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Now the way I see it still….

Now the way I see it still….

Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

My own personal undeniable experiences the last 50 years are the Jews, the Messianic Jews are still one the biggest liars and threats to real Christianity and nothing here has real changed since the time of Jesus Christ ..

There are good and bad Jews. Alfred Einstein was one of the good ones, and he did not support the Zionist movement or the Jews going back to Israel. Vladimir Lenin was a bad Jew, he was of Jewish Ancestry as were approximately 95% of the Communists in both the Bolshevik and Menshevik Parties.

Psa 118:22-24 “The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. 23This is the LORD’s doing; it is marvellous in our eyes. 24This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.”

Matt 21:42-44 “Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone [Jesus Christ] which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you [Nation of Israel], and given to a nation [New Testament Church] bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.”

Acts 4:10-12 “Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

Galatians 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

And as for the Jews now

Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Mark 11:21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

Many people falsely quote no inapplicable old Testament verses and try to make them applicable today.. in particular to Israel. but Israel is no longer a Chosen people.. Our main attention is not on pray all Jews Go back to Israel, or rebuilding the city of Jerusalem or it’s obsolete temple but rather still praying all Jews become saved.. and our main attention should ne now on helping all Christians firstly, even those in Palestine, Lebanon, Pakistan, India, Syria Egypt etc., Salvation by the lordship of Jesus Christ now is needed for all unsaved persons, Jews, gentiles. It is not enough to merely accept that Jesus Christ is God as the devil believes that now also so what? he is still going to hell. Now the Messianic Jews believes in Jesus Christ the messiah, but so what they all will mostly God to hell cause they are unwilling to become real full Christians, unwilling to give up the Torah,Talmud as well, to make Jesus Christ the sole Lord in their life, and not any Laws rather too.. .. so they too now are still counted rightfully as lost, unsaved person..

The false Judaic, Hebrew, demonic emphasis today is getting to be really, really farcical, a big comedian tragedy. Some of the errors for that matter in anyone, who classify themselves Messianic Jews today are:

They call for Christians to recognize extra-biblical Jewish books, which are supposed to give fuller understanding of the Greek New Testament. In fact some go so far as to proclaim the Hebrew Scriptures are the authentic scriptures, not the Greek text of the KJV Bible. They really are trying to take you to hell, they really are demonic

The New Testament was given in its original, inspired from the Hand of God, in GREEK, not Hebrew. Most of the extra-biblical Hebrew “scriptures” that the Messianic Jews are seeking to foist onto the Christian Church are ancient writings, often with occult and mystical sources, traditional material which are NOT Scripture at all. They are extra-biblical sources of knowledge.

The Bible was written in 3 languages:

1. Hebrew was the Language of the Old Testament.

2. Aramaic was the language of the far east until the time of Alexander the Great.

3. Greek was the New Testament language and the International language at the time of Christ.

But yet the Messianic Jews, Zionist and Hebrew Roots Movement tend to make claims falsely that the original Gospels were written in Hebrew, or possibly Aramaic, and that the Greek New Testament is a mere translation and in some cases a mis-translation of the Hebrew or Aramaic originals. They have even gone so far (some of them) to conclude that Paul’s writings where he addressed the heresy they teach, were re-written by Rome and are not authentic. Of course they cannot prove this, but it is enough to cast doubt in their adherents and justify themselves in their error. These lying Jews they are demonic when they are trying to take you away from Jesus Christ, Apostle Paul, and the New Testament..

Jesus was not another man child born into this world who became God next. Jesus was God himself come to earth in the flesh. Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos.

It next also amazed me how many writers, preachers claimed to be experts on the Baptism of the Holy spirit, the anointing, when they had even admitted that they had never experienced it themselves.. ridiculous, and so how can you be an expert on something you have never experienced too?

Many people it seems still can be easily deceived by the devil that they are following and doing GOD’S will when they clearly now are not

Real Christians who know and follow the New Testament do know that there are no Jews any longer in Heaven but only Christians..

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(Acts 4:12 KJV) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

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(Rom 10:13 KJV) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

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There is no valid, real spiritual life without hearing words from the mouth of Jesus who said he was God and “my sheep hear my voice too”. Many professing Christians are still not real Christians now, these days too, because

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Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says nor have they been taught by the Holy Spirit firstly, not even most preachers. (Jer 29:9 KJV) For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.

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(Heb 13:8 KJV) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. is alive today.. and he can be alive today in you and me too. And John 4:4 states, “Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”

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(Mat 7:7 KJV) Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

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To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. do we see yours easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?

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(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

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The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One,

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“I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed (enduo) with power (dunamis) from on high.” (Luke 24:49)

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“Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water (hudati), but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit (en pneumati hagio)…. But you will receive power (dunamis) when the Holy Spirit comes on (epiechomai) you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” (Acts 1:4, 5, 8; see 11:15-16)

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(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

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The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One, Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos.

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Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”

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Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”

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Acts 11:16, “And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

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The new Jerusalem is solely for the bride of Christ, the Christian church as well and not for any unsaved Jews or unsaved gentiles even..

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(Rev 21:2 KJV) And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

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(Rev 21:9 KJV) And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

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John 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth

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Now the old, earthly Zion or the earthly Jerusalem temple, was overthrown by the Romans in 70 A.D. So the new Zion is the Heavenly kingdom of God that Jesus is yet bringing forth. Clearly all of the Old Testament references to Zion are now meant to be referred to the new Heavenly Jerusalem, the new Zion. For example-

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Ps 9.11 :’Sing praises to the Lord, who dwells in Zion.’

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Under the new covenant, God — the Spirit of God — dwells in the mind of the believer, making the believer’s body, ‘the temple of the Holy Spirit’ [1 Cor 6.19]. So then, God would not go back to the old covenant in order to take up residence in a stone temple..

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Ps. 14.7 ‘O that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion, when the Lord restores his captive people, Jacob will rejoice, Israel will be glad.’

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Jesus with his Free Salvation had rose out of Jerusalem, for both the the Jews and Gentiles — who can now be set free from the bondage to the law an to the consequences of sin. . ‘Whom the son sets free is free in deed'[John 8.36].

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The Hebrew Old testament scriptures state that the Jews were God’s holy people (Deuteronomy 7:6), yet the Greek New Testament shows that now instead God’s holy people are Christians:

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13 Jesus Christ…15 He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, 16 because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.” (1 Peter 1:13, 15-16)

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9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, (1 Peter 2:9)

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19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? (1 Corinthians 6:19)

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16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. (2 Corinthians 6:16)

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Notice that the Apostle Paul supports the idea that the temple of God now has to do with Christians, not the Jewish people (except those who are Christians and have the Holy Spirit). His wording “know ye not” indicates that this is something that they already should have known.

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While He was on the earth, Jesus taught He was greater than the physical, hieron, Jewish temple:

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6 Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple. (Matthew 12:6)

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Now there is still no verse at all in the whole New Testament by Jesus that is referring to a Jewish temple being rebuilt related to the Tribulation (nor byPaul or Daniel for that matter). it should be added that even among earlier professors of Christ there has long been the view that another Temple would NOT be rebuilt.

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THE NATION OF ISRAEL, THE JEWS – HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF The Jerusalem temple has been already destroyed twice, all if their books, records too now..

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Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

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Sadly, most Jews EVEN today are JESUS Christ rejecting followers of the OBSOLETE Judaism. Just as most of the Jews rejected their King Jesus, their Messiah, 2,000 years ago, so do almost all of the Christ-rejecting Jews today do the same.; The Bible plainly teaches in Romans 10:11-13 that God is rich unto all who call upon the name of Jesus to be forgiven of sins and saved. Eternal life is available to whosoever will call (appeal) unto the name of the Lord. Likewise, Hell fire and damnation is promised to all who refuse to obey the Gospel of Jesus Christ (2nd Thessalonians 1:8-9).

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There is only one plan of salvation given to man by God, and it is the same for Gentile and Jew alike (Acts 4:10-12)

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Luke 21:24, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” Many people today, including Christians, go around quoting Zechariah 2:8 about Israel being the apple of God’s eye; but they deliberately overlook Luke 21:24 which teaches that the nation of Israel will suffer persecution, killings and defeat in war until the Lord Jesus Christ returns. God has turned to the Gentiles to preach the Gospel to the world, to provoke the Jews to jealousy (Romans 11:11). .God never said that He would bless a rebellious people. God blessed Abraham because he obeyed the voice of the most high God. And God has blessed the nations of the world, including Israel itself, through Abraham’s decedents. But God has not blessed a wicked and rebellious people. God blessed Abraham and has blessed the nations of the world, just as He promised; but God never promised to bless Israelites today who reject and disobey Him. God today does not love the Jews more than the Gentiles, nor does it mean that God respects Jews over Gentiles. Romans 2:11 plainly teaches that God is no respecter of persons. So what does Zechariah 2:8 mean then? It means that God chose to bless the nations of the world through Abraham’s seed. But God never promised to defend Israel, as clearly evidenced by Luke 21:24

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Please notice that God refers to Gentiles as His people in Zechariah 2:10-11, “Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. And MANY NATIONS SHALL BE JOINED to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto thee.”

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Galatians 3:7-9,14,16,18 and 29 wonderfully explain what these Scriptures mean, “Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham … That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith … Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ … For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise … And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Clearly we learn that all born-again Christians are also God’s people, and not just physical Jews.;

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All Jews who truly are born-again are also God’s people according to Galatians 3:7-29.; There is no salvation promise to the Jew by birth today, except Hell if they don’t get saved by faith in their true Messiah, Jesus Christ. Sadly, the followers of Judaism today deny Jesus as the Christ, and claim falsely that their Messiah is yet to come.;the devil himself will come to the Jews next instead.;

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The apostle Paul under the lading of God’s Holy Spirit wrote in the New Testament, “Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall” (1 Corinthians 10:12). While EVEN Aaron may have been a “good man,” he nevertheless sinned—hurt Israel badly. King Solomon wrote in Ecclesiastes 9:18, “One sinner destroys much good!” Aaron also now discovered that eternal truth the hard way. As God told Moses in Exodus 32:34, “When the day comes for punishment, I will punish the people for their sin.” And God did exactly that—even because a good man did a bad thing.

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“If you wish to go to Paradise, Heaven, New Jerusalem, Heavenly Zion, you must submit yourself to the authority of God, the King of Kings, Jesus Christ and do things his way, even down to the smallest matters of If you cannot submit yourself to the King in the small matter such as they are, why should he expect you to recognize your presence in any other matters? Would he fling open the gates of Paradise and fill his kingdom with rebels? Of Course not.

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The name of the Lord, under the old covenant, was not,fully revealed under the new covenant, the name of ‘Jesus Christ’ surfaces as the name of the Lord. It has become possible to tell the name of the Lord Jesus.. the name above all names Ephesians 1: 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

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‘Jesus’ or in Hebrew ‘Yah shua’ means ‘Yaweh saves.’ Knowing now this name suffices for all just as seeing Jesus sufficed for seeing the Father [Jn 14.8].

Ps 110.1,2 ‘The LORD says to my Lord: sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet. The LORD will stretch forth your strong scepter from Zion…’

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Hebrews 1: 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.13 But to which of the angels said he at any times, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

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Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

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by thenonconformer on June 18, 2013 • Permalink

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Posted by thenonconformer on June 18, 2013

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Are you waiting for Jesus to come?

Thessalonians 1:10:10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

1 Thessalonians 5:9,23:9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ… 23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you…And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come (Matthew 24:4,14).

7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write…10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth (Revelation 3:7,10).

Do you also know firsthand of the Bible says that Jesus going to return and secretly “rapture” away the true Christian Church prior to the tribulation? Many evangelical people seem to think so. Does the Bible teach that at least a portion of the Christian Church will be protected from the great tribulation? Yes, the Bible teaches that a portion of the Church will be protected from that tribulation, but where? Does your church even know what that full gospel is?

It needs to be emphasized that ONLY the Philadelphia portion of the Church of God, other Christians will be affected by the Great Tribulation and the related persecutions (Revelation 12:17).

When does Jesus teach that He will return? Notice that it is right AFTER the tribulation:

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other (Matthew 24:29-31).

When do Christians meet Christ in the air? Well according to what Jesus taught, it is after the tribulation at the last trump. Paul taught:

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed– in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (1 Corinthians 15:51-52).

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17).

Also notice that Paul says nothing about the Church fleeing or being protected from the great tribulation above. He simply states that at the sound of a trumpet Jesus will return, raise the dead, and the Christians that remain will be caught up in the clouds to meet Jesus. It is important to understand what Paul did or did not say. it should be clear that the scriptures involving the Church and the tribulation were interpreted to mean that the Church would flee somewhere on the earth.

The term “rapture” is used nowhere in the Bible. It is a term that has been invented by men and applied by them to what they term “the first phase” of the Second Coming. The Bible itself, however, nowhere says that Christ’s coming will occur in phases.

Another important set of verses to look at in this context is Matthew 24:29–31. In verse 29 we learn that the tribulation and the heavenly signs occur prior to the return of Jesus Christ.

Verse 30 emphasizes that His return, far from being secret, will be seen by people everywhere and will provoke mourning and grief from the unrepentant. Then verse 31 states: “And he will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” Let us understand the real significance of this verse.

From 1 Thessalonians 4 we learned that when the last trumpet blows, the saints, both living and dead will rise from the earth to meet Jesus Christ in the clouds. Matthew 24:31 talks of the angels gathering the elect from the four winds of heaven. The Bible uses the same term, heaven, to describe three different locations. From which heaven are the saints to be gathered?

The first heaven is the heaven of the earth’s atmosphere, where the birds fly and where the clouds are. The second use of the word heaven is for what we call outer space. The stars, the sun and the moon are located in this second heaven. The Bible also refers to the realm of God’s throne as heaven, characterizing it in 2 Corinthians 12:2 as “the third heaven.”

The wind blows in the first heaven, the heaven where the clouds are, not in outer space or the environs of the throne of God. The angels would have no need to gather Christians from around the throne of God. Rather, Matthew 24:31 describes the resurrection of the saints, which clearly occurs at the time of Christ’s return in glory. When the saints rise, they go straight up. Since we live on a round earth that means that people in Australia who go “up” head in a different direction from those who rise “up” in Europe or in North America. What is described is the very practical way in which God is going to ensure that all of the resurrected saints meet Jesus Christ. He simply sends angels through the sky to gather His elect from all the points of the compass where they are rising to assemble them in the clouds over Jerusalem to greet their returning Savior. How simple!…

But notice the events of the tribulation are not only directed against the Church. In Jeremiah 30:7 we read of a time called “Jacob’s trouble” described as the worst ever. Daniel 12:1 also describes a “time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation.” This is an almost identical expression to that used by Jesus in Matthew 24:21. There surely cannot be several times, each being the worst ever. These verses are all describing the same event!

This time is Satan’s wrath against the modern day descendants of Israel as well as against spiritual Israel, the Church. This is made plain in Revelation 12 where we read of the Church being described by the metaphor of a woman. It was the Old Testament Church that brought forth the Messiah (v. 5). After He was caught up to Heaven to be with the Father, the Church (now in its New Testament phase) fled from persecution into the wilderness.

In verse 13 we find that after Satan is cast back down to the earth, a yet future event, he launches all-out persecution upon the Church. At this time, we are told, the Church will be taken to a place in the wilderness to be supernaturally nourished and protected during the final three-and-a-half year period preceding Christ’s return. Note, however, that all Christians are not taken to this place of safety. Rather, we learn in verse 17 that Satan then goes to make war with the “remnant.” These are clearly true Christians because they are described as those who “keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Why are some not protected from Satan’s wrath?

The answer is found in a careful study of Revelation 3. Here, in messages to the last two of the seven churches, those at Philadelphia and Laodicia, we find a contrast between two different groups of God’s people at the end time. The church at Philadelphia is used to characterize those who are zealously going through the open door to preach the gospel that Christ has set before them. The church at Laodicia is characterized as being lukewarm, lacking in zeal. They are complacent and self-centered. It is upon this group, characteristic of the final phase of the Church of God, that God will allow Satan to pour his wrath. This is a last resort on God’s part, as these people have not been stirred to repent of their lack of zeal by any prior event.

When God prepares to pour out His wrath, the events of the Day of the Lord, He first sets apart those who have come to repentance during the preceding time of Tribulation (Revelation 7:1–3). This is a yet future event designed to protect those who have surrendered to God in the midst of persecution and terrible pressure to conform to Satan’s system. There is a clear distinction between the Tribulation (Satan’s wrath) and the Day of the Lord, which is the time of God’s judgment on those who give their allegiance to the coming Beast system.

A. secret rapture? The Bible teaches no such thing! It does teach, however, that Jesus Christ is going to come back in power and glory to rule this world and to bring salvation to His saints.

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

The above shows that it is those who are in the Lord will meet Him in the air (and this is actually after the great tribulation).

the Bible shows that the event in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 occurs AFTER the tribulation:

Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory (Matthew 24:29-30).

But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be (Matthew 24:19-21).

But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter. For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation which God created until this time, nor ever shall be (Mark 13:17-19).

But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people (Luke 21:23).

1 Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.

The above passage simply states that Jesus has a place for His followers, that He will return, and that His followers will be with Him. This has no discussion of when.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

The above does not mention any rapture and is not in conflict with occurring at the Second Coming.

1 Corinthians 1:7-8: 7 so that you come short in no gift, eagerly waiting for the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ, 8 who will also confirm you to the end, that you may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming, because it clearly is.

51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed– 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming, because it clearly is.

1 Corinthians 16:22:22 If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be accursed. O Lord, come!

Again, above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming.

Philippians 3:20-21:20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming, because it clearly is.

Philippians 4:4-5:5 Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming.

Colossians 3:4:4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming, because it clearly is.

1 Thessalonians 2:19:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Is it not even you in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at His coming?

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming, because it clearly is.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18:13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

The above is the “classic rapture” passage. And while it is comforting that Jesus will return, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with b.eing associated with the Second Coming.

25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,

Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,

And shall intend to change times and law.

Then the saints shall be given into his hand

For a time and times and half a time. (Daniel 7:25)

The above clearly shows that during the time of the Great Tribulation, the SAINTS are given into the hand of the Beast power. They are not spared from his wrath. The Bible essentially calls this the “patience of the saints” in Revelation 14:12. Furthermore, while the Philadelphians are promised protection from this hour, the other Christians in Revelation 2 & 3 do not get this offer of protection, instead they face the time of Great Tribulation:

Thyatira…I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts (Revelation 2:18,23).

Sardis…Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you (Revelation 3:1,3).

Laodiceans… As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent (Revelation 3:14,19).

The above are all part of “the Church” yet they are subject to suffering, chastisement, and death during the time of the Great Tribulation. Being protected from the “wrath to come” is NOT referring to a pre-tribulation rapture, which Jesus never taught, but instead the wrath to come that Jesus warned the Pharisees, etc. about, which is the time the Bible calls the “second death” in Revelation 20:6; 20:14; 21:8.

2 Thessalonians 2:1. 1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Notice that above passage states that the man of sin is to be revealed BEFORE Jesus comes and that Paul is warning Christians not to be deceived by others who teach otherwise. Hence this clearly disproves the “pre-tribulation rapture” position.

1 Timothy 6:14:14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing,

The above does not mention any rapture and is not in conflict with occurring at the Second Coming.

2 Timothy 4:1,8: 1 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom… 8 Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.

Not only does the above does not mention any rapture (nor is it in conflict with occurring at the Second Coming) it specifically refers to Christ judging at the appearance of His kingdom.

Titus 2:13:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming, because it clearly is.

Hebrews 9:28, 27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

Not only does the above does not mention any rapture (nor is it in conflict with occurring at the Second Coming) it specifically refers to Christ judging at the appearance of His kingdom. This is consistent with 2 Timothy 4:1,8.

James 5:7-9:7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand. 9 Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold, the Judge is standing at the door!

Again, another judgment passage, which not only does not mention any rapture is not it in conflict with occurring at the Second Coming. And can only occur then.

1 Peter 1:7,13:7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ… 13 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

Not only does the above does not mention any rapture (nor is it in conflict with occurring at the Second Coming) it specifically refers to faith being tested, which it clearly would be for those who made it through the Great Tribulation (whether specifically protected by God or not).

1 Peter 5:4:4 and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away.

But the Bible clearly shows that Christians will reign with Christ for 1,000 years, hence they do not need a crown BEFORE the Great Tribulation (Revelation 20:4), but at the beginning of the millennium. Thus, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming, because it clearly is.

1 John 2:28-3:2: 28 And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming. 29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him. 3:1 Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. 2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming, because it clearly is.

Jude 1:21:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming.

Revelation 2:25:25 But hold fast what you have till I come.

Again, the above does not prove a pre-tribulation rapture is not in conflict with being associated with the Second Coming.

Revelation 3:10 10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 Behold, I am coming quickly!

What the above passage shows is that Jesus will keep the Philadelphians (see verse 7 of Revelation 3) from the “hour of trial” and that Jesus is coming quickly. If the rapture came prior to the “hour of trial” Jesus would more likely have listed that He was first coming and then He would keep them from the tribulation, but He listed the opposite order.

Instead of actually studying their Bibles to seek the truth, it appears that most who have accepted a “pre-tribulation rapture” simply hope certain verses prove it and somehow differ from those that they feel are instead discussing Christ’s Second Coming. The truth is that Jesus is coming again, but not as the pre-tribulation rapturists falsely claim.

Additionally it may come as surprise to people who have actually studied the Book of Revelation, but pre-tribulation “rapture” proponents tend to falsely claim that the church is not mentioned in Revelation from chapter 4 through chapter 18 and that this somehow proves that the “pre-tribulation rapture” is the only viable explanation

The Book of Revelation most certainly does mention saints (which are those who make up the true Church, see 1 Corinthians 1:2) in these chapters.

Notice:

18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come,

And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,

And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,

And those who fear Your name, small and great,

And should destroy those who destroy the earth (Rev 11:18).

The above passage clearly shows that the nations will be angry when Christ returns and that they and the dead should be judged. It also shows that this is when the saints receive their reward.

Further notice:

14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent…17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ (Revelation 12:14,17).

7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints (Revelation 13:7-10).

12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus (Revelation 14:11-12).

6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus (Rev 17:6).

Notice that the above verses show that the dragon (identified as Satan in Revelation 20:2), causes the saints to suffer and some to be killed. However, since these verses clearly are referring to true Christians, it should be clear to any with “eyes to see” that Christians (who are those who compose the Church) will be around throughout the entire 3 ½ years of the tribulation (shown as the time, times, and half a time in Revelation).

Sadly, many millions seemingly have been deceived by this false “pre-tribulation rapture” hypothesis. Unless they repent and understand God’s plan, they themselves will be “left behind”.

S.o they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?” And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived…” (Luke 21:7-8).

Let’s look at what else Jesus says:

“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Then let those in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled (Luke 21:20-24).

So we see a couple of changed. One is that Jerusalem will be surrounded with armies. And that Jesus tells those in Judea to flee into the mountains and that this will be difficult for pregnant women/nursing mothers, just like He did in Matthew’s account. And that this is the time of great distress. Thus this appears to be the same basic discourse that Matthew’s account refers to.

Notice when Jesus says He will return in the sky:

“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of heaven will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near” (Luke 21:25-28).

Jesus is teaching that He is coming sometime after the distress of nations. Thus, Jesus is NOT returning before the tribulation even begins.

3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John, and Andrew asked Him privately, 4 Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign when all these things will be fulfilled?” 5 And Jesus, answering them, began to say: “Take heed that no one deceives you…And the gospel must first be preached to all the nations (Mark 13:3-10).

Jesus continued, then stated:

“So when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not” (let the reader understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down into the house, nor enter to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his garment. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter (Mark 13:14-18).

Once again notice that Jesus taught people would need to flee at this time.

And also notice that this is just before the tribulation really gets going:

For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of creation which God created until this time, nor ever shall be. And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days. Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘Look, He is there!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. But take heed; see, I have told you all things beforehand (Mark 13:3-23).

Now when does Jesus say He will return, coming in the clouds? After the tribulation:

“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in heaven will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven (Mark 13:24-27).

So the gospel accounts are clear. There will be fleeing prior to the tribulation after the abomination of desolation is set up, followed by the tribulation, followed by Jesus Christ coming in the clouds.

No where does the Bible give an indication that this will be a secret.

Actually all the gospel accounts say not to be deceived and that Jesus’ coming will not be a secret. Notice the following statements show that Jesus return will not be done in secret:

Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near” (Luke 21:27-28).

Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be…Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory (Matt 24:26-27,30).

Not being in “the inner rooms” means that Jesus’ coming will not be a secret. Also, since the world will see Jesus return and everyone with sight can see lightening that covers the sky from the east to the west, all will see Jesus return.

Of course, the scriptures clearly state that Jesus will return with the blast of a great trumpet (1 Thessalonians 4:16, Matthew 24:31, 1 Corinthians 15:51–52; Revelation 8:13). Trumpet blasts are not s.ecret.

There simply is no secret rapture.

If enough people who claimed to believe the Bible would really read it and rely on it, that would greatly reduce the impact of those spreading unbiblical rapture theories.

But does not the Bible teach that the Church will be protected from the Great Tribulation?

Well, partially. As mentioned previously, the Book of Revelation teaches that the Philadelphia portion of the Church of God will be protected from that hour of trial (Revelation 3:10). This is not the entire Church, but only part of it.

What the Bible does teach is that while protection will be provided to a portion of the church, the rest will not be protected and that Satan will be against them.

This is spelled out in Revelation 12. Verse 14 states:

But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.

The above shows that the church (symbolized by a woman) has to “fly into the wilderness to her place”. Being in heaven with Jesus is not the same as being in any wilderness. Also notice that the church “is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.” Hence, this is how Jesus is intending to keep His Philadelphia Church “from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world” (3:10).

Also notice that the church will have some problems getting there at first, but that the church will make it:

So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth (Revelation 12:15-16).

Notice that since a flood of water is used to try to destroy the church, but is helped by the earth, that the church is NOT in heaven, but on the earth.

Satan, however, is less than pleased:

And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ (Revelation 12:17).

Contrary to the views of some, these “rest of her offspring” are alive and converted at the same time the church flees. Thus, not all the church is protected from the tribulation. A careful reading of Revelation 2 & 3 shows that only the Philadelphia portion of the Church is promised that protection. Revelation 3 specifically indicates that the Sardis Church and Laodicean Church will not be protected unless they have repented by the end. Notice:

And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, ‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: “I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before God. Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you (Revelation 3:1-3).

“And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’–and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked– I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent (Revelation 3:14-19).

And it is apparently those who make up other portions of the churches in Revelation 3 (and probably a very few from Revelation 2) that will have to go through the tribulation.

Notice that the unprotected saints are given into the hands of the coming fourth kingdom of the Book of Daniel, often referred to as the Beast power:

He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time (Daniel 7:25).

The Bible does teach that Jesus will come again in the clouds. But not in a pre-tribulation rapture.

Sadly, several of the Protestant concepts of the rapture will greatly mislead those who hold it as events are not going to happen like most of them tend to believe.

Jesus taught in the gospels as well as the Book of Revelation that part of His Church was going to flee just prior to the great tribulation. He, however, promised to protect the Philadelphia portion of His Church from that hour of trial, in a place in the wilderness.

Jesus clearly taught that He would return after the tribulation and that His return would not be a secret.

Hence, all who teach a secret pre-tribulation rapture are not relying on the Bible for doctrine, but instead are relying on their hope of a relatively recent “tradition of men”. Do you rely on the Bible or Tradition?

Please be like the Bereans of old who “searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so” (Acts 17:11).

Jesus will protect the Philadelphia portion of His Church in the wilderness on the earth. That is what the Bible plainly teaches. Do you wish to be part of it?” http://www.cogwriter.com/rapture.htm ..

and while you are waiting for Jesus to come are you even serving Him?

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Do you really Know the truth?

“It has not been at all unusual throughout the ministry of Brother Thomas for religious people of every hue and stripe to attempt to “straighten him out.” Sometimes they feel he is in outright error — in their assessment — and at other times that there is not a sufficient emphasis upon their “pet doctrine” or practice. Often following ministry Brother Thomas has had to endure the well-meaning zeal of someone who would corner him to explain what he ought to say and do and emphasize. Not a few letters over the years have arrived, often with enclosed literature, sent not with a free spirit to bless and encourage, but with a subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, spirit to correct, to contend for their version of Christianity. There is such a diversity of opinion that prevails under the umbrella of what passes for Christianity that it can only be characterized as “Babylon.” “Babylon” means confusion. Its meaning is rooted in the confusion of language that God brought about at the Tower of Babel (Gen. 11) to thwart men’s efforts to unite in rebellion against Him. “ The religious confusion we see today is the result of men’s own, uncalled by God, efforts to build and preserve their concepts of the Kingdom of God. Men contend, not for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 3), but for that of the Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, Holiness, Zionists, Satan, etc. Is God the author of confusion (I Cor. 14:33)?

What is it that causes men to hold and contend for such obviously conflicting religious views? We are shaped more by our environment than we realize. If we are exposed to a particular belief long enough we tend to believe it. To us it becomes “the law and the gospel.” In addition it becomes a yard stick by which we measure and evaluate others. Unless God intervenes it never occurs to us to question whether our ideas are really so or not. To us, we’re right and others who differ are wrong. Religious ideas not of God are undoubtedly the worst prison in our world (Is. 42:22). Few escape from this prison. It offers men the delusion that they are thereby acceptable to God when in fact they are being bound into bundles and made ready for the fire (Matt. 13:30). “

A Professing Christian brother in my own neighborhood, with a nice shining rich car, had a bumper sticker on his car which read” don’t be mistaken by my car my treasure is in heaven”. As he was standing there by the car, and as I was passing by, I said hello and we started to talk even about his local Church that he went too.. He wanted to know what the Bile said on tithing? I told him also I disagreed with his church’s false positions on enforced tithing and I merely then asked him if he had read all of the Bible verses in the Bible on tithing and he admitted that he did not. I asked him if he and his church gave 1/7 of his tithes to the poor persons as required by the law of tithing too? he was not even aware of this Bible requirement. I asked him if was he aware that all Pastors who got the financial benefit of the tithe as an income they were not allowed to own property, such as a house according to the tithing law of the Bible.. and he said that truth was not even in the Bible. Then I merely told him that there was not much point in my discussing the Bible with him cause he clearly did not know it or read it and he was merely defending what his church had told him which was not the truth… He was embarrassed. I told him I would come back and give him a Biblical computer print out about tithing, whether it was a biblical requirement today. We next left on friendly terms..

To me he was still only a “religious” person, only “pretending to be a Christian”, merely making a false a show of his religion..

Now sadly today many a church attendee’s theology is still based on cultural or human traditions and not on God or the Bible in fact. Why? Most professing Christians they still really do not know the whole Bible, they really do not read it daily, fully for themselves as well. They wrongfully expect their even too often wrong, false teachers, pastors to do that for them. Sadly today many a church teaching is still based on cultural or human traditions and really not on God or the Bible in fact.

My own real, personal experiences also the last few years in churches, with many pastors still seems to also indicate that they always firstly do want something from me, like my money for a start, but they are not willing to have genuine, real, reciprocal, mutual Christian fellowship.. most of the pastors even are merely hirelings and not true servants of God still too, I really do not rightfully trust too many of them even to do the right thing. I put my trust solely in God. And what about you do you daily read the Bible, pray, have fellowship with God too? we all need to do that.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

1 Corinthians 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

2 Corinthians 13:4 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Satan has a great host of wicked spirits with even the last 2000 years of experience in promoting the wide variety of religion operating under the banner of “Christianity” while causing men to sidestep the new birth., the Lordship of Christ and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit too

Demons are real beings with individual personalities and abilities. Some spirits have become adept at being Catholic. Mormon, Seventh day Adventists, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Christian Missionary Alliance, Holiness, etc. — that is those religious groups that they do they promote those forms of partial truths, a religion apart from the true Gospel and power of Christ.

Some spirits seek out people who are impressed by dignified formal religion with a lot of ritual and ceremony. Others seek those who are intellectual and puffed up with their supposed knowledge while despising the ignorance of others. Other false spirits seek out those who crave feelings and experiences.

I Tim. 4:1-2 says, “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron.”

“ The foundation of spiritual knowledge is expressed in Prov. 1:7. “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”

Man, by nature, does not fear God (Rom. 3:18). He is proud, arrogant, rebellious, self-reliant, presumptious and a long list of similar attributes. Some brands of religion teach their followers a kind of fear of God but it is a fear “taught by the precept of men” (Is. 29:13). This kind of “fear” only produces religious professors who draw nigh to God with their lips but whose hearts are far from Him.

The only fear that is of any value whatsoever is that taught by God himself. Job reached a place where he said to God, “I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.” Job 42:5-6.

Job was allowed by God to go through a place of deep and heart-rending trial. The Lord waited while Job and his friends tried in vain to use their religious knowledge to explain what had happened to him. Then, at the proper time, the Lord intervened and Job acquired a different kind of knowledge — a knowledge that only comes when God steps in and reveals Himself in some measure to a human heart.

This kind of revelation isn’t necessarily a phenomenal experience. Most often it is simply an inward awareness that there is a God who is great and over all and that we are small, weak, ignorant and needy before Him.

Such knowledge comes only from God Himself and creates a fear — a deep respect for this great Being that works to restrain our sinful presumption. It is not salvation but it is the beginning of true spiritual knowledge that starts God’s elect on the road to salvation.

Whenever one of God’s elect encounters Him in any measure, there is a corresponding degree of awareness of what we as human beings are in contrast. We are naturally prone to measuring ourselves by other human beings. We are so corrupt that we are even secretly glad at the weakness of others because it feeds the pride that causes us to feel that we are better than they are.

But when we see ourselves in the light of God’s greatness, holiness, wisdom, power, etc., our perception changes dramatically. Job said, “I abhor myself and repent in dust and ashes.” Job 42:6. Isaiah said, “… Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.” Is. 6:5. “

Isaiah 60:2 says, “For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people …”

Rom. 3:11 says, “There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.”

God is not the author of confusion. Make no mistake, however: there is an author. Satan. The diversity and confusion we observe in religion did not just happen.

In II Cor. 4:4, Paul says that “… the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

The “god of this world” is, of course, Satan. When Satan fell, he led one third of the angels with him (Rev. 12:3-4). Jude 6 refers to them as being “reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.” This expresses their hopeless condition before God. Their “chains” in no way prevent them from blinding, deceiving, corrupting, and leading lost mankind down the road to destruction.

Especially in our day, Satan and his hosts are loose as never before and men are defenseless without truth. As the coming of the Lord draws near we can expect the hold of darkness to grow greater and stronger upon the world as a whole. Rev. 12:12. Matt. 24:37-39. Gen. 6:5.

When Satan realized the absolute victory that Christ won at the cross, his only recourse was to do all in his power to oppose and hinder the outworking of that victory. The only arena in which he is free to operate is this earth realm. Those who have died in Christ are forever beyond his reach! Praise the Lord!

Over the centuries, outright persecution of believers has not been unusual. Fox’s Book of Martyrs chronicles some of Satan’s efforts in this regard. Of course it also chronicles God’s great faithfulness to those who have been called to glory by that route!

However, by far Satan’s most effective tactic has been to join and then to corrupt the church. He has come to man masquerading as Christ, presenting himself as a spiritual friend. Paul said, “… Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” II Cor. 11:14. The next verse refers to “his ministers.” Satan has ministers who undoubtedly appear to be ministers of Christ.

II Cor. 11:4 speaks of “another Jesus,” “another spirit,” and “another gospel.” This is a pretty good description of what is symbolically pictured in Rev. 12:15 as a flood coming from the serpent’s mouth.

Even as Christ is purifying the Church by the “washing of water by the word,” so is Satan corrupting and deceiving mankind with a flood of doctrines and philosophies that come from his mouth. Much of this flood is religious in nature and is designed to subvert the influence of truth.

The reason Satan is so successful is that his ideas appeal to the fallen nature of man. This is pictured in Rev. 12:16 where it says that “… the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.” Satan’s ideas are easily “drunk in” by the natural or “earth” man.

The truth of God confronts the desperate condition of man without compromise. It offers nothing but the absolute sentence of death to the old nature while it gives newness of life and everlasting hope to the repentant sinner. Rom. 6:3-4.

Satan, on the other hand, accommodates human nature, allowing it to live and flourish. It is the same as if a supposed doctor were to treat a terrible disease by feeding and encouraging the disease while covering up some of the more obvious symptoms. Jer. 6:13-14.

Mankind is “infected” with sin, a self-willed, self-pleasing rebellion against divine authority. This rebellion is especially manifest when that authority is expressed through men.

What religion does is to clean up the outward man and make him appear to be righteous while leaving the inward man unchanged and, in time, unchangeable. Matt. 23:2-39. There comes a time when God ceases to deal with those who receive not “the love of the truth.” The result is not simply delusion but strong delusion. II Thess. 2:10-12.

Strong delusion is being absolutely sure you are right, but you are wrong. “

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AND WHEN YOU DO NOT DO WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO

Most people still tend to give advice,
orders to others they do not even keep themselves it seems.

A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his teachings they will not contradict the Bible.. and it is not rather based solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too. But of course if any others because they really still do not know God and/or because they are doing “your own thing”, following their own will, and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they thus are not open to the Holy Spirit himself to talk with them thus they really should find out why too! otherwise they will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive themselves instead.. So how are they dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally rightfully their Lord, Savior, or are they just playing a religious game? so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is also still reflective of the true spiritual nature of all of the posters as well and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still seeking for it or have wrongfully denied it..

AND WHEN YOU DO NOT DO WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO THESE SAME RATHER LITTLE BAD CHILDREN INSULT YOU, SLANDER YOU, DIVORCE YOU, OSTRACIZE YOU, BAD MOUTH YOU.

The desire to judge, stereotype, psycho-analyze, compartmentalize, and marginalize others is sinfully. human Most people sadly do not want to hear about what the Bible says, or what you say the Bibles says, they have their own small world of denials, needs, wants and desires, they do not want to hear any negativity, as they have enough negative aspects in their own life they are well aware off and if you try to interrupt them still with the Holy Ghost’s truth, they will even next with the helpful suggestion of the devil and to his delight forbid you to speak, and as they did to Jesus they will divert to false character assasinations, of you call you a demon even.

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Matthew 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

Matthew 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

Colossians 2”8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ

Matthew 12: 22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

So Stop being a control freak trying to control me included telling us all what I should and should not do.. I already know Many are liars and slanderers and a demonic control freak.. what more do I need..

Many professing Christian persons see themselves as teachers, facilitators, coordinators, leaders, when in fact they are still just dictators, bullies, some even immoral aggressive jungle fighters, control freaks who need to repent.. Not surprisingly many prideful people try to take the place of God in my life too, AND these imposters claim even that they have been chosen, designated by God to command over me, THAT I am required into forced submission to their whims, desires , commands. But funny God now himself has not revealed those facts as well to me BUT only to them. I put my trust in God and not in man.. Me I am still always rightfully actively resistant to all of the abusers, bullies, liars, even on the net, in the Church, GOVERNMENTS, CORPORATIONS, POLICE and their oppressions. etc., still too, for all it takes for evil to prosper is for good people to do nothing about it. So should we all! Human reason logic, is corrupt and limited.. learning how to now hear God talking to you firstly is what everyone should learn.. I have absolutely no doubt the devil talks to me, but so do God, the Holy sprit and Jesus separately as well too.. for decades now too. Follow the Anointing Luke 4:14 “And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.” and here we have the answer that has been in plain sight for all to see all along and in quite concrete terms –Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

2 Tim 2:4 “No one serving as a soldier gets entangled in civilian affairs, but rather tries to please his commanding officer.” but Jesus my commanding officer tells me to get involved as a light to the world..

Matthew 5

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 6

22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Matthew 10

27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

Sadly too many clearly Ignorant people even love to quote the Bible, but they still really are immature, inexperienced Christians, rather Ostriches still..

”You know GOD will get rid of this government when HE so chooses, but do I care??? NO!” cause you do not love your fellow man, you are so heavenly minded

and not earthly good.. just another Bible thumping Pharisee..You seem to also be a coward who is afraid of getting his hands dirty.. Cause I have been pastoring for 30 years, I know many Politicians by name and they do know of me and God had himself directly called me to this Ministry to ask them all to repent as well.. so I do not believe anything you preach here thus.. it is just mere lip services to God.. I am a Believer, Baptized with the Holy Spirit, I pray in tongues, I have the joy of the Lord, full of his holy Spirit but I love all people and I am rightfully involved even in dirty politics, trying to clean it us so should we all if we call ourselves real Christians..

Matthew 16:25 “For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.”

1 John 2:15 “Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. ”

that does not mean we are not love the people of the world.. Dictatorships anywhere are demonicyou are such a Bible pervert clearly a false accuser as well.. get some Holy Spirit induced love now.. 1Pe 1:5 who by God’s power are protected through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Now you are even cursed if you are under any human covering but God.. There are any number of untold horrors that lurk for those who step outside God’s covering.. It is Jesus Christ that protects us. We are protected by the Holy Spirit through faith. There is no mention anywhere in scripture that submission to authority is required for spiritual protection. Est 9:25 But when Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, should return upon his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.

I know that this forced submission emphasis, demands are a false attempts by these overly perverse, ambitious, crooked persons, bad pastors and bad religious persons now included too, for these persons and mere persons who do want now by such means to attempt to self prosper, to grow richer, to advance themselves over others still have have no good concerns for me. They are slave drivers. Slavery was abolished a long time ago too.

Let me be very clear about that I am a slave to no man but to Jesus Christ himself, alone. I serve no man, especially any of the clearly foolish, perverted ones, and I take orders from no man, I do not have to do what they desire or try to command me to do at any time too. No matter if they still do wrongfully think otherwise too. I am still only God’s slave and not any man’s

(Isa 55:1 KJV) Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. 2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. 3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. 4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people. 5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee. 6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. 12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands. 13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.

Jesus is the only commander I respect, know, follow now too.. Now I also do know some persons still do claim to be modern day prophets. God’s chosen leaders, called by God, some even think they are supposedly God appointed rulers like king David was, even some confused members of my own family now too.. well they are always mistaken here too.

(James 4:7 KJV) Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing. is also what Jesus warned us all about

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One thing for sure I have observed that where there are sheep now there are also many wolves, for where there are real Christians there are also the the pretenders amongst them now, today as well. The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing do now show up for all kind of reasons even to seduce the sheep. They masquerade as pastors,, assistant pastors, elders, youth ministers, Bible college students now as well.

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But a close examination daily reveals these pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing really have not changed, they are self centered, unloving, tend to lack compassion and consideration for any others.

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The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing even the Judas Iscariot is noted in history as the one who betrayed Him (Jesus).

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(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

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(Acts 20:30 KJV) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

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(Acts 20:31 KJV) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

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(Acts 20:32 KJV) And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

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(Acts 20:33 KJV) I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.

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(Acts 20:34 KJV) Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.

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(Acts 20:35 KJV) I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

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if people do not agree with me they do even personally bash me.. me a pastor over 30 years even..For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from following rightfuly the Holy spirit, Charismatics, the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last 50 years.

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The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” .. clearly these immoral Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth, most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result of that the bully, he or she, tries falsely to build their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against his proclaimed enemies, which too often also is most people , for he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt, and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others. I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also in religious fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

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The pretender, imposter, wolf in sheep clothing even the Judas Iscariot is noted in history as the one who betrayed Him (Jesus).

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(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

(Acts 20:30 KJV) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

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(Acts 20:31 KJV) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

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(Acts 20:32 KJV) And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

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(Acts 20:33 KJV) I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.

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(Acts 20:34 KJV) Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.

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For certainty also because of the demonic opposition the devil will try to discourage you from following rightfuly the Holy spirit, Charismatics, the Bible. I know I have experienced this myself the last 50 years

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how do i know you is a false teacher James 1:19-25 So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.

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Eph 4:26 KJV) Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

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(Eph 4:29 KJV) Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

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(Eph 4:30 KJV) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

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(Eph 4:31 KJV) Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

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(Eph 4:32 KJV) And be ye kind one to another,

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(1 John 4:20 KJV) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

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Sadly criticism of religion, religious practice in our world is often based on personal views, cultural preferences and hidden agendas, etc.. many people who are so called experts on the Bible, religion.. religious practices they have never experienced firsthand the Holy Spirit so they are often absurd in their comments now still too. As we all can see now here too.. they are even extremists.. unkind and unloving, slanderous

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Jesus warned His disciples not to be like the Gentiles who lord over one another but he would be first should be servant of all. Brethren, if you have those in leadership that require submission to them using the reasoning that they have spiritual authority over you. Flee them! They are walking under a different spirit and not the Spirit of The Lord. For all true spiritual authority is exercised against the powers of the darkness of this world and not over mankind. A leader leads through example and does not require obedience to them but rather to the Holy Spirit. If they do not respect your submission to the Holy Spirit and seek to lord over you because they have some position in the church, turn away from. As Jesus said in Revelations, “Come out of her My people!” This is a false r system and those entrapped in this system will die.

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Let someone else boast about you and not yourself as you are falsely and wrongfully speaking thrash about me even. Now humble yourself, repent and go into the corner and pray, Ask God for forgiveness..

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Some people like to give it to others but next wrongfully cry, wrongfully do complain when they get it back.. Often I have noted, experienced on the web even that even the professing Christians themselves now not just the preacher supposedly are abusive, do try to dominate, do disrespect others, and falsely censure others, lie about and slander them as well. It is always still a personal choice that has nothing to do with their persons personal political or religious beliefs, experiences now too. The also seem to like to do all the talking and do not like any others to use their right of free speech Too many wolves in sheep clothing in the churches and on the net today We live in an epidemic of adultery fornication divorce and abortion in the church. – the reason we live in such an epidemic in the church is that Christians of every stripe. Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Pentecostals, and Charismatic, have no foundation of the Holy Spirit in their life. They have come to believe that if they mumble a few words about accepting Christ in their heart, that it is now all good, that they have passed from death unto life, and so they do not have to worry anymore about such mundane things as their having to obey the Words and Commandments of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Nothing could be father from the truth, and no matter where when or what you may have mumbled at some point of your life – their sins still brings forth eternal death in your soul. (Mat 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15

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Many really do not know Jesus personally all you know is some intellectual form of Jesus as you are clearly following a false Jesus as I can see by your bad acts , lies here.. Most Christians still do not know God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and the Bible too.. less than 5 percent of Christians read their Bible 5 minutes a day, and many they talk about things they really do not know, have not experienced, and the Holy Ghost especially.. undeniably too but they love to judge the others. Jesus himself hath said without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!!

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I admit there are much too many crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. but there seems much too many critics on the net.. who clearly are violating God’s instruction to try to talk to a brother humbly, personally about their sins, sins.. before shouting it from the housetops.. wrongfully mostly this is not been even done as we can all see on the net daily too. You are guilty of this clearly

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Jesus said by their fruits you tell what they are like.. which include their love, joy, peace, gentleness, meekness, patience’s, faith.. All here is mostly mere words

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(Rom 8:7 KJV) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

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(1 Cor 3:1 KJV) And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

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(1 Cor 3:3 KJV) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

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(1 Cor 3:4 KJV) For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

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If you are a Control freak you are not only still an unrealistic, immature, immoral person but you may have a serious personality disorder. You are trying to do God’s work here on your own.You likley are a menace, plus a real danger to yourself and to others, for you are an abuser, a human rights violator too. I can readily recognize bad control freaks on the net cause they want to give me advice how to write my post, what to write, in fact they want to rather write it for me.. rather fools is what they really are.. I freely can speak for myself, write for myself now too. You readily find these freaks also in churches, homes, etc., demonic enslavers is what they rather are too now. Not much point in being nice to them for often they are too dumb to understand who they really are too often too… and they rarely change. Having clearly now an exaggerated emphasis of your own self importance, being tottally in control is part of a cluster of behaviors that can be labeled as compulsive and generally characterized by perfectionism, orderliness, workaholic tendencies, an inability to make commitments or to trust others and a real cover-up for your fear of having your own flaws exposed. You are exposed now still too.. All these type of Persons who believe they can protect themselves by staying in control of every aspect of their lives, or of others, including their relationships are idiots, fools, grossly in error, in need of professional help, good pastoral counseling. I rightfully believe in the right of free speech, mine, yours, everyone else’s and not solely yours. Mostly all of you have had to contend with control freaks and they are found everywhere, These are those people who insist on having their way in all interactions with you. They wish to set the agenda and decide what it is you will do and when you will do it. You know who they are – they have a driving need to run the show and call the shots. Lurking within the fabric of the conversation is the clear threat that if you do not accede to their needs and demands, they will be unhappy.. and they will delete your post…While in reality God has made us all equal, and GAVE US ALL MOUTHS WE CAN SPEAK WITH, EARS TO LISTEN, it seems some people, in churches, on the net, elsewhere, they still wrongfully do think they are better than others, or want to dominate others, do try to give orders to others, do try to make rules for others that they too often themselves do not follow too, they are in fact still bullies.. and now why is that? and who do they think they are now that they are so special? Mere fools. They mostly have a hidden agenda, they are falsely seeking fame, power, control, a position of prestige, for they are immoral slave drivers trying to walk on the back of others.I have already mentioned it to you rightfully and often too before that I often get letters from some persons telling me what I can and cannot write on their sites, rather them wanting to write all of my posts too it seems. Many disturbed persons are now disturbed by the contents of my posts, so these ostriches try to find a false excuse not to deal with it, and try to instead falsely delete it. The control freaks emotional stakes includes their own identity and sense of well-being. Being in control gives them the temporary illusion and sense of calmness, a false feeling of superiority. and what fools they are when in reality they are so far from it now too. Control freaks or Bullies, abusers, wrongfully do cause others stress so they can maintain a false sense of order. These people themselves firstly are are still riddled mostly with anxiety, fear, insecurity, and anger. They’re very critical of themselves their lover and their friends, but underneath all that still too that supposedly perfect outfit and great body is a mountain of real unhappiness, unresolved guilt, disturbed person and they need professional help. Help them to get it. .inform their superiors. .Certainly, it’s natural to want to be in control of your life. But when you have to be in control of the people around you as well, well you have gone crazy, become a fool, a demonic controlled person who can’t rest until you get your way and you are headed down a very bumpy ride, it is easier to try to control yourself, and impossible to control all the others.(1 Cor 9:27 KJV) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks, persons, civil and public servants, politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass overIs 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to the Lord, and He will have love, pity, {and} mercy for him, and to our God, for He will multiply to him His abundant pardon. 8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

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Is 56:10 watchmen are blind, they are all without knowledge; they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; dreaming, lying down, they love to slumber.The need to control is almost always fueled by anxiety – though control freaks seldom recognize their fears. At work, they may worry about failure. In relationships, they may worry about not having their needs met. To keep this anxiety from overwhelming them, they try to control the people or things around them. They have a hard time with negotiation and compromise and they can’t stand imperfection. Needless to say, they are difficult to live with, work with and/or socialize with.

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“The believer is admonished by scripture to beware false prophets, perhaps appearing as born again ‘angels of light,’ teaching demonic views, theories intended to hinder the work of the gospel of submission to Jesus Christ alone [2 Cor 11.13]. Peter also warns that unspiritual people can falsely interpret the word of God. [2 Pet 1.20] Therefore, it is important that the believer, with the aid of the Spirit, examine the basis for various postings, comments that are popular these days, rightly and diligently dividing scripture [2Tim 2.15] Because there now are too many false professing Christians many of those who adhere to Unbiblical acts We are called to be true brethren and those who seek to exalt themselves will be also humbled by The Lord Himself. Do not argue prolongly with them….just make your point . You are not obligated before God even to stay in that place. But before you leave ask them to repent.. then God can deal with them for not repenting. Bad pastors that I have too often encountered now main objective is to control, rule over even silence the flock through fear and intimidation. In this despotic, institutionalized church system where disloyalty to or disagreement with the pastor or leaders is viewed as the same as disobeying God. Questioning the pastor on doctrinal statements becomes equal to questioning God. After all, the Pastor is the authority, and authority is always right. These pastors even try to commit their objectors to mental institutions. Sadly in real life both God, Good and bad preachers coexist but presently the bad preachers seem to outnumber the good ones 2:1 God’s ideal of a real Church now would be where everybody was just one big happy family of brothers and sisters behaving in love , decency, honesty too… but even many homes, families do not have this and why? The devil, sin and self centeredness, false pride run the homes and many churches, church pastors now too. Prideful, ambitious, control freak, pompous Satan and his earthly followers do hate the way God has redeemed us from the curse of the Law (Gal. 3:13; 5:18 ) and hate us being freed, free in Jesus Christ, our blood-bought freedom too. Satan is really delighted now to see all the enslavements, abuse , chicanery and robbery going on in his rather den of thieves masquerading as a true church or a house of God! When you’re about to be thrown out onto the street for lack of rent money, you just try to get one of those tithe-collecting tycoons to share with you the way the first century Christians did with those in need. Yeah, right, he’ll “PRAY” for you, that is, if you can get past his entourage of ushers. Matthew 7:15, 16 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits…

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But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22

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Abusing others is a common reaction of the carnal flesh and is brought on by many different reasons such as 1: unfulfilled lusts or 2: a spoiled child syndrome who tries to get their own way by whatever method it can 3: sibling rivalry 4: people who have no or little moral values, respect of others 5: one’s parental influence and upbringing..6: demon possessed persons, etc.

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(Mat 18:8 KJV) Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

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(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

(2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

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(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

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(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

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(Heb 12:5 KJV) And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

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Mat 5:22 KJV) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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James 4:1 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? :2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. 3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. 4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with

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God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. 5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? 6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. 9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

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The sad reality is abusers rarely change unless they are made personally to face some severe negative consequences, and the older they are the more severe it seems it has to be. So first you merely ask the guilty, bad persons personally to repent twice, the first time without a witness, the second time with witnesses THAT you have asked them to repent.. and proof, substantiation is NOT required..

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Someone says “I’d like to hear a short response from you please” and who in the hell you are to say what I can and cannot write, that I have to obey you now.. More Jewish world domination crap! Not surprisingly many prideful people try to take the place of God in my life too, AND these imposters claim even that they have been chosen, designated by God to command over me, THAT I am required into forced submission to their whims, desires , commands. But funny God now himself has not revealed those facts as well to me BUT only to them. I put my trust in God and not in man.. I know that these demon inspired persons will next face negative consequences cause so I am in the right asking them next to repent of these their wrong doings undeniably too

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When the bad preachers as well they cannot stay with the facts truths presented they rather falsely do have to go crazy on you personally instead They tend to imply the others the non alcoholics, are unspiritual, crazy cause they rather are so sensitive as to what you really are still firstly by their false diversionary personal attacks, approach? When you criticize or disagree openly some of these very bad evil persons one tends to get a false denial, a remark in response like you are crazy, you need professional help. They still really cannot face the reality there are things in their life that need serious, drastic changes. These people in denial are the ones who often need professional help for their own short comings, sickness. Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about their own unacceptable acts. These People in the state of false denials, clearly also who lie often, they do now also tend to have severe personal, mental disorders next even cause one tends to eventually believe next ones own lies as being the truth, and they can no no longer differentiate their own lies from reality, the truth. By their false denials Who is fooling whom? You cannot fool all the people all the time and now matter how smart you are there is still someone more wiser who can see the truth still too.. these bad, ignorant clearly unloving, Holy Spirit ignorant too persons they really should not even be on the net preaching to others till they get matured, wiser. Their Narcissistic, selfish, self centered Mental Disorders are too evident now even in these persons who falsely to dwell in self-absorption, fantasy, illusion, where she or he has exaggerated claims to talents, importance, or specialness, manifesting evidence of a need for constant admiration from others, a lack of empathy for all others, persistent in this too, have rigid personality traits and coping styles, clearly inflexible, do show a hypersensitivity to any criticism , defeat or negative realities thus they rather are pathological in denial by the their falsity, contrived replacement of the truths which they still must face eventually . These SEVERE PERSONALITY disorders are generally personally ongoing too even leading to more impaired social and/or occupational functioning and can make it difficult to pinpoint a clear dividing line between their pathology and their so called normality. Most of these people with their personality disorders may not perceive that there is anything wrong with their behavior and thus they are not motivated to change it. It is important to note that these personality disorders are considered to have their onset in late adolescence or early adulthood and they alone are responsible for it too. It is sad that there are so many childish, unloving, dogmatic, slanderous person, arrogant, even the pretend Christians who do falsely believe they are better than other persons now cause they have hold of one truth. Now if you do not agree with them, dare to oppose them in anyway they will go crazy on you, resort to a personal attack on you, calling you slanderous names, insulting you, falsely even trying to attack you as being immoral, demonic, an antichrist or what ever as they are in false denial to the real truth and why? their pride will not let them admit now that they have been deceivers and have been deceived.. Again false Denial, it is very very common when confronted with the truth the denier they often respond with a similar personal counter attack remark as ”you are crazy”. “I reject your reality… and substitute my own.” Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about themselves still though. Sadly it is a negative natural human tendency to devolve into denial.” It’s not just a moral compass that’s lacking, but the ability to honest, or to stand apart. Denial often comes out of a false pride, a fear of being openly exposed as being wrong. Denial is a false convenient escape, excuse for inaction for persons now facing a situation that requires a decision or action that conflicts with his or her established past policy. Denial too often can be further disastrous upon themselves and others.. for denial is not seeing data at all or seeing it and coming to an erroneous conclusion within oneself. One’s false denial is often based on a false assumption of one’s past great success and often precedes their own severe personal failure next due to a personal disconnect with real life.

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2 Cor 13:5 “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test? 6 And I trust that you will discover that we have not failed the test.” Many are still liars and their bad works show it .. God does not hear the prayers of liars, abusers, unrepentant religious persons .. it is hypocrisy still on their part.

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You should read what Jesus thinks about the messianic Jews as well I have also clearly said over and over that in love most Jews go to hell and all the Messianic ones included..Less any one gets lost, there are Good Jews, Good Arabs, good Americans, good Canadians and bad ones too. But is seems both Jews and Arabs are equally guilty of hate, unforgiveness, revenge, theft, murder, an eye for an eye approach so we can really not support either side as being mainly in the right It should be evident to any Bible reader that everything the Jews did was not God sanctioned even as chosen ones not even the Wars between the Jews and/or the Babylonians, Romans: Furthermore it should be evident to many people that too many even Jewish persons still do cut and paste, chose Bible verse they like and cut out , they falsely do reject the ones they do not like, misunderstand and/or try to rewrite the Bible to suit their own liking, they re-interpret Bible verses for their own purposes, they now are false revisionists. Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me“ Exodus 20:5

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GOD NOT ONLY KICKED THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL IN 70 AD.. BUT BECAUSE OF JESUS CHRIST HE CHANGED THE WORLD’S CALENDAR, PROCLAIMING HIS NEW ERA AND TODAY IS 2012 AD, AFTER THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST

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Lasting peace unity for all Jews can only occur by all accepting our God Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior, and to Love God, love others, be not drunk with wine, be filled with the Holy Spirit, do not lie or steal.. or slander, abuse others..

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement/166907416793938

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Now you can preach the letter of the laws or the spirit of the law.. it is always your choice.. if you preach the letter of the laws you may know the Bible, but clearly you still do not know the author, the Holy Spirit.

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AND THAT IS THE ROOT ISSUE, REAL PROBLEM THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE PERSONALLY DEALT WITH.. ONE’S SINFUL CARNAL FLESH NOT SUBJECT TO THE HOLY SPIRIT YET. THAT IS STILL SIN TOO. AND IS PREACHING AGAINST THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WORKS, EXISTANCE..

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PREACHING THE OBSERVANCE OF LAWS YOU CANNOT EVEN STILL KEEP IS ABSURD, REALLY!

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PREACH THE HOLY SPIRIT ‘S HELP TO KEEP THOSE LAW RATHER BUT THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE WHEN YOU CLEARLY STILL, FALSELY DO NOT KNOW HIM. THIS APPROACH IN PREACHING THE LETTER OF THE LAW IS A FALSE ATTEMPT TO PREACH SALVATION BY KEEPING THE LAWS, OR BY ONE’S WORKS AND NOT RATHER SALVATION BY BEING FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

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Acts 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

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Acts 13:9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,

52 And the disciples were filled with joy, and with the Holy Ghost.

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Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

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Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

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Mark 12 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

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John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

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Follow the Holy Spirit but to do that you have to accept Jesus Christ as lord and be Baptized next with the Holy Spirit https://www.facebook.com/His.Christian.Ministryhttp://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/

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Matthew 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

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Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

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Matthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.

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Luke 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth go’od fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Luke 6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

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Also teach yourself first as we all do need it.. remove the beams from your own eyes first

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/

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Why God will not hear all confessions of Him and his word

Deuteronomy 7: 12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers: 13 And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee. 14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle. 15 And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee. 16 And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that will be a snare unto thee. 17 If thou shalt say in thine heart, These nations are more than I; how can I dispossess them? 18 Thou shalt not be afraid of them: but shalt well remember what the LORD thy God did unto Pharaoh, and unto all Egypt; 19 The great temptations which thine eyes saw, and the signs, and the wonders, and the mighty hand, and the stretched out arm, whereby the LORD thy God brought thee out: so shall the LORD thy God do unto all the people of whom thou art afraid. 20 Moreover the LORD thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are left, and hide themselves from thee, be destroyed. 21 Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible.2 2 And the LORD thy God will put out those nations before thee by little and little: thou mayest not consume them at once, lest the beasts of the field increase upon thee. 23 But the LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed.24 And he shall deliver their kings into thine hand, and thou shalt destroy their name from under heaven: there shall no man be able to stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them.2 5 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God. 26 Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

Psalms 81: 11 But my people would not hearken to my voice; and Israel would none of me. 12 So I gave them up unto their own hearts’ lust: and they walked in their own counsels. 13 Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways! 14 I should soon have subdued their enemies, and turned my hand against their adversaries. 15 The haters of the LORD should have submitted themselves unto him: but their time should have endured for ever. 16 He should have fed them also with the finest of the wheat: and with honey out of the rock should I have satisfied thee.

Hosea 6: 1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth. 4 O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness is as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away.5 Therefore have I hewed them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth: and thy judgments are as the light that goeth forth.6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.7 But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me.8 Gilead is a city of them that work iniquity, and is polluted with blood.9 And as troops of robbers wait for a man, so the company of priests murder in the way by consent: for they commit lewdness.10 I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the whoredom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled.11 Also, O Judah, he hath set an harvest for thee, when I returned the captivity of my people.

This reference rather makes clear why God will not hear all confessions of him and his word

King James 2000 Bible And you shall serve the LORD your God, and he shall bless your bread, and your water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.

God`s grace through Jesus Christ alone is sufficient for all that you encounter. Yes you can always Tap into His grace for help, wisdom. But don`t try to do all in your ability, but in God`s ability. His grace will help you get through any and everything in life. Wait on the Lord first. Do only what he tells you next. For when you are weak, He is strong. Stay in faith.

It is still only GOD, WHO GIVES us any VICTORY !

Confession of God’s personal word to us applies only to Christians in right standing with God , as God is not obligated to hear the prayers of the righteous or unsaved sinners. Also you can only speak by faith that God has specifically told you.. You cannot just claim all or any verse in the Bible for yourself.

Ask God to confirm this to you.

Romans 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

The Bible also tell us why God will not answer all of our prayers..

Jeremiah 5:7 How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots’ houses.

Jeremiah 7:9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

Jeremiah 23:14 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

Jeremiah 29:23 Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.

In reality our enemies are subdued little and little; thus we are kept on our guard, and in continual dependence on God. Obstacles, Corruptions are driven out of the hearts of God’s people, not all at once, but by little and little.

Judges 7: 1 Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley.2 And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against me, saying, Mine own hand hath saved me.3 Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead. And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand.4 And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go.5 So he brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink.6 And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water.7 And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place.8 So the people took victuals in their hand, and their trumpets: and he sent all the rest of Israel every man unto his tent, and retained those three hundred men: and the host of Midian was beneath him in the valley. .

If you a Servant of the Lord Jesus Christ and obey the the voice of the Holy Spirit and if you “Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” James 4:7

“If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them … you shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely. I will give you peace in the land, and you shall lie down, and none will make you afraid; I will rid the land of evil beasts, and the sword will not go through your land. You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight; your enemies shall fall by the sword before you.” Leviticus 26:3

“For the Lord your God walks in the midst of your camp, to deliver you and give your enemies over to you; therefore your camp shall be holy, that He may see no unclean thing among you, and turn away from you.” Deuteronomy 23:14

Unconfessed sins will cause you to be defeated though “Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” Luke 10:19

“And He called the twelve to Him, and began to send them out two by two, and gave them power over unclean spirits … and they cast out many demons, and anointed with oil many who were sick, and healed them.” Mark 6: 7.13

“And when He had called His twelve disciples to Him, He gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease.” Matthew 10:1

“But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.” Matthew 10:6

“No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and every tongue which rises against you in judgment you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is from me,” says the Lord. Isaiah 54:17

“Through You we will push down our enemies; through Your name we will trample those who rise up against us. For I will not trust in my bow, nor shall my sword save me. But You have saved us from our enemies, and have put to shame those who hated us. In God we boast all day long, and praise Your name forever.” Psalm 44:5

“For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is loyal to Him.” 2 Chronicles 16:9

“… but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits.” Daniel 11:32

“This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ says the Lord of Hosts. Zechariah 4:6

“But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” Acts 1:8

“For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit …” 1 Thessalonians 1:5

“For the kingdom of God is not in word but in power.” 1 Corinthians 4:20

“… in mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God …” Romans 15:19

“Truly the signs of an apostle were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds.” 2 Corinthians 12:12

“God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit …” Hebrews 2:4

“And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the Word through the accompanying signs. Amen.” Mark 16:20

“And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all.” Acts 4:33

“But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you …” 1 John 2:27

“But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.” 1 John 2:20

“Then fear came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were done through the apostles.” Acts 2:43

“For You are my lamp, O Lord; the Lord shall enlighten my darkness. For by You I can run against a troop; by my God I can leap over a wall. As for God, His way is perfect; the word of the Lord is proven; He is a shield to all who trust in Him.” 2 Samuel 22:29

“It is God who arms me with strength, and makes my way perfect. He makes my feet like the feet of deer, and sets me on high places. He teaches my hands to make war, so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze … I have pursued my enemies and overtaken them; neither did I turn back again till they were destroyed, I have wounded them, so that they were not able to rise; they have fallen under my feet. For You have armed me with strength for the battle; you have subdued under me those who rose up against me.” Psalm 18:32

“The angel of the Lord encamps all around those who fear Him, and delivers them.” Psalm 34:7

“For He shall give His angels charge over you, to keep you in all your ways.” Psalm 91:11

“And let the angel of the Lord chase him … And let the angel of the Lord pursue him … Let the destruction come upon him unexpectedly.” Psalm 35:5-8

“Behold, I send an angel before you to keep you in the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared.” Exodus 23:20

“Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?” Hebrews 1:14

“And it came to pass on a certain night that the angel of the Lord went out, and killed in the camp of the Assyrians one hundred and eighty-five thousand; and when the people arose early in the morning, there were the corpses – all dead.” 2 Kings 19:35

“Then immediately an angel of the Lord struck him, because he did not give glory to God. And he was eaten by worms and died.” Acts 12:23

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by thenonconformer on June 3, 2013 • Permalink

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If you are led by the Holy Spirit

Firstly as I had given thought as to why God was not using more pastors, professing Christians effectively, the first answer I got was that it was totally obvious they were not totally committed to God alone but they falsely still wanted the praise of others, even to do their own thing.. Since most people still lie to others and themselves many they will not admit to this even. They may rather falsely respond with the common false remark I am doing my best, well God does not want your best he wants all of you. There are several ways of understanding “Filling with the Holy Spirit.”

Some people teach that it happens AUTOMATICALLY at conversion: when one asks Lord Jesus Christ into his or her heart. Others believe that filling occurs at some point in rime during the believer’s full acceptance of Jesus Christ both as Lord and Savior. No matter when you are filled with the Holy Spirit you do really experience it, show it, know it.. All believers are indwelled by the Holy Spirit; however, not all believers are firstly now “filled” with the Spirit and His power, otherwise God would not have to command us to be. The lack of spiritual power is all too evident among believers. Being filled with the Holy Spirit is Not an option. If you have already received Christ, in Ephesians 5:18 God commands all believers to be filled with the Spirit; therefore, we know it is God’s will for everyone. Again it is really a command from God and really not an option. Carnal Christians still cannot experience the Abundant and Fruitful Christian Life Carnal Man (One who has received Christ, but who lives in defeat because he is trying to live the Christian life in his own strength) Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

2 Timothy 2: 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

1 Thessalonians 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

Romans 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.1 Corinthians 3 :20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

1 Timothy 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

It is an untenable fact of life that the masses of people, even most professing Christians are still very much Bible ignorant persons who mainly and falsely rely on others for their Christian knowledge and doctrines . And it also an undeniable fact of life that even most preachers do have hidden or not so hidden agendas, Fame, Prestige, Power, Monetary aspects and sex included now, so they are also still mostly false preachers and they deceive the masses of people, professing Christians even. This all very sad while the devil is laughing all the way, as he is happy with the end results.. The New Testament elaborates these undeniable negative truths existing even today in the last days. Sadly most professing Christian, are still mostly money hungry people even clearly now who are not even Holy Spirit filled? Rather clearly they seem to deny, hate the Holy Spirit and His manifestations now too.. and what these fools think they are going to Heaven and not Hell.. dream on

Amazingly enough, the Bible itself was AND IS OFTEN STILL BEING USED AS A primary tool for deception. By the false interpretation, adulteration and misrepresentation of the scriptures, ambitious men justify their false spirituality This is no less than a fact that continues to this very day. “Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith ” (Titus 1: 13).

2 Peter 2: 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

And when I point out the Biblical truths disproving the lies that too many Dispensationalists Christians and Zionists falsely advocate you should see here too how emotional, fanatical, weird, crazy, obscene, immoral some of them next they tend to respond..Yet, we are now too often told today that we are not to the judge these crooked pastors, evangelsist but to falsely fellowship with men whose doctrines too often too clearly are just as unscriptural as those of the Pharisees. “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they be of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (I John 4: 1). All doctrine and teachers are to be tried according to the Word of God. “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isa. 8:20), “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them ” (Rom. 16:17). Those whose conduct and teaching contradicts the Word of God are to be marked and to be avoided. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith ” (Titus 1: 13). “Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers ” (Titus 1:9). “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them ” (Eph. 5:11). Reprove means to censure, condemn, find fault, rebuke, and to refute. How can we obey this Scripture unless we try them by the Word of God? “

Every Scripture verse should be read in its context, if we are to properly understand the true meaning. But as well we need to pray to the Holy Spirit to guide, teach us.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love….. 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Most people falsely seem to preach the Observance of all of God’s laws. not the new ones Jesus Preached.. and why? they are not being led by the Holy Spirit even..

Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come..

Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Mark 12 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Why is it that when the whole world seems to have access to the same information, yet still all men do not come to the same knowledge of truth, rather there arises even very different religions, sects, conflicting understandings, major differences.

Spiritual truth can come only through divine revelation! All Major spiritual truth comes by divine revelation. Revelation is the revealing or disclosing of of truth or knowledge through the direct communication with God, the process by which God reveals knowledge of himself, his will, and his divine providence, to the world of human beings; There are so many false people blending some Christian truth with other things such as Jewish legalism, philosophy, and/or mysticism while still claiming a superior knowledge or claim to have a have a semblance of spirituality but they are actually the worst form of religious persons now still, demonic ones, with no actual, sincerity or spiritual value cause these ego maniacs all they want to do is to exalt themselves Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Real Christians believe and practice that God reveals all truth through the Bible, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit as well.. There too often to day is still the great folly of trusting in self, man and not trusting in the God who allows us to understand all spiritual things through His Holy Spirit.“I believe that one of the biggest reasons that the body of Christ hasn’t made a greater impact on our generation today is because of our failure to operate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Without a doubt, Jesus and the first apostles used the gifts like a bell, calling men to their message and confirming that God was truly the One speaking through them”. Andrew Wommack

The vast majority of preaching and Christian living done in the name of the Lord today is still really without the power of the Holy Spirit manifest through the gifts of the Holy Spirit. This was, is not the way the Lord Jesus Christ had intended it to be.for sure..No one can have an effective life or ministry without the power of God’s Holy Spirit working in him or her. This fact can’t be argued by anyone who truly believes the Bible is God’s Word. The Scriptures are replete with proof that it is “not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the LORD of hosts” (Zech. 4:6). It is true that the Holy Spirit is still willing to move as in biblical times then there is no excuse for living lives so far removed from that great victory portrayed in God’s Word.

PREACHING THE OBSERVANCE OF LAWS YOU CANNOT EVEN STILL KEEP IS ABSURD, REALLY!

Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

Galatians 3 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Galatians 4 4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. 21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

Galatians 5 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

1 Timothy 1 7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Titus 3 9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

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by thenonconformer on June 3, 2013 • Permalink

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Did you know that Just believing

Did you know that Just believing even that Jesus Christ is God is not enough?

Acts 1117 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

Acts 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 28:31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Romans 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

Romans 13”14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Romans 15″:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ’s sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;

Romans 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

1 Corinthians 1:3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

1 Corinthians 8: 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

1 Corinthians 15: 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

23 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

2 Corinthians 1:2 Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

Galatians 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,

Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.

Ephesians 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Ephesians 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Ephesians 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

24 Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.

Philippians 1:2 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

Philippians 4:23 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Colossians 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

1 Thessalonians 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

1 Thessalonians 2:19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?

1 Thessalonians 3”11 Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you.

13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

1 Thessalonians 5

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

28 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

2 Thessalonians 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

1 Timothy 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

1 Timothy 5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

22 The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen.

Titus 1:4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Philemon 1:3 Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

25 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

James 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

2 Peter 1

8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.

16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

2 John 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

2 Corinthians 11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.

Revelation 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Salvation by the lordship of Jesus Christ now is needed for all unsaved persons, Jews, gentiles. It is not enough to merely accept that Jesus Christ is God as the devil believes that now also so what? he is still going to hell. Now the Messianic Jews believes in Jesus Christ the messiah, but so what they all will mostly God to hell cause they are unwilling to become real full Christians, unwilling to give up the Torah as well, to make Jesus Christ the sole Lord in their life, and not any Laws rather too.. .. so they too now are still counted rightfully as lost, unsaved person..

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by thenonconformer on June 1, 2013 • Permalink

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Posted by thenonconformer on June 1, 2013

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/did-you-know-that-just-believing/

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