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Quebec’s elderly care is sickening

A daughter  went to court  to seek an emergency injunction to force the curator to treat her father, who is being left “to die,” she maintained, because the curator will not authorize the necessary antibiotics to treat his lungs, or to treat a urinary infection he has also contracted. This is euthanasia. Pneumonia is easily cured with a round of antibiotics.  The Quebec Public Curator stepped in this summer to take over all legal , financial payments and decisions for 80-year-old father. This is how they make money using redundant now hospital beds.The Government has cut 500 beds in long-term facilities in the last 10 years, and now are offering medical aid rather to die for the very sick.

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Om Quebec there is not enough existing staff to look after the seniors in the old age homes.. Doctors and Nurses included.. Seniors tend to be more ill, sicker, need more nursing care, more distribution of  pills, more looking after, more bed linen changing too,  and a ratio of one nurse to 40 senior patients is totally inadequate.. never mind if they have seriously ill patients.. and forget any care during the night even..So what is the government best proposed solution on this matter.. Euthanasia, kill them.. especially if no family members object and no family members visit them for two weeks.. you just stop feeding them and stop giving them any water and they will be dead within 5 days..  https://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/a-long-term-care-home-employee-faces-a-criminal-negligence-charge/

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A nurse at Info-Santé recommended   the daughter for an ambulance to take him to an acute-care hospital for emergency treatment. But after the ambulance arrived,   staff at the nursing home stopped her father from leaving. And  the floor coordinator called the police,   because the guardian public curator had not issued a directive to allow him to leave.

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The daughter was next successful in obtaining a court decision ordering the public curator to release her father to be transported to the Montreal General Hospital for treatment. .

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Home and medical care for ailing seniors has been criticized by everyone from Quebec’s auditor-general to the provincial ombudsman for the past 15 years all to no avail.. Will  they let you doe too next?..

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Quebec has worst emergency room wait times, in the country and among the worst in the Western world, 35 per cent of patients in Quebec — one in three — waited  hours or more for help in an emergency ward, one patient in 10 who goes to an emergency room leaves having failed to have seen a doctor or being directed to another establishment. The average provincial wait time for a specialist in a hospital is about eight hours.  The wait times in Quebec hospitals have barely changed in the past five years. The average wait time in an emergency room in Quebec is 15.3 hours in 2016. In 2015, the average wait was nearly the same: 15.4 hours. In 2015, about 45 per cent of all ER visits, 1.5 million, were longer than the maximum time recommended by Quebec’s health department  Almost half of cancer patients in Montreal wait more than 4 weeks for surgery. 232 Montreal cancer patients had been waiting at least two months for their surgery .  The government’s publicly stated objective is that 90 per cent of cancer patients scheduled for surgery undergo their operation within 28 days. Yet in Montreal, no hospital has achieved that goal. Ontario has a better system of prioritizing cancer surgical cases based on four levels of urgency. Cancers of the breast, lung and colon should be given immediate priority, while thyroid and even prostate cancers can wait beyond 28 days,
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A report card system, which allows nurses and doctors to see how their efforts stand up compared to others, have improved results.  Quebec doctors, however, have traditionally resisted any form of performance evaluation. Ontario spends $30 million a year on performance evaluations — conducted by a similar agency — and its results are among the best in Canada.
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A Quebec hospital  investigating the death of a diabetic man who died while sitting in a wheelchair in the waiting room at a Montreal emergency department.  André Desjardins, 64, went to the Maisonneuve-Rosemont Hospital by ambulance after complaining of severe pain. He already suffered from high blood pressure and was a heavy smoker, in addition to having diabetes. A doctor at the hospital saw him but Desjardins was sent back to the waiting area. As his pain worsened, family members pleaded with staff to let him lie down on a stretcher, but none was provided. Instead, hospital staff put him in a wheelchair, where he spent an estimated seven hours waiting for futher care before he died, said his relatives. Making anyone in a medical crisis wait for care in an ER makes no sense at all, and reflects Quebec’s chronic problem with emergency care, said patients’ rights advocate Paul Brunet. “We had the ultimate failure of the system with the death of this guy. We shouldn’t have to wait in an emergency ward. We should stop accepting that,” said Brunet, who heads Quebec’s Conseil de protection des malades. “Evidently that patient was gravely ill, and certainly should have been taken care of more seriously than he was.” The hospital has apologized to Desjardins’ family but won’t comment further until its internal investigation is complete. Quebec Health Minister Yves Bolduc said that Desjardins’ death is unacceptable and regrettable, but denied that it had anything to do with the hospital operating at over-capacity. It’s not the first time a patient has died waiting in the Maisonneuve-Rosemont ER. Last February, an elderly woman suffering from Alzheimer’s disease died after waiting two hours on a stretcher in the Maisonneuve-Rosemont ER. Later reports found the hospital’s emergency ward was operating at 200 per cent capacity that day. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/101019/canada/canada_montreal_quebec_man_dies_in_hospital_emergency_room
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Basic Christianity

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Basic Christianity includes the whole Gospel and  these Absolute truths:
 
Man is not the center of the Universe, God alone is.
Man’s primary duty on earth is to worship, praise, and serve God
The Bible is Absolutely true even if many may interpret it still their own way
The Old Testament basically only applied to the Jews, while the New Testament – New Covenant  applies to all Believers, Christians
Jesus now also pre-existed as God before the foundation of the world
The Triune God is an Absolute reality even before the beginning of time
Jesus was, is Absolutely God. Fully God and Fully Man.
Sin is real, all mankind has sinned and needs their personal, conditional Jesus salvation, includes both Jews and gentile as well
Jesus paid the penalty for all our past, present  sins, he died to on the cross to free us from all sin and to  give you  now an eternal life
God will Absolutely judge all personal wickedness upon one’s death
It is appointed for all mankind to die once and after that judgment
God Absolutely loves us but he still cannot overlook our unrepentant sins
Each man, women, child is personally accountable, responsible alone before God
We are saved, healed, delivered,  set free, by God’s  mercy and grace alone, basically by no merit or spirituality of our own
The devil and evil sprits are also now still real as well,  whom we must continually resist by  faith
Hell is real and Absolutely will befall those who do not have the faith and a confession of Christ or any of those who reject it
God is Absolutely sovereign, in full control in of all things on earth now too, even in spite of the fact the devil may claim otherwise
Jesus’ physical body was raised from the grave, and next so will ours. We will have our body in Heaven.
God equips us, empowers us by the Holy Spirit to be able to fully life the godly Christian life
God still speaks to all of his own even by a clear distinct voice
The same Jesus yesterday, today and forever also had a ministry of healing, and deliverance and healed all that were sick or in bondage by the devil
God’s ministry for us personally includes helping the poor and needy persons, even in our local churches
Physical prosperity is not God’s essential, basic will for us all now too
God continues to  assign  today Elders: Apostles, Prophets, Pastors- teachers, miracles workers -healing  evangelists
The gift of tongues are part of God’s ongoing gift to the whole body of Christ even today
Jesus Christ is absolutely going to return next to the Earth one day to take his own to Heaven
Israel’s right, promise to their promised land is an Old Testament, not a New Testament promise.
Tithing also is an Old Testament demand , not a New Testament one.
God is creating next a new Heaven and a new Earth
The just still shall live continually by faith in God, not rather in self or man, to meet all of his or her needs.
 
Personal depression is also related to having a God shaped vacuum in our own life, and from deviating from God, his words in the Bible, God’s will and plan for our life too.
– God is the center of the Universe, and not any man, mankind. Man’s sin includes falsely still doing his own thing, following after mere men instead of God.
– The Bible is the word of God, is God’s complete truth, it is all inspired, written by God himself, and it is still teaches us filly God’s truths that we must know, follow, practice today as well.
– Jesus is God and he undeniably loves each one of us that he died for our sins so we can accept his forgiveness and be with him in Heaven. Everyone can be solely saved by Jesus Christ alone, Jews included, and there is no other way a person can be saved from hell.
– The Holy Spirit is  a person, the sprit of Jesus Christ, and whether some admit it or not, like it or not his gifts are all in operation today including the gift of prophecy, speaking in tongues, interpretation of tongues, healing, deliverance as well. The Holy sprit is given to us to help each one of us personal walk in reality the Christian life.
– God does and can speak to us also outside of the Bible as well, he through His son Jesus, the Holy Spirit leads and guides us personally too, and we all can and must learn how to listen to, hear  his voice.
– Prayer is an essential ongoing aspect of God’s will for each one of us, we must give God permission to act here on earth and in our life, and we all must personally seek, follow, get to now  know his ongoing  will for each one us as well.
– A daily quite time, Biblical devotions and prayer is a must for every person.
– We have a responsibility to share the good news with others, and  to look after our own family, as well as to help the poor and needy persons as well.
– There’s only one place we all, each  can be saved, and that is  here on earth for  after death  it is too late for everyone to be saved.
– All sin is still an affront against God and each sin must be daily, continually admitted, repented, turned from  as well, including cheating, lying, stealing, adultery, fornication, alcoholism, drunkenness, divorce, abusing ourselves and others too.
– God is not mocked, in spite of His grace of forgiveness, next what a person continues to willfully, deliberately sow, do wrong as well, they next will also reap here on earth and elsewhere.
– Jesus Christ alone is still the head of the Church and not any man, pastor, elder, priests, apostle, prophet.
(Isa 66:3 KJV) He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
(Ezek 6:13 KJV) Then shall ye know that I am the LORD, when their slain men shall be among their idols round about their altars, upon every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and under every green tree, and under every thick oak, the place where they did offer sweet savour to all their idols.
 
(Psa 35:13 KJV) But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.
 
It seems that many people, professing Christians included now, tend to personally only seek God only when they have serious needs, problems or they do want something really bad and next when the problem is solved, or they got what they wanted, they next often tend to, do seem to forget about God again? But even all Christians now still do have major problems in life.. for there is a real devil who troubles us personally all of our life and we we are to resist him in the faith.. True happiness cannot be in reality achieved without having a continual, personal relationship with God here on earth and us continually knowing and following solely his will of our life too, instead of Idols.    Why is God jealous of idols before us? well it means he is envious for our own good.. he strives for all things to be our good… What idols? what ever replaces God is an idol.. what ever you falsely worship as substitute for God. And it can be drugs, booze, sex, or your wife, son , daughter, a persons, car,  self, even your church, your pastor, your denomination, your own doctrines, beliefs, your culture, your nationality … for we all had or  have a god shaped vacuum in our life.. but  filling it with extremes or  false substitutes, junk will never be acceptable to God. Never. If you still do have a God shaped vacuum that is unfilled, then no other things, no relationships or careers, goals, next will satisfy you, not even any personal, social, community relationships, acts.  Hey I also have learned long time ago that merely telling the truth to some people will not work, they have their false idols, false lies they still want to handle, and they will take the Ostrich approach to the truth, but hopefully the truth will next still help some people.
(Psa 118:9 KJV) It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.
(Psa 146:3 KJV) Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
The LORD rightfully is my shepherd.. not man… (Lev 19:4 KJV) Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.(Lev 26:1 KJV) Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
And No idols includes one’s pastor, one’s denomination, religious club… Man’s best is too often just more hatred, murder, abuse…. 70 percent of today’s pastors are also crooked cause they are ungodly, unsaved hirelings, wolves in sheep clothing, not called by God pastors trying to make money, a career of the ministry.. this is unacceptable… that is why they too readily do lie, counsel divorce, slander, abuse others.
 
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The false Hatred for the Cross of Jesus

 

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Hatred for the Cross, literally, Christians today are too often  being murdered by Muslims provoked at the sight of the cross as the Christian cross is the quintessential symbol of Christianity but it is a lot more than that. Judaism  and Islam’s age-old hatred for the Christian cross and what it represents leads them all to Hell.

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“But we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God” (1 Corinthians 1:23, 24).The cross offends because sinners do not deserve, cannot earn, and cannot buy salvation.

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“Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished.” [Galatians 5:11]

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Judges 21:25, “In those days there was no king in Israel:  every man did that which was right in his own eyes.”

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Matthew 16:21. From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day.  22 Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!” 23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”

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The man who is relying on his own strength for salvation, does not like the doctrine of the cross. If anyone preaches a gospel which tells the sinner that he has power to save himself; if he preaches a gospel which says that Christ died to put all men in a “savable” condition, that they only have to exercise the power they have, and they will be able to deliver themselves; if a man preaches something which exalts the skill and strength of the creature, he will never, never offend his unregenerate listeners. But if he starts to cast the sinner down in the dust, and to teach what Christ himself taught, “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him;” and that, in the Scriptures, all men are declared to be “dead in transgressions and sins;” then the proud sinner will turn away/ Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin (Hebrews 9:12, 22-24; Revelation 7:14).;

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No sin is more offensive to God than the sin of pride. … The world system operates on the basis of pride for all that is in the world is lust and pride (1 John 2:16).     Repeatedly, the scripture warns of pride precipitating a fall. “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall” (Prov. 16:18). “The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted” (Isa. 2:11). Uzziah was greatly blessed and marvelously helped, “till he was strong. But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction” (2 Chron. 26:15-16). He transgressed by entering the temple to offer incense on the altar. When confronted by the priests, Uzziah became furious. While he was holding the censer in his hand God smote him and leprosy rose up in his forehead. He lost the throne and was a leper the rest of his life.    God not only dwells in the high and holy place. He also dwells with him “that is of a contrite and humble spirit” (Isa. 57:15). The man who sits nearest the dust sits nearest heaven. It is the valley of humiliation that leads to the mount of transfiguration. He that is low need fear no fall.

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Galatians 5:2. Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. 4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

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Galatians 6:12. Those who desire to make a good showing in the flesh try to compel you to be circumcised, simply that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ.

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Galatians 6:15. For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.

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The great apostle Paul said, “God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ” (Galatians 6:14a; KJV; ).

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Romans 9:33, “As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.”

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“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.” -Matthew 10:34,35

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Jesus sternly told His disciples that He would bring offense (Matthew 16:16–23; 26:31–35; Mark 8:27–33). Christ even used a Greek word that means “scandalized,”  saying that His followers would be offended in Him (Mark 14:27–31; John 6:60, 61).  The Greek word for “scandalized,” skandalizo, means “to fall away.”

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We will not understand the salvation that Jesus brought until we understand the cross. At the cross God said that the only way to defeat sin is through the righteous judgment of sin. If the cross does not matter, then nothing matters!

 

In Zechariah 12:10, the prophet Zechariah wrote, So that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him, like the bitter weeping over a first-born. ‘

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‘Except you lose your life, you cannot gain your life’ (Matthew 16:25). The only way to save your life is through losing your pride and life. The only way to become a new creature is to be crucified with Christ.

 

Luke 9 23 ¶ And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.

Hebrews 13 12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. 13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.

Galatians 6 14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

 

 Words & Music: George Ben­nard, 1913 (MI­DI).

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The Old Rugged Cross

  1. On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross,
    The emblem of suff’ring and shame;
    And I love that old cross where the Dearest and Best
    For a world of lost sinners was slain.
    • Refrain:
      So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross,
      Till my trophies at last I lay down;
      I will cling to the old rugged cross,
      And exchange it someday for a crown.
  2. Oh, that old rugged cross, so despised by the world,
    Has a wondrous attraction for me;
    For the dear Lamb of God left His glory above
    To bear it to dark Calvary.
  3. In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine,
    A wondrous beauty I see,
    For ’twas on that old cross Jesus suffered and died,
    To pardon and sanctify me.
  4. To the old rugged cross I will ever be true;
    Its shame and reproach gladly bear;
    Then He’ll call me someday to my home far away,
    Where His glory forever I’ll share..

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My recent most Popular posts

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Psalms 1:  1    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2    But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3    And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4    The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5    Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6    For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
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Psalms 119:
1    Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
2    Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
3    They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
4    Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
5    O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
6    Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
7    I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
8    I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
9    Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.
10    With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.
11    Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
12    Blessed art thou, O LORD: teach me thy statutes.
13    With my lips have I declared all the judgments of thy mouth.
14    I have rejoiced in the way of thy testimonies, as much as in all riches.
15    I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways.
16    I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.
17    Deal bountifully with thy servant, that I may live, and keep thy word.
18    Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.
19    I am a stranger in the earth: hide not thy commandments from me.
20    My soul breaketh for the longing that it hath unto thy judgments at all times.
21    Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.
22    Remove from me reproach and contempt; for I have kept thy testimonies.
23    Princes also did sit and speak against me: but thy servant did meditate in thy statutes.
24    Thy testimonies also are my delight and my counsellors.
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Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, Trinity

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A  little boy in Sunday School, who was  drawing feverishly and  One of the teachers noticed walked over to him and said, ” what are you doing?” to which he said, “I’m drawing a picture of God.” The teacher said, “But no one knows what God looks like.” Without missing a beat he kept drawing and said, “They will when I get finished.”
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“The Holy Spirit of God is the Spirit of God, fully divine.” That means that in every way He is equal with God the Father and God the Son. He possesses their attributes and character. He is omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and holy. He is eternal, immutable, righteous, just and loving. And, as the third person of the Holy Trinity, He is a person. This is an important point to understand.  Many people make the mistake of referring to the Holy Spirit with the impersonal pronoun, “It.” But this is not how scripture reveals Him to us. When Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit, say in John 14:26 for example He uses the masculine personal pronoun when He says, “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit – the Father will send Him in My name – will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.”  The Holy Spirit is a unique person with the characteristics which define a person.One can be in fellowship with Him or one can be out of fellowship with Him. One can invite Him to be present or one can grieve Him and quench His presence. Acts 5:3 tells us that it is possible to lie to Him and Acts 7:51 tells us it is possible to resist Him. And Acts 13:2 tells us that He speaks, all of these are characteristics of a person.

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In Acts 1:8 the disciples were told that they would receive a special anointing of power, a special enablement to carry forth with the work of the kingdom of God. This is the same thing which the Lord spoke through the prophet Zachariah in Zachariah 4:6 when He said, “Not by strength or by might, but by My Spirit, says the Lord of Hosts.” Jesus said that without Him we can do nothing, which is to say, without His Spirit working in us and through us, without the supernatural empowerment which He alone can give, we cannot accomplish anything of eternal consequence. The Holy Spirit empowers.

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I Corinthians 12, Romans 12:6-8 and 1 Peter 4:10-11 tell us that the Holy Spirit gives spiritual gifts to every believer to equip them to be a functional and productive part of the body of Christ. Now why aren’t they obvious them? The problem, you see, is not with the Spirit who gives the gifts, but with the ignorant, carnal  believer who who is not investing their life in the work of the kingdom of God. The Church   grows or diminish based on the active work of the Holy Spirit  through the people of God to accomplish the will of God on earth.

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Galatians 5:22-23 “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.”

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Many professing Christians still do Struggle with the doctrine of the Holy Spirit.  Great demonic confusion surrounds thus the  Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit amongst the Baptists, Evangelicals, Dispensationalists  mainly because there are too many ignorant  fools who  try to teach, explain something they themselves have still have never personally experienced yet.  They falsely thus do  teach the “cessationist” doctrine – a false view that does not believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit, including prophecy and tongues, are operational in the Church today. So the majority of the they thus have falsely remained in opposition to the open manifestation of the Holy Spirit. “…  We should  understand the demonic agenda of all  those who wish to drive into the shadows falsely all those of us who are open to this area of the Spirit’s work, as clearly attested in Scripture..

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For some   the  Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit   is viewed as a subsequent work of grace in a believer’s life and is equated with the filling of the Holy Spirit. Others associate the baptism of the Holy Spirit as a normal secondary Christian experience with the full gifts of the Holy Spirit including the gift of tongues as a result of accepting Jesus Christ the full Lord of one\s own personal life, abandoning all to Jesus… Still others diligently see  it as a  rare, special unusual work of God in the life of only some Christian  believer which confirms God’s power and allows a special closeness to God never before experienced. Still  Christ is always described as the baptizer of the Holy Spirit. One thing is very clear today. We all do  need the Holy Spirit! We all do  need Him now, we need Him desperately and we need Him always. There really e is an experience for believers that is called “the baptism of the Holy Spirit”. We all need to understand it..This baptism by the Holy Spirit is  empowering  and a separate experience generally from Salvation. How much of the Holy Spirit do you have?” or ”How much of me does Jesus Christ really have?”
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It really is a great dispensationalist lie, falsehood that the the doctrine of “the baptism of the Holy Spirit” is 1 Corinthians 12:13  found  in the book of Acts that deal with encountering the Holy Spirit were under special circumstances. Temporary only.  Acts is a history book that details the ongoing supernatural origin of the church. The book of Acts It is a  not just a temporary descriptive  transitional book that describes that unique time in history when Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to be the Paraclete, comforter and companion.   Thus Pentecost was  the beginning of the work of the Holy Spirit  personally in one’s life and . We can  build a theology of the the  Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit from the book of Acts. The very primary   meaning of the word “baptism” is “to immerse or submerge”, “to be joined with., or  anointed specifically. It is personal,experience. “and it still does not   happens to all believers.  When then does the baptism occur? The clear teaching of the New Testament is that it should normally takes place at conversion but obviously not for many and why? Basic Ignorance..
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The wonderful personal experience of the baptism by the Holy Spirit brings us  a  new empowered  life, not  just by Jesus Christ a new identity and a new nature.  Christ gives  you the empowering of the Holy Spirit of Christ,  Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you
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Is 51:23 .. your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
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Jesus Christ, God, the Holy Spirit do not bash,  cut down ,   tear into ,  bad-mouth , castigate  ,  defame , derogate ,tear apart , knock , oppress , persecute , revile , slam , sling mud against,  condemn    Christians .  So how do you treat other Christians with love and respect or with a false hatred?
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About the Holy Spirit haters, bashers   The false Demotion of the Holy Spirit, Jesus .. Jesus had said that without Him and his Holy Spirit you can do nothing.. nothing everlasting, or significant too. yet people falsely do try to Divorce the Holy Spirit or try to substitute the Holy Spirit with false doctrines, vanities still to day. Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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Holy Spirit led, filled Christians   Pentecostalism or Classical Pentecostalism believe that all Real Christians are Pentecostals or Charismatics and  is a renewal movement within Christianity that places special emphasis on a direct personal experience of God through the  Lordship of Jesus Christ, baptism with the Holy Spirit leading to Holy Spirit–filled and empowered life as well as biblical authority, and the miraculous, personal empowerment which includes the use of spiritual gifts. Pentecostals tend to also see their movement as reflecting the same kind of spiritual power and teachings that were found in the Apostolic Age of the early church. For this reason, some Pentecostals also use the term Apostolic or full gospel to describe their movement. Real Pentecostals do practice and  believe and in an authentic relationship with God, the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, the Trinity, stemming from simple conversation with them through prayers and even fasting. They tend to believe a Christian can both be demon possessed and can  lose their personal Salvation as well. They tend to put a greater emphasis on prayer over Bible reading,  and thus can still even have some personal errors.. Pentecostalism as a whole now even follows four core doctrines: salvation, divine healing, baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the second coming of Christ as well as a Mission to others. These missions include to evangelize the lost,  the praise and worship of God,  to teach and disciple believers, and to show practical, real compassion to the poor and needy.  Some Pentecostals groups still falsely   teach and demand tithing. Others now falsely allow divorce. Many Pentecostals also put emphasis on the latter rain outpouring, Believing that we all were living in the end times, they expect God to presently spiritually renew the Christian Church bringing to pass not only the restoration of spiritual gifts, but also the evangelization of the whole world by the re-establishment and the mutual submission of the offices of Apostles, Prophets, Pastors teachers, evangelists. It should be noted some Pastors falsely  object to their submission to others.

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The Pentecostals do now differ very significantly from the other main Christian Denominations including the Mennonites, Brethren, Baptists, Catholics, Anglican, Presbyterian for they preach the whole or full Gospel of Jesus Christ; Jesus  as Savior, Healer, Deliverer, Provider, coming King, Baptizer of the Holy Ghosts, Sanctifier, Giver of gifts too… and yet this denomination basically is not more spiritual over the others, mainly because the leadership has watered down the requirements of what it takes to be a Christian, a church member .. apparently you can often buy a membership by tithing, giving ten percent of your income to the local church..   While there are many similar evidently aspects of the Pentecostals such as the main emphasis on not only Jesus, His salvation, forgiveness but also on the Holy sprit, leading , gifts, empowering each local Church tends to differ, some seriously even depart from the faith in reality, have accepted falsehoods, lies, distortions into their midst, doctrines like many other denominations now too. I do deal with some of these issues too.

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IT IS ONE OF THE GREATEST LIES OF THE DEVIL, MYTHS THAT ONE CAN BE A CHRISTIAN OR THAT SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS, EVEN HOLINESS CAN BE ACHIEVED WITHOUT THE FILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

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The anointing of the Holy spirit      Firstly we all do still do need to know as to what is a real Christian? Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 
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To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom  we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. Jesus Christ himself also was baptized with the Holy Spirit, The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One.
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(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Now  the anointed one- Greek for Messiah (anointed one) is Christos, Christ in English. Thus, “Jesus Christ” joins a name and a title, and means Jesus the Messiah. Christ, Messiah, Anointed One. The title “Christ” or “Anointed One” Gk. Christos “Cristov” occurs about 350 times in the New Testament..
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The word christos means a person HOLY SPIRIT anointed . The Greek name for an individual “Christos” rendered “Christ” in Scripture, the basic of the term Christian now as well, comes from the Greek word “chrio” means to anoint with oil, the symbol of the Holy Spirit,
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Luke 4:18-19 (Wey) [Jesus:] “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed me to proclaim Good News to the poor; He has sent me to announce release to the prisoners of war and recovery of sight to the blind: to send away free those whom tyranny has crushed, to proclaim the year of acceptance with the Lord.”But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . .
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As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in him. 1 John 2:20, 27;
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The word christos means a person so anointed and the word chrisma refers to that by which a person is anointed. John uses chrisma in these two verses, not speaking of the object being anointed but of the instrument of anointing. Additionally, we find a word christianos in Acts 11:26, which means “one belonging to the Anointed One,” just as Herodianos would mean “one who belongs to Herod.” As the ultimate Prophet, King and Priest, Jesus Christ was anointed when he began his earthly ministry. This anointing was predicted by Isaiah in Isaiah 61:1 when he said that the Spirit of the Lord would come upon the Messiah. In God’s time, when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, we are told the Holy Spirit came upon him when he came up out of the water. In other words, he was anointed by the Holy Spirit, and that without measure.
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When Jesus quoted Isaiah 61:1,2 in the synagogue of Nazareth, saying, “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,” he was announcing to the people that he was the Messiah prophesied by Isaiah long ago and that the anointing of the Holy Spirit was now resting upon him.
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Not only is Jesus Christ anointed, but the Bible tells us that every believer in Jesus Christ is also anointed. We are kings, priests, and prophets under the Priest, Prophet and King, the Lord Jesus Christ. We find references to this in many places. John the Baptist said there was another person coming after him, mightier than himself, who would baptize people in the Holy Spirit and fire.
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In Acts 1:5 the Lord Jesus Christ himself speaks of this, saying, “For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.” This was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost, as we read in Acts 2:4: “All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.” The Greek word for anointing is chrisma, from which we have the word chrism. Chrisma appears several times in 1 John 2:20 and 27. It comes from the root word, chriô, which means to rub something or someone lightly with a substance like oil or lotion. Thus, when John writes in 1 John 2:20, “But you have a chrisma, an anointing,” he was referring to the coming of the Holy Spirit upon every believer.;
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(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One,    Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and  the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”
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and by the way these people who clearly hate, reject, abuse the Holy Spirit by offering their false definition of Christian   really do need to relook at the definition of a Christians, as they clearly are not Holy Spirit anointed  Christians even.. they are not real Christians..  So one can tell if any person is a Christian cause they also can see the evidence of the holy spirit’s anointing.. so now we all can be anointed one inspectors of all Christians now too.
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So can we  see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ in you.. do we all see it  easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?
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Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…  and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths. and they falsely try to say something typical like this  now.. the big lie“If you check every single Biblical reference to the Anointing you should notice that ” There is not ONE SINGLE reference to the anointing being a supernatural power given to human by which they are able to perform miracles… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to anyone being able to transmit the anointing by any means, including the laying on of hands… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to getting, keeping, increasing, or losing the anointing.”All lies..
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It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”
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Mind you they these same liars do have to Tear out the whole Old Testament for a start.. the prophets were clearly anointed, and performed miracles, and the same Jesus yesterday, today and forever who lives in us today too, who was anointed and performed miracles he had also said that believers will do even greater things now too. In the reality now after all Samson next lost his anointing.. and so did King Saul lose his anointing .. and David asked God not to take away his anointing too after he had sinned with
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The anointing that the devil and his false followers do hate and oppose, lie about is this.. (Mark 16:17 KJV) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

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The anointing is sacred, the anointing is the Holy Spirit, and all believers in Christ have the anointing of the Holy Spirit. We must be careful what we say about our brothers and sisters in Christ.
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(Matthew 12:31 NKJV) “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
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(Jer 14:14 KJV) Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

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(Jer 14:15 KJV) Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

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(Jer 23:25 KJV) I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

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(Jer 27:15 KJV) For I have not sent them, saith the LORD, yet they prophesy a lie in my name; that I might drive you out, and that ye might perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.

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(Jer 29:9 KJV) For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.

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(Jer 29:23 KJV) Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.

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(Luke 21:8 KJV) And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

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The holy Spirit is real and he can be real to you too.

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(1 Cor 12:8 KJV) For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

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(2 Cor 3:18 KJV) But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

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(1 Pet 3:18 KJV) For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

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(1 Matt 3:24 KJV) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

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(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire

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(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him

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“I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed (enduo) with power (dunamis) from on high.” (Luke 24:49)  ”Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water (hudati), but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit (en pneumati hagio)…. But you will receive power (dunamis) when the Holy Spirit comes on (epiechomai) you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” (Acts 1:4, 5, 8; see 11:15-16)

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The “baptism of the Holy Spirit” is given to those persons who obey God, follow after and do his will.. it requires our initial personal involvement, willingness, obedience.

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The “baptism of the Holy Spirit” involves being covered with, immersed in, empowered by the Holy Spirit. Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a term used to describe a movement of the Spirit upon and/or within a believer usually at salvation but often after the person is saved. Actually it is likely that many people accept Jesus Christ intellectual but do take some time to make him fully the personal lord of their life next.

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Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”

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Mark 1:8, “I baptized you with water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”

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Acts 11:16, “And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

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The Early Church understood water baptism much as John the Baptist did, representing God’s cleansing and the washing away of our sins (Acts 22:16). It is a baptism of repentance still, since by submitting to Christian baptism, a person either tacitly or explicitly acknowledges his need for cleansing, and therefore his sins that demand forgiveness and cleansing. On the Day of Pentecost, Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”.

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We should be careful to not confuse Baptism in the Holy Spirit with the various other ministries of the Holy Spirit. The filling of the Holy Spirit is how He empowers and controls us (Acts 4:31; Ephesians 5:18). The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is God the Holy Spirit taking up permanent residence in our lives (John 14:17; Romans 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19; 1 John 4:4). The sealing of the Holy Spirit is God marking us as His permanent possession (Ephesians 1:13-14). Baptism in the Holy Spirit is related to these other ministries of the Holy Spirit, but at the same time, it is separate from them.

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My own experience supports the idea that the baptism in the Holy Spirit can be a subsequent occurrence to salvation. Long after my becoming a Christian, I had an experience where I next had specifically allowed the Holy Spirit moved upon me with great power.

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“He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.” (Luke 3:16)

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Have you been Baptized with the Holy Spirit? If you’ve repented of your sins and asked Christ to be your Lord and Master, then He responds with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

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(Rev 3:15 KJV) I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

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(Heb 13:8 KJV) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. is alive today.. and he can be alive today in you and me too. And John 4:4 states, “Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”
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(Luke 4:18-19 NKJV) “The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the Gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; {19} To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.”The choice is ours! Through the Word of God and the anointing of the Holy Spirit we can exercise a power and authority that no other can demonstrate nor compete with. God has called us and anointed us for that purpose. What will it be?  Therefore, if you would like a fresh anointing of the Holy Spirit upon your life, you must come before the Great Anointer! He alone can give you what you need. Open your heart to God, and allow Him to lay His hand upon your life in a new way. I guarantee you, a strong anointing will follow!

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1 The anointing is given to preach the Gospel to the poor

2. The anointing is given to heal and restore people
3. The anointing is given to proclaim freedom to the captives
4. The anointing is given to open blind eyes
5. The anointing is given to set people free
6. The anointing flows in God’s timing and proclaims God’s timing
7 The anointing is given to preach the Gospel to the poor, to bring the revelation of God’s love to those who are seeking.

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So why is it you do not pray in Tongues? Many even religious persons, people are falsely trying to reach Heaven, serve God in their own efforts neglect God’s provisions for them, God’s spiritual gifts. if you oppose tongues you are not even a Christian led by the holy Spirit. and that is your main problem still.. not being filled with the Holy Spirit.. You do need to learn what sins are holding you back from this…

.THE BOOGEYMAN CALLED FALSE TONGUES Of all the empty arguments offered by Cessationists, it is hard to find anything more bizarre than their claim of the existence of “false tongues.”  This doctrine is the new Boogeyman.

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Now about Speaking in tongues    I find it absurd that many claim to be Holy Spirit experts when the reality is, and they show it too, that they do not yet even know the Holy Spirit personally…. never mind Jesus.. It is amazing that many  people falsely concentrate on what they or others believe, what mere men and women say on the Subject and not rather what the New testament Bible actually says .. as the devil does not want them to see and admit the Bible truth.. there are so many different and even false interpretations too on what tongues thus is -“that the gift of tongues constituted a type of “ language,” a series of initially  unintelligible sounds that are unrelated to one’s own human speech and so they need to be also  interpreted.  One should pray to have this interpretation too”.

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Covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.Have you yourself wondered why some people really go really nuts, bonkers when you mention the word Holy Spirit.. I have! It is related to their false  fear of admitting and confessing their sins, of their own repentance.

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Acts 2:38   Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”;

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1 Corinthians 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

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We do not emphasize the baptism in the Spirit and speaking in tongues to a greater extent than all of the other essential New testament doctrines such as the New Birth from Above (salvation), dying to self, the Lordship of Jesus Christ,  and water baptism. All the teachings of the New Testament even about  tongues have  the same priority as it is in Scripture.

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There are now many, many Christians who give testimony to a new, dynamic and personal, life-changing experiences as a result of their  relationship with the Holy Spirit while other Professing Christians  they still do not have any real encounter and experience of the Holy Spirit, and why is that?

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When any biblical truths, even such as praying in tongues,  fall into obscurity and neglect, too many people offer false explanations, false excuses for it instead of reviving the truths in their life.

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The disciples who follow Jesus were born again. They had come to a vibrant and zealous faith in Christ, to the point that they were willing to give their lives for him. They had witnessed Christ’s authority, practiced some of his authority in expelling demons and healing people. They witnessed his resurrection and ascension. Yet it was to these disciples, clearly born again, that Jesus said

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“Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.  For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

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So  certainly   being baptized by the Holy Spirit is different from spiritual rebirth, and different from baptism by water, and it is  distinct from being baptized into the body of Christ.

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While God’s  gifts to men now are supernatural both in source and operation, they still do require the personal willingness  and having an  obedient hearts through which they the gifts might find expression. The believer must (1) have a clear understanding of the biblical base for promised gifts; (2) be touched in his heart with a desire for the gifts to flow; (3) be willing to submit to the inner sense that the Spirit is seeking expression; and (4) offer to the Holy Spirit his heart, emotions, will, and voice by which those gifts may operate. The key is obedient availability coupled with a sincere desire to please God.

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Jesus now had commanded His disciples to wait in Jerusalem until they had been “clothed with power from on high” (Luke 24:49). It was not until they had placed themselves at the Spirit’s disposal that they were “filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them” (Acts 2:4).Now on the Day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit fell upon the assembled believers as per the Bible and and “all of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues” (Acts 2:4). Later, as Peter was preaching at the house of Cornelius, “the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message” and they were “speaking in tongues and praising God” (Acts 10:44, 46). Again, as the apostle Paul was ministering to the Ephesian disciples, “the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied” (Acts 19:6). It is evident also that Paul himself was filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 9:17) and spoke in tongues (1 Corinthians 14:18). These Scriptures clearly show that speaking in tongues is the initial physical evidence of being baptized in the Holy Spirit.  When the early believers were filled, they spoke in other tongues, and the same holds true today. Millions of believers worldwide share the exact testimony: when they initially were baptized in the Holy Spirit they spoke in unknown tongues. This is the truth which Pentecostals consistently affirm. The prophecy of Joel 2:28, 29, cited by Peter in Acts 2:16, 17, links today’s Spirit-filled believers with those who were filled with the Spirit on the Day of Pentecost. The Spirit’s fullness, evidenced initially by the phenomenon of speaking in other tongues, is the common experience all celebrate with joy.

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The job description, empowernment   Now when I am hired in a new Job I ask my boss for a Job Description. When I meet a new Church Pastor I also do ask him what he thinks his job description is, to even now see if it is Biblically sound, if he really is a good shepherd of the flock.

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The  baptism of the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , Tongues, Prophets, Apostles, Miracle workers, tithing   have become unarguably the most neglected,  misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the news media, in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, especially in the fundamental evangelical religious circles and now all even because many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not unto God;   As they clearly do not have God’s understanding of these subjects cause they do not have the Holy Spirit.. so they are none of His for a start, they have let unrepentant sin continue in their lives still too

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How to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit.  (John 10:27 KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
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(Isa 30:21 KJV) And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
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The people who also tell us to use only the Bible they often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.
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(Eph 4:18 KJV) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
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Jesus is God’s perfect revelation. The Bible is the record of God’s revelation. To the experience, true Christian believer It is undeniably clearly that the Holy Sprit is the persons, individual that will lead and guide us into all truth, even explaining the Bible to us now as well.  Imagine now instead that you too even can actually hear God’s voices, THAT OF JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT AS WELL NOW and their  specific instructions to you instead of hearing your own voice, the Jewish lusts of the flesh,  or the Devil’s voice.
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HOW EASY IS IT TO HEAR GOD’S VOICE.. THAT  MORE I DESIRE TO HEAR HIM THE EASIER  IT IS THAT SO DO.. AS GOD SAID IF YOU SEEK ME WITH YOUR WHOLE HEART YOU WILL FIND ME.
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Now we all still do have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear his will, guidance, commandments for us..
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Personal Humbleness is one of the basic prerequisite to allow God to personally speak to us. I know that many persons now tend to limit, cripple how God can speak to them, as only being through the Mind, through the Bible, only through others, or through circumstances.. well I also know that the devil can speak to you and me that way now too.. or he devil can send you a supposedly wise person telling you what you should do , what to do. and often rather making it a lot worse.
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Still there is a false  thinking that the    Bible is solely the Word of God, or  neglecting  most of the New Testament,, There is a huge pitfall in  thinking the Bible is the Word of God alone, and thinking that all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer solely  to the Bible; when these references really mean going to God directly and listening to the Word of God  personally still speaking to you.
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Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat 4:4

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The gifts of the Holy Spirit  ” There is a river of the Holy Spirit that comes from God whose streams makes glad “believers” and fills them with joy and peace. As a result this river gives them joy and gladness, thanksgiving and the voice of melody. Yes, Joy and gladness are the trade marks of being filled with the power of the Holy Spirit. Christianity is not only to be understood with our hearts and minds and appreciated for its many miracles, signs and wonders but it’s to be experienced through the moving of the Holy Spirit. ” John 16:7 “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.”

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“I believe that one of the biggest reasons that the body of Christ hasn’t made a greater impact on our generation today is because of our failure to operate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Without a doubt, Jesus and the first apostles used the gifts like a bell, calling men to their message and confirming that God was truly the One speaking through them”. Andrew Wommack

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Hebrews 2:3-4 says, “How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?” The Lord bore witness to the accuracy of their message through miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit.

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In Mark 16:17-18, Jesus said all true believers would flow in the miraculous: “And these signs will follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

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The vast majority of preaching  and Christian living done in the name of the Lord today is still really without the power of the Holy Spirit manifest through the gifts of the Holy Spirit. This was,  is not the way the Lord Jesus Christ had intended it to be.for sure..No one can have an effective life or ministry without the power of God’s Holy Spirit working in him or her. This fact can’t be argued by anyone who truly believes the Bible is God’s Word. The Scriptures are replete with proof that it is “not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the LORD of hosts” (Zech. 4:6). It is  true that the Holy Spirit is still willing to move as in biblical times  then there is no excuse for living lives so far removed from that great  victory portrayed in God’s Word.

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If a Christian’s life isn’t full of the personal supernatural, it’s a pretentious one rather. Now  the gifts of the Holy Spirit are always flowing.as  God doesn’t turn them “on” and “off.” We are the ones who turn them  “on” or “off.”   The Lord Jesus Christ  is always ready to flow through us in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. No one has received everything that the Holy Spirit has for them. Therefore, the Lord is always seeking to release more to us through His supernatural gifts. Whenever we put ourselves in a mode to be His channel, His gifts will flow

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Most  churches have fallen away from ministering in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The gifts that operate even in in most “Spirit-filled” churches are simply words of exhortation or prophecy. There is much more even here . that should be manifested.

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1 Corinthians 12:31, “But covet earnestly the best gifts.”

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1 Corinthians 14:1, “Desire spiritual gifts.”

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You do also still  have to seek these gifts with all your heart (Jer. 29:13).  Thus that  also includes the nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit and  the Spirit of Truth, Holiness, Wisdom, of the Fear of the Lord, of Counsel, Spirit of Grace and the Spirit of Knowledge.

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There are nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit. “For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing(s) by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:” (1Corinthians 12:8-10)

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There are still nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit today even.  So seek after and learn to sue them all, The nine Gifts are often separated into three groups.

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The first group is commonly referred to as the Power Gifts.  They are called the Power Gifts because they DO something.  They are:  The Gift of Faith, the Gifts of Healings and the Working of Miracles.

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The second group is commonly referred to as the Revelation Gifts.  These are Gifts that REVEAL something.  They are:  The Word of Wisdom, the Word of Knowledge and the Discerning of Spirits.

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The third group is commonly referred to as the Utterance Gifts.  This is because they SAY something.  They are:  The Gift of Prophecy, the Gift of Tongues and the Gift of Interpretation of Tongues.

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Of course you can expect the devil and his followers to try to mislead you, distract you, turn you away from your seeking.. just perish on forward in it.The truth is that denial of the Holy Spirit’s  ministry and power of the Holy Spirit is the devil’s  theology along with his other lies now too such as that alcoholics are not responsible for their actions, depression is a chemical imbalance, abortion is ok, and homosexuality is genetic.

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The false death of the Full Gospel in North America  ” SO WHEN AND WHY DID FULL GOSPEL DIE IN NORTH AMERICA? When sin killed it..

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Yeshua is JEWISH crap

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Yeshua is  JEWISH crap… “Why do most Jews, Messianic  Jews  reject Jesus?”  The Answer: What   do they do with Jesus Christ?   These Jews rejected Jesus Christ  because He failed, in their eyes, to do what they expected their version of the Messiah to do—destroy evil and all their enemies and establish an eternal kingdom with Israel as the preeminent nation of  the world. Dream on..
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One of the saddest stories in the Bible is the story of the Jews rejecting their own Messiah. After spending millennia desperately waiting and anticipating His arrival, most Jews didn’t want   Him. They rejected what he taught, now stood for. While Jesus taught a  strict form of  partial Judaism, enforcing narrow divorce laws there were a few teachings, however, that devout Jews found hard to swallow. The first was that He could forgive sins. Jews believe the forgiveness of sins is a much more involved process than one man’s word. They also believe that if sins are forgiven so easily, it will only lead to more sin. Secondly, Jesus’ teaching to love our enemies and pray for them. This is anathema to the long-suffering Jews who have been persecuted so harshly by so many. It also sounds contradictory to laws in the Old Testament, such as Deuteronomy 17:7, which says to purge evil “from your midst.” The disconnect was that it is good and appropriate for a nation to have and enforce  good laws, and to go to war for just causes but Jesus taught that our own dealings should be filled with grace and mercy.
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Jews also do not accept Jesus’ teaching that He is the only way to God. With a religious system based on restitution and sincere repentance, Jews have no need of an intermediary to reach God. They reject the need  of forgiveness and salvation since they have theory own religion and they also still do not believe mankind has a sin nature, they do not believe any reasonable, attentive person can sin so much that  they cannot find forgiveness through their own effort. Their pride in their strict adherence to the law of the Old Testament blinded them to Who Jesus is. Paul says in Romans 9:30-32: What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone.
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There are no New Testament promises of any future blessings  for Jerusalem, or Israel but only some of them   will come to accept Jesus as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10).
GOOD” people and Good  Jews included unlike the mostly bad Jews they do NOT murder children or other helpless human beings, Good people do not LIE – ESPECIALLY in matters that will cause untold misery death and destruction. Good people do not promote homosexual perversion – infanticide – pornography – white slavery – racism – blasphemy – mockery of our Lord Christ – indulge in usury – commit treason – rejoice in the suffering of their victims – support universally evil ideologies such as Marxism – profit at the expense of the misery of others – promote the destruction of Christian belief – commit genocide – commit MONUMENTAL hypocrisy – purposefully deceive others – engage in ‘selective’ censorship – LITERALLY worship money – torture helpless human beings – excel at miserliness and greed – exalt themselves above God – routinely break the Ten Commandments with NO remorse. As the reader can plainly see
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Jesus undeniably is but an object of strong hate and derision to most  Jews.
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Worshiping Israel, Jerusalem, It’s and , it’s people, it’s leaders, Jews,  the Old Testament is still an unacceptable sin to God.

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Stephen regarding Solomon’s temple , the Jerusalem temple he said, “However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men.” (Acts 7:48) and he quoted from Isaiah 66 to support his point.

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/the-sin-of-worshipping-the-land-of-israel-jews/

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The city Babylon described in Revelation is Jerusalem  which is called “Mystery Babylon.” The prophecy of Mystery Babylon is found in Revelation 17:3-5. “So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”

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Verse 18 of the chapter tells us that the woman is a city. “And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” In verse 1, we are told that the woman sits on many waters. Verse 15 explains the meaning of the waters. “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” Not only is this woman a city, but the city is apparently the headquarters over a vast international commerce, financial, political system. The Angel’s warning was that God’s people might hear His voice saying: “Come out of her, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Rev. 18:4.

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In Revelation 17:18, John sadly makes it clear that the “whore of Babylon” was the ancient capital city of Israel, Jerusalem. The Romans destroyed the city entirely in 70 AD An angel announces that the fall of Babylon is imminent, and warns the faithful to depart the city to escape the destruction. Those who have profited from their relationship with Babylon lament her passing. Do see Jesus own parallel words

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Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

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The Bible is very clear in telling us that when the anitchist is finally revealed to the Jews and the world for what he really is, it will be in the future Jerusalem . The harlot is Jerusalem, and their international bankers and the people who represent the rulers of the city, the Pharisees, religious leaders, money changers, and modern day equivalents who rule the kings of the earth.

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In Old Testament prophecy, cities like Jerusalem are spoken of as women, and usually in less than flattering terms when the Lord God is angry with them:

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“Zion spreadeth forth her hands, and there is none to comfort her: the LORD hath commanded concerning Jacob, that his adversaries should be round about him: Jerusalem is as a menstruous woman among them.” (Lamentations 1:17 KJV)

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Yes, Rome is a city that sits on seven hills, but so does the cities of Istanbul, Turkey (formerly Constantinople) and Jerusalem (and for that matter, so does Cincinnati, Ohio). HOWEVER, Jerusalem is specifically referred to as the “great city” in the book of Revelation, not Rome..

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“And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.” (Revelation 11:8 KJV)

…and is proclaimed by the Scriptures to be the true whore of Babylon:

“And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.” (Revelation 16:19 KJV)

“And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Revelation 17:5 KJV)

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The Bible tells us that Jerusalem, not Rome, is the true “whore” of Revelation. In the future Jerusalem, the City of Peace will be the city of a great false peace. It will be a center of power much like ancient Babylon and will once again go a whoring as she did so many times in Old Testament days. At this future time Israel will have abandoned its current democratic form of government and will once again be a theocratic monarchy, ruled by kings and ruling with the kings of the earth. Now, I know that you may find this to be shocking and hard to believe. After all, we all think of Jerusalem as the heart of the holy land and the place where the Lord Jesus Christ will someday reign (and He will), but not before He avenges Himself on the city that rejected the Lamb of God and nailed Him to a tree outside the city walls.

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How do we know for sure that Jerusalem is the “woman” spoken of? Consider this undeniable truth: In the Bible God says that Babylon, the mother of harlots, is responsible for shedding specific holy blood:

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“And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.” (Revelation 18:24 KJV)

And the only city on the face of the Earth that meets those criteria, according to the Bible, is the city of Jerusalem:

“Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.” (Luke 13:33 KJV)

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And that is the verse of Scripture that nails the woman’s identity. Jesus Himself said this. And Jesus, who was also a prophet, was slain at Jerusalem. In fact, search your Bible and you will find that EVERY true prophet of the Lord God who perished did so at Jerusalem.

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! (Luke 13:34 KJV)

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The Pharisees of Jerusalem killed Stephen who was the first of “the martyrs of Jesus”. Any other interpretation of who the woman is, if it does not include the Jewish religious leaders in the time of Jesus, including the Jewish religious leaders who killed the Old Testament prophets (Rev 18:24), is therefore incorrect.

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Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

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Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

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Stephen, the first Christian martyr, fingers the council at Jerusalem as the murderers of the prophets, and they were so angry they killed Stephen, too:

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Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

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Jesus speaks harsh words to the leaders of Jerusalem, saying they are worse than harlots, and also says that “Jeursalem kills the prophets”:
Mat 21:31 “…Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

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Mat 21:32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

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Mat 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

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Mat 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

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Mat 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

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Mat 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

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Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

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Mat 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

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Mat 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

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Mat 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

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Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

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Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

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The woman also drinks the cup of wrath.

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Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

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Isai 51:17 Rouse yourself! Rouse yourself! Arise, O Jerusalem, You who have drunk from the Lord’s hand the cup of His anger; The chalice of reeling you have drained to the dregs.

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Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

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Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

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The kings of the earth (the horns of the beast) (Rev 17:12), who the woman rules (Rev 17:18), will turn on the woman and destroy her. Ezekiel, in chapter 16, and Jeremiah chapter 4, say the same thing about Jerusalem and Israel.

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Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

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Eze 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

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Eze 16:2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, …

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Eze 16:37 Behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness.

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Eze 16:38 And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy.

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Eze 16:39 And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee naked and bare.

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Eze 16:40 They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords.

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Eze 16:41 And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and execute judgments upon thee in the sight of many women: and I will cause thee to cease from playing the harlot, and thou also shalt give no hire any more.

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Jer 4:1 If thou wilt return, O Israel, saith the LORD, return unto me: and if thou wilt put away thine abominations out of my sight, then shalt thou not remove. …

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Jer 4:30 And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.

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Jer 4:31 For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hands, saying, Woe is me now! for my soul is wearied because of murderers.

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Apostle Peter uses the word “Babylon” to describe Jerusalem, where he lived, in a greeting at the end of his first epistle.

1 Peter 5:13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

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Peter was in Jerusalem, writing from Jerusalem, living with his son Marcus in Jerusalem, not Babylon.

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Galatians 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

At the time Peter wrote 1 Peter, the literal city of Old Babylon was in ruins, and uninhabited. Therefore, “babylon” was a name for Jerusalem.

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/babylon-the-great-the-mother-of-harlots/
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The Lord Jesus Christ warned His followers, “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves (Matt. 7:15). The warning was important because Jesus later said to them: “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; therefore be shrewd as serpents, and innocent as doves” (Matt. 10:16). The apostle Paul, with a deeply troubled spirit and in tears, penned a similar warning: “I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock” (Acts 20:29).
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Without ANY doubt the vast majority of those termed ‘JEWS’ are ALL guilty of most if not ALL of these crimes against man and God. To confuse matters even more – there are Jews who consider themselves as ‘converts to Christianity’ yet are in reality the greatest enemies of Christian belief imaginable. They call themselves MESSIANIC JEWS
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Real Christianity is a tough road to follow and the ‘gate’ is straight and narrow. A  real TRUE Christian,  a rare commodity in today’s morally bankrupt world,  is a good person and does not do bad things
https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/why-do-most-jews-messianic-jews-reject-jesus-choose-yeshua-instead/
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Jesus Christ is the God of Christianity, of all real Christians.  Jesus himself had began a New Religion Called Christianity . Jesus came to earth and began a new religion, separate from Judaism that he first introduced to the Jewish people. But the Jews have   rejected Jesus and his new religion. and anyone who wasn’t Jewish was a Christian or a Gentile. A Jewish identity meant one thing: Jews don’t believe in Jesus.  Jewish leaders, at the time of Jesus in Jerusalem,  in addition to the Jewish shouted , “Crucify Him! Crucify Him!  and thus had killed  Jesus. When Jewish People embrace Yeshua, they don’t convert to Christianity and not the real Jesus Christ. They remain Jews and do not become Christians. All, even the Jewish People do need to convert to Christianity; In John 8:58, Jesus Christ  actually declared not only His pre-existence but also took upon Himself the name of God as revealed to Moses in the burning bush: “Amen, amen I tell you, before Abraham was born, I am.” Jesus nor his disciples  lived and died as   observant Jews in Israel.
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Is the Christian movement that goes by the name “Messianic Judaism” a form of Judaism? In essence, so-called “Messianic Jewish” groups claim that they represent a “completed form of Judaism” or “completed form of Jewishness” or “Biblical Judaism.” In actuality, self-styled “Messianic Judaism” is a counterfeit form of Christianity that follows the  rabbinic Judaism. There are radical differences between Judaism and Christianity. Traditional Christianity depicts  Judaism as an incomplete religion because it does not include a sole  belief in Jesus. Judaism is not and has never been an incomplete form of Christianity. Judaism   is a different religion from that of the Christian ones that have developed over the last two thousand years; including the Christian movement that goes by the name “Messianic Judaism.” Any attempt to artificially blend the two is deceitful, demonic, erroneous.
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What makes Christianity Christian is its belief in “Jesus Christ: Son of God, God incarnate.” The early Christians replaced Torah with Jesus as the access to God; soon forgiveness of sin was said to be possible only through belief in Jesus. Theological reflection on the significance of Jesus ultimately led to the doctrine of the Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.  The Jewish Identity of Jesus Is Meaningless to non Jews, Gentiles, Christians. Messianic Jewish movement” have often presented a confused and contradictory theology. All present-day Christian denominations and sects are theological offshoots of the first century mostly ex gentile churches that had developed separate and distinct from first century Jewish groups . Since the first century, Christianity has been at odds with most of rabbinic interpretation. belief of the Gentile church for the  Torah is irrelevant to salvation has became the dominant doctrine in the New Testament all Christianity.  The Christian community was distinguished from Jewish Christians   by its lack of traditional Jewish practice.
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Judaism and Christianity are entirely different and essentially unrelated religions.  Judaism and Christianity are entirely different and essentially unrelated religions. The two religions bear different messages and distinctive meanings, each for its own faithful. The Christian concept of God is not the Jewish concept of God; in essence, their God is not our God. One cannot replace Torah with Jesus and still have a reason for Judaism or truthfully call the new entity “a form of Judaism.” The respective adherents to Judaism and Christianity are part of distinct and separate faith communities.
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Any self-defined Christian today that claims Torah observance is incumbent upon Jewish-born Christians would be considered as heretic by other Christians. Fabricating a counterfeit ritual and cultural milieu, this self-styled “Messianic Jewish movement,” creates a false  illusion of adhering to a  false form of first century Jewish Christianity as practiced by the early Jewish followers of Jesus. The ritual and cultural milieu they depict never existed.
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It is impossible to preserve the cultural aspects of the Jewish people while replacing the spiritual, the theological, and the salvific grounding and reason for that culture with a non-Jewish faith system. Jewish religious life finds its theological and spiritual meaning through the life of Torah, not through the death and resurrection of Jesus.  There is a common understanding among Jews of all denominations that Judaism, understood as the culture and religion of the Jewish people, contains all they need to achieve spiritual fulfillment, that is, salvation. Anyone who is not a real Christian still ends up in hell
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One of the saddest stories in the Bible is the story of the Jews rejecting their own Messiah. After spending millennia desperately waiting and anticipating His arrival, most Jews didn’t want   Him. They rejected what he taught, now stood for. While Jesus taught a  strict form of  partial Judaism, enforcing narrow divorce laws there were a few teachings, however, that devout Jews found hard to swallow. The first was that He could forgive sins. Jews believe the forgiveness of sins is a much more involved process than one man’s word. They also believe that if sins are forgiven so easily, it will only lead to more sin. Secondly, Jesus’ teaching to love our enemies and pray for them. This is anathema to the long-suffering Jews who have been persecuted so harshly by so many. It also sounds contradictory to laws in the Old Testament, such as Deuteronomy 17:7, which says to purge evil “from your midst.” The disconnect was that it is good and appropriate for a nation to have and enforce  good laws, and to go to war for just causes but Jesus taught that our own dealings should be filled with grace and mercy.
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Jews also do not accept Jesus’ teaching that He is the only way to God. With a religious system based on restitution and sincere repentance, Jews have no need of an intermediary to reach God. They reject the need  of forgiveness and salvation since they have theory own religion and they also still do not believe mankind has a sin nature, they do not believe any reasonable, attentive person can sin so much that  they cannot find forgiveness through their own effort. Their pride in their strict adherence to the law of the Old Testament blinded them to Who Jesus is. Paul says in Romans 9:30-32: What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone.
There are no New Testament promises of any future blessings  for Jerusalem, or Israel but only some of them y will come to accept Jesus as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10).
All real Christians differ in many ways  from Messianic Jews  including history, beliefs, dress, and practice.  Messianic Judaism itself  is a relatively new phenomenon. Jews falsely still do believe that an anti-Semitic view of the Messiah’s life and death is a main theology in Christian Europe for thousands of years. …  yet the New Testament teaches that there is no distinction between Jews and Gentiles:  26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26-28)
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Messianic Jews Tend to Use false Jewish Symbols the Christian Does Not use. And there is not evidence that any of the early Christians they attempted to look and dress like Jewish rabbis as many male Messianic Jews do. The New Testament demonstrates the apostles did not appear to look like Jewish rabbis or Levitical priests. When, for one example, the Apostle Paul was arrested, the authorities did not recognize him as a Jew, but thought he was an Egyptian (Acts 21:37-38). Paul had to tell the military commander he was a Jew (Acts 27:39). Thus, Paul did not look like a Jewish rabbi, nor was he apparently wearing distinguishing phylacteries or tzitzits as the Messianic Jews do.  Christian males are not to have their heads covered when the pray:  4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. . . 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. (1 Corinthians 11:4,7)  Many Messianic Jews do pray with their heads covered. Messianic Jews tend focus on improper aspects of outward appearances and traditions of Judaism.
https://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2016/03/27/mesianic-jews-are-not-christian/
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Slander is  WHAT I  expect from Jews in denial to the truth. who falsely object to the truth being displayed ..  The all-powerful “anti-Semitism” card has again been played with the force of a blunt object; a false attempt to suppress the truth and free speech..; It seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely distorted as being anti-Semitism again. And so is the New Testament, Christians, the apostles, and Jesus Christ now as well..  the spin doctors in Israel,  the Jewish supporters are hard at work justifying all of their actions, the good and the bad ones. Some they even falsely manage  to paint supporters of Israel as moderates and all others as being anti-Semites, and many Jews  still are often are deflecting attention away from Israeli injustices against the Palestinians    but still the Criticism of Israel is not an anti-Semitic act;
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Clearly just  because some thing someone writes offends someone else does not mean firstly that it is even “hate”, immediately prosecutable by law, the courts or the Human Rights Commission. There is still a separation between appropriate speech and inappropriate speech, a separation between freedom of speech, expressing one’s views, opinions and the delivered, deliberate conscious propagation of hatred towards a specific group or person.; As to the too often slanders, lies, personal attacks being made by the Jewish supporters on others when they do not like the Biblical facts being presented they are still trouble makers it seems.; Accusing detractors of Israeli policies of anti-Semitism is, at its core, childish –  Job 15:31 KJV)  Let not him that is deceived trust in vanity: for vanity shall be his recompense.; Jews  included now.. , They the Jews still really cannot face the reality there are things in their life that need serious, drastic changes. These people in denial are the ones who often need professional help for their own short comings, sickness. Jews  included now.. , Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about their own unacceptable acts. These People in the state of false denials, clearly also who lie often, they do now also tend to have severe personal, mental disorders next even cause one tends to eventually believe next ones own lies as being the truth, and they can no longer differentiate their own lies from reality, the truth. By their false denials Who is fooling whom? Jews  included now.. .
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The sad reality is abusers rarely change unless they are made personally to face some severe negative consequences, and the older they are the more severe it seems it has to be.
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In the whole new Testament   clearly the Jews, Israel that THEY are defined now still as being cursed.. and only all the Christians all blessed in Jesus instead..Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context.  We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so. I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. “
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GOD NOT ONLY KICKED THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL IN 70 AD.. BUT BECAUSE OF JESUS CHRIST HE CHANGED THE WORLD’S CALENDAR, PROCLAIMING HIS NEW ERA  AND  TODAY IS 2012 AD, AFTER THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST  .
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The name for Jesus Yeshua. Note Yeshua is not found at all in and the old or new testament. and as per the early Church being all Jews.. statement made by liars, not true, to be a Jew is to be a non Christian but the early church was Christian, and there were no more Jews or gentiles there in.. read the New Testament and anger against Jewish liars is normal…. You are an antichrist who tries to make Christians into Jews and will go to hell with anyone who claims to be a Jew.. Jews still will always be far from any right to the promise land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS, even the blood shed of many others that they have killed from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.    https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/
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The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone!  “Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.”  Even the Messianic Jews are falsely as antagonistic to Christianity as traditional Jews are. For Messianic Jews to respond with such a level of disdain brings to mind the words of Paul, “You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans?” And, “If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.” The Messianic Judaism  is now falsely  obsessed with taking over from both religions, especially Christianity. Messianic Judaism is no longer  a proper conduit especially suitable for spreading spiritual  Christian truth precisely because it has not obtained the status of either Non-Messianic Judaism or real Christianity. Judaism and Messianic Judaism are both embroiled in religious politics and the insatiable desire for wealth and power. Messianic Jews seem to want to wrest power and resources away from Christianity and be corrupted by the same influences that have so greatly hindered Christianity’s effectiveness.
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If Messianic Jews truly believe in what they practice, what does it matter if Christians, Jews, atheists, or anyone else criticizes them?  Instead of worrying about Jewish acceptance, Messianic Jews should occupy themselves with knowing God and being accepted by Him. Instead of falsely  battling Christians, Messianic Jews should seek to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind”[3] and “Love your neighbor as yourself,” for “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Messianic Jews should work on growing spiritually and building each other up, that they may glorify the Lord. “And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.” Instead of their falsely focusing on proving to Christians that the Torah is still in effect.. “Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love.” Become real Christians not merely still  pretenders, imposters, wolves in sheep clothing. AND WHEN YOU DO NOT DO WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO THESE SAME RATHER LITTLE BAD CHILDREN INSULT YOU, SLANDER YOU, DIVORCE YOU, OSTRACIZE YOU, BAD MOUTH YOU.  And does  God still show false partiality? to the Christians? or to the Jews? Arabs? NO.. they all will reap what they sow, had sowed on this earth as well as here after.
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It was Christ who said, “You will know them by their fruits.” And Christ went on to say, “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord.” shall even enter the kingdom of heaven next.”” Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven.” Which includes manifesting the fruit of the holy Spirit.
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But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, … In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, {constantly} nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following (1 Tim. 4:1,6).
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.— 1 John 4:1
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Accusation of the true Believers: One of most despicable method of demon attack is reserved entirely for believers. Satan, and his followers , engages in includes accusing them before to God. and men.. something Jews clearly do  not hesitate to do.. but they still does not like me judging the others.  Accusation of personal wrong doing is often a false tool carried out by some others to try to make you to be subject to them, a form of slavery, a sad approach..
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Not surprisingly many prideful people try to take the place of God in my  life too, AND these imposters claim even that they have been chosen, designated by God to command over me, THAT  I am required into forced submission to their whims, desires , commands. But funny God now himself has not revealed those facts as well to me BUT  only to them. I put my trust in God and not in man.. AND WHEN YOU DO NOT DO WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO THESE SAME RATHER LITTLE BAD CHILDREN INSULT YOU, SLANDER YOU, DIVORCE YOU, OSTRACIZE YOU, BAD MOUTH YOU.
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Many ungodly persons, Jews and Jew lovers  who cannot handle the truth tend to behave next like a kid, bully.. and   all they can do  in response is to call people names.. such as Hitler, Jew Hater, and they do  show to all what they  are  like.. they  are   falsely in denial, cannot face the reality, truth so they have to  make a false personal attack on others instead of being factual, coherent.. this is normal behavior of the immoral persons too. By their false denials  the Jews Who is fooling whom?
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Many people have their own false images, scenarios, and so they do falsely refuse to see the truth of what is going on and in denial to the truth, these people they next even do falsely say or do anything, they  lies, slander included and make false personal attacks.. these people are the ones who need help
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These are the same  people in Denial who really do delude themselves too THAT THEY ARE NOT LIARS, as they lie and say I am not guilty, the facts are untrue, this is absurd, crazy nuts, as too often they still cannot deny the reality especially after they are exposed
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Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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There are so many childish, unloving, dogmatic, slanderous person, arrogant, pretend persons who take one view and now falsely do try to push it down other people’s throats, and they do falsely believe they are better than other persons now cause they have hold their view.. Now if you do not agree with them, dare to oppose them they will go crazy on you. calling you slanderous names, insulting you, falsely attacking you personally, trying to attack you as being immoral, demonic, an antichrist or what ever as they are in false denial to the real truth and why? their pride will not let them admit they have been deceivers and have been deceived.. .. these bad persons they really should not even be on the net preaching to others till they get
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When you oppose and criticize openly some of these very the bad persons one  especially a Jew next still tends to get a false denial, a remark in response like you are crazy, you need professional help. They still really cannot face the reality there are things in their life that need serious, drastic changes. These people in denial are the ones who often need professional help for their own short comings, sickness. Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about their own unacceptable acts. These People in the state of false denials, clearly also who lie often, they do now also tend to have severe personal, mental disorders next even cause one tends to eventually believe next ones own lies as being the truth, and they can no longer differentiate their own lies from reality, the truth. By their false denials Who is fooling whom? You cannot fool all the people all the time and now matter how smart you are there is still someone more wiser who can see the truth still too..
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Most of these people with their personality disorders may not perceive that there is anything wrong with their behavior and thus they are not motivated to change it. It is important to note that these personality disorders are considered to have their onset in late adolescence or early adulthood and they alone are responsible for it too.
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Again false Denial, it is very very common when many an individual are openly confronted with the truth they do not like so that they resort to a false denial. When confronted with the truth the denier they often respond with a similar personal counter attack remark as ”you are crazy”. “I reject your reality… and substitute my own.” Their false denial, diversion, distortion does not change the negative reality about themselves still though. Sadly it is a negative natural human tendency to devolve into denial.” It’s not just a moral compass that’s lacking, but the ability to honest, or to stand apart. Denial often comes out of a false pride, a fear of being openly exposed as being wrong. Denial is a false convenient escape, excuse for inaction for persons now facing a situation that requires a decision or action that conflicts with his or her established past policy.
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Denial too often can be further disastrous upon themselves and others.. for denial is not seeing data at all or seeing it and coming to an erroneous conclusion within oneself. One’s false denial is often based on their own severe personal failure next due to a personal disconnect with real life. Illustrated fully by the story of the Emperor with new clothes.
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False Denial (also called abnegation) is a often defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and  rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence, a mechanism of the immature mind that conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. The subject may now deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimization) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference). The concept of denial is particularly related to the denial of one’s addiction to alcohol for example, or to one slandering others, abusing them stealing, lying.. their denial or their minimization of their own wrong doings is the essential part of what enables them next to to continue his or her behavior in the face of evidence that, to an outsider, that is overwhelming. “The American Heart Association cites denial as a principal reason that treatment of a heart attack is delayed. Because the symptoms are so varied, and often have other potential explanations, the opportunity exists for the patient to deny the emergency, often with fatal consequences. It is common for patients to delay mammograms or other tests because of a fear of cancer, even though this is clearly maladaptive.”
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Types of Denial include now
Denial of fact: This form of denial is where someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leavingout certain details in order to tailor a story (omission), This form of
denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by blaming, minimizing orjustifying.
Denial of responsibility: Denial of impact: avoiding thinking about orunderstanding the harms their behavior have caused to themselves or others.Denial of awareness: they do not admit any previous awareness of the
negative reality.
Denial of cycle: Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at theirdecisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern ofdecision making and how harmful behavior is repeated.
Denial of denial: This latter form of denial typically overlaps with all ofthe other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion.
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Even most Jewish People in a false denial are really nuts, delusional..
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I do not deny that Israel was once, in the past chosen by God from all the peoples of the world to be the focus of special blessing in the history of redemption which climaxed in Jesus Christ, the Messiah. “The LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth” (Deuteronomy 7:6). But Christians now alone are the chosen People
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Nor do I deny that God promised to Israel the presently disputed land from the time of Abraham onward. God said to Moses, “This is the land of which I swore to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, ‘I will give it to your offspring’” (Deuteronomy 34:4).  But neither of these Biblical facts leads necessarily to the endorsement of present-day Israel as the rightful possessor of all the disputed land. Israel may have such a right but now she does not. As  that decision is not based on divine privilege.
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I  also do not  believe rightfully that Israel today is the fulfillment of Scriptural prophecy, because the Lord promised to restore Israel in righteousness (Hosea 10:12). Israel went into spiritual adultery, idolatry. God raised up Hosea to pronounce judgment on them. All we are seeing in the Middle East today is hatred, war killings and a deadlock concerning the location of the temple mount (whom Muslims now control).   The Jews are at the Weeping Wall today; that’s as far as they’ve got. Jews today are still not looking for their Redeemer, the Messiah, Jesus Christ. Sadly, Judaism still denies Christ as do the Muslims and many others.
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Israel today is based much on the stolen land from others.. When the Government of Israel committed    human rights violations, the Old testament prophets openly condemned them, 2 Kings 6:21 –23, 2 Chronicles 28:9-11, Nehemiah 5:7-11, Jeremiah 34:11-17, Amos 2:6-7, etc.
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Judaism itself is dead to God after they had killed their Messiah Jesus Christ..
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Thus says the Lord God of Israel: You shed blood, yet you would keep possession on the land? You rely on your sword, you do abominable things… yet you would keep possession of the land?… I will make the land a desolate waste, and her proud strength will come to an end. (Ezekiel 33:25-29) On the basis of such sober warnings is it not more likely that Israel will experience an imminent exile rather than restoration? The tension between Christians who call for the implementation of international law and Zionists is no where more clearly polarized than on the issue of the status of Jerusalem.
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“Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.”  Even the Messianic Jews are falsely as antagonistic to Christianity as traditional Jews are. For Messianic Jews to respond with such a level of disdain brings to mind the words of Paul, “You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans?” And, “If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.” The Messianic Judaism  is now falsely  obsessed with taking over from both religions, especially Christianity. Messianic Judaism is no longer  a proper conduit especially suitable for spreading spiritual  Christian truth precisely because it has not obtained the status of either Non-Messianic Judaism or real Christianity. Judaism and Messianic Judaism are both embroiled in religious politics and the insatiable desire for wealth and power. Messianic Jews seem to want to wrest power and resources away from Christianity and be corrupted by the same influences that have so greatly hindered Christianity’s effectiveness. If Messianic Jews truly believe in what they practice, what does it matter if Christians, Jews, atheists, or anyone else criticizes them?  Instead of worrying about Jewish acceptance, Messianic Jews should occupy themselves with knowing God and being accepted by Him. Instead of falsely  battling Christians, Messianic Jews should seek to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind”[3] and “Love your neighbor as yourself,” for “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Messianic Jews should work on growing spiritually and building each other up, that they may glorify the Lord. “And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.” Instead of their falsely focusing on proving to Christians that the Torah is still in effect.. “Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love.” Become real Christians not merely still  pretenders, imposters, wolves in sheep clothing.
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  And does  God still show false partiality? to the Christians? or to the Jews? Arabs? NO.. they all will reap what they sow, had sowed on this earth as well as here after. Reality
Heaven awaits th.e Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND
http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/
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It should be evident to any Bible reader that everything the Jews did was not God sanctioned even as chosen ones not even the Wars between the Jews and/or the Babylonians, Romans: Hate speech today often  means anything the Jews firstly  hate to hear, especially the truth about themselves.. We all have a right to  question even the legitimacy and founding principles of Israel;  to  blame that inculpates the Israeli government and army at every  wrong turn, even  accusing them of massacre,   of genocide, comparing them to the Nazis and Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto;  of  willful sadism, of wallowing in slaughter, and  all of those sinister  acts of theirs . This  fair criticism, in  that  the intents, or  proposes , advocates  no physical harm to Jews under any circumstances,  is not to  be confused with anti-Semitism
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NOW WHY WOULD I SPEND SO MUCH TIME TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT JEWS  WELL IT IS BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEMONIC DECEPTION BEING PUT ON THE CHURCH EVEN TODAY.
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The Jews’ Great Revolt against Rome in 66 C.E. led to one of the greatest catastrophes in Jewish life and, in retrospect, clearly also has been a terrible mistake.During the summer of 70, the Romans breached the walls of Jerusalem, and initiated an orgy of violence and destruction. Shortly thereafter, they destroyed the Second Temple. This was the final and most devastating Roman blow against Judea. When people today speak of the almost two-thousand-year span of Jewish homelessness and exile, they are dating it from the failure of this revolt.  It is sad that most Jews will not confront, admit their own evil actions even today. Jewish lies concerning Jesus has continued this whole mess of Jewish hatred; Teaching  this hate by example, practice of it, had still backfired upon all Jews even afterward, as evidenced by the continual historical   persecution of Jews.. The hatred of Jews by the Romans as well has caused  Jerusalem and the Temple Mount to become an abomination of desolation forever The continuing  false Jewish persecution of Christian Jews in the first century birthed their diseased mind and now many other Jews are taught religious hatred towards all Christians.  Jews freely using occult practices now embodied in the Kabbalah, borrowed from Gnosticism and Babylonian influence made the rift even wider between Pharisee Judaism, Jews and the others. Jewish dealings in Christian slaves was another cause of unrest. Martin Luther was an avid supporter of Jews nearly all of his life until in the last few months of his life he was shown a Talmud with all of its blasphemy against Jesus and Christians. Can a Jewish person get away with it, try to hide behind their religion and spew out hate for Jesus and Christians as was done in the  Passover Plot and other Jewish attacks using the arts, stage, movies, etc even today  to accomplish these acts? If the  Jewish person wants to drag up all of history concerning mistreatment and abuse of any Jews  as justification their own false  for continual  hate, could not this same practice be used others as justification for their own disapproval of the many bad acts of the  Jews who do  mistreat  and abuse  others. Are the Christians the only automatic anti-Semites by stating these undeniable facts now too?    God still is and will be the final Judge! Any   Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitic!
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Study and read the Bible also  yourself. The Worship of Jews, Israel, Jeruslame, Ju8daism all a false religions is still not acceptable before God: as it is demonic  Can you be a practicing Jew and also believe that Jesus is the messiah? The   answer is no. And just as many people convert to Judaism, and become Jews, those who convert out of Judaism are no longer Jews.  You are a Messianic Jew? But there really is no such thing in the whole New testament.. all the Jews became Christians..  “Why do most Jews, Messianic  Jews  reject Jesus?”  The Answer: What   do they do with Jesus Christ?   These Jews rejected Jesus Christ  because He failed, in their eyes, to do what they expected their version of the Messiah to do—destroy evil and all their enemies and establish an eternal kingdom with Israel as the preeminent nation of  the world. Dream on..
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That ‘Messianics’  are considered and accepted as Jews is unheard of. A Jew who believes in Jesus as his/her “Lord and Savior” has become a Christian and is no longer a Jew. The so called Christian Jews  that call themselves ‘Messianic Jews’ whose faith is totally alien to the Jewish faith, or Christian faith and members of these groups who were born to Jewish parents have a status of apostates who removed themselves from the Jewish Nation. So long as one remains a Christian, one is no longer a Jew. But if one wishes to return to Judaism, then one is no longer a Christian . The two faiths of Judaism and Christianity are simply mutually exclusive, and they are not compatible. No Jews or non Jews never the less should still continue to observe the Torah after embracing Jesus as their Messiah. The existence of Messianic Jews makes both Jews and mainline Protestants uneasy, if not angry, betrayed as they tend to be really an antichrist, unkind, offensive, full of hatred, bitterness.
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The New Testament teaches that Christians are to focus on the heavenly Jerusalem, not the earthly one, John 4:21, Galatians 4:24-28, Hebrews 12:18-24. We are told in Hebrews 11:13-16 that even Abraham has no further interest in a restored Jewish state on earth, because he is in a much better place in heaven.
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Will any Unsaved Jews Enter the “Future” Promised Land? No, absolutely not. No unsaved Jew will ever enjoy the splendors of the future Promised Land… “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” —Romans 2:28,29
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Clearly, the Word of God teaches that “Jew” in the Bible, as regards all the future promises to Israel, refers ONLY to born-again Christian Jews. It is the circumcision of the inward heart, and not the outward flesh, that makes one a Jew in God’s eyes. No unconverted Jew can ever claim the promise of God concerning Palestine, unless he first BELIEVES on Jesus Christ as his personal Messiah.;   “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” —Galatians 3:29
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The Bible teaches that God’s promises were not made to all Jews; but only to saved Jews…
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“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” —Galatians 3:16
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“So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.” —Galatians 3:9
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How tragic that most Jews today have been blinded by sinful pride and false religion, that they reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah. Only by faith in Jesus Christ can any Jew claim the promise of the future Promised Land. All unbelievers, whether Gentile or Jew, will be cast into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:11-15).;
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Is the Sabbath Day Still Valid Today?  No. The Sabbath was a ceremonial law given only to a specific people (the Jews), during a specific time period (the Old Testament), in a specific region (Palestine). The Sabbath was an object lesson for the Jews, picturing the coming Messiah in Whom believers rest for salvation. When men cease from their self-righteous labors, and rest upon the redeeming blood sacrifice of the Son of God, they are saved (1st Peter 1:18,19). Colossians 2:14-17 plainly teach that the Old Testament ceremonial laws are no longer applicable concerning Christians or Jews… “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17 — Note: All Scriptures are quoted from the trustworthy King James Bible).
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Jesus is our Sabbath today, in Whom we completely rest for salvation. God required the death penalty in the Old Testament for a man who  merely picked up some sticks on the sabbath Day (likely to make a fire). Why did God require the man’s death? It is because picking up sticks represents Human Effort in salvation, which is a road to Hell. The Sabbath represents resting solely in Christ Jesus for salvation. Adding even one work negates, corrupts and cancels God’s free gift of grace. Romans 3:20 warns that no flesh can be justified by the keeping of the Law of God. Salvation is by faith alone!
.Today we honor the “Lord’s Day” on Sunday, the first day of the week, when Jesus rose from the dead; but this is voluntary and not obligatory. It is grace and not law. It was a much better time in America when stores and shops all drew down their shades on Sunday to prevent window shopping. People used to honor the Lord. We’ve lost our nation today because we have forsaken the God of the Bible.;
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I know that the Jews were once  “God’s Chosen People” and the rest of us we still are just whatever… but when Israel behaves like a violent psychopathic bully and someone mentions it that does NOT make them anti-Semitic.  ” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so.
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I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. ”  THEY BOTH FALSELY DO PREACH THEIR VERSION OF THE LETTER OF THE LAW OVER LOVE  YOUR NEIGHBOUR  TOO!  WE NEED TO FIRSTLY ASK THE JEWS TO REPENT OF ALL THEIR WRONG DOINGS, OF NOW TRYING TO RECONQUEST THE PROMISED LAND, EVEN STILL NOW, IN THE FLESH., RATHER THEY ARE  STILL RETURN TO JESUS CAUSE THEY THE JEWS ARE ALL STILL ALL GOING TO HELL EVEN IF THEY NOW ARE LIVING IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL  FOR WITHOUT JESUS TODAY AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR EVERYONE, THE JEWS INCLUDED THEY GOES TO HELL..
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Now natural Israel has no longer any standing before God, or any part in His future purposes. The New Testament Scriptures makes it now  certain that the national restoration of Israel after the flesh is not a part of the revealed will of God, but that the reverse is true. God regards natural Israel  earthly kingdom with utter detestation, and He will never restore it, Next when John the Baptist preached to the Jewish people, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” he was not announcing the setting up again of the earthly throne of David for Israel as many Jews, some professing Christians  falsely hoped, believe it would happen again.
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Even Heaven awaits the Jewish return TO God, Jesus Christ, and rather NOT TO THE PROMISED EARTHLY LAND BUT TO THE NEW HEAVENLY Jerusalem.. (Rev 3:12 KJV)  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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.COUNT ON IT WRITE ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE JEWS, ISRAEL AND SOME WILL SLANDER YOU IMMEDIATELY AND CALL YOU A LIAR, TERRORISTS OR ANTI SEMITE.
Traditionally Christians now for thousands of years did not consider Zionism in any form Christian … The idea that Christians  should  actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along or any Christian advocacy of the restoration of the Jews is not supported by the New Testament at all.. nor is the concept that the Jews will one day rule the world..
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Now any one who looks at the subject of prophecy, a real genuine Bible student knows that too many Jews ,who can only use the old testament, and there is almost no new testament substantiation for it, still the Jews,  and many others have wrongfully now Distorted Biblical Prophecy Interpretation after the time of Jesus Christ to suit their false Jewish’s ends, a Jewish purpose, for they like Judas they betray Jesus Christ by these acts for Jesus next made it clear the second Jewish Kingdom of God was not in this world..  (John 18:36 KJV)  Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
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And the  false Jewish supporters can solely refer to the Old Testament verses now such as Jeremiah Chapter 31, Joel 3:2, Amos 9:15 and Psalm 83: for they undeniably have no New Testament substantiations, support for Israel’s return or possession now of the past promised land.
.THE PROPHET MOSES HIMSELF WAS NOW DENIED ENTRANCE TO THE PROMISED LAND FOR HIS OWN SIN OF DISOBEDIENCE NOW EVEN IN STRIKING THE ROCK TWICE INSTEAD OF ONCE AS HE WAS COMMANDED BY GOD TO DO SO. Next SO IS THE VALID, LEGITIMATE PRESENT ENTRANCE OF THE JEWS TO THE PROMISED LAND NOW ALSO BEING DENIED BY GOD FOR THEIR OWN LACK OF FULL OBEDIENCE TO ALL OF GOD’S COMMANDMENTS, HIS WORDS TO THEM..
Jews still have no special route to heaven that gentiles do not have. Christendom from the start places emphasis on correct belief (or orthodoxy), focusing on the New Covenant that the Christian Triune  God made through Jesus Christ, as recorded in the New Testament.
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(Acts 5:42 KJV) And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.
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(Rom 1:16 KJV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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1 John 2:21  I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it, and because no lie is of the truth. 22   Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. 23   Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.
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I cannot understand how anyone, an English speaking person, holy spirit filled can now even use a Hebrew name for God even Yahwah, Yeshua, in an English Christian church instead of using God’ s revealed, real name which is Jesus Christ, the sole name above all other name.. this is very ungodly of them and there is no place in the Bible that says Jesus is to be called by any other name; YAHWAH is JESUS ! SO SAY SO TOO!
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The Christians in the New Testament have replaced the chosen Jews of the Old Testament in reality NOW TOO. WHAT SOME THEY STILL  CANNOT UNDERSTAND, SEE THIS AND WHY? .. It may surprise you to discover that the New Testament never uses the term ‘chosen’ to describe the Jewish people. It is only used of those who follow Jesus  I  conclude that God never uses the word chosen to refer to Israel and the reference was the new testament..  but that is not the same as the old testament.. the Bible is composed of both books or what you do not know this?
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The only main portion of the Bible that you really need to read, to follow  is the New Testament because we are no longer under Old Testament covenant, law  –  essentially the New Covenant, the New Testament replaces the basic requirements of the  Old Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament.  All Believers should still embrace the whole Word of God is written by God but now they do not follow the non applicable Old Testament laws, rituals. The Old Testament has now been superseded by the New Testament. We are not under the Old Testament laws but under those laws  solely in the new testament… the law of the spirit..(Rom 8:2 KJV)  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
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Old Israel being God’s people for they still will go to hell LIKE MANY PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WILL if they personally reject Christ and do not continue to follow after him. (Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Rom 2:9 KJV) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
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Removing the beam from one’s own eye seems to be an impossible task for too many blind still  JEWISH persons..
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The sole basis of the Christian faith today, which is why it is also called the New Testament as well, is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New Testament Jesus. The true Christians since Jesus Christ next always left their old Jewish Synagogues all together… and all Christian Jews, Messianic Jews too need to do this today as well, also they are supposed to give up their Jewish roots, Jewish culture, Jewish religion when they accept Jesus Christ as their master, lord and savior . Some clerics, theologians, and scholars have worked hard to recover the supposedly historical Jewish Jesus. why? Ironically this rather was aided also by the Jews, Judiazers, even the false Christians themselves who falsely wanted it seems to promote their own self importance, the false value of the now rather false, obsolete old Judaic religion, and it’s also still the false observation of the Old testament letter of the law over the New Testament spirit of the law approach. It is an ungodly act still too.
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.Titus 1: 14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

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Jesus Christ is the God of Christianity, of all real Christians.  Jesus himself had began a New Religion Called Christianity . Jesus came to earth and began a new religion, separate from Judaism that he first introduced to the Jewish people. But the Jews have   rejected Jesus and his new religion. and anyone who wasn’t Jewish was a Christian or a Gentile. A Jewish identity meant one thing: Jews don’t believe in Jesus.  Jewish leaders, at the time of Jesus in Jerusalem,  in addition to the Jewish shouted , “Crucify Him! Crucify Him!  and thus had killed  Jesus. When Jewish People embrace Yeshua, they don’t convert to Christianity and not the real Jesus Christ. They remain Jews and do not become Christians. All, even the Jewish People do need to convert to Christianity; In John 8:58, Jesus Christ  actually declared not only His pre-existence but also took upon Himself the name of God as revealed to Moses in the burning bush: “Amen, amen I tell you, before Abraham was born, I am.” Jesus nor his disciples  lived and died as   observant Jews in Israel.
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Is the Christian movement that goes by the name “Messianic Judaism” a form of Judaism? In essence, so-called “Messianic Jewish” groups claim that they represent a “completed form of Judaism” or “completed form of Jewishness” or “Biblical Judaism.” In actuality, self-styled “Messianic Judaism” is a counterfeit form of Christianity that follows the  rabbinic Judaism. There are radical differences between Judaism and Christianity. Traditional Christianity depicts  Judaism as an incomplete religion because it does not include a sole  belief in Jesus. Judaism is not and has never been an incomplete form of Christianity. Judaism   is a different religion from that of the Christian ones that have developed over the last two thousand years; including the Christian movement that goes by the name “Messianic Judaism.” Any attempt to artificially blend the two is deceitful, demonic, erroneous.
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What makes Christianity Christian is its belief in “Jesus Christ: Son of God, God incarnate.” The early Christians replaced Torah with Jesus as the access to God; soon forgiveness of sin was said to be possible only through belief in Jesus. Theological reflection on the significance of Jesus ultimately led to the doctrine of the Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.  The Jewish Identity of Jesus Is Meaningless to non Jews, Gentiles, Christians. Messianic Jewish movement” have often presented a confused and contradictory theology. All present-day Christian denominations and sects are theological offshoots of the first century mostly ex gentile churches that had developed separate and distinct from first century Jewish groups . Since the first century, Christianity has been at odds with most of rabbinic interpretation. belief of the Gentile church for the  Torah is irrelevant to salvation has became the dominant doctrine in the New Testament all Christianity.  The Christian community was distinguished from Jewish Christians   by its lack of traditional Jewish practice.
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Judaism and Christianity are entirely different and essentially unrelated religions.  Judaism and Christianity are entirely different and essentially unrelated religions. The two religions bear different messages and distinctive meanings, each for its own faithful. The Christian concept of God is not the Jewish concept of God; in essence, their God is not our God. One cannot replace Torah with Jesus and still have a reason for Judaism or truthfully call the new entity “a form of Judaism.” The respective adherents to Judaism and Christianity are part of distinct and separate faith communities.
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Any self-defined Christian today that claims Torah observance is incumbent upon Jewish-born Christians would be considered as heretic by other Christians. Fabricating a counterfeit ritual and cultural milieu, this self-styled “Messianic Jewish movement,” creates a false  illusion of adhering to a  false form of first century Jewish Christianity as practiced by the early Jewish followers of Jesus. The ritual and cultural milieu they depict never existed.
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It is impossible to preserve the cultural aspects of the Jewish people while replacing the spiritual, the theological, and the salvific grounding and reason for that culture with a non-Jewish faith system. Jewish religious life finds its theological and spiritual meaning through the life of Torah, not through the death and resurrection of Jesus.
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There is a common understanding among Jews of all denominations that Judaism, understood as the culture and religion of the Jewish people, contains all they need to achieve spiritual fulfillment, that is, salvation. Anyone who is not a real Christian still ends up in hell  https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/
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(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. (1 Tim 4:1 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils
https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/christianity-is-not-judaism-and-never-will-be/
see also  https://www.facebook.com/The-lies-of-the-false-Christian-Zionism-Movement-166907416793938/
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Dispensational Hoaxes, lies

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Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. – 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. – 2 Timothy 3:12

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And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and to Iconium, and Antioch, Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. – Acts 14:21-22

I have now personally learned decades and decades ago that most of the Brethren,  Baptists  are liars also deceitful, nasty, abusive and really unacceptably bad.. they falsely are control freaks, who falsely love to practice divorce, even the silent treatment to those who do not  give them what they want..

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/i-have-learned-decades-and-decades-ago-that-the-brethren-are-deceitful/

Pre tribulation Rapture, eternal security, and Jesus coming back to reestablish Israel as a Nation , the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem are all a Hoax, Dispensational lies.  Jesus coming back to reestablish Israel as a Nation gives false hope to the Jews.. It is the anti Christ Yeshua  who is coming for them

Unfortunately, those of us who wish to live holy and righteous lives in Christ, WILL suffer persecution (2 Tim 3:12). When Paul wrote that to Timothy, he wasn’t thinking of the persecution that you and I have experienced – frowns, disapproval and lost jobs. No, he was referring to the persecution that Christians are experiencing right now in the Arab world – such as with ISIS and Boko Haram. The persecution that THEY are experiencing now, is coming for us all too soon. We call it The Great Tribulation, but we would understand it better if we called it The Great Persecution.

However, we have many  who believe in a different story. They believe that we will NOT suffer the persecution of the Antichrist, and  it is because they have put their trust in a lie.

Now what the Bible actually  tells you:

  • The Antichrist must come before the Rapture
  • The Tribulation must come before the Rapture
  • The Sun and Moon Must be Darkened before the Rapture
  • The Lord Must descend from Heaven with a Shout before the Rapture
  • Jesus Must Return before the Rapture
  • The Resurrection must happen just before the Rapture (or, at the same time)
  • There is only one resurrection for those who are God’s people
  • God promised that Christians would suffer
  • There IS a Place of Safety on this Earth

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. – Matthew 24:29-31

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. – Matthew 24:15-22

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. – Matthew 24:21

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

1 Corinthians 15:51-52 “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

Paul declared that when Christ should come, there would be a shout; a voice; a trumpet; the righteous dead would be resurrected, and along with the righteous living, would be caught up from the earth to meet the Lord in the clouds never to part again.

The apostle John reveals that the coming of Jesus to this earth will be as follows:

Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.”

Matthew 24:30-31 “…then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

Christ declared that when He returns the second time, it is not a secret rapture,  it would be with a sign; all people on the earth would see Him coming in the clouds of heaven and with power and great glory; the great majority of all the people of the earth would not be happy, but would mourn; there would be a great sound of a trumpet; and God would gather His obedient elect to Himself from every part of the world.

Did Jesus ask his Father to take us out of the world? Christ Himself prayed that His Father would not take His people “out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” John 17:15.

The Secret Rapture teaching was introduced into the United States and Canada between the 1840’s and 1870’s.  A Congregationalist preacher by the name of C. I. Scofield came under the influence of Darby and the Plymouth Brethren. Scofield became a strong promoter of the teaching that had been promulgated by Darby, whom he considered “the most profound Bible student of modern times.” He incorporated this teaching into his SCOFIELD REFERENCE BIBLE. Three million copies were published in the first 50 years! Through this Bible Scofield shrewdly carried the teaching of the Secret Rapture into the very heart of Evangelicalism.

Christ taught that his coming is about as secret as a Nuclear bomb!

Luke 17:22 -27 “And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it. And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Luke 21:25-28  And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;  Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.  And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.  And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

And the great tribulation is NOT the wrath of GOD. It is really the WRATH of Satan upon God’s Church.

Revelation 12:12-13 ¶ Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

The wrath of GOD is contained in 7 Vials. Which is poured out upon the wicked at the time of Christ’s coming.

Revelation 15:7  And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.

The Bible teaches that GOD knows those who are his. He has sealed his people with the Holy Spirit of promise, He has purchased them, they are his servants and his name is upon their foreheads. And they are protected from his wrath.

Revelation 9:4  And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Just as the Jews were protected from the wrath that was poured out upon Egypt. Not by being ‘raptured’ off, but by having the blood applied, so do we.

Exodus 12:13 “And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite
the land of Egypt.”

The Lord protected His own in the Old testament, and He promises to protect us New Testament believers as well!
When the Lord returns who will be removed from the earth, the wicked or the righteous?Matthew 13:41-43  The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. (Also see Matthew 13:49).

Proverbs 10:29-30 ¶ The way of the LORD is strength to the upright: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity. The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.

Proverbs 2:21-22  For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.
See also

The reality     https://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/the-reality/

Why is Dispensationalist Theology undeniably false?  https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/why-is-dispensationalist-theology-false/

Disspensationalists are false Christians.    https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/disspensationalists-are-false-Christians/

Yeshua is an antiChrist  https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/

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PEOPLE WHO DISOBEYED GOD IN THE BIBLE

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 EXAMPLES OF SOME MAJOR PEOPLE WHO DISOBEYED GOD IN THE BIBLE
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When a persons sins God can forgive them next  through Jesus Christ but there often is still negative earthly consequences for them especially related as to  how long it took them to repent, as we see both in the Old and New Testament.
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Even in the New Testament era, today God is not mocked what  a person sows he reaps, a Jew or not too.  

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Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

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1 Corinthians 10: 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.
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1 Corinthians 11:27    Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily…

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There is no New Testament substation by God, Jesus, the Apostles for Israel right to return to the promised land in 1948

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Promised land

There is no New Testament substantiation by God, Jesus, Apostles for Israel’s  right to return to the promised land  in 1948 after God himself made Israel, Jerusalem  desolate and dispersed them world wide in  70 ad.
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Christianity is the only valid true religion today,  in spite of what the lying spin doctors say too, and Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc., are all  bastard regions sponsored  by Satan himself
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Matthew 23
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Luke 13
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Acts 1
20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another…

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Many tend to have a false, selective view of Christian History

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Amongst another one of those big false,  lies  is“ If in the past many supposed that any substantial attachment by Christians to the observance of Jewish customs essentially vanished after the first generation of Jewish followers of Jesus passed away, it is now conceivable that many Christians remained open and even committed to observing the Torah after 70 CE—the year when the Temple of Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans.” 
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For as far as Judaism, Israel, this is what is said in the New Testament.
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Matthew 23

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Luke 13

35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Acts 1

20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

Galatians 4

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/desolate/

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Lies and distortions, taking isolated Bible verses out of context, are major part of the Jewish interpretation of Christianity,  and of Jesus ,  Apostle Paul, and all Christian teachings.. even by the Messianic Jews and most Jews, Muslims even, they do not worship the same God as the Christians do cause they had rejected Jesus Christ as their God.
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Many  Jews  do view Gentiles, Christians still as morally impure because they  engage  in the other practices, teachings that were deemed immoral by Jewish standards.
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The Gospel of  Matthew by the Jews  is referred to as  the “most Jewish” gospel of the New Testament, while Luke-Acts, Apostle Paul’s  writings are  viewed as merely a Gentile Christian text, or very much less Jewish in other words.
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No Jews or non Jews never the less should still continue to observe the Torah after embracing Jesus as their Messiah.
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 The Christian Church is not defined solely by the 4 Gospel of Matthew, Luke and John but is also clearly  more defined by the Book of Acts and Apostle Paul’s writings.
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Matthew 28:19–20, which appears only in Matthew: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you.”  Does not include the Torah , or the Noahide laws. Noahide Laws. This  false rabbinic teaching posits that Gentiles need not observe the 613 commandments of the Torah but only abide by seven universal, ethical laws.
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Jesus was responsible for the cessation of the Jewish religious practices. Jesus was the first “Christian,” who had come to announce the end of the Torah and Judaism, of Israel as well.  Jesus simply came to fulfill Messianic prophecies contained in the Jewish scriptures, and not to Continue his once Jewishness.
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Still the  Apostle Paul is  falsely accused of Draining Jesus of his Jewishness  and the false “Blame” for the Christian distancing from Jewish practice has centered around  Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles traditionally. Paul by the Jews  is viewed as an “apostate” from Judaism who rather had founded a new religion, Christianity. In  reality the observance of Jewish customs essentially vanished after the first generation of Jewish,  Gentile Christian  followers of Jesus passed away, especially after 70 CE—the year when the Temple of Jerusalem was destroyed by the  God and Romans.
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The Jewishness of Jesus has been gradually resurfacing mainly  in North America mainly  and is contrasted  by the Views held by European Christians. American Christians  tend  to conceive of their faith in Jewish terms and even falsely identify themselves with the Jewish people and story significantly  a lot more over  the  Europeans Christians.. 
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“For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven” (Matt 5:20).  And elsewhere, Matthew stresses Jesus statements on the the importance of the Jews in keeping firstly the “moral” or “ethical” requirements of the Torah over their merely keeping the “ritual” commandments of the Jewish Law. The moral or ethical laws dictate how humans should relate to one another. Ritual commandments, on the other hand, refer to those laws that are meant to set the Jews aside as the  chosen people to serve their God which  had  in he past included such things as the observance of the Sabbath, festivals, circumcision, as well as certain purity and dietary laws and all of which still are  not binding on any Christians. Matthew’s Jewish Jesus accuses the Pharisees for neglecting the practice of ethics by focusing on the ritual: “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. It is these you ought to have practiced without neglecting the others” (23:23).  Matthew uses the term “weightier matters of the law” to describe the moral commandments of keeping justice, mercy, and faith. The Pharisees  focused  more   on fulfilling “lighter,” ritual commandments such as tithing herbs It is clear in Luke-Acts that Gentile Christians are not expected to observe the Torah in its entirety.  Acts makes this point clear by decreeing that Gentile (male) followers of Jesus do not need to be circumcised but need to “abstain only from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from whatever has been strangled and from blood” (15:20).
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While there are no statements in the gospel of Luke  any more than in  Matthew that abrogate the observance of dietary laws for Jews all real Christians next, now  are free to eat pork, lobster, or any other animal forbidden for Jewish consumption by the Mosaic Torah (Leviticus 11/Deuteronomy 14).
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Acts chs. 10–11, rather,  many readers of Luke-Acts did all gather  rightfully to proclaim the end of Jewish dietary laws. Apostle Peter, one of the main disciples of Jesus  in Acts, learns this lesson through a vision in which he sees all kinds of “four-footed creatures and reptiles and birds of the air” lowered from the sky on a sheet (10:11–12). Three times a heavenly voice commands him to slaughter and eat the animals in front of him, but Peter adamantly refuses, claiming that he has “never eaten anything that is profane or unclean” (10:14). The heavenly voice responds that “what God has made clean, you must not call profane” (10:15). Now this  statement literally   announces   the obvious application of the vision, namely, that all animals are now kosher and permissible for consumption.
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Luke 16:16: “The law and the prophets were in effect until John came; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is proclaimed, and everyone tries to enter it by force.” Thus the proclamation of the good news of the kingdom of God marks  a new phase in  Jewish history, which is Christianity. The kingdom of God is  proclaimed in Luke-Acts at the expense of the  Jews, Jewish Torah.
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No Jewish person in Acts embraces more the past perpetuation of Torah observance like Apostle Paul. Paul had attended  the synagogue on the Sabbath (13:14–15; 14:1, etc.), kept the Jewish festivals such as Shavuot/Pentecost (20:16) and Yom Kippur (27:9), went  to the temple in Jerusalem and had partaken  in its rituals (21:24), affirms his past  fidelity to the Torah and Jewish customs (28:17), and even circumcises Timothy (16:3)! And yet he too  next had gave it all up to be a follower solely of Jesus Christ .
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Personal Salvation, for all by Jesus Christ  is  achieved without observing the precepts of the Torah that had exclusively applied  only to the Jewish people and which laws they were never able to keep in full  as well. So why would they want to put Christians under these false bondages?
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Even these days Jews and Messianic Jews  tend to have a false, selective view of Christianity, History 
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Jews, Messianic Jews blame Christians, Gentiles  for their hardships, sufferings. “It is an aggressive , war like stance in the debate over  the Jewish history,”  where both  groups  have been distorting the past of their history. “History is a victim of the current crisis in relations between Jews and and Christianity . The whole question is how much hard evidence does anyone really have to support their too often one sided  presentations  is asked. No one knows what Jewish life was even at the time of Christ even cause the Romans had destroyed the Jewish books and Libraries.. “ The Jews do want everyone to think that everyone else wise is in the wrong, abusive,  corrupt,  influenced.” Selective memory, false Biblical studies,  “wars of historical memory” are being waged by the Jews with the Christians, Gentiles  where History is increasingly being interpreted in different ways to suit their own personal Jewish views . Any negative  statements that comes about  as to the Jews is now still being  falsely viewed as being anti Semitic,  as Gentile Genocide  with the “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or the whole Jewish  religious group,” and not necessarily by killing them, but also by  any opposition of the  PAST Jewish acts, writing, history.
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Luke-Acts still remind us that the ex Jewish and Gentile  followers of Jesus  both had played a prominent role in early Christian history, even after the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE, when  all Christians,  now non Jewish ones too were  becoming the dominant force and voice within   Christianity.
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In reality  many of the early  History of  Christian works, those the church fathers wrote or preached from the pulpit  have been preserved and they were  mostly  opposed to Judaism and the observance of Jewish custom. . As late as the fourth century of the Common Era, John Chrysostom, was vociferously   convincing  his Christian parishioners in Antioch not to attend services at synagogues and not to observe Jewish festivals .
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No Jews or non Jews should continue to observe the Torah especially after embracing Jesus as their Messiah.
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 Today’s   Apostolic leaders bring another challenge of the false Christian Zionists  who have made a “deal with the devil” in accepting  Messianic Christian Zionism..
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