Seperation of the State and Church

 (2 Cor 6:17 KJV)  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

 
Anyone still wonder why the Conservatives cannot get out of their minority government slump? Over and over again I have the citizens say the same thing even face to face today.. “the politicians do nothing about the immoral, lying, stealing, no good, abusive Corporations in Canada like Bell Sympatico  because they too often do the same thing. The Conservatives included.” http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/the-canadian-government-courts-and-bell/
 
”Keep State & Church separate, or they will intertwine and once they are merged, vice enters and corruption begins” ?  “And I agree, 100% of all Churches too  should be investigated as should all politicians (those who govern/lead through laws) even in regards to what, if any, “crossovers” have occurred that are violations of State law.”
 
Some people think that  Separation of Church and State politics, is the main issue that  will help to stop the acts of much too many bad guys in politics and religion.. There are bad guys, bad Ministers now too  continually in or out of relgion in fact.
 
Separation of Church and State politics, and related corruption is just a very small small portion, issue.. Rather all major perversions, corruptions by anyone, politicians, priests, pastors are,  is unacceptable anywhere and at anytime too. For both politicians, Pastors and cops all civil and public servants too are here to help look after the good welfare of the citizens and if they are not doing that JOB NOW properly they all should be helped to become unemployed for sure BY THEIR CORRUPTIONS, ABUSES BEING EXPOSED TO ALL..
 
Religious or not is not the issue.. but the second law of engineering thermodynamics is, energy goes from a higher level to a lower level, it degenerates, meaning even water unrestrained flows downhill, or 30 percent of all people need to be put into a real jail it seems before they will stop their wrong doings and start to do good.. reality.. for self supervision or self regulation does not work, crudely it is just masturbation.. In reality too many people left on their own will continue to cheat, lies, steal, abuse others, the pastors and cops, politicians included now. They all need to be regulated, supervised by the governments and some now rightfully even arrested too. A man’s enemies, bullies and thieves will be those persons even from his own family are still a reality too.
 
The really bad persons unless they are exposed, punished will likely never change for the good on their own in fact? Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty works best for everyone. Now I have been writing letters to news editors, governments. for that is part of their job now too, and I have helped in exposing the bad guys and the bad corporations for decades too and thus rightfully helping to get rightfully deal with some of the really unacceptable bad guys and so should we all..
 
Us Senator John McCain  had fallen under condemnation by the news media for accepting the endorsement of Rev John Hagee . Wikipedia describes “John C. Hagee [as] the founder and senior pastor of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, a non-denominational charismatic church with more than 19,000 active members.”
 
Rev John Hagee clearly states that he is not anti catholic or antigay but he is Anti Semitism and he is working on behalf of Israel and this highlights his belief.. but his dispensational theology support of Israel are not substantiated by the New Testament still. God loves both Jew and Arab as well as all of the Gentiles.
 
The Bad Unacceptable theology – Christian Dispensationalism – Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies – Israel and the Church. It is not a coincident that too many Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the THE HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO. Toni, at FilesfromToni blog has posted a very good link to vital information for those wondering where the money which is given to different Christian Zionist organizations is really going and how its NOT being used. http://filesfromtoni.blogspot.com/  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/good-and-bad-unacceptable-theology/  http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/tag/israel/
 
The criticism of Rev Hagee, right or wrong is just the tip of the iceberg of discontentment against too many so called Christian pastors in America.  I know I pastored a church for a few years, and in the last 50 years I have encountered too many many mostly bad pastors, and 70 percent of evangelical pastors have admitted they had committed adultery and they even do counsel divorce for a start. The false misappropriation of funds in many churches in north America is so common so I had rightfully asked even the US government to investigate all of the churches- Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist for their possible misappropriation of funds equally, annually in fact months ago too. 
 
For a start most churches ask you to the, give ten percent of your income to the church, but tithing is also an old testament concept and not enforceable in the new testament. In the old testament the tithers, and those who received the tithers had to insure that 1/7 of the donations were given to the local poor people. So I asked any church that advocated tithe that they prove as well they have kept this Biblical requirements, for almost none do it for it start. On top of that any clergy receiving tithing in the old testament was not allowed to own any real estate , tangible property too. If you are going to preach the law here on tithing too, then you yourself should observe all of it, not just mostly steal the tithe.
 
It seems these days Pastors, cops, politicians, Ministers tend to be still next equally all bad if left on their own, unsupervised?

 

And  Jesus never sold one Sermon of his, nor the Apostles… so I rightfully cannot stand those greedy, money lusting charlatans who clearly try to make money by selling Christian literature, tapes, music, or what ever on the subject of Prophecy, healing, etc., .. and no matter what their excuses are now too.. Jesus said as you have freely received so freely give. And that is what I have done the last 4 decades too… and so should we all, trusting in the Faith for God to supply our needs, not begging for money, or wrongfully stealing by pretending to be a non profitable tax exempt corporation, organization basically so not to pay taxes as well.. How greedy can you get and pretend it to be Christian now too is the game many wrongfully play too even pastors….
   
Now there is another common scam I do not like, groups, churches who often choose a valid cause, since the best way to catch fish, suckers is with live bait, and then do next do ask for related donations, money.. this advertised cause tends to be rather an inefficient  self employment creation, and is not a real public services.. for to get most complaints, issues handled properly all you do generally have to do is to post it firstly on the net, and also write to the News media  with copies to the   

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Prosperity

The prosperity Gospel, the perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers. It has been my too many years of personal experiences that the perverse prosperity prostitutes, adulterers, idolterers persons, who even too often do mainly  tithe to get richer are still not rather  helping  the poor persons,  for they do instead  generally as well despise the poor and needy persons, and yes whiile  they falsely covet to be rich and yes they can be found in both the secular and religious camps, and their behaviors tend to be very similar. Even the religious prosperity seekers, persons, the rather still carnal persons, the Judas followers,  are not much good.. while they now even do profess to be moral good living persons  still when it comes to making more money they clearly bend their rules on morality, ethics, honesty, and they will even cheat, lie steal to acquire more wealth… they mainly still also do see other people as slave objects, slaves that can be used to help them increase their personal acquisitions and they will cast out, sell out their poor  relatives, relationships still too..  but they still will even profess to be good persons now too… and try to by their way into heaven.

(Mat 25:34 KJV)   Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:
 
(James 2:1 KJV)  My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2  For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3  And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4  Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7  Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8  If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9  But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
 
(1 Tim 5:8 KJV)  But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
 
(1 John 1:9 KJV)  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
(Jer 2:20 KJV)  For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.  

(Mat 23:37 KJV)  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
 
(Prov 23:5 KJV)  Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven. 
 

 (Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

 
(3 John 1:2 KJV)  Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
 
So how is your soul prospering, are you helping, blessing the poor and needy persons or are you really rather poor spiritually yourself, broke?
 

 

 

 

 

Our God speaks too

Hearing the Voice of God
The Thrilling Mystery of Hearing from God – Divine Guidance Made Easier
 
We long to know what to do; God longs for us to know him. Guidance can come in a flash, but getting to know someone – especially when that Someone is infinite – is an adventure that never ends. Whereas we want a five-minute consultation, the Lover of our souls wants for us a lifetime of ever-increasing intimacy, culminating in an eternity of incomprehensibly greater intimacy.Let’s see some biblical examples of how easy it is to miss God.
-Jacob went to sleep unaware that he was literally lying over the very gateway of heaven (Genesis 28:11-17).
-Young Samuel could not distinguish the Lord’s voice from that of the man he served every day (1 Samuel 3:4-5).
-Multiplied thousands of people rubbed shoulders with the Son of God. They heard teaching like no one had ever given. They saw miracles that took their breath away. And almost none of them had a clue as to who he was.
-For miles, the resurrected Jesus walked and talked with two of his disciples, and they never realized who was speaking to them. ‘ . . . they were kept from recognizing him.’ The moment they discovered who it was, he vanished (Luke 24:13-31).

Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.
2 Chronicles 15:15  . . . They sought God eagerly, and he was found by them. . . .
Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
Psalms 119:145 I call with all my heart; answer me, O LORD, and I will obey your decrees.

 

Follow after God alone … God speaks too …     

My sheep hear My voice,   and I know them,  and they follow Me.  John 10:27 

Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat4:4 (There is no life without hearing words from the mouth of God.)

But we have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear.
 

 
 
I also learned that I personally can Hear the Voice of God in more ways than one..   Jesus now in reality is not a thought or an ideology, He is a Person. People have relationships, and relationships presupposes  mutual  communication.  The Holy Spirit can and will speak to us directly if we let him to speak to us or let  others next to speak to us, to guide us but he does want us to mature, to seek Him, to seek His face for our guidance. We still cannot make our on  views, experience now still as God’s rule for everyone else. But many people do. Some people wrongfully do claim that God today can only speak to each one of us personally, to all of us through his written Word the Bible, cause that is all they have experienced maybe? but in fact I am very sure that these very same people God often cannot still even personally reach them firstly even by his Word… you know that is why so many people read the Bible and have different interpretations, doctrines, denominations even cause it is really not God who is talking to them through it… mere man is or self or the devil..  And yet many Bible scholars, pastors who know the Bible are blind to God’s truths and yet they know the Word on the outside.. their real inadequacy is that they really still do not, did not know God on a deep personal level, they have not communicated with Him and thus they are still in the wilderness themselves still. It is one thing to know the Word, but it is another thing to know the Author himself. How well do you know the author, not just his writings?
 
The manner of God speaking to us through Scripture has much not to do with what we are we mainly desire to know, or what personally are dealing with at the time but  what he wants to reveals to us. We are always slaves, servants of God who listen to his will, his instructions above all.  But don’t personally read into the Bible as to what is being said rather first listen to Him, God, the Holy Spirit explaining next  the scriptures to you personally.  Allow the Scripture to  “leap off the page” at you,  as receive his divine revelation,  and His Bible passages take on a meaning that you hadn’t noticed maybe even a moment earlier.  There can be a passage of time between the initial reading of logos before it becomes rhema . One might as well read the same Scripture over and over again, and then next one day it “speaks”.  This act of divine speaking, revelation of God through his Word is called “rhema” in the original Greek language of the New Testament. It means the spoken word.  This is opposed to the Greek word “logos”, or the  written word. The Bible itself is also the logos. Jesus is called The Logos  He is also the personification of Scripture 
 
 Have you now personally limited God as to what he can do firstly in your own  life   by your own church teaching, your own experiences, your own limitations, your lack of faith? for now too many people have. Let me be clear for God to speak to us we first have  to get right with him through Jesus Christ and next also to exercise our own free will, to seek him, allow him to speak to us. We have our own duties and acts, responsibilities to carry our first here too.  We ourselves mainly still do determine if God can, will speak to us firstly. God is not capricious about speaking to us in this, or in any other manner. He does not play favorites, loving one person more than another by speaking to them . Indeed, it says it is God’s good pleasure to give us all that He has .What now also hinders communication with God is often our own attitudes and preconceptions. God’s ways are indeed higher than our ways  but this does not mean that God is inscrutable or unknowable in any real, practical sense .   We must also next act by faith on the Word we have received . Sometimes this acting is nothing more than a slight attitude adjustment, a confession, a willingness. Sometimes it is more dramatic, like asking someone to forgive you of something you did to them years prior. The point is rhema not acted on will next often do you no good. Hearing from God presupposes that you will also next do what He says for you personally  to do. If you are unwilling to do what He says now, next to you will not continue to enjoy His wonderful benefits of communication with you personally as well  Ask him God first to help you do his will, to always carry it out as well.

You mainly will hear from God  only when you are willing to listen,  when you are focused on His Being, only when the things of the world and your own circumstances have taken rightly the  back seat in priority. Seek God and you will find Him, personal only seek for revelations, truths alone and you may not.

The Scripture does describes human beings as tripartite in make up, that is, having spirit, soul, and body (1 Thessalonians 5:23). The body is the material part of us that turns to dust when we die. The soul is our mind, will, emotions, and conscience. The reborn spirit is that part of us that communicates and is cognizant of God. These later two are non-material (2 Corinthians 4:18). Some people are using still their corrupted, unregenerated, human spirit to try to understand God and his truths and they will fail at it still too. When one reads the Scripture one can be  literally reading partially into the heart of God Himself . Or one can be reading the word and still be blind to the truth cause one has still unrepentant sins in one’s life as King Saul in the Bible found out when he could no longer hear God speaking to him too so he falsely consulted the mediums, witches instead of repenting of his past sins. (1 Sam 16:14 KJV)  But the spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. (Psa 66:18 KJV)  If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:

In addition to our need of a real desire to seek God and exposure to the Scripture, obeying and also sharing, giving these revelations of God away to others also brings next even more revelations from God to us next too.

There is involved here also a spiritual law of giving and receiving, of sowing and reaping of God’s revelations to us  too. Jesus also had said give and it will be given back to you (Luke 6:38).

 How much you give can dictate thus also how much you next may receive back from God  and even from others.  I do as well encourage you to share, to tell someone ales bout the Words you have receive from God in His Word. This ensures, in part, that you will even receive more truths, revelations from God in the future. (Eccl 11:1 KJV)  Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days.

But we also always do need to have daily fresh words from God.. Past testimonies are not good enough alone.

Jesus taught  a model prayer for us – it is called the Lord’s prayer (Matthew 6:8-13). One of the sentiments expressed in it is the promise of daily bread. God wants us to have bread on a daily basis. Bread can be thought of as physical food, but also as spiritual food (or rhema). Jesus said He is the bread of life (John 6:35). He said unless we eat of His body we would not receive life (John 6:53). This wasn’t a literal eating of His flesh, rather, the consumption of His thoughts as they are penned in Scripture, the imbibing of His Spirit resulting in the new birth. So as we “eat” of His Word daily (Jeremiah 15:16), we can expect, on average, a word a day, a communication from God through also His Scripture that is specific to you. This has been my own personal experience.  But God has often spoken to me outside of the scriptures now as well directly, he personally had told me some specific discernment that I had needed to know as well.  Still most people who went on to be great Christians had regular, daily morning and evening Bible devotionals with God.  

God still says to meditate in His Word day and night . Remember though, you have also  got to give it away to get more, and you have got to get your head in the Word also .

Moses was meek, humble and that was why God could speak to him? Are you proud or a humble person yourself?

(1 Cor 10:21 KJV)  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.

(Psa 34:18 KJV)  The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

(Psa 51:17 KJV)  The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

(Isa 57:15 KJV)  For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

(Isa 66:2 KJV)  For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
 
 
It is quite possible, most likely that One can know God, even work for him and yet still basically to not know him at all, it seems most pastors do not even know God now too, just as it is possible to know the name of the US President, or a Prime Minister, or any leader for that matter and yet basically still you really personally do not know them. Now next ext even if you had met these persons, or work with them too, it still is very likely you do not really know them as to what they are really like. So it is with God now too.
If you seek God with your whole heart though you will find Him. And if you are also now busy doing your own thing, seeking to fulfill your own goals, pleasure, priorities, you still this will never get to know God as well.
(Psa 51:17 KJV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
(Isa 57:15 KJV) For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
(Isa 33:17 KJV) Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty: they shall behold the land that is very far off.;

and if I next ask God if he really knows you? what will he say next?

Most people seem really shocked, in total disbelief at hearing that God can even talk to you personally. But God now can do more than just talk to you he can permeate your whole life, your whole being with his presence and reality as well, but then why does he not do that to everyone all the time?
 

Clearly one of the unique, great, valid emphasis of the Pentecostals from the other denominations is also their emphasis on personally hearing God speak. even personally and collectively speaking to us, verbally individually or in a collective setting by prophecy.

(1 Cor 14:26 KJV)  How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27  If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28  But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29  Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31  For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
(1 Cor 14:39 KJV)  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40  Let all things be done decently and in order.

The other Other denominations do wrongfully limit to God speaking to us only in his Words the Bible or through only the preacher.  Now the word of God is generally revealed to us in two different ways. There is written direct Scripture (the Greek word logos), which shows us all  God’s general will. There are next also times when the Holy Spirit quickens a particular Scripture or otherwise gives us a direct word (the Greek word rhema) concerning God’s specific will in a particular  situation. We have to be open to both ways too. 
(John 10:27 KJV)  My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

The WHOLE Church is to also encourage the personal development of gifts of the Holy Spirit, especially prophecy
(1 Cor 14:39 KJV)  Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.. 40   Let all things be done decently and in order.
 
(1 Cor 14:13 KJV)  Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. (And no exceptions now too)
 
I was surprised to read it is not just today that some people object to anyone prophesying.
 
(Num 11:24 KJV)  And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle. 25 And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease. 26  But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp. 27  And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. 28  And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. 29  And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD’S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

God speaks often to me says often to me, I will guide and lead you next one step at a time as to what you should do, who to write and who to see as well

Isaiah 40:31, “But those who wait on the LORD Shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint.”

http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html  http://pbulow.tripod.com/prohecy.html
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Preparation for God and His Worship

“God is calling us to come to him

1. First, you should prepare to meet God in worship we prepare for worship by drawing near to God in our hearts even at home, at work, in our surroundings, hourly, daily and not just a few hours on Sunday!

When God said five times, “You did not return to me,” he did not mean that they should have come more often to a physical place of worship. The returning was not a physical movement. Returning to God was a movement of the heart, not just  a movement of the body. There is a heart preparation to be done in order to meet God.

Jesus said, “This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me” (Matt. 15:8). When this is the case the preparation needed is a movement of the heart from far to near, and yet it is a movement that is not measured in inches or miles.

— It is measured with the tape of attention — you may not even be thinking of God Saturday night or Sunday morning. So your heart is far from him measured by attention.

— Or it may be measured by the tape of focus — you may have some attention on God but it is broken up by other things and there is no focused attention that gets God clearly in view and makes him the primary object of attention.

— It is measured by the tape of desire — you may feel little desire for God but be very much caught up in a greater desire for sports or finances or a trip to the lake, while the desire and the longing for God is weak by comparison.

— Or it can be measured by the tape of trust and hope — your trust in God may be weak and your hope faint and wavering.

— Or it may be measured by the tape of delight or joy in God — you may feel much more pleasure Saturday night in a late movie than in meeting God in the morning.

Everyone of us is far from where we want to be on one of these measuring tapes every week.

Our primary goal is to meet God , and to commune with him and to hear him and to speak to him and to savor him and this is very hard to do and that it takes teaching an and preparation of heart, a conscious priority — a sustained, God centered focus on dealing with God without mere human distraction. 

2. The second preparation for God and his  worship is that we renounce all known sin in our lives before coming to worship God.

The wealthy people of Israel tried to make love with their true husband while keeping a mistress on the side. They tried to worship God while concealing sin in their lives. They also oppressed the poor, and crushed the needy, while trying to live in wealth and luxury.

Worship will inevitably become a weak, empty form and ritual if we try to keep on with it while our hearts are running after other gods. God will gladly take the dirtiest sinner into his arms on Sunday morning who comes with a broken and contrite heart intent on forsaking all known sin and trusting in Jesus for cleansing. But God will not be mocked by those who make like they love him and willfully break his law during the week. So the second act of preparation is to confess and renounce all known sin and come to the  worship of God cleansed by the blood of Jesus and resting in his forgiveness and hope.

3. The third preparation for the worship of God is that we take note of how God has been trying to get our attention.

Five times in Amos 4 God says that he had done specific things in the lives of his people to turn them back to himself. And five times it says, “Yet you did not return to me.” Each of these things God had done to get their attention could be explained as natural events with no divine cause. But God holds Israel accountable to listen and respond. That’s the meaning of “Yet you did not return to me.”

In not hearing the voice of God, or seeing the hand of God, Israel failed to prepare to meet him. That is what we must not do. We must wake up and stop looking at our lives like secular, scientific,  naturalists. God is doing things in your life which are gracious providential messages to return to him and trust him. Take note of what he God has been saying to us in our lives to draw us to himself.

4. Finally, worship starts by also going to a church where Christ’s truth is honored and fellowshipping also during the week with the Body of Christ, in prayer as well.

The Israelites were clearly a religious people. They came to Bethel and came gladly. But they had lost touch with the God of truth and they were not worshiping in truth. There were some left over forms like tithing and thank-offerings and sacrifices. But the very center and heart of worship was missing — the true God.

“So I close with these suggestions for how we might prepare ourselves and others to meet effectively our God even in the Church services:

1. Set aside some time during the week and pray for all of the Church services, and especially Saturday night begin the orientation onto worship. Turn off the television and set your mind on things that above with the word of God and a time of prayer. Pray that God will be manifest in the services, that men will be convicted of sins and judgement and will thus repent.

2. Saturday night also do Go to bed early enough so that you are fresh and emotionally alive Sunday morning. The price of late night movies or parties on Saturday will be powerless worship Sunday morning.

3. Get up in time Sunday so that you do not have to rush to get to church, but have a little time to be alone with God and ask his blessing on you and your family and on the church. I can almost promise you that you depth of your communion with God in the service will be directly proportionate to the way you have sought the Lord for his blessing Saturday night and Sunday morning. This will take some discipline and some planning. But you will probably never turn back once you taste the fruit.

4. When you come into the sanctuary begin to seek the Lord. That means that by and large there will be a holy hush across the sanctuary. But it will be a very different kind of stillness than the awkward silence before a Sunday School class where you want everyone to mill around and talk and nobody is. There is a world of difference. And the difference will be made and felt by whether hundreds of you really going hard after God, or just politely waiting for the show to begin. You will make the difference in those minutes as to whether a visitor senses cool distance or the reality of God. The very point of those moments of going hard after of God is that this room will be filled with the power of God. The goal of those moments is not that people will be impressed with us — either our piety or our friendliness — but that they will fall on their face and say, “God is in this place.” And that will only happen people are taken up with God.

If you want your friendship to go deep with someone, I invite you to make an experiment. As you enter the sanctuary talking, and the prelude begins, try saying this: “Let’s finish this discussion after the service. I think John needs our prayers. Let’s do battle for him.” My wager is; that camaraderie in the warfare of prayer will take your friendship deeper than another five minutes of conversation.

5. If you have to come late –and we all do from time to time — minister to those who have to sit in the commons and minister to those worshipping in the sanctuary with a spirit of worship and prayer.

6. Finally, before every act of worship, whether a hymn or a reading or a prayer or an anthem or a moment of silence or a sermon, say to Lord, “Lord, I come. I come to loved worship, praise and to sing to you. I come to pray to you. I come to listen to your word. I come to enjoy your presence.” Don’t drift through the service as though the action is on the platform. Become the main player Listens and  also do pray for the others during the services, pray that they will listen, repent as well.

The greatest action in worship is when a heart that is far from the Lord draws near to the Lord, and focuses on him and desires him and trusts him and enjoys him. “

>>By the way I dont know why should you put up topics of endtimes cause it brings fear and intimidation to people..

I agree .. the subject made Daniel even sick.. (Dan 8:27 KJV)  And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.

plus look at this the Book of Daniel where Danile himself was told to seal up the words of the prohecy.. (Dan 12:4 KJV)  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end:

for we are all to look forward to the return of Jesus Christ. not the return of the anti christ

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/preparation-for-god-and-his-worship/

Portions taken from ref. http://www.indiagospel.net/word_alive/prayer.html ref. http://web1.duc.auburn.edu/student_info/ccc/music/45.html  ref. http://www.calvarychapel.com/manitowoc/Library/Guglielmo-Joe/Studies/SM/19PSA/SM1102.HTM   ref. http://www.latter-rain.org/his_manifest_presence.htm   

http://pbulow.tripod.com/wait.html 

How to Pray for healing

How to Release God’s Healing Power ON OTHERS  Through your Prayer

YOU TOO CAN BEGIN TO SEE JESUS HEAL THE SICK THROUGH YOUR PRAYERS..
 
(2 Chr 6:19 KJV)  Have respect therefore to the prayer of thy servant, and to his supplication, O LORD my God, to hearken unto the cry and the prayer which thy servant prayeth before thee:  (Psa 102:17 KJV)  He will regard the prayer of the destitute, and not despise their prayer
 
(Mat 10:1 KJV)  And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
 
(Mat 10:8 KJV)  Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
 

Some of the  distorted preachers, even Pentecostals do too often do teach that any  Christian should not be sick at all, and that we can always immediately claim our sickness healing by faith and God will always heal us. They seem too easily to forget that  a temporary human sickness can temporary serve God’s purposes. But also yet the Fundamentals Evangelicals too now also go overboard denying that healing tend to exist today as well.
 
 A too common Pentecostal Word Faith teaching is that it is solely, always  your own personal fault for being sick. This false teaching can be found in Hinduism as well.   They teach that it is because of your own lack of faith and/or knowledge, unconfessed sins if you are sick or poor.   This unloving, cruel and unbiblical teaching does not come from God but from Satan who distorted God’s basic truths on healing. Can you imagine the gall of anyone, even a false elder, pastor, unlovingly trying to tell a person to their face that the reason their daughter sick is because of their lack of faith?  or that God is punishing them of their own sin? Can you imagine the cruelty in telling a person bound to a wheelchair that if they had enough “faith” they would  surely  “Rise and be healed?” But what does the Bible say about it, teach.
 
Most of the problem with the clear Christian teaching discrepancies on Healing and Sickness is due firstly to the real personal ignorance of what the Bible teaches even about Healing. Most Christian people wrongfully rely mainly on some famous preacher who is pro or con to healing and Not on God and his Word firstly. Many people have their mind made up beforehand anyway and are not honestly open to the subjects and they thus tend use out of context bible verses, the preachers quotations to try to suit, substantiate their own pet views.. they need to read these verses again..
 
Now in the Old Testament King David said this about his own afflictions: “It was good for me to be afflicted so that I might learn your decrees…I know, O Lord, that your laws are righteous, and in faithfulness you have afflicted me,” Psalm 119:71, 75.  The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death,” Psalm 118:18.  “Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word,” Psalm 119:67.
 
The lying bad Preachers here too try to tell you this affliction was a sickness of David .Yet we have no mention at all in the Bible that these afflictions were any specific sickness, rather David clearly was persecuted by his son, and others.. and all as a direct result of his adulterous sin with Bathsheba  and the murder by David of her husband now as well. What the preachers too do not know the Bible well enough to share the truth? it sure seems so.
 
Let us all refer also to the case of Job and his sickness.. who said “ Naked came I out of my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD…Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity?  Curse God, and die.  But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh.  What?  Shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil (Calamity)?  In all this did not Job sin with his lips…Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him,” Job 1:21, 2:9-10, 13:15.
 
Clearly note that Job was eventually healed and lived to an old age.. this is undeniable too. (Job 42:10 KJV)  And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.
 
(Job 42:11 KJV)  Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
 
(Job 42:12 KJV)  So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
 
(Job 42:16 KJV)  After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons’ sons, even four generations.17 So Job died, being old and full of days.
 
Some people are sick due to their own fault.. but not all persons. We need spiritual discernment on how to deal with the sick..
 
(1 Cor 10:21 KJV)  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.
 
(1 Cor 11:29 KJV)  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.30  For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.31   For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
 
(James 5:14 KJV)  Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15  And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.16  Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
 
(Mat 8:7 KJV)  And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him.

 One thing I do often hear frome people is that God is dead, he also does not heal, but where do the same people go to when one of their loved one gets sick and the doctors cannot heal them? which happens too often in real life to many people too, well? they come to me, a pastor, to pray for them to be healed. Reality

Baptists, Brethren too, are known for their hatred and slander of of penteostals and faith healers too.. but this hatred did , does not come from God for sure.. some so called Pentecostals are still wolves in sheep clothing, they are still dispensationalists too, for often have switched to the Pentecostals churches for wrong reasons now too. 

Excuse me but this  typical slanderous fundamental Baptist Brethren bullying bashing approach that I have heard the last 50 years and it is unacceptable talking about the mostly emotional  Pentecostal.. in truth the Pentecostal accusers themselves are the one lacking the emotion of real love firstly.    

 

>>and it is a lie  that there has never been a single proven miracle healing or fulfilled prophecy in a Pentecostal church,
 
that is real is rubbish.. My own daughter was healed, and the doctors in my church, and at the Montreal children Hospital admitted it, but they had added the absurd statement she healed herself miraculously.. healed herself.. it can’t be done!!
 

Vain

Many persons go to church expecting personally to be helped by the pastor and they do next walk away disappointed. Their first normal mistake was having any personal expectations of any help from the Pastors, even though this may be an honest expectation, for our help is in the Lord and all our expectations should come only of Him. Try to go to church expecting only to see Jesus Christ, to get any desired help from Jesus only, and not any man,or women, and expect nothing else, have no expectation of any good from the pastors, elders and you certainly will next not be disappointed.

(1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

(2 Cor 10:1 KJV) Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ,

(Gal 5:23 KJV) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

(Gal 6:1 KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

(Eph 4:2 KJV) With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

(Col 3:12 KJV) Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

(1 Tim 6:11 KJV) But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

(2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

(Titus 3:2 KJV) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

(James 1:21 KJV) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

(James 3:13 KJV) Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

(1 Pet 3:15 KJV) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

When I encounter crooked evangelical pastors and I have many times. I first talk to them personally or write to them alone and I do ask them to repent.. and I have next helped to fire many of them too.. the ones who refused to repent.

Here is the irony still too many preachers on the subject of future prophecies like many other Bible issues, the persons do too often, now also on all sides, do take isolated verses out of context and accuse the others of even doing so now as well.. they really are not doing a thorough study of the Bible  themselves even.. 
 
Someone how the actual, whole truth here likely lies in between the many personally conflicting views, presentations made by many preachers too, and it  is not generally as simple as many make it out to be, desire it to be, and it does requires a more detailed personal study, review of the whole Bible, Old and New Testament now as well.       
 
(Psa 119:116 KJV)  Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope
 
[Prov 25:2.8] It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. 
I was complaining to God that there are so many conflicting views on the Rebuilding of the nation of Israel, the Rapture, etc, too, and how it was really hard to know the truth when God spoke to me and said..  
 
(2 Tim 2:15 KJV)  Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16  But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17  And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18  Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19  Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20  But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21  If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work. 22  Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23  But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26  And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. 3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. 10  But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11  Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17  That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 4:1  I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 
 
We all do still have our personal responsibility now to study the Bible more fully even if more serious work is required.. to even be able to tell the truth to others. 
 
I can sympathize with many persons who are upset, frustrated with the much too many bad preachers theses days too.  I still do also too often see supposed great men of God wrongfully quoting the other persons, ( or stealing other people’s words and claiming them as God’s) but rather  firstly not quoting the Bible directly, for they also do seem still not to like to quote the word of God, for they seem to have their own false agendas, views they want wrongfully exalted, presented. Well we have to first and only look at the “sure word of prophecy”.
 
 (James 1:5 KJV)  If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

  

 

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    Vain

    (James 1:5 KJV)  If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. 

    I was complaining to God that there are so many conflicting views on the Rebuilding of the nation of Israel, the Rapture, etc, too, and how it was really hard to know the truth when God spoke to me and said..  
     
    (2 Tim 2:15 KJV)  Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16  But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17  And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18  Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19  Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20  But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21  If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work. 22  Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23  But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26  And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. 3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. 10  But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11  Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17  That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 4:1  I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 
     
    We all do still have our personal responsibility now to study the Bible more fully even if more serious work is required.. to even be able to tell the truth to others. 
     
    I can sympathize with many persons who are upset, frustrated with the much too many bad preachers theses days too.  I still do also too often see supposed great men of God wrongfully quoting the other persons, ( or stealing other people’s words and claiming them as God’s) but rather  firstly not quoting the Bible directly, for they also do seem still not to like to quote the word of God, for they seem to have their own false agendas, views they want wrongfully exalted, presented. Well we have to first and only look at the “sure word of prophecy”.
     

     

     

    Here is the irony still too many preachers on the subject of future prophecies like many other Bible issues, the persons do too often, now also on all sides, do take isolated verses out of context and accuse the others of even doing so now as well.. they really are not doing a thorough study of the Bible  themselves even.. 
     
    Someone how the actual, whole truth here likely lies in between the many personally conflicting views, presentations made by many preachers too, and it  is not generally as simple as many make it out to be, desire it to be, and it does requires a more detailed personal study, review of the whole Bible, Old and New Testament now as well.        

     

    (Psa 119:116 KJV)  Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope
     
    [Prov 25:2.8] It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. 

     

      

    Many persons go to church expecting personally to be helped by the pastor and they do next walk away disappointed. Their first normal mistake was having any personal expectations of any help from the Pastors, even though this may be an honest expectation, for our help is in the Lord and all our expectations should come only of Him. Try to go to church expecting only to see Jesus Christ, to get any desired help from Jesus only, and not any man,or women, and expect nothing else, have no expectation of any good from the pastors, elders and you certainly will next not be disappointed.

    (1 Cor 4:21 KJV) What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

    (2 Cor 10:1 KJV) Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ,

    (Gal 5:23 KJV) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

    (Gal 6:1 KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

    (Eph 4:2 KJV) With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

    (Col 3:12 KJV) Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

    (1 Tim 6:11 KJV) But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

    (2 Tim 2:25 KJV) In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

    (Titus 3:2 KJV) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

    (James 1:21 KJV) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

    (James 3:13 KJV) Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

    (1 Pet 3:15 KJV) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

    When I encounter crooked evangelical pastors and I have many times. I first talk to them personally or write to them alone and I do ask them to repent.. and I have next helped to fire many of them too.. the ones who refused to repent.

    Christian and Missionary Alliance Denomination

    Christian and Missionary Alliance  Prime minister of Canada  Stephen Harper’s church too..

    “Saturday, May 03, 2008 Christian and Missionary Alliance Denomination Years ago I was a member of a Christian and Missionary Alliance Church in Santa Monica. The denomination closed us down, too. I guess they took whatever was in the bank account, even though the pastor was left without a job. They did not show any sympathy for our little church closing…so I can understand a little about how this Vietnamese church felt.”

      CHRISTIAN & MISSIONARY ALLIANCE LEADERS DEFRAUD VIETNAMESE BOAT PEOPLE OF $90,000 BANK ACCOUNTPRESS RELEASE DATE: MAY 1, 2008 LOCATION: LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A. CONTACT: DANIEL NGUYEN (Vietnamese Alliance Member), EMAIL: mailto:pouchgman@juno.com

    “In another act of piracy, the Christian & Missionary Alliance collects more booty from Vietnamese Boat People Christians than it would have by ransacking them on the high seas. This hostile takeover is on the heels of a major lawsuit filed by a group of former members of the Chinese Alliance Church of Colorado Springs against the Christian and Missionary Alliance denomination. On March 24, 2008, the C&MA, once again in a gesture of unbridled greed, seized the $90,000 bank account of another C&MA church, the Vietnamese Alliance Church of Long Beach, California. Reminiscent of what the C&MA did to the Chinese Alliance church, members of the Vietnamese church discovered that the locks on their church were changed, too, effectively rendering members as trespassers on their own property. And in like manner to the Chinese Alliance Church, C&MA leaders declared the Vietnamese church meetings invalid, trashed and held in complete contempt the local church’s constitution and bylaws, abused their spiritual authority, vilified the victims, defamed the messengers, and engaged in extolling and covering up the extortioner’s deeds. “

    I had attended this church in Canada for over 8 years, and not by a long shot can they be even considered a Christian Church.. thieves, liars, slanderers, home breakers yes.   http://thenoncomformer.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!1AA26630DCCDE52D!571.entry . 
        

    Christian Missionary Alliance Fraud By James Sundquist

    Posted on  07 May 2008 17:03:50 +0000 8, 2006 by Darren Crane The absence of response of most of the C&MA pastors to the SOS cries of the Chinese Christians’ plight was deafening. Most C&MA pastors retaliated in response to my report, showing virtually no compassion for the plight of the Chinese Christians who lost their property, Bibles, and assets to the C&MA leaders. It will be interesting to see how they will respond now that the C&MA leaders did it again by picking off and poaching another Asian American church without even catching their breath, or ever repenting for what they did to the Chinese Alliance church (one response has already come in from Senior Pastor Tom Lance of The Grove Community Church, retaliating and censoring his own staff from hearing the truth, just like Daniel Wetzel did— see full report available upon request). It is the intent of many members of the Vietnamese Alliance church to alert and warn all C&MA churches, the church at large, and the Asian community throughout the world, that this could happen to them too! Now that it has happened twice, maybe they will be believed and even more will run stories on this second hijacking.
    Swindlers, slanderers, traitors, and plunderers can’t enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but they can become and remain District Superintendents in the Christian and Missionary Alliance, and host them May 5-7, 2008 [http://www.cmaspd.org/]. In refusing to repent, showing no remorse or shame, refusing correction, and refusing restitution after plundering the Chinese Alliance Church, then doing it again to the Vietnamese Alliance Church, C&MA Vice President John Soper and his C&MA collaborators are without excuse and are spiritually twice dead. They are “Bad Samaritans from Hell” vs. Good Samaritans who take care of victims instead of creating them. The Apostle Peter said that “true religion is ministry to orphans and widows.” The C&MA is not ministering to orphans and widows when C&MA churches all stand to lose their bank accounts, church property and Bibles to the C&MA leadership. No wonder that the Prophet Isaiah warned the people: woe to false shepherds, derelict guardians, imaginary public protectors like these C&MA leaders ‘who call evil good’. The C&MA leaders did NOT walk in same steps as the Apostle Paul, to the Chinese and Vietnamese Christians, for Paul told the Corinthians “What I want is NOT your possessions”…or “exploit you through any of the men I sent you” but “spend for you EVERYTHING I have.” [2 Cor. 12:14-18] Take heed of Jesus Christ’s warning of turning his house of prayer into a den of thieves.” http://obadiah1317.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/christian-missionary-alliance-fraud-by-james-sundquist/
        
    These are the rich folks who steal from the poor folks and abuse them
       
    And boy I was surprised next  with the Unchristian response on the web by Alliance supporters, who went into spin doctoring mode, even the for them it is bashings of others  to try to cover any of this up too.. easier to repent and rightfully too.
     Most people also  are not aware that the Canadian Pentecostal assemblies of Canada churches PAOC are a break away from the Christian Missionary Alliance church firstly and they have a very similar church management structure, a corporation with a corporate president even that does not disclose all the expenditures to the all of the donators now too. .. not your expected  congregationally managed, owned local church ..

    Yes the same Christian Missionary alliance church, rather Corporation.. the bad so called church that our Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper goes too. The Christian and Missionary Alliance (COMA) is an Evangelical Protestant denomination within Christianity. Founded by Rev. Albert Benjamin Simpson in 1887, the Christian & Missionary Alliance did not start off as a denomination, but rather began as two distinct Para church organizations: The Christian Alliance which focused on the pursuit and promotion of the Higher Christian life and The Evangelical Missionary Alliance, which focused on mobilizing “consecrated” Christians in the work of foreign missionary efforts. These two groups amalgamated in 1897 to form The Christian and Missionary Alliance. It was only much later during the mid twentieth century that an official denomination was formed. See my posts on the CMA.. It is owned and controlled by a Corporation. The Pentecostal Assembly of Canada, PAOC broke away from this corporation and formed it’s own corporation, so called church..

    Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable  common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..

     The ends seem to justify the means for some. In the secular world it is common to contact your employer to try to put pressure on you when you disagree with a corporation, but in the religious world it is an unacceptable  common ploy for bad undeniably pastors with no fear and accountably as well  too often to try meddle into your family affairs, to try to seduce,  counsel your own wife behind your back and knowledge, trying to divide and conquer as many persons have told  me, they had the same bad experiences too, me included.

    “Now the relevance of all this, as brought to the attention of Justice Jarvis the friction between Walter and Sandra about Metro church, is pastor’s Jim Paul and family unauthorized intrusion into Walter’s marriage and life which resulted in a police call to 911 on October 30, 2005 as Jim Paul’s brother in law and sister refused to get out of my home when they barged in uninvited! In addition when Rick Meyers complained in an email to Pastor John Arnott that Jim Paul was not a marriage counselor and had no business or right to counsel only Sandra without Walter’s permission or knowledge, Pastor Steve Long took it upon himself to slander Walter Kambulow to Rick Meyers and refused to retract or substantiate his words in spite of many emails by Mr Kambulow to TACF on the subject ( See Appendix B REJECTION OF NOTICE OF MOTION (Milton) December 27, 2007 Court File No: 6447/07 ) and chose instead to sue Walter Kambulow to try and silence him! ” http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf and Walter or his wife Sandy  is no saint too.. nor his supporters too, or oppositions, none of these people here are really saints now as well..

    “The ignorance of the Bible and the works of the Holy Spirit have placed many people, churches, radio and television ministries, and itinerant ministries in jeopardy for their very existence because they are so desperate for success, numbers and money that they are ready to chase after any experience or anybody whom they think will attract people to them. There are many people today who do not know their Scriptures and the penalties that come from straying away from them. They are like the Sadducees of whom Jesus said, “You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29; Mk. 12: 24).”  http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf

    Their ignorance of the Bible is alone not the issue, most Christians, church leaders  also wrongfully personally do pick and choose what parts of the Bible they will practice, and which one they will not. All professing Christians daily need to practice what they know, even the ten commandments.

    I went to a Church for the first time in the Calgary NW Suburb AND I KNEW AFTER ONE SERVICE THE EVANGELICAL PASTOR WAS A CROOK, A LIAR.. My friends insisted I return to the church, but in the process they had told me that the pastor was lying about me, slandering me to others, even to them as well.. This has often happened to me by pastors of other churches, in Calgary, Montréal too, seems the much too many bad pastors like to slander and Gossip. At the next church service I had shared openly with the congregation at the end of the service that their pastor had been accused of lying, slandering me, and even stealing, , misappropriation of funds , lying also by others. The majority of Congregation members disagreed. Ten years later there was a knock on the door of my home and one of the church members told me face to face the same Calgary NW pastor was fired for lying, stealing funds. I always had wondered why it took them so long to see the truth about him?

    It was very interesting fact that the clearly bad pastors of TACF Toronto Airport Church fellowship had resorted to a commercial lawsuit over rather resorting to pray in dealing with one of their critics,
     
    Where in the world did so many of evangelical pastors wrongfully get the idea they personally now  are beyond any rightful criticism? rebuke, corrections? Certainly not from God.

    It is very ironic that I have often said that if you really want to know how spiritual someone is, do first see how they do in regard their emphasis on the  importance of money, for their related greed for it will show their true spiritual values, or rather the lack of it. It is thus  interesting that the CMA disputes causing News headlines was over money. Many persons already are too often rightfully complaining that too many evangelical pastors even are too often still  greedy for filthy lucre, and they really do not care about the spiritual welfare, physical needs of others.
     
     Sadly for many years I have had nothing bad bad experience with 4 of the Canadian Christian Missionary Alliance churches, and they had lied to me, abused me.. undeniable facts I have detailed to all the Canadian members of Parliament, and to the major Canadian News editors, and posted it on the net.. this was a church composed mostly of liars, thieves, imposters and pretenders in my witness… it is not a real Christian Church for sure.
      
    It is absurd for anyone to now even to try to hoodwink me as to how supposedly spiritually the Christian Missionary Alliance Church is as well, rather in truth the CMA Corporation now is supposedly. It would not work for I already do know the much too many negative truths about the CMA  firsthand and for many decades now too. No amount of whitewash can cover up their real dirty plays still too as I have seen firsthand.
     

    Christians doing still dirty works and hiding behind titles, corporate names still is also unacceptable… does not impress me at all.    My door bell rang and a person was there asking for donations to World Vision Canada, asking me if I had heard of it? Have I personally heard of it?  a vice president of this corporation that I had personally known, been to his home too had already lied about me, slandered me, spread other people’s lies about me.. He was an ex Christian & Missionary Alliance Missionary NOW AS WELL. Like I said many times before God still  expects all professing Christians to live a godly  life, not just pretend they do… God does not overlook human right abuses even by so called Christians now too.. for God is not impressed by what Church they go to, where they work, and what fancy title they may have now as well.

    http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/christian-and-missionary-alliance-denomination/  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/christian-missionary-alliance/  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/77/