This next was so predictable even by me too

  The Bell company has also adopted rebranded its Bell ExpressVu, Sympatico and residential service in favour of Bell TV, Bell Internet and Bell Home Phone.  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/bell-bce-own-profitability/

The new image will not deny the same bad Bell  http://canadatoday9.multiply.com/journal/item/4/HOW_TO_DEAL_WITH_MAJOR_COMPLAINTS

“It’s all to convince to convey that Bell is and has gotten better,” Bell Mobility president Wade Oosterman said in an interview.

But telecom analyst Carmi Levy of AR Communications said the changes will have little impact unless they are accompanied by a dramatic improvement to customer service.

“You can change your logo and you can change the name of your offering until the cows come home but if you don’t change the fundamental way that you operate, then the rebranding effort will be for not,” the Toronto-based analyst said in an interview.

He said Bell needs to be less adversarial and aggressive with customers and more responsive to their needs.

“This needs to be just the first salvo in an ongoing effort to become a softer friendlier company to deal with.”

New Bell chief executive George Cope has promised to improve customer service as it completely overhauls the vast business. The Montreal-based company recently announced plans to shed 15 per cent of management and sell non-core assets.

Bell hangs up on 2500 jobs
Toronto Starall 199 news articles »  En Français »

   Analysts say there’s more bloodletting ahead at telecom giant Bell Canada following news yesterday the company is axing 2500 managers .  – BCE Inc.’s newly appointed chief executive George Cope announced the company will shed 2,500 management positions representing several layers of bureaucracy as the first steps of a plan designed to steer the bloated telecommunication giant back into competitive shape. The layoffs, which include the reduction of 15 per cent of BCE’s management and 30 per cent of its senior leadership team, will be focused in the company’s main business units such as its Bell Canada, Mobility, ExpressVu and Enterprise groups, Cope said. Non-management front-line service positions are not affected by the announcement, although it is expected some of its 54,000-strong workforce will be cut by the end of the year.

 I have written a lot even on the net  in  the last 18 months how bad Bell really has become.. http://www.google.com/search?q=thenonconformer+sympatico&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1 

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/bell-sympatico-executive-care-sasha-rollins/ 

 

 

If you’re sgned up with a locked in agreement with either carrier, and have selected your desired plan option, the Quebec man is arguing that the carrier is not permitted to change the terms of said plan until the contract has ended. 
 
 
Where’s Canada’s regulator? Globe and Mail, Canada –  Coincidentally, this morning also brought news that a class-action lawsuit has been launched in Quebec over plans by Bell Mobility Inc. and Telus …
  
 
Bell Canada Ontario class action  p2pnet.net, Canada – 22 Jul 2008 Says Drake in a p2pnet Reader’s Write, “Ontario residents can now join the class action suit against Bell for throttling.” Bell Canada has been trying to …
 
  
 the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic, based at the University of Ottawa’s Faculty of Law, asked the federal Privacy Commissioner to investigate the Internet service provider (ISP) industry’s practice of profiling users online to target them with advertising… You’d think the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission would have stepped into that role a little more energetically than it has. It seems to have been loath to delve too far into holding high-tech companies accountable to any standards.  The CRTC’s U.S. counterpart, the Federal Communications Commission, is a much more aggressive regulator (in a land obsessed with deregulation). This morning the FCC took a step closer to “punishing” Comcast after the company had blocked Internet traffic among users of file-sharing software that allows them to exchange large amounts of data. Though the punishment is not likely to include a fine, it could require Comcast to stop blocking peer-to-peer traffic, open up their business to the FCC describing what exactly Comcast had done and to be a lot more transparent with its customers about how it manages its network… Why do practices like these have to be handled by individuals launching lawsuits or self-appointed law clinics writing stiff letters? Why are our regulators quiet while the service providers, of both Internet and cellphone services, keep charging whatever they want and doing things that they wouldn’t do if they were more actively regulated? It’s not like Canadian Internet providers have been angels, living just above the poverty line. But it appears they have been milking their customers, and should be accountable for their actions.
  
Ottawa sends own message on new cellphone fees
Toronto Star,  Canada – 5 hours ago
He said that, as of yesterday, 270 people had signed up for the lawsuit against Telus and another 306 for the suit against Bell. …
Ontarians join anti-text fee lawsuit Toronto Sun
Class-action sought over messaging fees Globe and Mail
SMS Alert: Class Action Suit Filed Against Bell, Telus MarketnewsGadgetTalk
Prepaid Reviews – TheChronicleHerald.ca
all 192 news articles »
 
Class Action Lawsuit Launched Against Telus and Bell
Mobile Magazine – 28 Jul 2008
In fact, the Canadian populace is so angry at Telus and Bell that they are launching a class action lawsuit over the incoming text message fee. …
Class action suit filed against Bell, Telus for new texting fees CBC.ca
Bell, Telus facing possible lawsuits over text fees CJAD
Bell and Telus sued over incoming text fees Winnipeg Sun
CTV.ca – Canoe.ca
all 104 news articles »
    
I do not have to accept any of the negative consequences, or bad acts of other persons  and their sins too. Not even those by the Liberals or the Conservatives leaders now too.
That includes their verbal abuse, physical abuse, slander, lies, emotional abuses, their false silent treatment too now. etc.. I can even tell them that now too. 

Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons seems to be most effective way that works for everyone’s benefit in dealing with the bad acts of others still.

(Job 28:28 KJV)  And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

I still am often amazed how many control freaks I do encounter, and yes often they can also be found in schools, homes, work, church,  governments, elsewhere too.. these are people who often claim they are giving you some helpful hints, tips, advice but are trying to manipulate you to do something they rather want.  
 
Control freaks do often have a terrible personal, social  life too and do often make all life terrible for those they live with, marry, work with, come in contact with.
   
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:29 AM
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Subject: : Bell
I have received today your illegal, unsigned Bell  letter to me dated July 24, 2008  Subject account Number 48180409 COLLECTION AGENCY ACTION PENDING 
  
 Unless you in  full and adequately answer all of my past 300 letters of complaint to you, you are again warned any other further actions by Bell  towards me will be taken as personal harassment of me, and they not only will be fully exposed to all on the net too, but  I will call the police, the RCMP as well and rightfully have  you charged with harassment.
 
Paul Kambulow
Bell continues to cheat, lie, steal, abuse..
     
50 Cent Files Taco Bell Lawsuit
Artistdirect.com, CA – 25 Jul 2008
50 Cent’s legal team has filed a lawsuit against Taco Bell, saying he never agreed to endorse their value menu. In a recent commercial, the company suggests …
50 Cent says Taco Bell stole his endorsement Reuters
UPDATE: Rapper 50 Cent Sues Taco Bell Over Name-Change Letter CNNMoney.com
50 Cent sues Taco Bell over ad campaign The Associated Press
E! Online – MTV.com
all 669 news articles »
 
Posted on the net too.
 related posts:
Class action suit filed against Bell, Telus for new texting fees
CBC.ca, Canada – 23 hours ago
Eric Cormier, who has subscribed to Bell Mobility for the past decade, says by introducing the new fees, the companies have changed the terms of their cellular contracts.”This was something that was free up until then and the problem for the consumers is that they cannot re-negotiate the contract,” said lawyer Noel Saint-Pierre.

“What we’re trying to get the court to say is that for the duration of a contract … the telephone company should not be able to unilaterally modify the conditions of the contract.” as e-mail and MMS continue to gain popularity among phone users, undoubtedly resulting in increased revenues for carriers, Bell and Telus decide to nickel and dime the occassional users.     

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Justifiable Consumer uproar in Canada

 

I have sent many letters to the useless Minister of Industry, Consumer affairs,  Jim Prentice MP   CorrespondenceMinister@ic.gc.ca  and when I next phoned them in Ottawa and I HAD RECENTLY asked about a decent reply to my many letters, they said they do not know where they are,  and for me to mail them again TO THEM.. RATHER ask them to read them on the net too then for they are there as well!! Let them RE read this too..

 
Stephen Harper is a hit when viewed from afar Calgary Herald,  Canada –  From a close-up perspective, the Conservative government has put in a fairly credible, largely scandal-free performance since the election in 2006 ????????????????????? Not true!
The MP Stephen Harper, he is nice from far but far from nice, as we all know also that he lies, lied, had broken most of his re-election promises, which the Conservative Ostriches in Alberta would now have us falsely try to deny, and even have us wrongfully  to become liars like them now too…  even denying Harper’s and the Conservative promises of full openness, transparency ,  accountability and not to hire any conservative friends, etc,… to be different than the other parties now too.. not be merely another  bullies, bashers, liars, slanderers, living high on the hog, alcoholics, etc,..
the typical bad lawyer, Minister of industry, consumer affairs, Jim Prentice MP, also hires his Conservative friend, shame on you.. Tories appoint Reform founder Manning to science advisory panel  AND as for Preston Manning ALL HE SEEMS TO LOVE TO TALK ABOUT MONEY THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.. NOW HE MANNING WILL GET MORE MONEY TO DO THAT TOO. ABSURD! If he is now a real Christian then I am a monkey’s uncle too. HOW IS THAT FOR A SCIENTIFIC INPUT?
 
So the Industry minister even calls on Bell, Telus to explain new text charges- 
 
 

 

This is not even a new issue but an old one. I firstly could not help but notice that a very significant AMOUNT OF YOUNG PEOPLE USE THE iPHONES AND COMPUTERS STILL, and that as a direct result we now have whole generation of users who clearly do strongly hate the federal government as well as the big corporations for allowing them to be abused again and again. A really Smart move??  for the Conservatives and big Corporations   getting young customers too mad at them now even for life. Certainly not a good, or a great marketing practice for  the Conservatives, the Corporations, even for Industry Minister Jim Prentice MP. The whole fiasco, poor past responses, inactions   now still being poorly thought out ironically  applies now even to to the Conservatives and the Industry Minister himself  now as well.. It all clearly falls in the same category as the Conservative Stockwell Day MP  and his past skidoo antics.

“Finally Industry Minister Jim Prentice is calling on the chief executive officers of Bell and Telus to meet with him and explain their decision to charge consumers for incoming text messages. Jim Prentice has sent letters to the heads of the two companies, has said the decision to charge consumers without text bundling packages will hurt consumers. The companies must meet with him before Aug. 8. “While I have no desire to interfere with the day-to-day business decisions of two private companies, I do have a duty as minister of industry to protect the interests of the consuming public when necessary,” Prentice said in a statement. “I believe this was a poorly thought out decision.” Under the Corporations  new plans, customers will be charged 15 cents for each incoming text message, including uninvited spam messages. Previously, customers without text plans were only charged for outgoing messages. Customers with a text messaging rate plan or bundle will not be affected by the new charges.”

Hey  let me shout it all to you again and again, as a taxpayer I too always do openly rightfully expect always a  good government, and I rightfully expect the government to do it’s job, including all of it’s ministers, and I rightfully also expect them always to fully to protect the citizens from the Corporations false misleading advertising, price gouging, price fixing, price collusions, bait and switch approach sales marketing approach, and a lot more. The problem also with the industry minister acting now on the iphone text issue while better late than never, is that the same major ISPs have used the same immoral approach on their Internet services as well and to date nothing was , is being done still about that  wrongfully. and this is also still unacceptable.
It is also still  interesting how much of the negative complaints rightfully are even coming from Alberta even from the Industries Minister’s own riding, Province too, right from the heart of Conservative supporter country.
Here again is how many Canadian consumers, citizens do see it as far as the iphones mainly. “Only the person who sends the message should be charged plain and simple. Why should I pay because some spammer sent me a text message that I did not want to receive. If I don’t want to answer my phone, I can simply ignore a call, but a text message from a number I don’t recognize is delivered to my phone whether I want it to be or not.”
“Don’t think for one minute that hasn’t been their plan all along – announce it at a high rate, with the intent of “backing off” to a lower rate…and then slowly increase that rate over the next few years once there’s a general acceptance of the practice “
“I am loathe to trust a company that changes the terms of my agreement mid-contract. I would like to learn how it is that they are allowed to do this, but if I would like to change the particulars of my contract mid agreement, it is not allowed.  I would like to think that if the terms are changed, shouldn’t the principal agreement holder be notified of the changes, otherwise it be nullified?”
“Pay twice for one service…..  I’ll charge a fee to them for writing a cheque to pay my bill”
“Clearly it is in the best interest of consumers for their elected representatives to voice their concerns on top of those of the consumers when Canadians are being gouged at almost every turn. Bell and Telus clearly to not have the best interests of their customers in mind, rather as always, they are motivated by greed and profit. “
“Kudo’s to the NDP on this one!!”
This is so typical Bell, Bait and Switch,  first bait the customers and nail the customers on the  extras next too.
Google slams Bell Canada: open Internet is “extraordinary”
Ars Technica – By Nate Anderson | Published: July 08, 2008 – 12:30PM CT The public comments on Bell Canada’s P2P throttling practices are in, and one thing is clear: a gulf the size of Nunavut separates the huge ISPs from web-based companies and consumer groups. Google goes further; not only should Bell stop picking and choosing which lawful apps to throttle, but the company needs to start upgrading its infrastructure in a serious way. Throttling merely “encourages carriers to build their business model around managing scarcity, rather than developing more abundant capacity.
Google slams Bell Canada for throttling Internet Canada.com TORONTO – Internet heavyweight Google Inc. has waded into a fight with Bell Canada, saying the telecommunications company should be “prohibited” from the practice of curtailing of peer-to-peer Internet use to manage limited capacity on its network.
Google joins in Bell Canada traffic throttling war p2pnet.net
CBC.ca – ITBusiness.ca – FierceTelecom – mediacaster
all 16 news articles »

Cellphone users to be charged for incoming text messages
CBC.ca –  Cellphone users with Bell and Telus are going to have to fork over a little more to receive incoming text messages, under new pricing plans slated to roll out in August.
Get ready to pay for incoming text messages Canada.com
Uproar over new Canadian texting fees United Press International
Mobile Magazine – Soonews.ca – QuicklyBored – The Province
all 40 news articles »  En Français »

There is a  public outrage on the part of Canadian consumers following the release of the local pricing plans. Apple the iPhone maker has watched nearly 50,000 of its loyal customers sign an anti-Rogers petition at ruinediphone.com, which has in turn sparked hundreds of potentially damaging reports on the matter by bloggers and members of the mainstream media.

Canada’s cellphone market is currently dominated by three key players – Bell (TSX:BCE), Telus and Rogers Communications Inc.(TSX:RCI.B).

The petition has attracted attention in Canada and abroad, but it won’t have any effect on Rogers unless consumers follow through with the old-fashioned but simple and reliable strategy for pulling down prices.

If you don’t like the price of an iPhone, don’t buy it. If Rogers finds it has priced itself out of the market, it won’t take a petition to ring in lower prices.

All that is just the beginning of the Customer reactions, war I had written about months ago too.

Prentice calls Bell, Telus to task for decision to charge clients without bundle The Canadian Press – Wed Jul 9, 4:05 PM

OTTAWA – Industry Minister Jim Prentice is taking Bell Mobility and Telus Mobility to task for their plans to charge some of their customers for each incoming text message and called both company CEOs to Ottawa to explain their “ill-thought out” decision.

and what about big bad Bell sympatico

  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/bell-bce-sympatico-iphone/

Internet oversight
Globe and Mail – 3 hours ago
Toronto — Re Google Raises Fuss Over Bell’s Speed Bumps (Report on Business, July 9): Bell Canada and other telecommunications companies have been slowing, shaping and restricting Internet traffic for some time.
Google slams “throttling” of internet traffic in Canada Digital Home
Google condemns Bell’s ‘throttling’ practice Toronto Star
Canada.com – Ars Technica – CBC.ca – BetaNews
all 51 news articles »

 

Canada’s phone companies and the federal government itself  have still even failed to understand how the consumers, markets are changing.. so both Bell and Telus get hit by a backlash over new texting prices.  It is not just  about price, it was about the restriction and limitation of the user experiences too. Canadian telecom giants are feeling the heat like never before by  an increasingly savvy and demanding customer against finely tuned telecom incumbents . There is   irony to the fact that as the phone companies roll out new services that allow people to communicate instantly in new ways, their customers are using the technology to express their criticism of how those services are offered and priced.  the government’s plan to keep the wireless industry also unregulated is real crap.  Neither of these rather mostly abusive parties  are about to listen to the Canadian Customers still, it will take more drastic responses..
 

Justifiable Uproar

I have sent many letters to the useless Minister of Industry, Consumer affairs,  Jim Prentice MP   CorrespondenceMinister@ic.gc.ca ; and when I next phoned them in Ottawa and I HAD RECENTLY asked about a decent reply to my many letters, they said they do not know where they are,  and for me to mail them again TO THEM.. RATHER ask them to read them on the net too then for they are there as well!! Let them RE read this too..

 
Stephen Harper is a hit when viewed from afar Calgary Herald,  Canada –  From a close-up perspective, the Conservative government has put in a fairly credible, largely scandal-free performance since the election in 2006 ????????????????????? Not true!
The MP Stephen Harper, he is nice from far but far from nice, as we all know also that he lies, lied, had broken most of his re-election promises, which the Conservative Ostriches in Alberta would now have us falsely try to deny, and even have us wrongfully  to become liars like them now too…  even denying Harper’s and the Conservative promises of full openness, transparency ,  accountability and not to hire any conservative friends, etc,… to be different than the other parties now too.. not be merely another  bullies, bashers, liars, slanderers, living high on the hog, alcoholics, etc,..
the typical bad lawyer, Minister of industry, consumer affairs, Jim Prentice MP, also hires his Conservative friend, shame on you.. Tories appoint Reform founder Manning to science advisory panel  AND as for Preston Manning ALL HE SEEMS TO LOVE TO TALK ABOUT MONEY THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.. NOW HE MANNING WILL GET MORE MONEY TO DO THAT TOO. ABSURD! If he is now a real Christian then I am a monkey’s uncle too. HOW IS THAT FOR A SCIENTIFIC INPUT?
 
So the Industry minister even calls on Bell, Telus to explain new text charges- 

 

This is not even a new issue but an old one. I firstly could not help but notice that a very significant AMOUNT OF YOUNG PEOPLE USE THE iPHONES AND COMPUTERS STILL, and that as a direct result we now have whole generation of users who clearly do strongly hate the federal government as well as the big corporations for allowing them to be abused again and again. A really Smart move??  for the Conservatives and big Corporations   getting young customers too mad at them now even for life. Certainly not a good, or a great marketing practice for  the Conservatives, the Corporations, even for Industry Minister Jim Prentice MP. The whole fiasco, poor past responses, inactions   now still being poorly thought out ironically  applies now even to to the Conservatives and the Industry Minister himself  now as well.. It all clearly falls in the same category as the Conservative Stockwell Day MP  and his past skidoo antics.

“Finally Industry Minister Jim Prentice is calling on the chief executive officers of Bell and Telus to meet with him and explain their decision to charge consumers for incoming text messages. Jim Prentice has sent letters to the heads of the two companies, has said the decision to charge consumers without text bundling packages will hurt consumers. The companies must meet with him before Aug. 8. “While I have no desire to interfere with the day-to-day business decisions of two private companies, I do have a duty as minister of industry to protect the interests of the consuming public when necessary,” Prentice said in a statement. “I believe this was a poorly thought out decision.” Under the Corporations  new plans, customers will be charged 15 cents for each incoming text message, including uninvited spam messages. Previously, customers without text plans were only charged for outgoing messages. Customers with a text messaging rate plan or bundle will not be affected by the new charges.”

Hey  let me shout it all to you again and again, as a taxpayer I too always do openly rightfully expect always a  good government, and I rightfully expect the government to do it’s job, including all of it’s ministers, and I rightfully also expect them always to fully to protect the citizens from the Corporations false misleading advertising, price gouging, price fixing, price collusions, bait and switch approach sales marketing approach, and a lot more. The problem also with the industry minister acting now on the iphone text issue while better late than never, is that the same major ISPs have used the same immoral approach on their Internet services as well and to date nothing was , is being done still about that  wrongfully. and this is also still unacceptable.
It is also still  interesting how much of the negative complaints rightfully are even coming from Alberta even from the Industries Minister’s own riding, Province too, right from the heart of Conservative supporter country.
Here again is how many Canadian consumers, citizens do see it as far as the iphones mainly. “Only the person who sends the message should be charged plain and simple. Why should I pay because some spammer sent me a text message that I did not want to receive. If I don’t want to answer my phone, I can simply ignore a call, but a text message from a number I don’t recognize is delivered to my phone whether I want it to be or not.”
“Don’t think for one minute that hasn’t been their plan all along – announce it at a high rate, with the intent of “backing off” to a lower rate…and then slowly increase that rate over the next few years once there’s a general acceptance of the practice “
“I am loathe to trust a company that changes the terms of my agreement mid-contract. I would like to learn how it is that they are allowed to do this, but if I would like to change the particulars of my contract mid agreement, it is not allowed.  I would like to think that if the terms are changed, shouldn’t the principal agreement holder be notified of the changes, otherwise it be nullified?”
“Pay twice for one service…..  I’ll charge a fee to them for writing a cheque to pay my bill”
“Clearly it is in the best interest of consumers for their elected representatives to voice their concerns on top of those of the consumers when Canadians are being gouged at almost every turn. Bell and Telus clearly to not have the best interests of their customers in mind, rather as always, they are motivated by greed and profit. “
“Kudo’s to the NDP on this one!!”
This is so typical Bell, Bait and Switch,  first bait the customers and nail the customers on the  extras next too.
Google slams Bell Canada: open Internet is “extraordinary”
Ars Technica – By Nate Anderson | Published: July 08, 2008 – 12:30PM CT The public comments on Bell Canada’s P2P throttling practices are in, and one thing is clear: a gulf the size of Nunavut separates the huge ISPs from web-based companies and consumer groups. Google goes further; not only should Bell stop picking and choosing which lawful apps to throttle, but the company needs to start upgrading its infrastructure in a serious way. Throttling merely “encourages carriers to build their business model around managing scarcity, rather than developing more abundant capacity.
Google slams Bell Canada for throttling Internet Canada.com TORONTO – Internet heavyweight Google Inc. has waded into a fight with Bell Canada, saying the telecommunications company should be “prohibited” from the practice of curtailing of peer-to-peer Internet use to manage limited capacity on its network.
Google joins in Bell Canada traffic throttling war p2pnet.net
CBC.ca – ITBusiness.ca – FierceTelecom – mediacaster
all 16 news articles »

Cellphone users to be charged for incoming text messages
CBC.ca –  Cellphone users with Bell and Telus are going to have to fork over a little more to receive incoming text messages, under new pricing plans slated to roll out in August.
Get ready to pay for incoming text messages Canada.com
Uproar over new Canadian texting fees United Press International
Mobile Magazine – Soonews.ca – QuicklyBored – The Province
all 40 news articles »  En Français »

There is a  public outrage on the part of Canadian consumers following the release of the local pricing plans. Apple the iPhone maker has watched nearly 50,000 of its loyal customers sign an anti-Rogers petition at ruinediphone.com, which has in turn sparked hundreds of potentially damaging reports on the matter by bloggers and members of the mainstream media.

Canada’s cellphone market is currently dominated by three key players – Bell (TSX:BCE), Telus and Rogers Communications Inc.(TSX:RCI.B).

The petition has attracted attention in Canada and abroad, but it won’t have any effect on Rogers unless consumers follow through with the old-fashioned but simple and reliable strategy for pulling down prices.

If you don’t like the price of an iPhone, don’t buy it. If Rogers finds it has priced itself out of the market, it won’t take a petition to ring in lower prices.

All that is just the beginning of the Customer reactions, war I had written about months ago too.

Prentice calls Bell, Telus to task for decision to charge clients without bundle The Canadian Press – Wed Jul 9, 4:05 PM

OTTAWA – Industry Minister Jim Prentice is taking Bell Mobility and Telus Mobility to task for their plans to charge some of their customers for each incoming text message and called both company CEOs to Ottawa to explain their “ill-thought out” decision.

and what about big bad Bell sympatico

  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/bell-bce-sympatico-iphone/

Internet oversight
Globe and Mail – 3 hours ago
Toronto — Re Google Raises Fuss Over Bell’s Speed Bumps (Report on Business, July 9): Bell Canada and other telecommunications companies have been slowing, shaping and restricting Internet traffic for some time.
Google slams “throttling” of internet traffic in Canada Digital Home
Google condemns Bell’s ‘throttling’ practice Toronto Star
Canada.com – Ars Technica – CBC.ca – BetaNews
all 51 news articles »

 

Canada’s phone companies and the federal government itself  have still even failed to understand how the consumers, markets are changing.. so both Bell and Telus get hit by a backlash over new texting prices.  It is not just  about price, it was about the restriction and limitation of the user experiences too. Canadian telecom giants are feeling the heat like never before by  an increasingly savvy and demanding customer against finely tuned telecom incumbents . There is   irony to the fact that as the phone companies roll out new services that allow people to communicate instantly in new ways, their customers are using the technology to express their criticism of how those services are offered and priced.  the government’s plan to keep the wireless industry also unregulated is real crap.  Neither of these rather mostly abusive parties  are about to listen to the Canadian Customers still, it will take more drastic responses..
 

Bell, BCE, Sympatico, iPhone

Bell bites back with poor-man’s iPhone
Globe and Mail – 3 Jul 2008
BCE Inc.’s lengthy struggle to privatize may have left management distracted and Bell Canada’s brand reliant on a couple of aging beavers, but the phone company is still managing to strike back at its more nimble rivals.
Bell to offer smartphone with unlimited data plan CBC.ca
Can You Avoid The iPhone Data Plans From Rogers? Yes, But It Will CTV.ca
E Canada Now – Marketnews.ca – The Gate – Canada NewsWire (press release)
all 16 news articles »

The stastics on my own sites do show that MY MANY POSTS ABOUT MY UNDENIABLE EXPERIENCE WITH BAD BELL SYMPATICO ARE STILL ON THE TOP 3 MOST POPULAR READINGS OF ALL OF MY VARIOUS TOPICS THAT I HAVE POSTED ON MANY SITES OF MINE.

I had already written months ago  even here that Bell was capping the Sympatico downloads EVEN cause it was making way for their iphone business and Bell will definitely abuse it’s phone customers the next same way it has undeniably now too  abused many of it’s ISP customers. Sad and unaccepatable.
 
 
    
Message from youth: Don’t charge us for incoming texts
Canoe.ca –  SUN MEDIA A decision by telecom giants Bell and Telus to charge customers for receiving text messages as well as sending them isn’t sitting well with youth who use the service more than any other group.
Bell/Telus Text Messaging Cash Grab Makes No Economic Sense Teleclick.ca
Text-fee plan flayed Winnipeg Sun
Prepaid Reviews – Canada.com – CBC.ca – Canoe.ca
all 109 news articles »
 

consumer groups and opposition politicians are alarmed, since cellphone users have no control over who messages them. The groups see the new charges as a cash-grab, and want the federal government to regulate how telecommunications firms set fees.

  
 see also

 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/CtznK287/bell.htm

  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/bell-bce-own-profitability/

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Too Many major ISP suppliers are unacceptably guilty of

Too Many major ISP suppliers are unacceptably guilty of initial and subsequent false misleading advertising practices, and an immoral  “Bait and switch” business   practice as well.
 
Here is the undeniable reality.. Many bad ISP corporations beforehand do not disclose the amount of capping that they do to their customers., or after wards, or lie as to much they supposedly cap. For example I have a Bell Sympatico connection or I can use a second party proxy connection, and next I get twice the download speeds with the proxy over the Bell’s capped services even  during the non peak hours as well, such as all day Saturday.. not just  evenings  4.0 pm to 2. am when Bell admits it caps their lines. Now that is a fact any potential bell customer should know now too.
 
“AP  Sun Jun 15, 9:45 AM ET  At one time, the word “unlimited” meant unlimited.
 
Sprint’s mobile broadband service is the latest to abandon the term and the principle in favor of a monthly cap designed to keep their heaviest users from overwhelming their network.
 
But Sprint isn’t alone: its two 3G competitors also cap usage, and two wireline broadband operators are testing explicit caps as well. In the earliest days of broadband, service was either heavily capped, with ridiculously low limits–I recall DSL plans that had 1 GB monthly downstream limits for business-grade offerings–or totally uncapped. 
 
 Now, the idea of capped service with metered rates, stern warnings, or cancellations above a monthly limit are fully in fashion. For the last few years, companies like Comcast and Verizon’s wired broadband division have warned users about excessive downloads, degraded their service, or canceled their accounts, often with little recourse, and sometimes denying it all the while. Enough states’ attorneys general and FCC staff and commissioners have been involved that what was implicit has become explicit, but with the related effect that caps have become much lower than what they were in the ad hoc days before these changes. Driving all this is not scarcity, because there’s plenty of headroom out there on the Internet, but two interrelated issues: service providers always dramatically oversell their service, and some users are actually abusers. ( But really how can one be an absuer when he pays for and uses what was advertised now?
 
 On the first issue, if an ISP has 500 people connected to a central office DSLAM (a DSL aggregator) with a total downstream bandwidth of 2 Gbps, there’s no universe in which a phone company makes available 2 Gbps to that location. Rather, they allot a fraction of that, which works when traffic is bursty, not continuous. Many people downloading or streaming a lot impact everyone in the same grouping. (I’ve seen this at home when I complained about my 3 Mbps DSL dropping to 500 Kbps at night. A Qwest technician explained I was lumped with heavy users, and with about 20 minutes of waiting on the phone, regrouped my line to another, less used pod of users, and my service has been fine since. The nice part is that was a logical change; no one had to walk over to a cage and move my wires around.)
 
The second issue has provoked a lot of debate. But without explicitly labeling the limits on a service, a subscriber can’t technically abuse it. If you know when you sign up for Comcast that they limit your use to 10 GB and provide tools to monitor as well as an understanding of what that bandwidth would allow you to “consume” each month, it’s a very different matter than “all you can eat. “
 
Verizon had long promised unlimited Broadband Access for their 3G EVDO mobile broadband service. But it was well documented that unlimited had fairly strict limits. After an investigation by the New York attorney general’s office, Verizon agreed to change its disclosures, pay some costs to the state, and refund money to some subscribers. The company now fully discloses its 5 GB per month limit for combined upstream and downstream data. Verizon charges you 49 cents per MB ($490 per GB) when you cross that limit, and the company says that they use email, SMS, and a live data usage display in their connection manager to keep you apprised. Note that a single high-definition movie download might consume nearly 5 GB.AT&T, likewise, has a 5 GB cap each month on LaptopConnect, its 3G cell data offering, with unspecified behavior when you top that amount–additional charges may apply, but clarity would be helpful. They note in their PDF-only terms and conditions: “The parties agree that AT&T has the right to impose additional charges if you use more than 5 B in a month. Prior to the imposition of any additional charges, AT&T shall provide you with notice and you shall have the right to terminate your service.”Sprint has joined this club with first the leaked news and then official confirmation that starting July 13, 2008, its 3G service would also have a 5 GB cap. A spokesperson told me that off-network roaming–ostensibly with Verizon or Alltel, the only other major providers of 3G in the US using the EVDO flavor–is capped at 300 MB per month. Now these are all 3G providers, who have limited spectrum over which they have to make sure all contending users in each cell get approximately the same kind of experience. They can’t afford one user sucking down all bandwidth. However, we’re seeing the same kinds of limits start to be tested for cable-based broadband.

Comcast is testing delaying traffic–slowing down packet transmission to throttle the bandwidth rate–in two Eastern cities they cover for the heaviest users of their service. This is an effective cap, rather than a cutoff. (Comcast has been delaying BitTorrent P2P traffic for all its users prior to this; this change affects all traffic, not just BitTorrent, and is being announced, instead of sub rosa.) In a town in Texas, Time Warner Cable is experimenting with offering different speed packages each of which is coupled with a monthly limit on usage. The lowest-priced package offers a ridiculous 768 Kbps downstream and 1 GB per month for $30 per month; the highest-priced is 15 Mbps downstream with a more reasonable 40 GB per month limit. Charges are $1 per GB above that. With cable companies traditionally and telephone companies newly offering television programming, premium channels, and on-demand video, the caps are another tool to prevent competition from over-the-Internet sources of things to watch. In a situation in which a few carriers control all the pieces, it’s unclear whether rate caps can stick. If both telcos and cable companies decide to impose such limits and restructure their networks, who do you turn to? People with broadband are unlikely to cancel it. In a monopoly or duopoly market, you can’t switch brands. There has to be a happy middle–a role that the FCC may help to negotiate. A 40 GB cap switched to 400 GB might serve precisely the right purpose without penalizing average users who have no other market choice. With Time Warner Cable charging a buck a gigabyte above their monthly limits in their test market, but with Amazon’s S3 service delivering it retail for as little as a tenth that, it’s not hard to see that carriers are looking to caps to solve network problems and make a little scratch on the side.”  http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20080615/tc_pcworld/146752

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, Corporations, governments who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

All good, decent people in Canada rather are clearly a threat

All good, decent people in Canada rather are clearly a threat to this Western Canadian Conservatives

Dion a threat to the West Calgary Herald,  Canada –  vain hope that they can turn those feelings into enough votes to dethrone Prime Minister Stephen Harper whenever he gets around to calling an election.
NDP prepares star candidate for Westmount
The Gazette (Montreal), Canada – 10 hours ago
Prime Minister Stephen Harper has until July 26 to set a date for the vote. It is widely expected to be held in September along with a second by-election in
 
All good, decent people in Canada rather are clearly a threat to the undeniable  too often self centered, greedy, immoral, abusive West meaning Alberta mostly..

I HAD  LIVED IN CALGARY FOR 15 YEARS AND WHEN I SAW FIRSTHAND WHAT ALBERTAN CONSERVATIVES WERE REALLY LIKE I RIGHTFULLY HAD TORN UP MY CONSERVATIVE SUPPORT CARD AND BECAME A LIBERAL RATHER.

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you
 
Is 51:23 .. your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

 

 

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/how-many-rich-people-in-calgary-edmonton-alberta/

Verbal abuses.. Much too common these days

 

Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.

(Prov 21:9 KJV)  It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.

Bullies, abusers, liars, slanderers tend to be clearly immoral persons who try to enslave others uancceptably even if they profess to be Christian or what ever,,

>>My ex-husband smokes pot and drinks a lot, and I am told, so does his girlfriend. He once told me that I am too righteous because I don’t drink or do drugs, and I attend church.

and that was a verbal abuse if I have ever seen one..

so do thank God daily that he has now removed your from this  abusive relationship..

and do ask Him, God  to take all the tears away and he will.

(Psa 4:8 KJV)  I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep: for thou, LORD, only makest me dwell in safety.

(Rev 21:4 KJV)  And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

and there still can be a good life after divorce with God’s help…

Truly any type of abuse is unacceptable and anywhere too

and exposing it loudly in public as well as calling the police is the best way to deal with it for everyone’s benefit, the abuser included.

God himself clearly does not accept verbal, physical, or human rights abuses

(Mat 18:6 KJV) But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

(Mat 18:7 KJV) Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

(Mat 18:8 KJV) Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

No we ALL cannot STOP, take the ostrich approach under the guise of love to the definite bad acts of others, we as Christians are still called to be fruit inspectors of those who profess to be Christians ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY RARELY QUOTE IT in actual context OR LIVE THE BIBLE THEY CLAIM THEY BELIEVE IN-

(Gen 31:42 KJV) Except the God of my father, the God of Abraham, and the fear of Isaac, had been with me, surely thou hadst sent me away now empty. God hath seen mine affliction and the labour of my hands, and rebuked thee yesternight.

(Lev 19:17 KJV) Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

(Neh 5:7 KJV) Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.

(Psa 119:21 KJV) Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.

(Prov 24:25 KJV) But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

(Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love.

(Eccl 7:5 KJV) It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.

(Mat 17:18 KJV) And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

(Mark 1:25 KJV) And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.

(Mark 4:39 KJV) And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.

(Mark 8:33 KJV) But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

(Heb 12:5 KJV) And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

“This is from the book by Patricia Evans http://andthenshecried.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/the-verbally-abusive-relationship-how-to-recognize-it-and-how-to-respond

Verbal abuse is a kind of battering which doesn’t leave evidence like physical abuse does. However, it can be just as painful, and recovery can take much longer. The victim of abuse lives in a gradually more confusing realm. In public she is with one man, in private he becomes another. Often, for the verbally abused woman (man), there is no witness to her reality and no one to understand her experiences. Friends and family continue to see her ex, the abuser, as a really good guy and, certainly, he agrees with them. The verbal abuser, while maintaining his charm with others, always takes his abuse behind closed doors. It is a means of holding power over his wife( husband) /partner.. Many women and some men leave a marriage and come back into the singles’ world with the diminished self-esteem that comes from a verbally abusive relationship. The fact that many of these women (men) have never even realized that they were being abused, makes it easy for them to enter another abusive relationship. A verbal abuser is an insecure person and immature person who is looking for power and control over another.In order to help you recognize abuse, remember that all forms of verbal abuse are methods of manipulating you for the purpose of establishing power over you. The following are some of the forms of verbal abuse the author helps you recognize.

  1. Withholding: a purposeful, silent treatment.
  2. Countering: a countering of your ideas, feelings, and perceptions, even going so far as to refute what he misconstrues you to have said.
  3. Discounting–a putdown of you or something you hold dear.
  4. Blocking and diverting–this is a sneaky, covert way of violating your dignity.
  5. Accusation and blame: generally involves lies about the partner’s intentions, attitudes, and motives. The author states that accusation and blame is present in all verbally abusive relationships.
  6. Judging and criticizing: lies about your personal qualities and performance.
  7. Trivializing and undermining: abusive behavior which makes light of your work, your efforts, your interests, or your concerns. The abuser attempts to dilute meaning and value in your life. Undermining might occur when your partner laughs at you, for example, when you burn yourself cooking. It is also jokes at your expense. Undermining is occurring when you feel a “so-called joke” is mean rather than funny.
  8. Name calling: no one has a right to call you degrading names. Name calling is verbal abuse.
  9. Ordering: Telling you to do something, rather than asking, or making decisions for you or for the two of you without your input.
  10. Forgetting and denial: the trickiest form of denial is forgetting. Become aware that forgetting is a form of denial that shifts all responsibility from the abuser to some “weakness of mind.”
  11. Abusive anger: this seems to be closely linked to the need to “blow up,” to dominate, to control, to go one up, and to put down. Any time you are snapped at or yelled at, you are being abused.
Threatening: Physical threats and sexual threats aside, verbal threats are an effort at manipulation. For example, a threat to leave, stay out all night, or take you home immediately is a manipulation for power. The threat of “pending disaster” is designed to shatter the partner’s serenity as well as her boundaries.

If you counter the abuser or attempt to explain yourself, you will probably be met with such statements as, “I don’t want to hear it, get out of my face” or “Woman you don’t have the brains“, “BYou shouldn’t have said that to me“.

If you are in a brand-new relationship and see warning signs of verbal abuse, the author suggests you might be wise to let the relationship go. It is not likely that a man (woman) who needs to dominate and control will change easily, if at all. It is also likely that when the newness of the relationship wears off, he will become more abusive. Verbal abuse can become physical in time and physical abuse is always preceded by verbal abuse, according to Evans.If you are in a long-term relationship, you can respond to the abuser as the book suggests and soon discover for yourself whether or not your mate is willing to change and stop his abusive behavior.

“If you have been verbally abused in your relationship, you may have discovered that explaining and trying to understand have not improved your relationship. Therefore, I recommend that you respond in a new way–a way that will make an emotional, psychological, and intellectual impact upon your mate.”

The abuser in your relationship may change when he finds that you do know when you are being abused, that you have set limits, that you mean what you say, and that you will not take behavior you don’t like.

If the man ( or sadly too often now a women) in your relationship remains abusive, it is not only not your fault,” it is  your responsibility to deal with it, make it public, call the police too.

Any person cannot still fight with you of you leave his or her presences, even forever.. and there is still a good life after a failed marriage now too. I practise what I preach and often now too.

The first spouse, love seems  is always the best one in our false pride.. and I know what that is like too.. WE SEEM ALL TO REPEAT OUR BAD TASTE, VALUES.. When they let a person out a prison they generally have a rule not to let them return to his old environment, past home, for five years.. otherwise they will be under the same old bad habits, dispositions too..

NOTE I lost once everything I had owned.. still next I replaced it all with the same things, even though I never used most of them, old habits and bad tastes DO die hard still too for almost all of us..

Now still reporting publically the abusers, and calling the POLICE TOO most often solves the abuse problem the best.. for if the evil persons do not feel real negative personal consequences, REAL negative public exposures, they really have no reasons to change their bad habits next and likely then never will.

I rightfully too tend to openly expose all abusers, all bad people, all bad churches, all bad politicians, all bad corporations that I come across, and  often and I  also do do call the police, regulating authorities  often and demand they all be fired,   be put in jail too.

I was also still surprised how popular this post now is too.

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/

US Judge Throws Users To The Wolves

To be fair the judge should first go after the major pornography watchers on the net, for what now the  Hollywood movie piracy is more of an immoral act over watching pornography? or will the judges do that next and get a list of the  porno users too? and what next? Home and more privacy invasions too!! Unbelieveable
….
Google forced to reveal users’ YouTube viewing habits
Times Online – 1 hour ago
Google has been ordered to hand over details of YouTube users’ viewing habits by a judge presiding over a copyright infringement case against the site.
Google Ordered to Hand Over All YouTube User Data FOXNews
Q&A: Divulging YouTube log BBC News
Washington PostIndependentguardian.co.ukPC Magazine
all 105 news articles » En Français »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/03/AR2008070300747.html

Now why is the prosperity Gospel so popular in America,

A gospel that  is even clearly contradictory to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the apostles as well? while 2/3 of the world lives below the poverty line, and world wide many Christians do daily even suffer religious persecutions? so Why?
 
(1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
 
(1 Cor 16:22 KJV)  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
 
(Mat 8:21 KJV)  And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 22  But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
 
(Mat 6:33 KJV)  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
 
(Mat 16:21 KJV)  From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
 
(Mat 17:12 KJV)  But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
 
(Mark 8:31 KJV)  And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
 
(Luke 17:25 KJV)  But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
 
(Luke 24:46 KJV)  And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
 
(Acts 2:27 KJV)  Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
 
(Acts 3:18 KJV)  But those things, which God before had showed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
 
(Acts 5:41 KJV)  And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.
 
(Acts 9:16 KJV)  For I will show him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake
 
(Rom 8:17 KJV)  And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
 
(1 Cor 3:15 KJV)  If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 
(1 Cor 4:12 KJV)  And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
 
(1 Cor 6:7 KJV)  Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
 
(1 Cor 9:12 KJV)  If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
 
(1 Cor 10:13 KJV)  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
 
(1 Cor 12:26 KJV)  And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.
 
(2 Cor 1:6 KJV)  And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.
 
(Gal 5:11 KJV)  And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.
 
(Gal 6:12 KJV)  As many as desire to make a fair show in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.
 
(Phil 1:29 KJV)  For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
 
(Phil 4:12 KJV)  I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
 
(1 Th 3:4 KJV)  For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
 
(2 Th 1:5 KJV)  Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
 
(1 Tim 4:10 KJV)  For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
 
(2 Tim 1:12 KJV)  For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
 
(2 Tim 2:9 KJV)  Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.
 
(2 Tim 2:12 KJV)  If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
 
(2 Tim 3:12 KJV)  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
 
(Heb 2:9 KJV)  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
 
(Heb 11:25 KJV)  Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
 
(Heb 13:3 KJV)  Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.
 
(James 5:10 KJV)  Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
 
(1 Pet 2:19 KJV)  For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
 
(1 Pet 2:20 KJV)  For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
 
(1 Pet 3:14 KJV)  But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
 
(1 Pet 3:17 KJV)  For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
 
(1 Pet 4:15 KJV)  But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.
 
(1 Pet 4:16 KJV)  Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
 
(1 Pet 4:19 KJV)  Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
 
(Rev 2:10 KJV)  Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
 
Also
 
(Mat 19:14 KJV) Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
 
(Mat 23:13 KJV)  But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
 
(Mark 7  KJV)  10  For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11  But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
 

The Assemblies of God  Pentecostal supporters, members are noted for their opposition to the Florida Lakeland revival, and to the Latter day movement.. but why?
 
and like many other Pentecostals, Alliance, Baptist, Evangelcial Churches they falsey do not include helping poor people in their own churches as an essential Christian  doctrine now too? why?
 
(Rom 15:26 KJV)  For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.
 
(2 Cor 9:9 KJV)  (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
 
(Gal 2:10 KJV)  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.
 
(James 2:5 KJV)  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
 
(James 2:6 KJV)  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
 

Humanitarian Aid  – the Persecuted Church
Barnabas Fund
Advocates for the Persecuted
 

 

 

 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,
 
Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.