustlers, drunks…  and the cold indifference towards the needs of the citizens Canada wide too of many Conservative MLA’s MPs I had met in Calgary was pathetic, unacceptable..
 .
“Stephen Harper used bullying tactics and it did not work. Harper seems to have believed that he could have his way because the opposition parties would be too afraid to risk another election. He did not anticipate that he could lose, nor that this could be accomplished without an election. So he turned around and played the victim, as if the naughty opposition parties had ganged up on him. Things went over the edge when he provided a covert recording of an NDP conference call. This is just a step away from Watergate, and will earn him no respect back home. Harper was the aggressor. Canadians may not want another election, but they are not blind to the person responsible for causing this situation in the first place. ” 
 
“  In November 71,000 Canadians lost their jobs. For those families, their economic heart has stopped. Rather than do anything to prevent fatal economic heart-attacks, Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s team was busy wiretapping his opposition. He suspended Parliament to avoid Parliament. The Prime Minister’s economic plan was to, “invest in the stock market.”    ” http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/december/22/letter3/&c=1
  
 
Ironically this issue was one of the main reasons that the Tories failed to get reelected and now they are stupid enough to try it again, they thus will be making the alternative coalition government of liberals being even more attractive to many next instead.
  
 
Like I wrote before
 
“The Bloc got another break when Stephen Harper made a statement pushing for teens who commit serious crimes to serve jail sentences in adult prisons. Mr. Duceppe slammed the Prime Minister for delivering “fresh meat” to prison pedophiles and sending young criminals to “the university of crime.”” http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/election-2008/story.html?id=882332
 
Now really How can a now Alberta, redneck that was personally now even raised in Montreal, Quebec,  now get it so wrong, did he accidently offend the people of Quebec or did he do so knowingly because he not care if it did cause he was trying to please so hard his hypocritical, Conservative rednecks of Alberta, who do emphasize now wrongfully now the letter of   the law over the  spirit of the law.. for now when there is an increase of  problem children, juvenile delinquents,  it is the parents firstly who have to take the majority of the blame and not the children. Surely the self professing Christian evangelical, Alliance church,  Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper knows this from his own personal Bible readings? (Prov  22:6 KJV)  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
 
 
or is Stephen Harper now also, still just a pretender Christian now too not just a pretender poltician?
 
Here there are 2 main concerns, issues
1: The rising alcohol consumption, and the rising taxpayer’s costs of alcohol related sickness, accidents, divorce
2: The  still inadequate police, RCMP response to impaired drivers, year around
 
 
 

Bad Midwives

http://myfirstlove86.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/christianity-religion-part-2/

>> “For far too many converts the process of new birth is long and complicated: Faith may come well before repentance; baptism may come long after faith (or, more confusing still, long before); many people are not sure whether they have been ´baptised´ in the Spirit or not; some have never repented; others have never been baptised. It is usally not their fault. They where badly delivered by inexperienced and untrained midwives.” or immoral midwives

Most people do not have the fullness of the Holy Spirt , pastors now too, because they have nver made Jesus Christ complete Lord of their life.. and this is not an option still too.

Plus now 5 percent of Christians only read their Bible daily, 25 percent of church Christians at the most are really born again too, 70 percent of evangelical pastors are unchristian.. 50 percent of all once loudly professing Christians next give up or sell their faith too. reality, (had they stayed in God’s word they would have been great saints, but it was the devil who discouraged them away..) and it is not what you know that counts but how much of the Bible that you actually practice in love too now that counts. Sadly undeniably most pastors who firstly should above all others they do not pray even one hour a day or read their Bible one hour a day so no wonder they are embossed also in bulling, abuses, controversies, adultery, cheating, lying, stealing, divorce.

Now I have seen 3 separate great active evangelical pushes in 3 separate denominations firsthand, the Baptist and the Pentecostal, Alliance ones included.. but what had rightfully concerned me still was the serious leader’s, elders personal immorality and corruption within these churches, which any evangelical outreach still did not deal with! Preaching the Gospel is still not an acceptable alternative to living it. “So in one of the churches the evangelical Baptist outreach leader had sexually propositioned me even.. me a married man, and the pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me, and in the Pentecostal church the outreach pastor had counseled my wife to divorce me as well, in the process the church pastors were stealing money, abusing funds etc..” what were these churches now converting people to in reality? Unacceptable religious abuse. Churches should be sanctuaries .. not prisons. Faith should be the ultimate freedom .. not the ultimate trap..

Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;Colossians 3:13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

I was in a super great Church once, even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counselling divorce, gossiping, slandering, lying, and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counselling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.

But eventually one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well.

(Micah 3:6 KJV) Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

as to what is a Christian?

http://myfirstlove86.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/christianity-religion/

To be a Christian is based on the greek word anointed, Christos, a person we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirt of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?

(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

(Acts 10:39 KJV)  And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

(Acts 10:40 KJV)  Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;

(Acts 10:41 KJV)  Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

(Acts 10:42 KJV)  And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

(Acts 10:43 KJV)  To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

(Acts 10:44 KJV)  While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

(Acts 10:45 KJV)  And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

(2 Cor 3:2 KJV)  Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

(2 Cor 3:3 KJV)  Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome
http://pbulow.tripod.com/
http://pbulow.tripod.com/anointed.html
http://postedat.wordpress.com