Interesting US citizens don’t elect prez by direct vote


US citizens don’t elect prez by direct vote. How is US president elected?

The US has an electoral college system established by the founding fathers
as a compromise between election of the president by Congress and by popular
vote. Under this system, citizens do not elect the president and
vice -spresident through a direct nationwide vote.

US citizens vote for electors who then vote for the president ensuring that
the presidential election is decided by the combined results of 51 states’
elections. Under the federal system of the US constitution, the nationwide
popular vote has no legal significance, as it is the total electoral votes
that determine the winner and not the nation-wide popular vote. As a result,
it is possible that a candidate wins a majority of votes nationally but
loses the election. This has happened twice in the 1800s and again in the
2000 presidential election when George Bush received fewer popular votes
than Albert Gore, but won because he had a majority of electoral votes.

How does the electoral college system work?

Each state is allocated a number of electors equal to the total of the
number of its senators and the number of its members in the House of
Representatives. The state’s share in the House of Representatives is
determined by its share in the national population, according to the federal
census. The district of Columbia gets 3 electors as per the 23rd amendment
to the constitution, which granted it the same number of votes as the least
populated state. For the November 2008 elections, the Electoral College
consists of 538 electors— one for each of 435 members of the House of
Representatives and 100 Senators; and 3 for the District of Columbia.

How are electors selected?

The process for selecting electors varies. In most cases, the political
parties nominate electors at their state party conventions or by a vote of
the party’s central committee in each state. In most states, the entire list
of electors for the candidate who receives the most popular votes is
appointed as electors for that state, making it a winner-takes-all system.
This makes big states like California (55 electors), Texas (34), New York
(31), Florida (27), Illinois & Pennsylvania (21 each) and Ohio (20)
particularly important for any candidate since trailing even by a small
margin in the popular vote in any of these means losing out on a huge chunk
of electoral votes. But in states like Maine and Nebraska, two electors are
chosen at large by state-wide popular polls and the rest by the popular vote
in each congressional district.

What happens if no candidate wins a majority of the electoral votes?

If no presidential candidate gets a majority of the electoral votes,
according to the 12th Amendment to the US constitution, the presidential
election has to be decided by the House of Representatives. The House would
select the president by majority vote, choosing from the three candidates
who received the highest number of electoral votes. If no vice-presidential
candidate wins a majority of electoral votes, the Senate will select the
vice-president by majority vote from the two candidates who received the
greatest number of electoral votes. If the House of Representatives fails to
elect a president by Inauguration Day, the vice-president elect serves as
acting president until the deadlock is resolved.

When and how do the electors elect the president?

The electors meet on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in
December, which this year would mean December 15, 2008. At the meeting, they
vote by ballot for the president and vice-president. 

This is a very impressive speech by Sarah Palin to all Americans and thus it really show why it is no surprise now that the Democrats theytry  to falsely abuse her, bash her now.

For me the biggest hypocrisy of the election is the liberals,  democrats who would lie to us and say they are angels, that they do not lie, or abuse, slander, use negative messages against the other side.. ha ha ha.. not even when they are sleeping? and how stupid do they think we are now too.   




I had read on many lying Sites that Barrack Obama does not drink alcohol and  that is not true.. is Obama an alcoholic

Angels, demons, devil, Sarah Palin and the Bible, are for real



It is often also non surprising to me that people who are closed to be led by the Holy spirit, to Pentecostalism, peaking in  tongues seem to instead openly too prefer the demonic spirit of drunkenness.Why?

To some persons no other issue tends to divide the church and evoke as much deep seated emotion as the question of alcohol use as well , but only for the alcoholics now too, for in general,   clearly the issue of gay marriages, but note esepcially speaking in tongues, Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and Healing, gifts of the Holy spirit, impartation, cause more discussions and oppositions too, as the Anglican Church splits, and as the latests net exposes about the Todd Bentley Florida revival has clearly shown,

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Survey of Bible Doctrine: Angels, Satan, Demons

By: Sid Litke , Th.M. (Bio)

The Doctrine of Angels

I. The Existence of Angels


      1. 34 books (of 66 total) refer to angels.

      2. Christ taught their existence (Matt.8:10; 24:31; 26:53 etc.).

      1. Angels were created by God (Ps.148:2,5; Col.1:16). Only God had no beginning (1 Tim.6:16).

      2. Angels were created before the world and man (Job 38:6,7).

      3. Angels were created holy (Ezek.28:15; Jude 6).

  • A.. The Bible assumes their existence.

    B. The Bible describes their creation.

II. The Nature of Angels


      1. They have intellect (Matt.28:5; 1 Pet.1:12).

      2. They have emotions (Job 38:7; Luke 2:13; 15:10)

      3. They have will (Jude 6).


        a. An angel can be in only one place at one time (Dan.9:21-23; 10:10-14)

        b. Although they are spirit beings, they can appear in the form of men (in dreams – Matt.1:20; in natural sight with human functions – Gen. 18:1-8; 22: 19:1; seen by some and not others – 2 Kings 6:15-17).

    • 1. They exist as spirits – not with material bodies (Heb. 1:14).

      2. They cannot reproduce (Mark 12:25).

      3. They do not die (Luke 20:36).

      1. They have more knowledge than man (Matt.24:31; Luke 1:13-16) but less than God (Matt.24:36).

      2. They have more power than man (2 Pet. 2:11; Acts 5:19) but less than God.

  • A. Angels are personal beings.

    B. Angels are spirit beings.

    C. Angels have communicable attributes in a degree greater than man but less than God.

    D. Angels are organized and ranked. One “archangel,” Michael is named (Jude 9). There are also “chief princes” (Dan.10:13), “seraphim” (Is.6:1-3) and “cherubim” (Gen.3:22-24).

III. The Ministries of Angels

    A. They worship God. Angels are continually involved in praising God (Rev.4:6-11) through describing His attributes (Is.6:3) and singing praises (Rev.5:8,9).

    B. They ministered to Christ. Angels announced His birth (Luke 1:26-33; 2:13), protected Him (Matt.2:13), strengthened Him (Matt.4:11; Luke 22:43), and explained to men His resurrection (Matt.28:6) and ascension (Acts 1:10,11).

    C. They carry out God’s government. Angels are God’s servants (Ps.103:20; Heb.1:7) and messengers (Luke 1:19; 2:8-14). They can be involved in controlling nature (Rev.7:1; 16:3,8,9), nations (2 Kings 19:35), and Satan and demons (Dan.10:13,21; 12:1). They will perform future judgment for God (Matt.13:3a; Rev.15:1; 16:1-21).

    D. They protect God’s people. Angels are sent to serve believers (Heb.1:14). They protect the godly (Ps.34:7; Dan.6:20,23), oppose our enemies (Ps.35:4,5) and are specifically assigned as guardians of individuals (Matt.18:10). They are God’s agents in answering prayer (Acts 12:7) even bringing physical provisions (Gen.21:17-20; 1 Kings 19:5-7).

    E. They assist believers at death (Luke 16:22; Jude 9).

The Doctrine of Satan

I. The Existence of Satan

    A. Seven Old Testament books and every New Testament writer refer to Satan.

    B. Jesus referred to Satan (Matt.13:39; Luke 10:18; 11:18).

II. The Personality and Names of Satan

    A. Personality – He has intellect (2 Cor.11:3), emotions (Rev.12:17) and will (2 Tim.2:26.

    B. Names – He is called Satan, the Devil (slanderer), Lucifer (son of the morning), Beelzebub (Lord of the flies – Matt.12:24), and Belial (lawless – 2 Cor.6:15), the evil one (1 John 5:19), the tempter (1 Thess.3:5), the prince of this world (John 12:31), the god of this age (2 Cor.4:4), the prince of the power of the air (Eph.2:2), the accuser of the brethren (Rev.12:10), and angel of light (false light – 2 Cor.11:14), a serpent (Rev.12:9), and a dragon (Rev.12:3).

III. The Nature of Satan

    A. He is a created angelic being. He was created as part of the angelic realm (Eph.6:11,12; Ezek.24:18) and was the highest in rank of them all (Ezek.28:12-14).

    B. He is an enemy of righteousness. He is a murderer (John 8:44), a liar (John 8:44), and accuser (Rev.12:10) and our adversary (1 Pet.5:8).

    C. He is a limited creature. He is limited by God (Job.1:12). He is not God’s equal (1 John 4:4). He is not omniscient, omnipotent or infinite in any way. Believers with God’s help can resist him (James 4:7).

IV. The Fall of Satan


        a. Cast out of the mountain of God (v.16, cf. Rev. 12:4)

        b. Cast to the ground (v.17)

        c. Consumed by fire (v.18, cf. Rev.20:10)

    • 1. His privileges – Free access to the garden of Eden (v.12) and to God’s holy mountain (= God’s presence – v.14)

      2. His rank – “Cherub” (vs.14,16)

      3. His judgment –

      1. The imagery of a “star” and “falling from heaven” (v.12) suggests a supernatural fulfillment. “Stars” (v.12,13) are symbolic of the angelic realm elsewhere (Job 38:6,7; Rev.12:4).

      2. The five “I will’s” of vss. 13 & 14 are literally true of Satan and only metaphorically true of Babylon’s king. This ultimate form of pride (“I will be like the Most High” – v.14) fits the New Testament description of Satan’s fall 1 Tim.3:6.

  • Key Passages – Ezekiel 28; Isaiah 14

    A. Ezekiel 28:11-19 is a prophetic lamentation over the “King of Tyre” who is described in language that fits Satan’s fall and not a mere human king. Satan is distinguished form the human ruler of Tyre in 28:2 (“prince/ruler”) and called a “king” in 28:12 (Not even Israel’s rulers were called “King”). Though Tyre had a human “ruler”, Satan was the real “King” behind that wicked kingdom.

    B. His attributes – Moral perfection (v.12) Sinless at his creation until his fall (v.15)

    C. His appearance – Perfect in beauty (v.12b,13)

    D. Isaiah 14:12-15 also seems to describe Satan’s fall. Satan is manifest here by the king of Babylon. As in Ezekiel 28, Satan is pictured here as the real “king” behind the wicked human kingdom of Babylon.

V. The Activity of Satan

    Satan is seeking to oppose God’s plan by promoting evil in every way possible.

    A. Indirect Activity – He works indirectly through the world (in which he has great freedom and power – John 12:31; 1 John 5:19) and the flesh (Gal.5:19-21). The world, the flesh and the devil are not three separate enemies of the Christian. Rather Satan works through the evil world system (1 John 2:13-15) to exploit the fleshly nature that still wars within us (Rom.7:18; Gal.5:19-21).




        a. He tempted Christ (Matt.4:1-11).

        b. He attempted to thwart Christ’s work (John 8:44; Matt.16:23; Luke 22:31).

        c. He possessed Judas to accomplish the betrayal (John 13:27).

        a. He blinds their minds to hinder their understanding of the gospel (2 Cor.4:4).

        b. When the gospel is heard or understood, he tries to hinder its effect (Luke 8:12).

        c. He uses persecution (Rev.2:10) and false religions (Rev.2:13) to hinder the effect of the gospel.

        a. He tempts believers (to pride – 1 Chron.21:1-8; to materialism – John 2:15; James 5:1-7; to immorality – 1 Cor.7:5; to lie – Acts 5:3; to discouragement – 1 Pet.5:6-10; to be unforgiving – 2 Cor.2:10,11 etc.).

        b. He hinders the ministries of believers (1 Thess.2:18; Rev.2:10).

        c. He promotes false teaching among believers (1 John 4:1-4).

        d. He promotes anger, bitterness and division (Eph.4:26,27; 2 Cor.2:5-11). Note: See the supplement – “Satanic Activity and Spiritual Warfare” for more information on how Satan and his demons work and how we must respond.

    • 1. In Christ’s ministry

      2. In unbelievers

      3. In believers

  • B. Direct Activity – He works directly by deception, temptation, attack and possession.

The Doctrine of Demons

I. The Existence and Nature of Demons


      1. The evidence – It is clear that Satan has a following of like beings (“Prince of the demons” – Matt.12:24; the Devil and his angels – Matt.25:41). Demons are described throughout the Scriptures (Dan.10:10-20; Matt.10:1; Eph.6:12).

      2. The time – At the fall of Satan, many angels followed him in that rebellion (demons are fallen angels). A third of the angelic host seem to have fallen with Satan (Rev.12:4 – the imagery of Satan as a “dragon” and angels/demons as “stars”).


        a. They are deceitful (1 Tim.4:1-3; 2 Cor.11:13-15).

        b. They are immoral (Gen.6:4; Jude 6,7).

    • 1. Demons are by nature the same kind of spirit beings as angels. They are personal, intelligent beings.

      2. Demons are morally wicked (“unclean spirits” – Matt.10:1; “evil” – Luke 7:21; “wickedness/darkness” – Eph.6:12).

      3. Demons are invisible but also able to appear (Satan – Zech.3:1; Matt.4:9.10; Demons – Rev.9:7-10; 16:13-16).

      4. Demons have great intelligence. They knew Christ’s identity and power (Mark 1:14,34; 5:6,7). They know their own future judgment (Matt.8:28,29). They can attempt to predict the future (Acts 16:16). They’re knowledge is not infinite. They learned it through thousands of years of experience and observation.

      5. Demons have great strength (Mark 5:3; Acts 19:16; Rev.9:1-11).

  • A. Their Creation – God created demons as part of the angelic realm originally (Col.1:16).

    B. Their Fall –

    C. Their Nature –

II. The Activity of Demons


      1. They cause physical ailments (dumbness – Matt.9:32,33; blindness – Matt.12:22; convulsions – Matt.17:15-18; Mark 9:20; self-injury – Mark 5:5; 9:22).

      2. They cause mental disorders (withdrawal, nudity, filth, irrational behavior – Luke 8:27-29; suicidal mania – Mark 9:22).

      3. They inflict problems upon believers as well, if allowed by God (Job’s troubles – Job 2:7-9; Paul’s “thorn in the flesh”: – 2 Cor. 12:7).

  • Demons are involved in carrying out Satan’s evil plans (2 Cor.11:15). What Satan is said to be doing (see above) is their work directly.

    A. Demons promote idolatry (Lev.17:7; Deut.32:17; Ps.106:36-38). This activity is blatant in primitive cultures.

    B. Demons are active in hindering the spiritual progress of believers every way they can (see Satan’s activities). They are deliberate and organized in these attempts (Eph.6:10-12).

    C. Demons promote false teaching (1 Tim.4:1).

    D. Demons can possess and afflict people (see supplement).

    E. Demons promote selfishness and division in the church (James 3:13-16).

Recommended Reading and References

Fred Dickason, Angels, Elect and Evil. Chicago: Moody Press, 1975.


anyone who does not believe that evil sprits exists clearly are very self revealing, they do show more about themselves even as to how spiritual, and morally ignorant they themselves now are.. so now in desperation they have to falsely bash Sarah Palin , who rightfully believes in Jesus Christ, Evil Spirt, the bad witches too, to falsely try to deny, cover up their own ignorance, lack of spirituality and morality still . But it is a futile, vain approach, for they themselves have been spotted as to who they really now are.. and what they unacceptably try to do.. falsely ABUSE OTHERS NEXT TOO.

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