In end-time prophecies America is not specifically named nor Russia

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America is not specifically named, although dozens of biblical passages refer to God’s final dealings with “all the nations.” In Haggai 2:7, for example, the Lord foretold through the Hebrew prophet that He would “shake all nations” in the last days. And all people too..
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There is a  renewed interest in end-time prophecies, mostly  sponsored  by people who hate the Church, Christians, even sponsored by  people like the Jews and the false Judiazers now too, with the emphasis that  America is now  in permanent decline— saying that the days of what has been called the American age are numbered, and if we don’t change course, they are coming to an end,” says Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, the author of The Harbinger and senior rabbi at the nation’s largest messianic congregation, the Beth Israel Worship Center in Wayne, N.J. New York Times best-selling author Joel C. Rosenberg tells audiences that America isn’t mentioned in Bible prophecy Rosenberg outlines several potential scenarios he believes could explain why the United States isn’t mentioned in Bible prophecy: The nation—facing $16 trillion in federal debt and $120 trillion in total unfunded obligations—could implode economically, he hypothesizes. Perhaps the U.S. is hit by a surprise nuclear or military attack, blind-sided by a series of terrorist attacks or devastated by an unprecedented spate of natural disasters.
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Some say the same nine harbingers of divine judgment that preceded the destruction of Israel 2,700 years ago are now manifesting in America.   America never had a False religion the Jews had replaced  with  firstly. Funny how most Jews cannot see that they are already in Hell even,, and next will continue to hell..
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Jews, Messianics, others see the end times much differently than the Christians
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Titus 1: 14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables. and commandments of men. that turn from the truth.

https://1inspirational.wordpress.com/2017/12/17/jews-and-god-jesus/

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Revelation 12/10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Too many persons here too are wrongfully these days adding or taking away from the word of God, the Bible and that is why there is so much disputes, different contradictory writings in the Churches also these days Many people think that the end times biblical prophecies about the antichrist, 666, the end of the world , Israel, Zionism, the Battle of Armageddon are still for the weirdoes, religious fanatics , oddballs, extremists, those persons who afraid to face life today, ahead of them and falsely now do look for an escape from it. The Basic problem here also is not the Bible detailed Prophecies themselves but rather how many people misinterpret them, add their views, and it seems few of them even agree with each others still. In reality even these days many

There is a renewed interest in end-time prophecies, mostly sponsored by people who hate the Church, Christians, even sponsored by people like the Jews and the false Judiazers now too Funny how most Jews cannot see that they are already in Hell even,, and next will continue to hell.

Christians SADLY themselves have never studied what the Bible actually says and because of this they often wrongfully leave it to others to read the Bible for them too they thus are too easily deceived by the imposters, cults, sects, wolves in sheep clothing, false teachers, false prophets, false elders too.. Why Are So Many Christians, Persons, Jews, MESSIANICS Obsessed With Predicting the Future ?

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Obsessed with the End Times? Most people are like dumb sheep being told what to do. They are Bible ignorant, know almost nothing personally about what Jesus and the Apostles have said still too. Israel will be judged some day by God.. “Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her” (Rev. 18:8)

THE PEOPLE WHO HATE THE CHRISTIANS, AND AMERICANS FALSELY SUCH AS THE JUDAIZERS FALSELY USE THIS BOOK, THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS FOR THEIR FALSE INTERPRETATIONS.

Now as to the book of Revelations most decent Bible scholars say the symbols in Revelation refer to events and places familiar to its intended audience – Firstly to the JEWS IN JERUSALEM, and that the events it describes would happen “soon” (Revelation 1: 1-4, 1:9-11, 22:10)

Revelation 17:3-5. “So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” Verse 18 of the chapter tells us that the woman is a city. “And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” In verse 1, we are told that the woman sits on many waters. Verse 15 explains the meaning of the waters. “And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” Not only is this woman a city, but the city is apparently the headquarters over a vast international commerce, financial, political system. The Angel’s warning was that God’s people might hear His voice saying: “Come out of her, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Rev. 18:4

The nation Israel is in fact a counterfeit, it is really Mystery Babylon the Great and not the  Christian Church or the USA

The basic, central or critical point of why many like Christians and others do not. Like the Jews and Messianics is the Christian religion, Matthew 12- 30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Christians have been praying for the peace of Jerusalem, and yet, there is still no peace today in Jerusalem. Far from it! Great civil unrest exists in Jerusalem among Jews, Christians, Muslims, Arabs, and Palestinians. Should we still pray for the peace of Jerusalem? Messianic Jews especially and some well-meaning Christians take an isolated verses and demand that we all pray for the peace of Jerusalem. They use the book of Psalms: “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee” (Psalm 122:6). Some of these supposed brethren claim that if we pray for peace to come to Jerusalem, then that will make Jesus Christ come back to Earth quicker.

It is worth noting that Jesus nor his disciples had preached this, had asked us all to do so.. Never once did even our Apostle Paul in his epistles, Romans through Philemon, instruct us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

The peace God desires must mean a fundamental change of heart and action on the part of all those who live in Jerusalem and the surrounding area. Such peace must include developing a spiritual peace with Jesus Christ for all and thus a health and wholeness for all peoples. We must pray for the Israeli’s breakdown of their false resistance to the Gospel and to bring all of Israeli’s to know now their own Messiah, Jesus Christ.

Most of the capital in Israel, the wealth and the media, are in the hands of about 15 families. They control almost everything in Israel – from the price of cheese to the outrageous rate of rent. Money is the name of the game, not righteousness, and in that game those who have nothing are doomed to poverty. Those who have little will soon join the ranks of those who have nothing, and those who have much will become richer.

Israel now has no longer any national status before God today. Israel has no special relationship with JEHOVAH. She had such a relationship in the past but it is was terminated when the Jews killed our Lord Jesus Christ. Next the temple in Jerusalem was completely destroyed. Worshiping Israel, Jerusalem, it’s land , it’s people, it’s leaders, Jews, the Old Testament is still an unacceptable sin to God.

The idolizing and worshiping of Jerusalem, Israel and the Jews is evil in the sight of God. Especially since Israel today is a shameful nation that has abandoned the sole God of the Bible, Jesus Christ. It is demons that are inspiring people to idolize Israel and the Jews. You are now also God, Bible IGNORANT if you do still think that God blesses any Christians who support a wicked, Christ-rejecting people, Nation of Israel. The land of Israel itself and the nation still has nothing to do with our salvation from death and sin.! Jesus alone now died, was buried and rose up three days later for our justification.

Defending Israel is NOT even a man’s job. Defending Israel is NOT a function of the New Testament Church. In fact, this may come as a shock to you, but the Bible says that Jerusalem and the Jews will be attacked and defeated, continually as we often hear about it too, until the Lord returns to earth, thus ending “the times of the Gentiles.” Luke 21:24, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” Israel today is not the fulfillment of any New Testament Biblical prophecy. as well. No one could believe otherwise.

God is focused today on the Church, the Body of Christ instead. Ephesians 2:6-7: “[6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: [7] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.”

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/how-to-pray-for-jerusalem-israel-jews/

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Some absurdly say that America could suddenly lose tens of millions of people in the false rapture, triggering any number of cataclysmic events but there will even be no rapture, as this is more Plymouth Brethren lies.. but this is a reality still  that you should note God who is Jesus Christ  destroyed the Jewish Temple 3 times already and he killed  millions of Jews in the process and he will do it again with the new rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. I guess they too just never learn to obey God, but still do their own thing..
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Our Christian Identity IS SOLELY BASED ON JESUS CHRIST AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE JEWS OR OR PAST ISRAEL
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So, where is the United States in Bible prophecy? The an­swer is that The US not mentioned directly and specifically. The US is covered by general prophecies that relate to all nations, but beyond that, our end time destiny must be a matter of speculation.
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The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible. In regard to the end times, the only nation the Bible seems to be concerned with, specifically, is Israel. Revelation does not mention any countries or nations, other than Israel (Revelation 7:4; 21:12). It mentions Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21),

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The fact still is that neither America nor the United States are mentioned by name in any Bible prophecy.

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When searching for America in bible prophecy, it’s important to understand that the Bible is a mostly bad History book about the Jews, where the Jews continually rebelled against God. Biblical Prophecies are often given in relation to Jerusalem, Israel, not Christians.

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Students of end-of-time prophecy have puzzled for years over the apparent absence of any mention of America in the Bible’s descriptions of the end of the world. “When I look at Bible prophecy, one thing that is of great concern is the absence of the United States, I have to say also that the name China is not found anywhere in scripture and someone’s mere opinion. conviction does not matter as well. It may be difficult to see any other nation but communist China fulfilling these Middle East prophecies since it is establishing close links with Arab nations such as Iraq and Saudi Arabia for the purpose of obtaining oil but that is not ample proof..
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Scholars cannot agree still as who the antichrist is.. Some said it was Obama, others have said it was Hitler and the fiasco continues. Liars would say that the America-China situation is beginning to resemble prophecies long outlined in the Bible. Scripture may reveal that as the end of the age approaches, God is going to “break the pride” of America’s power—because of the sins (Leviticus 26:19 but the devil is the accusers of the Brethren, and US is still one of the most Christian counties. As per God coming out of the North, when in fact, He comes out of the East! In ancient time s, the source of divine punishment always came out of the North. For example, when God punished Israel for their sins, the Babylonians are said to have come out of the North when in reality, they came from the East! (Jer 25:9)
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God judges a nation by the Christians in it, not by the unbelievers. Genesis 18-23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein? 25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? 26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes. 27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes: 28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it. 29 And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty’s sake.30 And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there. 31 And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty’s sake. 32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake.
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What the Bible says about Israel and the Church, one in history and prophecy

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/babylon-the-great-the-mother-of-harlots/

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And do you have one, one New Testament verse that confirms Israel’s present return and possession of the Promised land. I am not aware of one, If you do which one is it?  It is unbelievable, undeniable  that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, bad pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included..  We can all easily know that the Jews had revolted. despised God  and helped to kill their own Messiah Jesus Christ now as well, so their temple was destroyed and they were scattered world wide. Deuteronomy 28:64 “Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods–gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known.” and no return was promised the third time and why?

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/what-the-bible-says-about-israel-and-the-church/

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MOST people are like dumb sheep being told what to do. They are Bible ignorant, know almost nothing personally about  what Jesus and the Apostles have said still too. There really is no true light in them. They are religious but have a god shaped void still.. Sadly it seems to apply to 70 percent of the  professing Christians and their poor pastors, And many of them have false, misleading internet sites just to show off, try to falsely be popular. They are mostly empty wells and it easy too  to spot them King James Bible  These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.  Undeniably Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, Bible ignorant persons often lie and preach their own false agendas. false doctrines in churches, on the net.. and the main reason for that still is that MOST of them have not been called directly to preach , or to teach by God and they are doing so mostly for money, power, personal fame, recognition, slave hood and demonic influence even..

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There are real dangers to end-times obsessions: a disinclination to work toward long-term solutions, a propensity to focus on prophetic fulfillment at the expense of ethical concerns (something Israel’s prophets were never accused of), and a perverse satisfaction in cultural decay. This perversity of an ongoing cultural fascination with End Times and a willingness to help usher them in by proclaiming how rotten things are in the world right now — a key tenet in the false Rapture theology, as in life, is that things usually get worse before they get better. Rapture oriented and Judgmental Christians are demonic induced. Where did Jesus and the Apostles say help to support the rebuilding of the nation of Israel, or Judaism?“

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Jesus has removed Israel from God’s plan, rejecting the past rights and destiny of natural Israel. The opposition to Zionism, Judaism is still Biblical. And the Persecution of the Jews can only cease if they converted to Christianity. The simple truth that none of us know with absolute certainty what will happen shortly in the world.

https://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/on-how-i-see-the-too-often-pretentious-christians/

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BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS, who is it? Israel.

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/babylon-the-great-the-mother-of-harlots/

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The primary source for the history of ancient Jerusalem and Israel is, of course, the Bible. The Old and New Testament is a chronicle of Israel’s repeated failure to obey God, of their refusal to keep His commandments and statutes and for sure not something for Jews to boast about.

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Proverbs 16: 25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/people-who-disobeyed-god-in-the-bible

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The Sin Of Worshiping The Land Of Israel , Jews

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/03/09/the-sin-of-worshipping-the-land-of-israel-jews/

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Keep your eyes on Jesus not the Jewish Antichrist Yeshua

2 Corinthians 11;4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

https://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/keep-your-eyes-on-jesus-not-the-jewish-antichrist-yeshua/

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Israel will be judged some day by God.. “Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her” (Rev. 18:8).

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Russia Is Not Rosh Gog Magog Meschech Or Tubal

You say otherwise   is certainly a creative interpretation of scripture and quite a stretch, especially in light of the fact that no consensus exists in Christianity.

The error of the Russian theory arose from the Scofield Study Bible, which identifies Meshech and Tubal with the modern Russian cities of Moscow and Tobolsk. The only basis for this interpretation is the somewhat similar sound of the two words. Thus: Meshech sounds like Moscow, and Tubal sounds like Tobolsk. However, one cannot simply take a word from an ancient Semitic language (in this case, Hebrew) and find a correlation to a modern name from a drastically different language (in this case an early form of Scandinavian) simply because the two words “sound the same.” While this may be convincing to some for the sole reason of phonetics, it is very irresponsible hermeneutics.

“A closer study of these names reveals that Meshech and Tubal are the ancient Moschi/Mushki and Tubalu-Tibareni peoples who dwelled in the area around, primarily south of, the Black and Caspian Seas in Ezekiel’s day. These nations today are in the modern country of Turkey, possibly parts of southern Russia and northen Iran.  “Magog today probably represents the former underbelly of the Soviet Union: Kazakhstan, Kirghizia, Uzebekistan, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan. All these are Muslim. Meshech was located near what was known as Phrygia, in central and western Asia Minor (Turkey), while Tubal was located in Eastern Asia Minor (Turkey). So with Meshech and Tubal, we are dealing with portions of modern Turkey. Today this region is all Muslim.

Alos Gomer is in Turkey not Russia or Germany. This is the land of ancient Kimmeria. Gomer, it  “refers to the Celtic Cimmerians of Crim-Tartary.” Gomer is well known to the ancient world as Gimarrai of north central Asia Minor (Cappadocia). These people are also known as the Cimmerians. This seems to be the simplest, most obvious interpretation. So Gomer is Gimarra or Cimmeria in Cappadocia. Cappadocia is simply central Turkey, again, another Islamic region.

When Russia stood with Nazi Germany, many concluded that Hitler was the European Antichrist. They were wrong. As soon as Stalin was betrayed by Hitler, Russia fought against Germany. If so many prophecy analysts were wrong then, and they are also wrong again. Prior to the Jewish Bolshevik Revolution in Russia , Christian scholars and historians used to identify the nations of the Magog, Meshech, Tubal and Gomer with the regions of the Caucasus and Turkey.

The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, citing ancient Assyrian writings, places the location of Magog in the landmass between ancient Armenia and Media – in short, the Republics south of Russia and noth of Israel, comprised of Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Turkestan, Chechnya, Turkey, etc. I agree with all these quotes and I add; these are all Muslim nations.

 

Magog is specifically referred to as the region of “the land of Magog, chief prince (head or leader of) of Mesech and Tubal” (Ezekiel 38:2). Because Meshech and Tubal are regions of Turkey – Magog must thus be related to Turkey. Otherwise the passage would make little sense. How could Russia be the head over regions of Turkey? It makes better sense to conclude that Gog is a leader from the land of Magog and the leader of Meshech and Tubal, all of which are in Turkey.

Israel in the Middle East is not the real regathering of all Israel spoken of in prophecy. The real regathering will not happen until during the tribulation after Mystery Babylon the Great is destroyed. The nation Israel is in fact a counterfeit, it is really Mystery Babylon the Great.

“I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” (Luke 10:18)

Satan is a counterfeiter. His method of deception is providing counterfeits for all of the major End Times prophecies. For example, Satan wants to deceive the world into worshiping his antichrist. Satan knows that Christians are aware that the Bible warns of an End Times antichrist. Christians are going to be watchful of such. How will Satan convince these Christians that his antichrist is the legitimate messiah? How will he deceive these Bible savvy Christians? Satan will create a counterfeit antichrist. He will then use all of his controlled televangelists and the rest of the Satanically controlled Christian establishment to promote the notion that his counterfeit is, indeed, the real antichrist. Satan will then script out a scenario where his real antichrist (posing at the Messiah) will defeat this fake antichrist. He will then use his puppets to persuade the Christian masses to worship the real antichrist, under the guise that the antichrist was already defeated. Pretty clever huh? He wants people to think, “The antichrist was already defeated, here comes the Messiah to save the day.” In this way, he will trick Christians into worshiping the false Messiah. He plans to make it look like Revelation happens before it actually happens.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. (Matthew 7:13-14)

Now Russia is a country that is 86% Christian according to the CIA World Fact Book. Much of the “Russia is Magog” misinformation was propagated in the US during the Cold War. Russian xenophobia that has been further driven by bad American preachers and televangelists.

Satan lies when he says that the “Gog and Magog” is Russia but Magog, Meschech, and Tubal are references to Russia; are all Turkish nations.

“Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army (Ezekiel 38:15-16)

In the Old Testament, the king of the north has reference to the areas of Syria, Turkey, and Iraq. The word north is used of Syria or the Old Seleucid Empire six times, of Babylon sixteen times, of Assyria one time, and of Iran one time. These are the lands once occupied by Magog, Gomer, Togarmah, Meshech and Tubal.

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In landmark case on Israel and Jewish identity, 25 March 2013  British tribunal says anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism, The case involved a suit brought against an academic union by an Israel-supporting professor who wanted the tribunal to condemn anti-Israel speech as anti-Semitism because, he claimed, an affinity to Israel was an intrinsic part of his and others’ Jewish identity. The case was to have been the culmination of 11 years of pro-Israel activism by [Ronnie] Fraser, a mathematics lecturer who had been fighting against what he saw as a virulently anti-Israel tide, with a distinct tinge of anti-Semitism, rising in the union to which he belongs.
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Alongside him was Anthony Julius, one of the most prominent Jewish lawyers in Britain and a tireless opponent of anti-Semitism. Supporting the two were a cast of witnesses including Jewish and sympathetic non-Jewish activists, academics and politicians….Was the Israeli government involved too? A senior official at Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs recently revealed that, “over the last six months Israel has taken on two (court) cases in partnership with UK Jewry” in fighting Boycott Divestment Sanctions (BDS). This very likely includes Fraser’s case,
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The lawsuit was backed both financially and in terms of considerable research resources by organizations linked to the central British Jewry leadership forums, the Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Jewish Leadership Council.
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The defendants also had their own Jewish supporters. Fifty Jewish UCU [University and College Union] members signed an open letter praising their union and denying that there was any sort of institutional anti-Semitism within its ranks.
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An Employment Tribunal has found in favour of UCU on all ten complaints of harassment brought by a UCU member who opposed the union’s policy on Palestine.
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The claimant had been supported in his claim by leading lawyer Anthony Julius. In giving their reasoning the Tribunal stated that ‘the proceedings are dismissed in their totality’ and ‘we greatly regret that the case was ever brought. At heart it represents an impermissible attempt to achieve a political end by litigious means.’
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The Tribunal also described themselves as troubled by the implications of the claim, stating that ‘underlying it we sense a worrying disregard for pluralism, tolerance and freedom of expression, principles which the courts and tribunals are, and must be, vigilant to protect’.
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While witnesses for UCU were described in the tribunal’s decision as ‘careful and accurate’, some witnesses for the claimant were described as appearing to ‘misunderstand the nature of the proceedings and more disposed to score points or play to the gallery rather than providing straightforward answers to the clear questions put to them’.
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John Mann MP and former MP Denis MacShane were collectively described as giving ‘glib evidence, while testimony of another key witness for the claimant was described as ‘extraordinarily arrogant but also disturbing’.
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UCU general secretary Sally Hunt said: ‘I am delighted that the Tribunal has made such a clear and overwhelming judgement in UCU’s favour. There are many different views within UCU and wider society about Israel and Palestine and this decision upholds our and others’ right to freedom of expression and to continue to properly debate these and other difficult questions.
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‘This has been an extremely difficult period for the UCU staff and members involved in defending the union’s position and I am especially pleased therefore that the Tribunal found our witnesses to be careful and accurate.
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‘The claimant, while unsuccessful, of course had the right to challenge the union in the courts and will be treated with respect within the union as will his views on this question. Now that a decision has been made I hope in turn that he, and others who share his views, will play an active part in the union and its debates rather than seek recourse to the law.
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‘For our part, UCU will look at our own processes to see if improvements can be made in line with the advice given to us within the decision. We remain opposed to discrimination of any kind including anti-Semitism and we will work with energy and determination with all who will work with us to oppose it in the workplace and society at large.’
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The tribunal wrote in its judgment that “a belief in the Zionist project or an attachment to Israel or any similar sentiment cannot amount to a protected characteristic. It is not intrinsically a part of Jewishness.”  The Tribunal threw all ten complaints out, most of them because Fraser was found not being harassed (he was merely disappointed — as can happen in politics, or he was not even related to (!) or present at (!) the act of supposed harassment). The complaints were judged to be political discussion in a open society. Not a single fact of anti-Semitism was established. The court (Tribunal) explicitly says that those “Jewish” ties to Israel are not part of Jewish religion or race, so they are not protected by harassment law or discrimination law. They are part of political (free) speech.
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Others have said ” The State of Israel and its illegal activities outside of its Internationally recognized sovereign extent are surely the most divisive issues to have ever been driven between the Jewish people. That the state of the Jewish people and the Zionist movement tries at every step to circumvent and then ignores the Laws, UN Charter and relative conventions which were adopted in large part because of the treatment of Jews under the Nazi regime, should have been setting off VERY LOUD alarm bells long ago  That it hasn’t is sadly reminiscent of the influence the Nazis had over the people of Germany”. ” This kind of exposure , with all of the effort Zionism has put into this case for so little reward, raises serious questions about the default Zionist business model. It’s not enough to silence people, destroy their careers or scream antisemitism . There is just too much bad news coming out of Israel for the old crap to work any longer”. ” The insanity of smearing good people with anti Semitism has ruined the Jewish peoples claims to unfairness, and no longer means all that much. It used to. Not any more. ” ” Do these very foolish people realize, or perhaps they do and do not care, what something so very stupid and silly such as this would mean in the future? You could presumably have black folks claiming it’s racist to speak about the state of countries in Africa, people of Irish ancestry, claiming the same about criticism of Ireland, and on and on.  “
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and do note this true contradiction between Zionism and Judaism.  ” The Talmud says that ever since the beginning of exile, Jews are forbidden to conquer the Holy Land, or to fight wars against the non-Jewish nations. They are also forbidden to take physical action toward their redemption. Thus, according to Jewish law a Jewish state is forbidden to exist. It must be dismantled and the land must be ruled by a non-Jewish government. “
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“Zionists are unmasked as they hide behind the facade of Judaism & true torah Jews. Zionism has no place in a free civil society & in the world of humanity. The time for open debate is now or never! “”An essential motive of Zionism from its beginning was a fierce desire to end the centuries of Jewish weakness, to show the world that Jews would no longer be pushed around, that they’d fight back and prove themselves tougher than their enemies. There was more to Zionism than that. But the “pride through strength” piece came to dominate the whole project. Hence the massive Israeli military machine with its nuclear arsenal.But you can’t prove that you’re stronger than your enemies unless you’ve also got enemies — or at least believe you’ve got enemies — to fight against. So there has to be a myth of Israel’s insecurity, fueled by an image of vicious anti-semites lurking somewhere out there, for Zionism to work” Israel creates  it’s own enemies of it’s own choosing s still..
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A Sharp drop in immigration to Israel from America and U.K., as the  French immigration beats out American immigration for first time in years, keeps overall new arrivals to Israel steady; U.S. immigrants dropped by 13 percent and from the U.K. by 27 percent. The sharp jump in immigration from France has been attributed to several factors, among them a bad economy. With almost 500,000 members, France has… the largest Jewish population in Europe. The number of new immigrants to Israel from around the world totaled 19,200 in 2013 – up by just more than 1 percent compared with the previous year. As in previous years, the largest group of immigrants this year came from the former Soviet Union, their number totaling 7,520 – a 1 percent drop from the previous year. Immigration to Israel from Latin America grew by more than a third this year to total 924, the majority of these new arrivals coming from Argentina, Peru and Brazil. Immigration from Middle Eastern countries, most of them unidentified, rose by 4 percent to 245. By contrast, immigration from Eastern Europe dropped 8 percent to 270. That is why they need to steal more land. This year’s immigrants were on the whole young and tended to be female. 60 percent of the new immigrants were under 35, with 37 percent between ages 18 and 34, and almost 53 percent were female. . The city that attracted the biggest number of immigrants was Jerusalem, where 2,400 set up base, followed by Tel Aviv, which drew 1,650.
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The British-Israel theory is a dead, God-dishonouring, anti-Scriptural fraudulent and deceptive lie from the pit of hell. It is every one of these things and more.”
“Of course Mormonism and British-Israelism are blood brothers.” The fantasy of an Anglican Israel in a tribal descendancy from the lost tribes of Israel existing today in the English speaking peoples of Europe and America is still nothing but a delusion.,
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Now what is British-Israelism or Anglo-Israelism? It is the doctrine that the Jews are not Israel. That is all a mistake, we are told. Jews are one thing and Israel quite another. It is a doctrine that originated in England, largely surrounding the British people. The doctrine asserts that the Anglo-Saxon peoples are the ten tribes the true Israel. And it is Israel, not the Jews, who will be restored in the millennium. This restored Israel, the Anglo Saxon people, with Jesus Christ seated on the reestablished earthly throne of David as king, will rule the whole world. Anglo-Israelism teaches that the literal throne of David exists today in the throne of the English kings, and when Jesus Christ returns he will simply occupy the throne which the British kings now hold, and have been holding for centuries, for him until he comes, until the millennium commences. That millennium will surround the Anglo-Saxon peoples, not the Jews at all. The Anglo-Saxon peoples of the earth will be gathered together in the millennium, and with Jesus Christ on the throne now held by England’s House of Hanover, they will rule the world. That is not half of it – it is still all utterly false.
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It is very interesting to observe how the Anglo-Israelist connects the two. For instance, one of their chief texts for a “scriptural intimation” and “strong historical proof” is Gen. 48:1820: “And Joseph said unto his father, not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head. And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations. And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.”

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And here is the “intimation”—Ephraim should be called “great” and Great Britain is called Great, therefore Great Britain is Ephraim! On the other hand Manasseh must have a place in the picture, so the United States is Manasseh. That is the very hub of their British-Anglo-Saxon-Israel claim—that Great Britain is Ephraim and the United States is Manasseh. But the whole argument is based upon misquotation. The passage does not say that “Ephraim shall be called great”—it says that “his younger brother shall be greater than he”—that is, Ephraim should be “greater” than Manasseh,” which could only mean, according to this theory that England is greater than the United States! Does lend-lease furnish “strong historical proof” on this point? How do Americans like that slant? Really, what might have happened to great Ephraim if little Manasseh had not come to the rescue? He would have been sunk! The theory furnishes very good British propaganda but, without reflecting on the imperial greatness of Britain or the national pride of America, if the glory of either is the hope of Israel it is a mighty poor affair.

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Let it here be definitely stated that neither the British government nor the British people, not even the Church of England, make any claim that Great Britain is Israel. No more so than the United States government lends endorsement or encouragement to the Mormon claim that the original Americans are the ten tribes of Israel. Like Mormonism, therefore, Anglo-Israelism is just another “ism” that needs to be exposed. It is a false theory of late origin, the fallacies of which are manifest when compared with the facts of history and scripture. It is similar in origin to all other late isms and rests on much the same claims.

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About a hundred years ago imposter Joseph Smith made the false claim of having special divine revelations, published a bogus book and Mormonism was born. A few years later Ellen White fell victim to some delusions which she called visions. Her followers thought her revelations were divine, named her their inspired prophetess, published her visions, and Seventh Day Adventism was born. Near the same time ecstatic Mary Baker Eddy found it profitable to dream dreams and to see visions, so she brought forth her system of so called science in the form of a creed called “Science and Health with a Key to the Scriptures,” and “Christian Science,” falsely so called, was born. An obscure person named Richard Brothers who lived in England between 1757 to 1824 is credited with the origination of this farfetched fantasy. He was true to the form of religious fanatics and his movement was strikingly parallel with Joseph Smith and the Mormons. The religious lunacy of these men was about identical in degree, the difference being in the circumstances of Richard Brothers’ commitment to an asylum and Joseph Smith to a jail. In this same era of “visions” and “revelations,” Richard Brothers, in England, just another misguided soul, made himself believe that he was the subject of special revelations, too; and he conjured up the notion that the Anglo-Saxon peoples, not the hated Jews, are the real Israelites and Anglo-Israelism is here. Being a Britisher himself, and fond of the Anglo Saxon idea anyway, it was not hard for Brothers to believe that they are Israel in other words, we are it. Thus Anglo-Israelism was born. That is precisely the way it came into existence, and like Mormonism, Adventism, Eddyism and all other humanisms, it has nothing in history, scripture, or common ordinary sense upon which to stand.

https://asposed.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/the-sin-of-worshipping-the-land-of-israel-jews/

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“I will seek that which was LOST and bring again that which was driven away. “Ezekiel 34:16 “I was not sent but unto the LOST sheep of the House of Israel.” Matthew 15:24 Sending forth the Disciples, He says: “But go rather to the LOST sheep of the House of Israel.” Matthew 10:6

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There is no such thing even as the Ten Lost Tribes. There cannot ever be Ten Lost Tribes lost as they were never lost to God. As they were all represented in Jerusalem at the day of Pentecost. And when these people use false methods of Bible interpretations to justify their lies they must thus do deny most of the Holy Scriptures

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Also Oliver Cromwell is the fellow who let the Jews back into England three hundred years after they had been kicked them out for dishonest business and child murdering of Guy.

Anyway, another crap supported by Cromwell was called next British Israelism which falsely believes the Anglo-Saxon Aryans were considered to be the lost tribes of Israel. These rather puritan nuts bought it and it gave Cromwell the leeway to let the Jews back into England (the same Jews who funded his war against the English King and loyalists in return for being able to be let back into England to Jew away). This movement was a hybrid Jewish sect of race-mixed Jews and gentiles who suck in the odd pure gentile who has been conditioned into Jewish fundamental Christianity at a young age. Hence their strange beliefs and Jewish behaviour.

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And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 24:4-8, 10-14

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2015/11/05/the-end-times-does-it-matter-and-who-cares/

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