BCE, Bell Canada the plunging phone company

More bad news for BCE.. The past False, misleading advertisements, bad management, Download cappings, have all lead to this. Shares of BCE tumbled $13.10, or 34 per cent, to $25.25, trimming 102 points from the S&P/TSX composite index, after accounting firm KPMG said it couldn’t certify the solvency of the company before the Dec. 11 deadline for the deal to close. A group of private equity investors led by the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan agreed to pay $42.50 a share for BCE in the biggest leveraged buyout of all time. But the subsequent stock market crash, four quarters of declining profits, and a ballooning pension fund deficit have pushed the value of the company so low, it might not be able to service the mountain of debt that would replace shareholder equity after the buyout. http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=2d87f9bc-b646-4762-947d-514ef7fc32d0   http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081128.RVOX28/TPStory/Business

BCE says Teachers’ buyout ‘unlikely to proceed’ if solvency opinion not improved Wed Nov 26, 5:48 PM MONTREAL – Bell Canada’s roller coaster ride to privatization may finally crash under the weight of its prospective massive debt after an accounting firm raised serious doubt that the world’s largest leveraged corporate buyout could succeed. I am always amazed how they had wrongfully thought they could continue to abuse their own customers and next get away with it still too.. they had wrongfully failed to use profits to upgrade their old, obsolete phone lines, equipment too.. as a result lost many customers to the cable ISP too. They now really do not deserve any Business bail out by the taxpayers or the government.

Bell has always had it’s spin doctors spin, lying..  “But still “It’s getting hard to figure out the upside on the BCE story   It’s very difficult to say what’s priced into the stock, but make sure you know the risks before you pile into BCE. There may be some hidden ones. And there might be some positive surprises too.  Before the announcement of this deal, the shares traded between $26 and $28. The stock is trading at about $25 now.  The cable companies are doing better…  Then there’s the competitive landscape. It’s ferocious out there, with well-funded cable, VoIP and new wireless entrants moving in with their elbows high.  There are three sources of potentially good news. The first is that BCE upgrades its land line network and makes inroads into television. That’s hard to bank on and, even if you do, it’s tough to figure out the upside. The second is the network-sharing agreement with Telus, which should yield strong returns. And finally, there’s “Belus.” Most of us find it hard to believe that the Competition Bureau would let a merger with Telus happen, or that it would let the merged entity cherry pick its divestitures…   If none of these scenarios moves you, though, you’re probably better investing in the cable companies. As illustrated in this space not long ago, they are walloping the telcos because they generally have better technology. Where broadband goes, in the words of research firm Sandford Bernstein, so voice and video follow. In Canada, Rogers has mobile and Shaw is poised to move in. They’re more expensive, true, but in the long term, they seem to have more promise.”

A recent report by KPMG, acting as valuation firm, found that the amount of debt involved in the privatization of BCE (BCE), the parent of Bell Canada, would essentially render the company insolvent. As a result, the parties have called off the deal.
      

Dec 11, 2008 BCE’s shares have fallen by almost half since Teachers’ made its C$42.75-a-share bid. BCE dropped 59 cents, or 2.6 percent, to C$22.43 at 12:50 p.m. in Toronto.The stock fell 34 percent on Nov. 26 on concern that KPMG was unlikely to bless the deal because of the C$34 billion in bonds and loans needed to finance the purchase. The company hired PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP in an unsuccessful effort to persuade KPMG to change its opinion.  .  BCE lost 72,000 home-phone lines last quarter as customers switched to wireless lines or to cable companies such as Rogers. BCE’s wireless unit, which makes up a quarter of sales, grew at less than half the rate of Rogers’s mobile unit. BCE must also realistically decide whether to invest in the much need fiber-optic lines for its home customers and whether it should provide Internet- based TV service to compete with the cable firms too http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=ayi6TCn22gaQ&refer=canada

BCE takes low road as deal fails For all BCE’s protests, the world’s largest leverage buyout just failed because lawyers for the telecom company inserted a requirement in the deal that stated BCE needed to get a favourable solvency opinion. When KPMG, a reputable accounting firm, weighed in with a final opinion that  BCE didn’t meet solvency standards, the deal died. OnceBCE agreed to a buyout, they muffed the job of closing the deal.
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Clearly you cannot trust too often crooked Bell or the CRTC . Why is Bell allowed to control stuff that isn’t theirs?  ” However I do have a problem with wholesalers, customers not being able to use the full speed of a network. After all, they pay for the full speed when getting it from the phone companies. They should get the full speed.  ”  Bell’s known poor acts, actions deserve all kinds of vilification.  What a completely asinine company Bell is. I will never, ever deal with them again. Worst company I’ve ever encountered, what stupid business practices. ” Bell’s actions too often are still motivated by a desire to undermine competition  and increase their customer base seems too often as well to lose more customers.. “Bell and Rogers caused a lot of the problem themselves, with selling so called “unlimited” packages, only to find new applications use more bandwidth than they have available ot had deployed. “
“It is not just about the price too,   Bell can be real jerks to its customers. I used to be one until I got sick of their lack of customer service, etc., and even having 2 provides Bell and Rogers/local cable provider essentially in Ontario will NOT decrease prices. Look at the current cell-phone market as an indirect example of how low competition keeps prices high. ” ” and are they Bell and the others going to put unadvertised cap on how much we could download because basically the can to meet their advertised speeds due to their bolster, too often inadequate support structures, equipment too..” Bottom line is that when it comes to telecommunications and especially high speed internet, no one can be trusted, for  the fact is that ISP   – Cable, Telco etc – on their own will not invest in faster networks and bigger coverage areas because of the costs, and the main Corporate desire not to offer a service but a false desire  to make maximum profits with a minimum of capital investment. Services will evolve but at a slower pace until competitors are forced to invest in their own infrastrucuture.

Basically motivated by greed, increasing the profits. Bait and switch,  Misleading advertising, Unfair and Restrictive business trade practices seem to be a common thing in the Internet Service Providers  industry too, especially since generally the ISP are unregulated both by the Courts and the governments. It is a sad reality that even what is advertised is also next what the customer next consistently gets.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission on Thursday issued a decision ordering Canada’s big phone companies, including Bell, Telus Corp., MTS Allstream Inc., SaskTel and Bell Aliant, to offer the same internet speeds to smaller wholesale customers as they themselves sell on a retail basis.” Service speed is an important competitive attribute, with rates differing significantly by speed and speed often being a major differentiation point from a marketing standpoint,” the CRTC ruled.

Under existing CRTC regulations, the big phone companies are required to rent out their networks to smaller service providers, who then sell internet access to their own customers. The rules boost the number of competitors selling internet access to the public, and thus keep prices down and service levels up. The regulations, however, have only applied to older infrastructure based in phone companies’ centralized office buildings.

Recently, phone companies have been pushing their networks out of those buildings by putting new equipment into streetside cabinets in an effort to boost their customers’ internet speeds. Smaller internet service providers haven’t had regulated access to those cabinets, however, which means they have been limited to selling slower speeds than those offered by the big phone companies.

In Quebec, for example, Bell has been selling internet connections with download speeds around 16 megabits per second while small ISPs have topped out at less than half that. The phone companies will only be required to offer faster speeds to wholesale ISPs when they sell them on a retail basis in a given area. Smaller ISPs will therefore have to request the faster connections from the phone companies. Bell, Telus and the others have 45 days to file with the CRTC the proposed rates they intend to charge the small ISPs for faster services. The rates will have to represent the actual cost of the service, plus “a reasonable mark-up,” the regulator said.

..the CRTC launched a larger inquiry into how much control large network owners such as Bell, Telus, Rogers Communications Inc. and Shaw Communications Inc., should have over the internet connections they sell to customers.” http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/12/12/tech-crtc.html
 
 “The CRTC has had a “cosy” relationship with Bell for as long as I can remember. It is obvious it continues. Short of replacing all the Commissioners with officials elected by net users this will never change. Time for a “revolution” IMO.” ” I really wonder who we have in charge of the CRTC. I would prefer a 13 year old nerd that has the slightest clue about the new hype of the Internet, ”
 
” Net neutrality is one of the most significant “sleeper” issues that will confront the people of Canada over the next decade. Just as we have demanded regulation for our road traffic and public utilities, we will demand fair access to our data services and even to each other.  “
 
“Indeed, it is important not to lose sight of how much has changed in the past year. In the fall of 2007, net neutrality was viewed as a fringe issue in Canada without much political traction. In the span of 12 months, there has been a major CRTC case, the Angus bill, a rally on Parliament Hill, a more vocal business community supporting net neutrality and a gradual shift of this issue into the political mainstream. ”  http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/542156  http://www.neutrality.ca/
  
  
 Telecom dinosaurs are like the Big Three auto makers… act now to avoid more future tax funded bailouts.
 
 
Do continue here  below  to often read about bad Bell.. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/tag/bell/
 

 

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Likewise

 
(Rom 8:26 KJV)  Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groaning which cannot be uttered.
(Rom 8:27 KJV)  And he that searched the hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
(Rom 8:28 KJV)  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
(Rom 8:29 KJV)  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
(Rom 8:30 KJV)  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
(Rom 8:31 KJV)  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
(Rom 8:32 KJV)  He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
(Rom 8:33 KJV)  Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifies
(Rom 8:34 KJV)  Who is he that condemns us personally? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
(Rom 8:35 KJV)  Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
(Rom 8:36 KJV)  As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
(Rom 8:37 KJV)  Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
(Rom 8:38 KJV)  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
(Rom 8:39 KJV)  Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
(Rom 9:1 KJV)  I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

 
 
(Luke 8:17 KJV)  For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
 
(John 1:31 KJV)  And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
 
(John 3:21 KJV)  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
 
(John 14:21 KJV)  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
 
(John 14:22 KJV)  Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
 
(Rom 1:19 KJV)  Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them.
 
(Rom 10:20 KJV)  But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
 
(Rom 16:26 KJV)  But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
 
(1 Cor 3:13 KJV)  Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
 
(1 Cor 11:19 KJV)  For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
 
(1 Cor 14:25 KJV)  And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
 
(2 Cor 2:14 KJV)  Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.
 
(2 Cor 4:10 KJV)  Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
 
(2 Cor 4:11 KJV)  For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
 
(2 Cor 5:11 KJV)  Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
 
(Col 1:26 KJV)  Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
 
(1 Tim 3:16 KJV)  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
 
(2 Tim 1:10 KJV)  But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
 
(2 Tim 3:9 KJV)  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
 
(Heb 4:13 KJV)  Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
 
(1 Pet 1:20 KJV)  Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
 
(1 John 2:19 KJV)  They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
 
(1 John 3:10 KJV)  In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
 
(Rev 15:4 KJV)  Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
  
 
(Prov 14:14 KJV)  The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways: 
 
 

 
It is undeniable that even so called professing Christians have tried falsely to separate Jesus Christ, the Holy Sprit from God.. for it also too often now seems they do rather  want to define these individual persons based on their own actual experience, relationship or rather lack of thereof.. some people  really still do not know Jesus Christ personally and also/or do not have His Holy Sprit, anointing in reality.. a term often defined as sanctification, second blessing, the life of the Spirit,  even one that can be still obtained if one meets the Biblical conditions, criteria, and also still not rather tries to excuse , defend oneself for not having it. Many people now they do not have these relationships because firstly they have not died to self, or next have not made Jesus Christ as the sole Lord of their life,  and/or they are still trying to do their own thing in their own strength, are following after men rather and not God, are walking in unrepentant sin still,  and /or they are really not  continually living or walking in faith, in the Word of God, the Bible.

as many as are led by the Spirit of God

 

 ”Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19) and  “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all” (2 Corinthians 13:14).
 
The Trinity is a basic, essential , Christian doctrine, stating that God is one being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of three persons:   the Father, the Son (incarnate as Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. i.e.. the one God exists in three Persons and one substance, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, The belief in the Trinity, is a mark of Oriental and Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism and all the mainstream protestant Churches.
 
The non Christian churches that do not support the trinity, include the Unitarian Church and the Mormons- the Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witnesses and it is very understandable as to why they are not led by the Holy Spirit God, they are lead by a undeniable false spirit, an anti Christ spirit.
 
(Mat 21:42 KJV)  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
 
(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

(Col 1:18 KJV)  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

(Col 2:10 KJV)  And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

(1 Pet 2:7 KJV)  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

Christians Gathered often, regularly in temples, from house to house too after the death and ressurrection of Jesus Christ

In more detail next Who founded your church Jesus Christ or?

Who founded the catholic church? Boniface (606)
The orthodox church split from the Catholic church in 1054.
Who founded the Lutheran  Church?  Martin Luther  (1512)
Who founded the Anglican Church of England ? King Henry VIII   in 1534
John Knox of Scotland founded the Presbyterian Church, in 1580.
The Congregational Church was founded by Robert Brown in Holland, in 1582.
John Smith in Amsterdam founded the Baptist Church, in 1606.
Michelis Jones in New York founded the Dutch Reformed Church, in 1628.
The Methodist Church, was founded by John & Charles Wesley in England in 1774.
The Unitarian Church was founded by Theophilus Lindley in London in 1774.
Who founded the Plymouth Brethren Church?  John Darby 1847,
Who founded the church of god denomination? D.S. Warner (1880)

Who founded the Methodist church? John Wesley (1729)
Who found the Mennonite Church?
Holdeman Mennonites were founded from a schism in 1859,
Who founded the Jehovah witness church? Charles T. Russell (1874)
Who founded the Mormon church? Joseph smith (1830)
The Protestant Episcopal Church is an offshoot of the Church of England, and was founded by Samuel Seabury in the American Colonies in the 18th Century.

Church of Christ, Thomas & Alexander Campbell, Kentucky. 1827,

Christian Science Church, Mary Baker Eddy, Los Angeles 1879,

The Salvation Army was founded by William Booth in London in 1888.
The Church of the Nazarene was founded in 1895 in Los Angeles, California, by Phineas F. Bresee, a Methodist Episcopal Church minister, and Dr. Joseph
Pomeroy Widney, a Methodist layman
New Covenant Holiness Church was founded between the years of 1886 – 1901.
The Christian & Missionary Alliance Church was founded by  A B Simpson 1887
The Assemblies of God is an evangelical, Pentecostal organization that was founded in Arkansas in 1914. It has grown to be the largest Pentecostal
denominatiom. the Assemblies of God emerged from the mass of Pentecostal sects that formed during the nineteenth century and trace their formation to
the Azusa Street revival of 1906.
Fire Baptized Holiness Church of God of the Americas is a predominantly African-American Pentecostal holiness denomination of Christians. was founded by Benjamin Hardin Irwin and William Edward Fuller, Sr. (1875-1958).

Hey if you have a pet doctrine, or want to preach your own Gospel, merely you start your own church

Mt 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mt 7:21   Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
1Jo 4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Mt 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:’

I do not consider any of these above Churches or rather Crutches  as “correct”   The true Church of Christ of which I am originated about 33 A.D. or actually it was always in the mind of God from the beginning.

 (1 Cor 6:9 KJV)  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

(2 Cor 6:17 KJV)  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

The Traditions Of Men

But understand this: there will be terrifying times in the last days. People will be self-centered and lovers of money, proud, haughty, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, irreligious, callous, implacable, slanderous, licentious, brutal, hating what is good, traitors, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, as they make a pretense of religion but deny its power. Reject them.  2 Timothy 3:1-5
  
Which man started your “tradition”?

Who do you trust? God or man?

and the issue is not just how to be filled wiht the Holy Spirit but how to stay filled with the holy spirit
 
Get baptized in the Holy Spirit as the Lord has commanded. Jesus was as human as we are, and it was only after he was water-baptized by John the Baptist, and the Holy Spirit entered him from Heaven, and God said “This is my son in whom I am well pleased” that Jesus’ ministry began. Before that, He wasn’t yet enabled to do great miracles.  So if Jesus couldn’t do it before He was baptized in the Spirit, how can you or I? No amount of waving a crucifix or using a Bible to block devils can stop the work of Satan. Only being FILLED with the Spirit, when the demons can see the Spirit of God living in you and they panic, and only by casting them out in the mighty name of Jesus, can you go forth and do what Jesus has commanded. http://firefromheaven.blogspot.com/2005/07/church-praying-in-tongues.html
 
 
“Come Holy Spirit come, bless every person that reads this to be filled with Your loving presence, that they may be refreshed and renewed in Your presence, because in Your presence is FULLNESS OF JOY!!!!!! YIPPEE!!!! (Ps 16:11) Be filled with the love and power of the Holy Spirit daily (Eph 5:17-19) yes, be like a child again, remain vulnerable, stay humble and have faith like a child and we shall see miracles 🙂 ” http://jaesonma.com/2007/03/become-like-child-again-d.html 
 
Do see also
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Superiority Complex, Superior

(Psa 49:1 KJV)  Hear this, all ye people; give ear, all ye inhabitants of the world: 2   Both low and high, rich and poor, together.
It too has been my sad personal experiences that too many people find false reasons, even  supposedly Christian persons in supposedly Christian  churches, to feel superior over the  others.. and it generally seems to be  like this
-those people who never were or are not sick, are more spiritual than those who are or have been sick
-the people married are superior over those divorced, or single
-the people how have children are superior over those who do not
-the people who have a home, car are superior now as well over those who do not have them
-the people who are members of a church are superior to those who are not

-the people who are rich are superior over those who are not
-the people who are educated are superior over those who are not    

 

etc

 

 

 

(Mat 18:1 KJV)  At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
(Mat 18:4 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
(1 Sam 2:7 KJV)  The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
(Job 34:19 KJV)  How much less to him that accepteth not the persons of princes, nor regardeth the rich more than the poor? for they all are the work of his hands.
(Prov 10:15 KJV)  The rich man’s wealth is his strong city: the destruction of the poor is their poverty.
(Prov 13:7 KJV)  There is that maketh himself rich, yet hath nothing: there is that maketh himself poor, yet hath great riches.
(Prov 14:20 KJV)  The poor is hated even of his own neighbour: but the rich hath many friends.
(Prov 18:23 KJV)  The poor useth entreaties; but the rich answereth roughly.
(Prov 22:16 KJV)  He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.
(Prov 28:6 KJV)  Better is the poor that walketh in his uprightness, than he that is perverse in his ways, though he be rich.
(Prov 28:11 KJV)  The rich man is wise in his own conceit; but the poor that hath understanding searcheth him out.
(2 Cor 8:9 KJV)  For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
(James 2:5 KJV)  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
(James 2:6 KJV)  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
(Rev 3:17 KJV)  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
 
and how do you see yourself?
 
(Psa 49:20 KJV)  Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish.
7  None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
8  (For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever:)
9  That he should still live for ever, and not see corruption.
10  For he seeth that wise men die, likewise the fool and the brutish person perish, and leave their wealth to others.
11  Their inward thought is, that their houses shall continue for ever, and their dwelling places to all generations; they call their lands after their own names.
12  Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish.
13  This their way is their folly: yet their posterity approve their sayings. Selah.
14  Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling.
15  But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.
16  Be not thou afraid when one is made rich, when the glory of his house is increased;
17  For when he dieth he shall carry nothing away: his glory shall not descend after him.
18  Though while he lived he blessed his soul: and men will praise thee, when thou doest well to thyself.
19  He shall go to the generation of his fathers; they shall never see light.
20  Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish.

Jesus is always still the more excellent way

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Mankind seems always  to have this continual, undeniable approach of ending up always in the negative cess pool of life, of course with Satan’s continual help of course.
 
(Psa 68:34 KJV)  Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency is over Israel, and his strength is in the clouds.
 
(Isa 35:2 KJV)  It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.
 
(Isa 60:15 KJV)  Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
 
(2 Cor 4:7 KJV)  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
 
(Phil 3:8 KJV)  Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
 

 Jesus is always still the more excellent way
 
(Heb 2:1 KJV)  Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
2  For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward;
3  How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
4  God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
5  For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
6  But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
7  Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
8  Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
9  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10  For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
11  For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12  Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
13  And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
14  Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15  And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16  For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17  Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18  For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
3:1  Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
 

 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)

 (Heb 2:4 KJV)  God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
 
Very sadly many even supposedly Christian people tend to still define God’s present involvement, God’s gifts to us in this world per their own very limited experiences, very small minds, revealing still their own lack of spirituality, maturity and the need of further growth  in the process.
 
(1 Cor 3:1 KJV)  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2  I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4  For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5  Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6  I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7  So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8  Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9  For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.
10  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11  For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12  Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13  Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
14  If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15  If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
16  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17  If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
18  Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19  For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
21  Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22  Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23  And ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s.

In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  But still not Barrack Obama or Stephen Harper and why?

 
 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.
 

 Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick   persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..

  
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(1 Cor 5:11 KJV)  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.  12   For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

One thing is still very clear the too often pretentious news media and  the too often pretentious  politicians are not actively doing their jobs in helping people to be informed, having the proper facts to be able to make the proper decisions, take the proper actions, so do thank God for the existence of the internet, no matter how imperfect now it itself is as well.. it offers now at least some valid truths to the discerning readers.

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/in-the-beginning-god/ 

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/lord-if-you-are-willing/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 (Phil 3:13 KJV)  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 
(Phil 3:20 KJV)  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21   Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
 

(Phil 4:1 KJV)  Therefore, my brethren, dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved. 

  

 

 

  

 

 

 

Being ignorant and showing a false hatred towards the truth

WHY ARE SO MANY PERSONS  ignorant and  are showing a false hatred towards the truth?
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Eccl 7:4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning, but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth {and} sensual joy.
Eccl 7:5 It is better for a man to hear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools.
Eccl 7:6 For like the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool. This also is vanity (emptiness, falsity, and futility)!
Eccl 7:7 Surely oppression {and} extortion make a wise man foolish, and a bribe destroys the understanding {and} judgment.
Eccl 7:8 Better is the end of a thing than the beginning of it, and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.
Eccl 7:9 Do not be quick in spirit to be angry {or} vexed, for anger {and} vexation lodge in the bosom of fools.
Eccl 7:10 Do not say, Why were the old days better than these? For it is not wise {or} because of wisdom that you ask this.
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(Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?(Mat 7:4 KJV) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?(Mat 7:5 KJV) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
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 Amos 5:10 They hate him who reproves in the [city] gate [holding him as an abomination and rejecting his rebuke], and they abhor him who speaks uprightly.
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(Micah 3:5 KJV) Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him

(Jer 2:11 KJV) Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.   (Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.   (Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.   (Jer 4:22 KJV) For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.   (Jer 5:26 KJV) For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.   (Jer 5:31 KJV) The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

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(Jer 6:14 KJV) They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.   (Jer 6:27 KJV) I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way.   (Jer 7:12 KJV) But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.   (Jer 7:23 KJV) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.   (Jer 8:7 KJV) Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.

(Jer 23:22 KJV) But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

(Jer 50:6 KJV) My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.   (Jer 51:45 KJV) My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.   (Ezek 13:10 KJV) Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered mortar:

(Hosea 4:6 KJV) My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

(Amos 9:10 KJV) All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.

(Zec 8:7 KJV) Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country;

Anyone choosing even being ignorant and showing a false hatred towards the truth, others damages one self the most still..
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We, yes not one of us, we also do not have to accept any of these personal, verbal, physical abuses quietly. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s best interest still too. God himself does not accept them at all, not even quietly. We all, Christians now included, do have a right of freedom of speech, the right to be heard, legal and human rights now too, even the right of freedom of religion.
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I  too am really not interested in mere  personal false bashes, lies, slanders, even mere  opinions on any religions, persons..  and not detailed, substantiated too.  I try to stay with the truth, reputable facts, not unsubstantiated personal opinions by even gangsters.. I rightfully try to separate the meat from the bones, the facts from fiction, and so should we all..
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Everyone has an opinion, theory, too often  unproven substantiated, and too often they do listen  to the devil and his lies now too. You should know by now that everything you read, hear in the newspaper, on the net, even in the church is not  necessarily  true. You need to use your own judgments to evaluate it all still too. 

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Reality anyone can find now any internet site that will back up what they say too or what they want to believe in for the internet is also always now a cess pool of misinformation too. I do not beleive anything anyone says I  always do still check it out.. so should we all.
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Even some news reporters too often lie, distort the truth, and just cause it is said or in writing at CNN does not mean it is true as I learned firsthand too.
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My neighbor   told me that the people who have to continually make personal bashes on others are really now trying to divert   others from looking at their own visible weakness, shortcomings, failures, that now   they are so personally really conscious off,   they THUS FALSELY next use this diversionist approach which still does not change what is wrong with them personally now still too.  We too often examples of the bad acts of one too many of them too..

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So what is really wrong with then Bullies, Basher that they  have to continually bash any others? Did their  own parents reject them too? or wife or who else?

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I HAVE MADE HUNDREDS OF POST ON DIFFERENT SUBJECTS AND STILL RELIGION IS THE MAIN POST MOST PEOPLE DO READ. 80 PERCENT OF MY READERS PREFER TO READ THE RELIGIOUS POST FIRSTLY TOO.. THIS IS THE REALITY MANY BULLIES, BASHERS, LIBERALS , CANNOT SEE OR FACE .

next the l Christian topics are the   most popular read ones.

Secular posts are all in the bottom ten percent .. in reality few bother to read them.. Real truth too.

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And any man or women who separates his political life from religion has no morals..  and that is what the devil likes, the Liberals and the Conservatives, the others do not like moral references, the Bible to be pointed out, they prefer wrongfully their own lies, slanders and who knows now what garbage next as well..
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 but even the devil seems too like still to refer to the rules, the Bible, he clearly does also not read or practice.. I do not play by the devil or other’s man made rules as well as we all should know by now
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Divisive Re: Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren

Sent:  Subject: Re: Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren
Sola Scriptura; Solus Christus; Sola Gratia. Sola Fide; Soli Deo Gloria!

Over 3 decades ago I wrote to John F Walwood, to which he had also replied and I said he was a liar for the Bible did not support his dispensational false teaching, and to this date I have been fully right, Today to him and his similar supporters, the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren I do still rightfully say the same thing too. They are still liars.

>>;Most of what you wrote concerning the teachings of those you refer to as “Plymouth Brethren” is just not true.
Most? of what I wrote , all I wrote is true.

>> I will first dispel your falsehood that we are hiding from what we really are and teach by writing this letter.  I, we are not hiding anything. Below is a detailed description of what I, we teach and by grace seek to practice. Show me the “false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more.”
>>As to the scriptural idea of dispensations,  the apostle Paul believed in dispensations. “That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:” Ephesians 1:10

 here you quickly had  proved your own deceit, you took one isolated verse, and made it a  plural even

>>What does scripture teach?  Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.  Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.  Is Christ divided?  (1 Cor. 1: 10-13)

 and yet the brethren cause, practice,  and have divisions amongst themselves from the start even.. one of the first being Rev George Muellar

>> The truth of Scripture is this. All true believers are all of Christ.  We declare it strongly and clearly, WE ARE ALL OF CHRIST, THAT IS, ALL WHO ARE TRULY BORN AGAIN!  ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS ARE OF CHRIST AND SHOULD BE GATHERED IN NO OTHER NAME BUT CHRIST’S NAME.

 you are not true believers for you do not believe what the Bible, holy spirit says rather you reinterpret it to your liking,

>>So in accordance with scripture we only call ourselves by such names as are common to all true believers in Christ. Such as Christians, brethren, saints, believers and other such like names.  There is never an excuse not to obey the word of God. We can and ought to obey, even if no one else will.  We owe it to the One who redeemed us. What saith the Scriptures.  For where two or three are gathered together in my name there am I in the midst of them.  (Mat. 18:20)  True Christians only have authority to be gathered together in one name.  That name is the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and that name alone. This is authentic, primitive,  as in  original Christianity. This was the practice of the first century church.

There are Much too many typical Plymouth Dispensational Brethren and whether they are open or closed Brethren that are deceitful .. they are also those persons who do do still falsely and too often substitute next their own men ‘s teaching for the Christ’s, and while the Bible opposes divorce for Christian persons, the Plymouth Brethren undeniably even encourage divorce of any spouse Christian or not who does not heed to the full brethren doctrines, the wife does not need to listen to her husband in anything even if the husband who was to be the head of the home .

The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren undeniably as I too have witnessed do go behind the husbands back and will even encourage the wife to divorce her husband cause he is not a true Plymouth Dispensational Brethren contrary to the Bible.

(1 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

1 Cor 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1 Cor 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1 Cor 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren tend to be WASP. white, Anglo Saxon, protestants still too, and the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren say that “We teach that all who place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ are immediately placed by the Holy Spirit into one united spiritual body, the church” is a lie for too many many real Christians are immediately rejected, shut out of the brethren church , excluded for not being dispensationalist. The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren also undeniable practice personal character assassination, slander, human rights abuse when they often do openly make a claim that anyone, any Christian who is a Pentecostal is an emotional, mentally disturbed individual as I have often witnessed myself as well.. The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more too is an undeniable fact even if they lie and try falsely to say it is Authentic Christianity, or the Good News, the Gospel, that for sure it is not! Plymouth Dispensational Brethren it seems they like to hide from what they really are and teach.”While they the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren too often hide who they are by making the statement they are Christians, they certainly are not true Christians and for century have not been accepted by the major Christian churches.The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren to me rightfully are the wolves in sheep clothing, the false brethren who crept in amongst us falsely saying they are Christians.. they are a new group at it too.. since they started only in the 1800.. It would be rather generally accurate to say that they are racists, sectarian, divisional, hate mongers, anti Pentecostals, liars and slanders too.. and anyone does not heed to dispensational teach is evil, Ch Spurgeoen, Rev George Muellar, me included ehh “

There are too many false Christian brethren in the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren even falsely like to lump as one, wolves in sheep clothing, persons like Judas the apostle was false

What does scripture teach? Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? (1 Cor. 1: 10-13)

and yet the brethren themselves do often cause, practice, and have divisions amongst themselves from the start even.. one of the first being the dispensational brethren Rev George Muellar rejected many of their teachings.

So the same Jesus will say to them I never knew you (Mat 7:22 KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

>>When someone asks me who we are and how we describe ourselves, I tell them we are simply nothing more and nothing less than Christians gathered in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.  And we do so on the basis, ground and principal that there is only one body of Christ and that all true Christians are of Christ and are part of the one body.

 In reality 70 percent of people professing to be Christians are really not even born again, saved, they are still not even Christians, no they are not all Christians in a church like you lie. There are too many false brethren in this bunch of Christians you falsely like to lump as one, wolves in sheep clothing, like Judas the apostle

>>;Over the years outsiders and historians have called us by names not of our choosing, but we have not and do not lay claim to any of them.  The “No Name Church”, “PB Church”, “PBer’s”, “The Brethren Church”, “Darbyites” and such like.  The history books often refer to us as Plymouth Brethren or those who started the Plymouth Brethren movement.  This Plymouth Brethren label came to be used in the early 1800s because an assembly of Christians gathered in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in Plymouth England had a number of gifted preachers that traveled and preached throughout the country and because they were from the town of Plymouth, people would often refer to them as one of those brethren from Plymouth. Thus the label or designation Plymouth Brethren. It would be generally accurate to say that we are evangelical, dispensational, conservative and orthodox as to doctrine and practice.

 It would be rather  generally accurate for me again to say that   you mostly are still  false, liars, slanderers, sectarian,  divisional, hate mongers, anti Pentecostals, liars and slanders   too

>>We teach that the Bible is the only infallible rule of faith and practice (Matt. 5:18; 24:35; John 10:35; 16:12, 13; 17:17; 1 Cor. 2:13; 2 Tim. 3:15-17; Heb. 4:12; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21) We teach that the Bible is God’s written revelation to man, and that the 66 books of the Bible given to us by the Holy Spirit constitute the inspired Word of God (1 Cor. 2:7-14; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21). We teach that the Word of God is verbally inspired in every word (2 Tim. 3:16), absolutely inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. We teach the literal, grammatical-historical-contextual-dispensational  interpretation of Scripture. We teach that God spoke in His written Word by a process of divine and human authorship. The Holy Spirit so superintended the human authors that, through their individual personalities and different styles of writing, they composed and recorded God’s Word to man (2 Pet. 1:20, 21) without error in the whole or in the part (Matt. 5:18; 2 Tim. 3:16). We teach that, whereas there may be several applications of any given passage of Scripture, there is but one true interpretation.

ha ha ha the Brethren one of course..

>>The meaning of Scripture is to be found as one diligently applies the literal, grammatical-historical-contextual-dispensational method of interpretation under the leading and guidance of the Holy Spirit (John 7:17; 16:12-15; 1 Cor. 2:7-15; 1 John 2:20). The Scripture is its own best interpreter by comparing Scripture with Scripture.  (1 Cor. 2:13)  It is the responsibility of all believers to carefully search out the true intent and meaning of Scripture and that the Scriptures stand in judgment of men; never ought men stand in judgment of it. (Heb. 4:12,13)

 that is mere hypocrisy, for  mind you the brethren insist you read their soley their recommended commentaries.. and follow only their teachers

>>We teach that the Holy Spirit administers spiritual gifts to the church.

 but you also add to the word of God and lying say all his gifts have now ceased

>>All men are thus sinners by nature, by choice, and by divine declaration (Psa. 14:1-3; Jer. 17:9; Rom. 3:9-18, 23; 5:10-12)

  Including most of the brethren now still too

>>kept by God’s power and are thus secure in Christ forever

which is contrary to the Bible  https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/the-promises-of-eternal-life-by-jesus-christ/

>>We teach that the local assembly is autonomous and free from any central authority or control other than Christ who is the head of the Church.

the control is mostly still  by your bad elders.. and you do still falsely and too often substitute next men ‘s teaching for the Christ’s.

>>We teach that there were two kinds of gifts given to the early church: miraculous gifts of divine revelation and healing, given temporarily in the apostolic era for the purpose of confirming the authenticity of the apostles’ message ( 2 Cor. 12:12; Heb. 2:3, 4); and ministering gifts, given to equip believers for edifying one another. With the New Testament revelation now complete, Scripture becomes the sole test of the authenticity of a man’s message, and confirming gifts of a miraculous nature are no longer necessary to validate a man or his message (1 Cor. 13:8-12). Miraculous gifts can even be counterfeited by Satan so as to deceive even believers (Matt. 24:24). The only gifts in operation today are those non-revelatory equipping gifts given for edification (Rom. 12:6-8). We teach that no one possesses the sign gift of healing today but that God does hear and answer the prayer of faith and will answer in accordance with His own perfect will for the sick, suffering, and afflicted (Luke 18:1-8; John 5:7-9; 2 Cor. 12:6-10; James 5:13-16; 1 John 5:14, 15).

 That is all brethren dunk only.. not the word of God for my experience in the baptism of the Holy Sprit is real and so are my speaking, praying in tongues , something you cannot talk about cause you have never firstly personal  experienced it

 Like I said read all of my post they disprove all you believe in and often

ses also

http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/how-to-pray-for-healing/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/

Mind you the brethren have to next attack me with personal slander

>>Your biterness betrays you

they you do not know me well enough to be a false judge of me..

Again now do read all my posts.. telling the truth about the Brethren is not bitterness, but my real honesty for  even a doctor tells negative truths.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/lies-slander-personal-defamation-on-the-net-be-warned/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/relgion-finding-out-the-facts-discovering-the-truth/

Site Searches- Questions and Anwsers

Most people do not realize that blog owners may get statistics that reveal some of the searches on my interent sites as well. Here are a few I saw just this week
 
– are the Palin children missing school during travel.. of course, but they will make up  for it..
-what does it mean when God calls you? Generally it means God has clearly , specially  ordained now you to be an Apostle- Missionary, Prophet, – elders, teacher- pastors evangelist, etc.,
-Is Canada’s prime Minister   Steven Harper a pretender professing Christian or a real one? unlikely he is a real Christian.
-what does it mean to hateth one’s life? means to be God centered verses self centered
-what does it mean to follow Christ? it means to daily let the voice of the holy spirit lead you in your life.
-and those with Jesus Christ now  are they also called chosen ? yes, they have been chosen before the foundations of the world to be with him in heaven..
-am in need of a born again mentor to stay a Christian? no! you need the read the bible, pray and to let the Holy sprit Guide you
-what does glory mean in the bible mean ? the honor of God
what functions do elders play in a church? depends on what church now. in some churches they supervise the pastor in others they are falsely slave of the pastor
– what about the the Bible reference to to the laying on of hands.. impartation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is it valid for today.. of course.. Jesus has not changed..
– is a head deacon Biblical? not really, it is men’s preferences to have a head.. Christ is the sole necessary head..
– was the FGBMFI exposed for corruptions, falsehoods? sounds more like one sided prorpganda
– are there a unchristian pastor and what to do about it? Pray for them and fire them..
– Does Jesus give  to non Christians, hears their prayers too? he is not obligated to do so..
– what about LDS Mormon and their supposed authority structure is it true or false? yes the whole system is false
– are some persons now also overly hypocritical,” “insensitive,” and “judgmental”, of course.
– Can a Christian marry a  non christian.. no! and you should Marry the person God has chosen for you.
-a Christian point what true religion really means, is? practicing Christianity
-what does disciple means “KJV”? a True Christian
-divorce rate amongst Pentecostals, Christians? 30 percent and it is all unacceptable
– is Stephen Harper  and his church now evangelical Pentecostals? No.. they are watered down supposed Christians
– difference Pentecostal verses alliance.. often significant.. alliance is a bad group..
– listen for the voice of the lord means what? listening to the real voice of the Holy Sprit.
– what does the word Levi ,scribe, Pharisee, hireling,  Pastor, elders, apostle, prophet, teacher mean? Depends on who you ask it seems.
– worship longing for god means what? putting God first and praising him
– why tax-exempt donations are meaningless? you are giving with bad motives
– what does the word Sarah mean in the bible–  read it in the bible
– following Jesus Christ means what? following after his Holy spirit, the Bible..
 – what about the Calgary Christian centre? It had bad pastors, is closed now
– Phillip the deacon in the bible.. a good one too
– what does the word beloved mean? Loved by God, others
– What about conservative alcoholics? bad persons..
– what about diseases from shit? they can kill you..
– what is the church structure for the Christian missionary alliance? false, corporation
– what about the Toronto airport  fellowship Church pastors? seem to like to lie, slander, gossip, live high on the hog
 -Christian tithe distribution? 1/7 to be given to the poor people, the rest to the Christian families, and yourself as well..  it differs from Muslim tithing and fasting too. 
– is Sarah Palin heath candy bar heir? more rather the heir of God’s eternal life.
– what does the number 1, 7, 3,  19 really means?  12+7
– what do you do  about bad elders? Fire them
– Is dispensational teachings, false, a bad thing? really bad..
– Is Sarah Palin a real Christian? So far yes.
– What about Bell Sympatico? a really bad corporation
– Are most Canadians happy about having another election so soon? Generally not, it is costly too.
 
I also read some really absurd comments, searches showing that persons  on the net even  looking to spread both their hatred and ignorance..

 

 

Actually had most people actually read the Bible daily they would know most of the answers already but I have generally covered these topics on my various sites.
 
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 see also

  http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/trackback/

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/prime-minister-sets-our-watchdogs-on-the-press/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/the-realy-bad-alliance-churches/

 

 

the Child of God

While there is not one person on earth that does not fall short of the glory of God, not one of us measure up in the sight of God.

 
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26)
 
The very first verse in the Bible tells us that God created the heaven and the earth.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (Genesis 1:1)
 
The first three verses in the Gospel of John tell us that the Word made ALL things,  including heaven and earth.
 
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:1-3) 
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. (John 1:14-17)
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; (Isaiah 44:24)
Jesus Christ is the creator, the sole eternal God, the Father, the Word, the Son and

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (John 1:10-14)

When the Lord Jesus Christ began his ministry he was rejected by the majority of the Jewish people, and that is what “his own received him not” is speaking about. But the scriptures also tell us that as many who DID receive him (Jesus), received the power to become the sons (children) of God. So once again we see that the determining factor as to what makes a person a “child of God,” is what that same person does with Jesus Christ.

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)

Those words still stand true today. There is no other way to heaven, and there is no other name outside the name of Jesus Christ to be saved.

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (Romans 5:8-9)

And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:23-24)

Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Acts 4:10-12)

And you hath he quickened (made ALIVE), who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. (Ephesians 2:1-3)

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23)

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

While there is not one person on earth that does not fall short of the glory of God, not one of us measure up in the sight of God.

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. (Romans 5:8-9)

Any person who dies without Jesus Christ will die in their sins,

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (John 8:24)

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (John 3:36)

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. (Proverbs 1:7)

The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. (Proverbs 8:13)

In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge. (Proverbs 14:26)

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. (Hebrews 9:27-28)

Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. (John 8:42-47)

If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. (1 John 5:9-12)

  And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. (Mark 1:15)

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mark 16:15-16)

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek (Gentile). (Romans 1:16)
 
For a lot of people their too often false version of mere Christianity seems to consists of Having a blog with the word Christian and their name on it, or  going to church 3 times a years and  for others it is going Sunday morning.. but not to any of the prayer meetings, or the Sunday night services..  and that is all it is it  seems.. then others seem to wonder why these people have gone astray are so much in error  now too.
 
But my own version of Christianity is significantly deeper, and broader as well.
 
Firstly I accepted the personally need to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and personal savior from all of our sins as well nut I also believe in the need of Sanctification, the Baptism of the Holy spirit where one next is equipped  for God’s service, God will and plan for their life, including charismatic’s gifts now too.
 
I also do believe in the need of all Christians to have daily devotionals, Bible and prayer time with God preferably  both morning and evenings, starting and ending the day with God, and where God can personally speak to us,   teach, direct us some more. Just as I believe in daily repentances, confesions to God the admission of our sins now too
 
I belief when the bible says the just shall live by  faith now that includes each and every person, they are to trust God to supply their needs, wants, desires, to live their life based on God words, his instructions to them, not based on falsely following after other men or women, or one’ supposed personal inclination, supposed talents.
 
I rightfully believe the same equal rights now of all persons, of all ages too, and in voluntarily, unenforceable, mutal submissions to any Christian persons, pastors, elders.. and I do not believe in any enslavements. hierarchy pecking order etc.,,
 
I also do believe in the personal need of appropriate evangelism, our being able to share, to explain , to teach to others the biblical the reasons for one’s Christian based faith, beliefs.
 
I belief also in the need of all Christians in both social actions and political action now too. We all do need to be really concerned, involved  personally and as a church in  helping the poor and needy people starting in our own church, neighborhood  too. I clearly believe in guiding, directing, instructing the political leaders to make the right choices, decisions, laws now too and insuring that we elect the best persons available for the job, not necessity Christian ones even.
 
Having a good time, being self centered, selfish, acquiring all the material goods, pleasure one can have is certainly not what being a Christian now is all about too.
 
Yes I also believe that Christians can only marry another really Christians and that Christians cannot divorce, while they temporarily can get a separation, for proper Biblical counseling mostly.
 
I rightfully and clearly now still do not believe in having the wife as the boss, head of the home, her having all of the say, the sole run of all things now too.
 
I also do not believe in taking any ostrich approach when we personally eye unacceptable wrong doings towards ourselves and others, and I do believe in asking all of the bad persons to repent, to even next openly expose, rebuke them now even too for their wrong doings and repentances, even if they think they are somebody, a pastor , cop or politician , professional included.. God himself does not accept personal or human rights abuses, sins, unrepentances  quitely.
 
Nor do I  I automatically assume that all cops, lawyer’s judges are decent, honest, the real purveyors of justices too.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
Jesus said by their own fruits you can tell what a tree is like for a good tree brings forth good fruit, and a bad tree bad fruit..
 
nope I did not say that Jesus now did.
 
So I have a right to be a fruit inspector and what must I think when I myself have seen see many bad fruits for a church, a denomination..
That Jesus will remove their candlestick too?
 
(Mat 18:17 KJV) And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.
 
(Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(Eph 5:24 KJV) Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
(Eph 5:27 KJV) That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
 
(Rev 2:4 KJV) Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
 
(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
 
(Rev 3:1 KJV) And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
 
All Dispensationalists,  Plymouth brethren. Messianic Jews    who think they can accept Christ and still continue to even live in sin with no negative real personal consequences next too because they have intellectually now accepted who Jesus Christ is can  go and lie to someone else for rightfully  I am not stupid to believe anything they say ..       for I have learned decades and decades ago that the dispensationalists, Plymouth Brethren , even many messianic Jews are deceitful..    While these Brethren even say they Believe the Bible is the Word of God, they too  clearly do have this unholy, desperate and complicated need to reinterpret almost every  passages of the Bible suitable to their own liking. “A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him  that understandeth” (Proverbs 14:6)
(Pro 2:10) When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;
(Pro 2:11) Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:
(Pro 2:12) To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
(Pro 2:13) Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;
(Pro 2:14) Who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the frowardness of the wicked;
(Pro 2:15) Whose ways are crooked, and they froward in their paths:

do  see
 
      

 

Neither give place to the devil.

 

 
Thanks  for visiting my site..
  
(Acts 20:29 KJV)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
(Acts 20:30 KJV)  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
(Acts 20:31 KJV)  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
(Acts 20:32 KJV)  And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
(Acts 20:33 KJV)  I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.
(Acts 20:34 KJV)  Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
(Acts 20:35 KJV)  I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
(2 Tim 3:2 KJV)  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(2 Tim 3:3 KJV)  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(2 Tim 3:4 KJV)  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(2 Tim 3:5 KJV)  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(2 Tim 3:6 KJV)  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(2 Tim 3:7 KJV)  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 
I was once taken by surprise when a professing evangelical founding Baptist  church pastor said to me he did not accept negative comments  in his church, and he did not talk about sins now too.. yes he was next  the same immoral Pastor who had said he could not understand what Hitler now did that was so bad.. so I helped to fire him, he rightfully is no long a church pastor
  
Firstly Mormons  do not believe that Jesus Christ is God himself so we have no similiar beliefs. All Mormons are really lost still too, they are all going to Hell still next too. As simple as that.
            
Morons are not Holy Spirit led, they admit that they still are man led rather so they do not know the Bible spirtual truths, and so they can’t understand it still.
 
Speaking of false oppressions the Mormons tend to be the biggest false persons, hypocrites I also do know.. I openly and rightfully have no use for their lies, distortions, pretence too..  for they even mostly lie when they claim they even know and read the Bible for otherwise they would not be so dumb to contradict it all the time.. in their mostly false doctrines, false teachings now too.
 
 God was never married, and he never had sex with anyone too.. Jesus is not the twin of the devil, rather Jesus  still he is God himself.. he Jesus had said I and the father are one.
 
(John 10:30 KJV)  I and my Father are one. 31  Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32  Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
 
and no Mormon add on, re-interpretations, additional distortions are needed. the verse is straightforward and a simple one..
 
Water itself exists in three states, solid, liquid and gas and so does God  The creator HIMSELF can certainly duplicate his CREATIONS STILL TOO..
 
NOW God, his Son, and the Spriit of Christ, God, the Holy Spirit are one still too, even though each one OF THEM  is an indivual  person, and each one of them do even personally talk to me too today.
 
(John 14:21 KJV)  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
 
(John 14:23 KJV)  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our (Plural) abode with him.
 
(John 14:26 KJV)  But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
 
(John 15:4 KJV)  Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
 
(John 15:5 KJV)  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
 
(John 15:6 KJV)  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
 
(John 15:7 KJV)  If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
 
 The Mormons should stop listening to all of  their false prophets, false elders, false apostles, false teachers  and start to really talk to and to listen to Jesus and his Holy Spirit. Almost 99 percent of real Christians, evangelicals, Catholics, Pentecostals rightfully do believe Mormons are not Christians, are a cult.
 
I also do not have to work to get in Heaven, for already I am in Heaven now, I am with God, with  His son and His Holy Spirt now, I already do  have a relationship with all three of them now.. and the rest of the persons being in Hell now  is them now being seperated from all three of  them, from the Trinity.. by even their own confessions too.. for you cannot have one and not have the others..
 
(Mat 19:21 KJV)  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
 
(Luke 6:40 KJV)  The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
 
(John 17:23 KJV)  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
 
 (Rom 12:2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
(Gal 3:3 KJV)  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
 
(Eph 4:13 KJV)  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
 
 (Rev 3:2 KJV)  Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
  
 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”  2 Corinthians 11:3-4
 
One of the best way to catch fish, suckers  is to use a snared hook, loaded with genuine live bait, a genuine sounding such as one lying to the unsuspecting  person and telling them, guaranteeing them a  Divine Appointment that you will next share with them, and only the whole truth.. all now based solely on the solid rock of the preserved Word of God, even as God himself now opens doors for me to touch the lives of others, and WOW, Unbelievable, and sadly YES too often that is true..  Unbelievable..  all occurring  sadly of course by the PRESENTER, AUTHOR  unacceptably neglecting to tell them all beforehand about the hidden lies, the false hooks of course!!!
 
The false hooks of mere man’s interpretations, mere men’s teachings and not God’s now as well.. a false detour, deviation actually next from the real truth in the Bible, even from the Holy Sprit’s personal teachings now to, all made now to make sure you will never see  God’s whole truths.  Mind you and do note how how really subtle the devil is here now too. Not surprisingly the devil also now uses  the same techniques when he uses the Mormons, the Jehovah Witnesses,  and others to get you hooked on their distortions, lies, reinterpretations too..
 
 I too now have learned decades and decades ago that the Brethren are most often  deceitful in their evangelcial outreach, presentations.. meaning that they speak with a forked toungue, and meaning they generally are not straightforward and honest, immediately forthcoming what they realy believe in, who they really are now firstly too, and so we all have to beware of them.. and now I have known much too many of them  too..  and I had next found just a few of them that were really honest, Christians, only a very, very  small portion
 
 “I have learned decades and decades ago that the Brethren are deceitful.. ” they always have their own comments, reinterpretation the Bible.. their own false context and many of them are rightfully now going to hell… they like to tell people what to do, but do not like others to tell them the truth about themselves.
 
by the way most of my family on my wife’s side are Plymouth brethren, still they cheat, lies, steal, slander, commit adultery  and they are all undeniably going to hell,  with their bad pastors, deacons, elders too..
 
All of us Living by faith for God to supply our needs, God alone to guide, lead us is not an option..
 
The brethren love to preach about the life of Rev George Muller who lived by faith, but they themselves lack faith for God to supply the needs so they now sell his books AND why do they lack faith? faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God..  but they still are mostly listen listen to mere men, men’s commentaries, dictionaries too  and not to God himself and  Jesus said my sheep hear my voice.. they cannot hear his voice..
 
When I look at a new professing Christian site  such as vision20twenty   and it makes the typical generall  proclamations that they will next guide and lead us into all truth, and only will offer the whole truth, and that they are also non denominational, real Christians, who now do promote now only the Bible and nothing more than that  and   based on my past encounters, expericnes now  I can most often be rest assured they are mere wolves in sheep clothing, the  false Brethren with their false  dispensational doctrines… including nopw http://vision20twenty.org/ where” God gave man a new dispensation (stewardship) of truth”
 
Especially too when  there are few Dispensationalist who do even agree with each other, who do even believe in most of the same things, do as well accept the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit, or the present existence of the of 5 fold New testament Biblical Ministry offices of Ephesians.
 
(Mat 19:21 KJV)  Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
 
(Luke 6:40 KJV)  The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
 
(John 17:23 KJV)  I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
 
 (Rom 12:2 KJV)  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
 
(Gal 3:3 KJV)  Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
 
(Eph 4:13 KJV)  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
 
 (Rev 3:2 KJV)  Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
 
Do  see my posts on what a real Christian is.. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/what-does-it-really-mean-to-follow-jesus-christ/
 

have learned decades and decades ago that most of the Brethren not just the too many bad pastors  are also deceitful, nasty, abuseful and really unacceptably bad.. they falsely are control freaks, who falsely love to practise divorce, even the silent treatment to those who do not  give them what they want.. do now see also  the postings on the topics in http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/

 

 

 

Too many preachers, teachers, people overly simplify the Gospel and distort it. Ostriches too tend to deny the negative truths of the Bible still too.

The world most famous evangelist had mislead the people, lied and had said Come to Christ and he will solve all of your problems, marital ones included.. Misleading for  God rather may let your spouse divorce you instead for your own benefit too.
 

and  in reality God will forgive your sins, but still likely allow you to reap some of the related negative consequences so that the next time you be less tempted to do it again.. for we have this treasure in earthen vessels
 
(Eph 4:26 KJV)  Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
 
(Eph 4:27 KJV)  Neither give place to the devil.
   
 
(Eph 4:28 KJV)  Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
 

(Eph 4:29 KJV)  Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
 
(Eph 4:30 KJV)  And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
 
(Eph 4:31 KJV)  Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
 
(Eph 4:32 KJV)  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.
 
(Eph 5:1 KJV)  Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
 
 Some people lie and say anger is a sin, but even God gets angry at sin, ignorance and a lot more..
 
The road to Hell itself is paved often now with our good intentions and those of others now as well. Sad!

James 1:19-25  So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. 

“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”  2 Corinthians 11:3-4
 
 Daniel 7:25, “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” Daniel 8:12, “And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it CAST DOWN THE TRUTH TO THE GROUND; and it practiced, and prospered.”
 
 2 Thessalonians 2:10. “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.” 11, “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.”  12, “That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
 
If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book. (Revelation 22:18)
 
Too many persons, especially any recent converts are either unaware, or unwilling to examine, accept the official historic position of their church, denomination, the views of the critics now too . the truth is not often known even because too often the bad leaders, not only hide the truth, they  do not openly encourage a review, or disclose the negative aspects of their sect, cult, denomination in reality. We have to still personally judge and examine always all we hear, see , read..
 
Still many persons too often when next told the whole truth  their first reaction is, “My church doesn’t teach that!” Study, read the proof for yourself firstly! Examine the hidden agendas too. Even note this many of critics have too often false hidden biases and agendas now..
 
John 2:3-4, KJV, “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”  For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” (Galatians 3:10)  For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. (Romans 10:4; see also Acts 15:28-29) “Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness”  (Romans 4:3). This is how a person is justified and found righteous before God, and this is how a person lives a righteous life, by faith (Galatians 3:11). It is not by keeping the law of God, because “if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain” (Galatians 2:21). Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them. (Hebrews 13:9; see also Mark 7:14-19)

Contrary to the gospel of the New Testament, of Jesus, and the Apostles, the Seventh day  Adventists falsely teach that observance of all of the Old testament law as being still binding on all Christians today. “Adventists do differ from other Christians in that they celebrate the Bible sabbath from sundown Friday until sundown Saturday. They the Seventh day  Adventists falsely believe that all of past the laws of God are still binding on Christians today and that those who love Jesus will keep all of His, God’s  commandments. Very misleading too.

“Moreover, in their commandments of men, Adventists advocate a vegetarian diet. God undeniably created meat so we can it it.. but moderation, and self control are still always required. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving. (1 Timothy 4:4)  Scripture does not promote a vegetarian diet as “healthier.” What Scripture basically promotes as “healthier” is firstly the attention to the wisdom of God, which, by the way, promotes the eating of meat (Genesis 9:3; 18:1-8; Leviticus 10:14; Deuteronomy 12:15, 20-21; 27; Proverbs 9:2; 1 Corinthians 10:25; 1 Timothy 4:4)  My son, give attention to my words; incline your ear to my sayings. Do not let them depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart; for they are life to those who find them, and health to all their flesh. (Proverbs 4:20-22)  It is the word of God that gives longer life” (Psalm 91:16; Proverbs 3:1-2; Ephesians 6:2-3), makes one “healthier” (Proverbs 3:7-8; 4:20-22), and makes one “happier,” as it is written,  Happy is the man who finds wisdom, and the man who gains understanding; for her proceeds are better than the profits of silver, and her gain than fine gold. (Proverbs 3:13-14; see also Psalm 128:1-2; 144:15; 146:5; Proverbs 3:18; 14:21; 16:20; 28:14; 29:18; Romans 14:22)”

The Seventh-day Adventist church they believe the Bible teaches that the state of man in death is unconsciousness and also the Adventists reject the Biblical truth of an eternal hell of torment. This “unconscious state” is a Fundamental Belief of the Adventist church (” . . . death is an unconscious state for all people, ” Fundamental Beliefs, #25  www.adventist.org/beliefs/index.html, ).  

They here too are fundamentally wrong. Please note that in Luke 16:19-30. Both Abraham and the rich man are very much conscience, yet both of their bodies are in the grave (Genesis 25:7-9; Luke 16:22). Not only is God going to “realize that in His universe souls” are “suffering torment” that will never end, but they will suffer in His very presence (e.g. Revelation 14:10-11); people will go out and look at them (Isaiah 66:24); and the righteous (Psalm 58:9-10), the daughters of Jerusalem (Psalm 97:7-9), creation (Psalm 96:10-13), and God Himself will rejoice over their judgment (Psalm 104:31; Luke 10:21-23; Revelation 18:20; 19:1-7). Revelation 20:10  And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Note also the things they the Seventh day  Adventists too now have in common with the false cults of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons, and many others now too.. contradicting the word of God.

“SDA’s share their early history with the Jehovah’s Witnesses. An early Adventist, N. H. Barbour co-published with Charles Taze Russell. They had a falling out over (what else?) dates for the end of the world! (1844 and 1874), and parted company.
 
Both, however, kept heretical doctrines to this day like Jesus being Michael the Archangel, the denial of Hell, and both still advocate soul sleep. Both invented invisible occurrences in heaven for their failed dates for Christ’s visible return, investigative judgment for the SDA’s and Christ’s invisible “presence” for Jehovah’s Witnesses.
 
There is Mormon link also for the SDA’s. It is a proven fact that Ellen G. White plagiarized most of her writings. The Church has been challenged by Walter Rea, author of the White Lie to prove that even 20% of her writings are original. They can’t. Their weak defense was that there were no copyright laws in Ellen’s day, so what she did was legal. You will never be told of her plagiarism by the SDA’s.
 
As Ellen was rising to prominence, Joseph Smith had just died. Her writings contain many phrases used by Joseph Smith. Mind you, he has also been accused of plagiarism. I have a thick file of similarities, but time does not permit details at this time, but it does illustrate just how far her “borrowing” went.
 
SDA’s often make every effort to appear “evangelical”, joining in with inter-ministry groups and trying to “blend in” with the Christian community.
 
They   consider themselves to be exclusive, and spiritually superior to the rest of of the professing Christians too.” Pride cometh before a great fall.
   
Please do see also
 
 
Some people, hypocrites are so ready to preach to the others but they clearly cannot sill live the truth they preach themselves. I too rightfully would like to see a sermon practiced, not one merely lip serviced..
 
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