The Fall of Jerusalem
Mark 11:17 – 19:And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves. And the scribes and chief priests heard it, and sought how they might destroy him: for they feared him, because all the people was astonished at his doctrine. And when even was come, he went out of the city.
Mat 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. 20 And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!
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Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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Luke 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel
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Here is what everyone has to know, admit, Pentecostals and Baptists, Jews, Messianic Jews, all ye Bible lovers now included, Jesus own actual reply to the Question he was asked Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? and his reply was Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. and Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. Now Jesus and the New testament does not talk about a partial, eventual restoration of the Nation of Israel or earthly Jersualem as God’s center.. but a total dispertion next of the Jews.. Luke 23:28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children. 29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck. 30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us. 31 For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?
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Since God is sovereign and the New Testament was written in Greek and Aramaic according to his will and not in Hebrew. Could not have God writtten the New Testament rather in Hebrew and why did he not.? Why? it is cause He got rid of the old covenant and made a new covenant that wasn’t not Jewish anymore.. that included now the gentiles..
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It may surprise you to discover that the New Testament never uses the term ‘chosen’ to describe the Jewish people. It is only used of those who follow Jesus.
Because of their rejection of Jesus Christ as their savior, Lord Messiah all of the Jews stopped being God’s chosen people, their temple was destroyed permanently, and no new temple will be rebuilt with God’s approval anymore even because Jesus Christ himself is the new temple of God, https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/are-you-a-real-christian-or-a-pretender-imposter-still/
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nor does God approve of the Jews as having have any rights to the promised land anymore as well.. they the Jews like Cain are trying to reestablish their own false religion now instead..
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(Heb 11:4 KJV) By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
(1 John 3:12 KJV) Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.
(Jude 1:11 KJV) Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/
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A relationship with God is not like watching the TV.. you do not choose and pick what Channels to watch, or to follow.. the relationship is more like using a phone, a 2 way conversation.. you talk and listen. I too once was praying for a house, car, job, money but God rather was trying to tell me to go to the Hospital cause I seriously needed medical care.. in fact I needed heart surgery, and I often get prayer requests, demands even from people for money, etc., and seems the only time they contact me and God is when they need or want something.. that is not real Christianity.. God says His ways are not our ways.. Seek God and get His will, help and not man’s help..
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(2 Cor 3:15 KJV) But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.
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In the Bible, the New testament book of Galatians, we see that Apostle Paul expressed a full concern about a group of people who were attempting to pull the Galatian Christians back into legalism and the Law. These people were Judaizers.
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In Galatians 1:6-10, Paul said: 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! 10 Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ.
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If All of the Apostles now l came out from under the Law, who do we think we are to go back under it? as Aposltel Paul said in Galatians:
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1 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort (Galatians 3:1-3)
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Beware of those eveil people who say, think you have to go back under the Law to find a deeper place in Christ. Let’s not replace the Presence of God with ritual and ceremony. It’s not what He wants for us. Beware.
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First do notice how quickly the Jewish lovers next do go into a rage and threathen you with judgement cause you do not agree with them and use your right of free speech to do so.
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Today’s Jews are are too quick to associate with the Promised Land of Joshua’s time. However, as per the conditions of the Bible , the New Testament and even the establishment of the State of Israel by the United Nations in 1948 it now raises many valid questions about that relationship validity.
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Still the state of Israel is big enough for both the Jews and Muslims to live together in peace too. So do all grow up and smarten up up. (Psa 133:1 KJV) Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity
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I really get sick every time I hear preachers such as John Hagee and Jerry Falwell demonize the Arab people, while glorifying the Jews. https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/john-hagee%e2%80%99s-israel-heresy/
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Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies.
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Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East.
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And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel.
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.John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;
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After numerous charges against the scribes and Pharisees for their mistreatment of God’s Law, Jesus concludes his condemnation by prophesying the consequences of their sins. The Jews had killed God’s prophets in the past. Though this current generation thought they were above such misdeeds, Jesus stated that they would continue to kill righteous people. They were not above the misdeeds of their forefathers, they were just as guilty. The punishment for killing God’s people would fall upon this very generation. http://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVstudies/GospelAccounts/a47FallOfJerusalem.html
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Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of jess, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too.
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The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather. https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/
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” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context.
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We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so. I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. ” http://mccainvrsobama.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/even-as-to-the-promised-land/
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THE JEWS AND ARABS FALSELY DO PREACH THEIR VERSION OF THE LETTER OF THE LAW OVER LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR TOO!
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Jews will always be far from any right to the the promise land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS, even the blood shed of many others that they have killed from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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Firstly any one who looks at the subject of prophecy, a real genuine Bible student knows that too many Jews ,who can only use the old testament, and there is almost no new testament substantiation for it, still the Jews, and many others have wrongfully now Distorted Biblical Prophecy Interpretation after the time of Jesus Christ to suit their false Jewish’s ends, a Jewish purpose, for they like Judas they betray Jesus Christ by these acts for Jesus next made it clear the second Jewish Kingdom of God was not in this world.. (John 18:36 KJV) Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
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And the false Jewish supporters can solely refer to the Old Testament verses now such as Jeremiah Chapter 31, Joel 3:2, Amos 9:15 and Psalm 83: for they undeniably have no New Testament substantiations, support for Israel’s return or possession now of the past promised land.
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And as we all do know the main temple in Jerusalem was fully destroyed to the ground in 70 AD by the Romans, as well as all of the temple records there in, so no one any longer can validate his Jewish ancestry or birth rights even.
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The chief identifying mark of the false Judiazers is their full or partial observance of sthe Jewish laws such as the celebration of festivals and the Sabbath, studying heavily the Jewish Scriptures, and keeping certain Jewish feasts. Note these people aresome of the most divisive, legalistic, demonic led. Thesre are here also the so called believers in Yeshua who rant and rave about the church being pagan, and Pentecostals being demonic, and the Christians are not keeping the Sabbath and not following the Torah. They don’t want to be called Christians, they don’t believe in our Jesus . Real Christian do not keep the sabbath any more and they do not follow the Torah
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The Judiazers are the ones still headed to hell, for they do not believe that Christ alone saves, but they believe that they do like Cain, do need to play a role in their own salvation. Some they are Like the Christian Jews in the Book of Hebrews who received the truth but falsely continued to make sacrifices, trusting in their own sacrifices for their personal salvation, the judiazers basically do still count Christ’s blood as an “unholy thing,” – for they do not believe is is mighty enough to save them itself. Judaizers they are slap to the face to Christ our Lord and Saviour.We are initially saved through the finished work of Jesus Christ and not by our own works, but through God’s GRACE but we are kept as Christians by our own free will!
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We are not talking about Jewish people who sccept Jesus Christ also as their lord and Savior and become true Christians.
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There are generally are 4 false groups among the false Judaizers:
1 Jewish Christians 2 Gentile Judaizing Christians 3 Confused God-fearers 4 Messianic Judaizers
-The Jewish Christians were Jews who believed in Jesus, yet continued to observe Jewish law.
-The Judaizing Christians group consisted of Gentile Christians who have faalsely adopted certain aspects of Jewish law; some of them had observed certain Jewish practices prior to their conversion (to Christianity) because of their false attraction to these customs.
– Others had not kept any Jewish rites before becoming Christian
*** The reason for their errors is clear, they have not yet fully turbed to the Lord Jesus Christ
(2 Cor 3:16 KJV) Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.
(Heb 10:20 KJV) By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
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For all of the Jewish believers in the shed blood of the Messiah Jesus Christ, a normative Judaism is nothing short of spiritual adultery. In Romans we are told that we were made to die to the Law in order to be joined to (married to) the Messiah Jesus Christ. “Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, that we might bear fruit for God.” Romans 7:4 And the context is that of a woman who is married, i.e. she cannot (legitimately) be joined to two different husbands, except that one be dead. We are NOT our own savior, so let’s allow Jesus to be our sole Savior and let’s leave the false religions, even Judaism to the world. “Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through Him forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses. “Take heed therefore, so that the thing spoken of in the Prophets may not come upon you… ‘Behold, you scoffers, and marvel, and perish; For I am accomplishing a work in your days, A work which you will never believe, though someone should describe it to you.’” Acts 13:38, 41
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“For many walk of whom I often told you and now tell you even weeping that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction whose god is their appetite and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things.” Philippians 3:18,19
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It is a really sad fact, in spite of the fact they may use some of the same words other real Christians do now, that too many professing Christians who claim they love God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, in reality they are still not filled with the Holy Spirit even cause they have rejected the fullness of the Holy Spirit, and his gifts being applicable today, they now falsely have limited the Gospel as being Jesus the Savior only and they wrongfully do not teach the full Gospel of Jesus the Christ now as well…. and they falsely emphasize the usage of Greek and the teaching of men, such as Darby, Scofield, over the Holy Spirit teaching us directly.. and those amongst them who do this they all basically do not have the Holy Spirit, are actually deceived, are now none of His.. They realy are still unsaved thus.
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“YOU CANNOT PRAISE HIM IN FALSE DOCTRINE ..YOU COMMIT FORNICATION WHEN YOU ARE IN FALSE DOCTRINE …..WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE THE HOLY GHOST YOU CANNOT WORSHIP HIM…..HE SAID THIS IN ACTS BEFORE HE LEFT UP Mat 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT BRING THE DEMONIC DOCTRINE INTO THE CHURCH …SAYING YAHWAH KEEPING THE PASSOVER THE SABBATH”
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Now the Law of Moses was great while it lasted. But it had a failing; it couldn’t make any of us free from all things. It is ONLY through Jesus Himself the Person, the God/man Christ Jesus and His work on the cross that we can be set free. Observing the Law itself now cannot do it for us. “For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, ‘Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.’ ” Galatians 3:10 “And I said to their children in the wilderness, ‘Do not walk in the statutes of your fathers, or keep their ordinances, or defile yourselves with their idols.” (Ezekiel 20:18) And again in verse 25, “And I gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not live.”
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There are major unacceptable New testament, Biblical. theological differences between Messianic Jews and the true Christians, the true believers.. Forwe need to recognize that God doesn’t favor one culture above another. “Jewish culture” is not only foreign to most Jews, it is also foreign to God. in Reality Judaism (and all cultural religions for that matter) looks to be like serving God, but they are not for they do robs us of the opportunity to bond with God, to speak to Him, to know Him, to love Him, to serve on God’s own terms. The teaching of the Pharisees (Judaism) itself is poisonous for all believers. Either we have Jesus and His life, or we have something else and we die. “See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.” Colossians 2:8 http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/in-the-last-days-perilous-times-shall-come/
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Messianic Jews they have not made the necessary step to cross over to worship Jesus as their Lord amd Savior directly yet as well ,even because they have not taken up their cross, forsaken all to follow after Jesus as well, for being a Christian believer in Israel isn’t easy for you always feel that the rest of Jewish society isn’t accepting you. It should be understood by all that all Jews still need to be saved from their sins, Hell itself by accepting Jesus Christ as their Personal lord, Savior, and any of their Jewish cultural roots will not save them.
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NOW WE VALID CHRISTIANS DO BASE THE VALID DOCTRINES ON THE NEW TESTAMENT SUBSTANTIATION BY JESUS OR THE APOSTLES, NOT JUST ON THE OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES.. http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/about-those-jews-persons-who-still-falsely-refuse-to-acknowledge-openly-jesus-christ-as-their-lord-and-savior/
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BY THE WAY IF YOU CHECK OUT THE GOSPEL YOU WILL SEE THAT JESUS DROVE OUT THE MONEY CHANGERS TWICE AT THE BEGINNING AND END OF HIS MINISTRY WHICH HAS GREAT SIGNIFICANCE..
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“Did Jesus pray for the people He upended and scourged as He walked through the temple? No. How come Jesus didn’t pray for and bless His enemies?
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Jesus as the Chief Apostle and Prophet, judged the false ones of His day and He publicly did not say nice things about them but told them that their end would be worse than their beginning. He told them they were hypocrites, blind guides, serpents, brood of vipers, and lawless ones, who would not escape the condemnation of hell and there would be a day of judgment for them. He told them,”Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, “that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. (Matthew 23:34) And because God was with Him, God would honor His words and they would not fall to the ground. The Jewish religious and political leaders of Jesus day along with their followers would not escape the condemnation of hell in the speedy ensuring judgments that followed in 70 AD for whatsoever a man sows so shall He reap! Flavius Josephus in writing about “The Siege of Jerusalem, AD 70” testified: Throughout the city people were dying of hunger in large numbers, and enduring unspeakable sufferings. In every house the merest hint of food sparked violence, and close relatives fell to blows, snatching from one another the pitiful supports of life. No respect was paid even to the dying; the ruffians [anti-Roman zealots] searched them, in case they were concealing food somewhere in their clothes, or just pretending to be near death. Gaping with hunger, like mad dogs, lawless gangs went staggering and reeling through the streets, battering upon the doors like drunkards, and so bewildered that they broke into the same house two or three times in an hour. Need drove the starving to gnaw at anything. Refuse which even animals would reject was collected and turned into food. In the end they were eating belts and shoes, and the leather stripped off their shields. Tufts of withered grass were devoured, and sold in little bundles for four drachmas.
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There is a real price to be paid for rejecting truth and doing injustice, even in the current time of life, as the people of Jerusalem who murdered Jesus could testify. By 66 AD Life in Jerusalem had become a nightmare, it was so full of violence and misery. Famine and food shortages become an everyday problem.
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TITUS now promised that the Temple should be spared if the defenders would come forth and fight in any other place, but John and the Zealots refused to surrender it. For several days the outer cloisters and outer court were attacked with rams, but the immense and compact stones resisted the blows. As many soldiers were slain in seeking to storm the cloisters, Titus ordered the gates to be set on fire. Through that night and the next day the flames raged through the cloisters. Then, in order to save the Temple itself, he ordered the fire to be quenched. On the tenth of August, the same day of the year on which Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the Temple built by Solomon, the cry was heard that the Temple was on fire. The Jews, with cries of grief and rage, grasped their swords and rushed to take revenge on their enemies or perish in the ruins. The slaughter was continued while the fire raged. Soon no part was left but a small portion of the outer cloisters, where 6,000 people had taken refuge, led by a false prophet who had there promised that God would deliver His people in His Temple. The soldiers set the building on fire and all perished. Titus next spent eighteen days in preparations for the attack on the upper city, which was then speedily captured. And now the Romans were not disposed to display any mercy, night alone putting an end to the carnage. During the whole of this siege of Jerusalem, 1,100,000 were slain, and the prisoners numbered 97,000. ” http://www.publicbookshelf.com/public_html/Outline_of_Great_Books_Volume_I/templejer_cg.html
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I too am a Gentile grafted into the branches of the fig tree that was symbol of the Jewish People.. the Jews were once God’s chosen people…
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But you do not put old wine into new basket Jesus said.. but you put the new wine into containers too.. so the Old has been superseded by the New Testament.
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Only those who believe in the Son of man…there can be Good Arabs, good Americans…etc… No one goes to the Father except through me…Jesus said. He is the sole and ultimate Sacrifice.. the only way to God for everyone..
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but there is no promised return of Israel by Jesus
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Christian Zionists fail to recognize how Jesus universalizes the land promise made in Psalm 37. “But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace.”
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NOTE THIS UNDENIABLE FACT THAT there is no New Testament verse substantiating thaw present Jewish return to the land of Israel. and if you do believe otherwise it rather shows how little you know of Jesus and the whole Bible too.. go and study it rightfully too..
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The true Biblical scholar can note all of the major, essential Christian doctrines have been repeated by Jesus or the apostles in the New Testament. Zionism, the reestablishment of the nation of Israel, with Jerusalem as it’s capital is not one of them. When Christianity became a formal, legal religion in the fourth century, Churches throughout the world agreed on which books should form the New Testament, and they agreed on several basic statements of faith. One of the doctrinal lists created was the Apostles’ Creed, the Creed was an accurate summary of what the apostles taught. It too does not mention Zionism. Nor does the Nicene creed. Nor many others. So the present support of Zionism by many Christians is not a true, valid Christian teaching. Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.”’ (Mt. 4:4,7,10 ) not your own gospel now too.. .
Christian Zionists falsely now contrary to the New Testament do support the rebuilding of the nation of Israel, Jerusalem as the center of Worship, and the rebuilding of the Temple. Since the Christian Zionism error is because they follow a literal and futurist reading of the Old Testament, which plus their false refusal to acknowledge how Jesus and the Apostles reinterpreted the Old Testament, with a false assumption that Old and New Testament run at times parallel into the future, the former speaking of Israel and the latter of the Church. This is at variance with the way the New Testament interprets, fulfills, annuls and completes the Old. For example, “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.” (Acts 10:34-35). If God does not show favoritism, the Jews cannot an longer presume to enjoy a favored or exclusive status. By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear. (Hebrews 8:13). The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming– not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship (Hebrews 10:1) It is fundamental that all persons, Zionist and Christians, do read the Scriptures solely with Christian eyes, and that they interpret the Old Covenant in the light of the New Covenant, not the other way round. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. (Colossians. 2:16-17) This is the most basic hermeneutical error which Christian Zionists consistently repeat is illustrated in the way Christian Zionists continue to regard the Jews as God’s ‘chosen people’ and clearly which is no longer true.
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The Jews Remain God’s ‘Chosen People’ was falsely first propounded by the Plymouth Brethren dispensationalist preacher Darby, his implicit assumption is that the Jews continue to enjoy a special covenant relationship with God apart from through Jesus Christ. This contradicts John the Baptist and Jesus own clear and unambiguous statements to the contrary. “Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, `We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.” (Luke 3:8-9) “Abraham is our father,” they answered. “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do the things Abraham did… You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire.” (John 8:39, 44) “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6) ‘Anyone who does not listen to him (Christ) will be completely cut off from among his people.’ (Acts 3:23)
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Jesus and the apostles repudiated the notion that the Jews continued to enjoy a special status or relationship apart from faith in Jesus as their Messiah. And now ‘chosenness’ is the gift of God’s grace in Jesus Christ to all who trust in Him, irrespective of their racial origins. In the New Testament and the term is never used exclusively of the Jewish people, apart from as members of the Church. Jesus Christ is the ‘chosen’ one. Indeed in the New Testament the term is always used to refer to the Church, the Body of Christ (Ephesians 1:11).Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. (Colossians 3:12) But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy. (1 Peter 2:9-10) It is therefore no longer appropriate to designate the Jews as God’s ‘chosen people’. The term has been redefined to describe all those who trust in Jesus Christ.
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(Song 2:16 KJV) My beloved ( JESUS) is mine, and I am his:
(Song 2:8 KJV) The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.
2 Chr 15:2 The LORD is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.
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The People with an empty, imposturous Christian spiritual life generally still turn to a simplified Old Testament version gospel, practice and not a real New Testament based Gospel for they even turn to idolatry to wrongfully try to compensate for their definite void, guilt feelings, their failure to reach, acquire a deeper Holy Sprit led, filled, spiritual life in Christ…. They practice idolatry instead and now falsely promote, do encourage the worship of men, prophecy, creeds, denominations, history, doctrines, things, places, books, videos, rather most anyhting over solely worshipping now God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. The devil leads them into this. Truly Jesus Christ does not talk to ythem and they never were fully baptized with the holy spirit as many of us here were..
Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. 25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. 26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
MK 4:22 “For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light.
Cor 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: :2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. :4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
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HEAVEN IS OUR HOME AND NOT THE WORLD
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; My opinion- (If you love Him and doing what He expects of us you don’t half to worry,because when you turn the word hate to love this verse is not mean for you)
Deuteronomy 5:8-9 (King James Version) 8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate him.
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“False brethren – While the flesh wants to bring us into bondage to sin, false brethren want to bring us into bondage into legalism, according to Paul (Galatians 2:1-5). They know nothing of the liberty that we have in Christ Jesus. They know nothing of grace and are angry with it. False brethren look for ways to exclude others from the kingdom of God, based on race, social standing, denominational affiliation, education, or being followers of a particular man. They create a sense of second class citizenship among the people of God. False brethren don’t care if you are following Jesus or not as not as you are following their own variant of truth, then you will be accepted by them.” http://dailymedit.wordpress.com/2013/09/05/cutting-off-foreign-influences/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/what-does-the-word-chosen-mean-in-the-bible/ http://postedat.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/the-reality/
http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-jews-were-once-gods-chosen-people/
– http://www.regal-network.com/dispensationalism/files/pdfs/History%20of%20Dispensationalism.pdf
http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/christian-or-not/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/the-boogeyman-called-false-tongues/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/dispensationalists-plymouth-brethren/
https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/the-false-dispensationalists-dispensationalism/
https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/about-the-the-new-covenant/
https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/the-futility-of-becoming-a-jew-messianic-jew-included/
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thenonconformer
/ February 24, 2012I AM NOT AT ALL CULTURAL OR ETHNIC ORIENTED.. ESPECIALLY SINCE JESUS CHRIST BECAME MY LORD AND SAVIOR, FOR GOD LOVES ALL HIS CHILDREN EQUALLY AND GOD HAS FREED US FROM THE FALSE CULTURAL ENTRAPMENT OF MEN. NOW THERE HAS BEEN THE VAST INFLUX OF JUDAIZERS ON THE NET LIKLEY ALSO CORRESPONDING TO THE FACT MANY JEWS WHERE ALLOWED TO LEAVE EASTERN EUROPE. TO GET IMMIGRATION STATUS MANY OF THEM HAD LIED AND SAID THEY WERE CHRISTIANS, MANY OF THEM JOINED EVEN CHRISTIANS CHURCHES, EVEN FOR HELP IN SETTLING IN, BUT ALMOST NONE OF THEM STILL WERE REAL CHRISTIANS, BUT ONLY PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WHO ALSO FALSELY WANTED TO KEEP PORTIONS OF THEIR JEWISH BACKGROUNDS, RELIGION. I MET MANY SUCH JEWS.. YOU ARE EITHER A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN AND NOT BOTH FOR JUDAISM IS BASICALLY A RELIGION THAT FOLLOWS THE OLD TESTAMENT.. NOT THE NEW TESTAMENT.
Too many persons to me it seems you are too ready, in sincerty, to jump at straws, to accept falsehoods as truth , the falsehoods made by un Holy Spirit led, filled men and women, dispensationaists.. that inludes their views.. on prophecy, since they even falsey reject tounguesand the git of healings as being applicable fully today how can they be realy led by God, be his true preachers…. they are not but are here to sucker you in to their lies with half truths.. fore warned is fore armed.
About the lies that Preacher Ashe told us about all women now are able to preach .. the same person who cannot stand for the whole truth.. for I told him that no man or women can firstly Preach to others if they have not been directly called by the Holy Spirit to do so, especialy him since he denies the Holy Spirit he cannot be a true preacher even now.. I had also now asked him if he knew that God has specificaly called him to preach, like I know that that God called me to be his pastor specifically and if he had also now been baptized with the Holy Spirit as evidenced by speaking in toungues.. and had now also asked for his reply.. so what he a Pstor next deleted me instead?
thenonconformer
/ September 13, 2014Judaism IS a religion and it definitely isn’t a race like some have suggested. There are Jews of ALL races the world over.
Judaism HAS distinct ethnic groups in itself, but that does not make the entire group an ethnicity. Ashkenazic (German or Eastern European), Sephardic (Spain and Portugal), Mizrahim (Middle Eastern, North African) and smaller subgroups exist.
These include: Indian Jews (Bene Israel), Romaniotes (Greece), Italian and Chinese Jews. The customs are different, so are the base languages as a whole etc..
To clear up the ‘who is Jewish’ thing: Someone is Jewish one of two ways (according to Judaism):
A) Their mother is Jewish: If someone takes up another belief they are an apostate. Should they *want* to return to Judaism, they wouldn’t have to convert back into the religion, but apostasy implies a number of things, like not being buried in a Jewish cemetery for example.
B) One converts into the religion: Judaism doesn’t proselytize (because we understand that it’s not for everyone), but if someone wants to convert, by all means they are welcome to.
Being Jewish IS religious and not ethnic..Why do people want to know this? Of what relevance is this issue to being Jewish? Is Judaism an ethnicity? No. Although Judaism arose out of a single ethnicity in the Middle East, there have always been conversions into and out of the religion. Thus, there are those who may have been ethnically part of the original group who are no longer part of Judaism, and those of other ethnic groups who have converted into Judaism. . According to the simplest definition used by Jews for self-identification, a person is a Jew by birth, or becomes one through religious conversion. People are free to convert into Judaism; once converted, they are considered the same as if they were born Jewish. This is not true for a race. Clearly mainly here, there is a religion called Judaism, a set of ideas about the world and the way Jews should live their lives that is called “Judaism.” The fact is that Jews, whether one is descended by maternal lineage from those who stood at Mount Sinai and accepted the Torah , or whether one is a proper, full convert, or whether one is maternally descended from a proper, full convert, they are required to fulfill the Commandments of the Torah, Talmud. Judaism is studied in Religious Studies courses and taught to Jewish children in Hebrew schools. Jews are clearly not a race. Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can’t change your race; it’s in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to. Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. A Jew could also be someone who converted to Judaism. Proper and true converts to Judaism are accepted as full Jews. Thus, there are Jews who have been Black, Asian, The traditional explanation, and the one given in the Torah, is that the Jews are a nation meaning a group of people with a common history, a common destiny, a common religion is undeniable.. Of course, Judaism is a religion, and it is this religion that forms the central element of the Jewish culture that binds Jews together as a nation. It is the religion that defines foods as being kosher and non-kosher, and this underlies Jewish cuisine. It is the religion that sets the calendar of Jewish feast and fast days, and it is the religion that has preserved the Hebrew language.Besides that you have to be dumb if you do not think the Jews preach they are a still chosen people, a false religious teaching of theirs. What difference does it make if it’s a culture, ethnicity, or race? It is completely irrelevant. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/
Now are so ignorant and do so often do post, quote Jewish Lies?? ARE YOU OFTEN NOW ARE PREACHING THE DEMONIC SPAWNS OF SATAN, JEWISH LIES.
The Sacred Namers are a group largely professing to be Torah Observant Gentiles, who believe that the only source of power and righteousness in creation is the use (and frequent use at that) of the Holy Name which the Creator gave to Moses on Mount Sinai. This group routinely pronounces anyone who does not use their terminology and their “correct” pronunciation of the name of G-d as Pagan. There is a deeply troubling quasi-psychotic hatred which can be easily found in these groups. Any word of term which is English or Greek is considered to be Pagan in origin. Even common words such as “Sacred”, “Holy”, or “G-d” will instantly brand you as a pagan idolater who has no hope of redemption. Jesus FALSELY is NOW called Yahshua by most sacred name folks . By some he is called Yasha, by some Yeshua, by some Yaohushua, by some Y’shua, by some Iahushua, by others Yehoshua, YAHVAHSHUA, and even Yhwhhoshua. THESE DEMONIC sacred name teachers believe and very vocally teach that unless one uses the Hebrew name and only the Hebrew name for God, he or she will be eternally damned.. THAT IS CRAP, MERE CRAP..
These people within the sacred name movement have made nearly a dozen Bible revisions a cause for an especially deep concern. What demonic processes have their leaders gone through as they came to the point of willingness to make their own bible? One of the most absurd, demonic of the claims made by sacred name movement teachers is that the complete New Testament was originally written in the Hebrew language. Nothing could be further from the truth. This claim is made without so much as a shred of empirical evidence. The historical fact is this: the New Testament was written in Greek. Therefore, the doctrine of the Hebrew only sacred name is made invalid. The sacred name movement teachers are compelled to fight a futile, demonic battle against an obviously original Greek New Testament.
Did Jesus ever once utter even the name Yahweh? Sacred name teachers gamely admit that according to what is written in the God inspired, written Holy Scriptures he did not. A long held and regularly used false teaching among more than half of sacred name movement assemblies and individuals is that the Greek word for Jesus means son of Zeus or has a meaning otherwise connected with or derived from the word Zeus. There are a number of variations on this fanciful teaching, a favorite being that Jesus means Healing Zeus. It is especially sad to see sacred name converts, who have no idea of the source of their information, promoting this error. In spite of the fact that the teaching cannot be backed by research, many in the movement believe it simply has to be true. The teaching is purely and simply a lie, a fabrication. This falsehood began in the teachings of some of the pioneer preachers of the movement. It continues among preachers and teachers who are movers and shakers in the movement today. This doctrine and its continued propagation epitomize other false teachings of the sacred name movement. Even after it has time and again been proven false, many FALSELY still cling to it. This is all demonic.
Now even a cursory examination of the doctrine, as taught by SN teachers, reveals how poorly thought out, ill founded, and false it is. The movement and its doctrine of the Sacred Name is of man and not of God. The Sacred Name Movement is just another tool the enemy uses to deceive and ensnare people. The problem with the Sacred Name cult is that they think we must all use just one particular Hebrew name for God and also just one particular Hebrew name for Jesus. They also have some other strange beliefs/practices such as making “tassels” for one’s clothing. The falsely deny the Trinity. And what you foolishly promote them too.. Jesus is Greek based and is the name of the Messiah in English, this we know for certain. Y’shua is a Hebrew equivalent as is Yoshua… but YAHShua? Never heard if him… it is neither English nor Greek nor even Hebrew, it is an invention of Americans who came out of sect of the Christian Church… a sect that rejects the very religion it came from as being pagan
Sadly Hebrew in many circles has been falsely even promoted as the favoured language above the language of the complete 1611 inspired translation, and given supreme importance as justified through the Old Testament (as well as the New in their case) being originally written in Hebrew, and the Jewish people being the original chosen people of God. Therefore, everything Jewish is being seen as being of God, and importance is placed on the Torah (the Jewish book of laws), along with the Talmud (the oral law), on a par with the New Testament, as Gentile believers find themselves fallen prey to this type of reasoning as the Galatians were at the beginning of the New Testament era ignoring the warning of their Savour Jesus:
Mark 7:13. Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition (putting the Talmud on an equal basis), which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Paul (a Jewish believer from the strictive of the Jewish sects) made it clear … you can’t have one and the other, as the new has cancelled out the old:
Heb. 8:13. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Gal. 1:6-7. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Paul clarified it was the Jewish religion he was saved from, that was responsible for this falling away in his day, and was warning the Gentile Galatian Believers not to be entangled with it:
Gal. 1: 13-14 . For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews’ religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it: And profited in the Jews’ religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
Read Acts 15: 5-24 and you will see the church made a distinction between the old and the new with this final conclusion:
Acts 15:24. For as much as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
This is just More apostasy has hit the Bible Belt. A new wave of Gentile pseudo-Christians are calling themselves Israelites with an elite interpretation of the Scriptures. These “seekers” meet in homes to “restore Israel”, proselytizing God’s elect personally with their anomalous books and message, putting truly saved Christians to shame with their “remnant” zeal. And like Seventh Day Adventists cult their salvation is synonymous with keeping the Law. (See Galatians 5:4: “You have been severed by Christ you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.” See also Galatians 3:25).
The fact that Jesus resurrected on the first day of the week according to the Bible, and that Christians go to church on Sundays in celebration of His resurrection (Romans 14:5, John 20:19-20, Acts 20:7, Hebrews 4:1, 3, 9, and Colossians 2:16-17) does not seem to deter this group of former church-goers. Never mind that the Bible teaches that followers of Jesus were first called “Christians” in Antioch (Acts 11:26). The core of their “good news” is that all believers are Jewish or “Israelites,” and no “Gentiles” were grafted into Jesus by adoption, at least not with the traditional definition of “Gentile” or “adoption” or “Jesus”, for that matter.
Do not bow to their lies, do not be led astray by their foolishness. Proclaim the Word and then if rejected shake the dust off your feet. From Jesus’ own words in Mark 13: 5 Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 6 Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many. 7 When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 8 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.
22 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 23 So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.
The Day and Hour Unknown
32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.33 Be on guard! Be alert[e]! You do not know when that time will come.” :
Titus 1:14. Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth..
Matt. 12:21. And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.
God is not a God of confusion as He makes Himself known by one name through His revealed word, namely the Holy Bible. And as He hast magnified thy word above all thy name … the one who would be audacious enough to replace or change His word would be the one who would be audacious as to replace or change His name. This is presently occurring in Christendom, as the Great Falling Away (from His word) process intensifies, and mankind is conditioned to receive another name … the name of the False Christ of the New Age: 2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
John 5:43. I (Jesus) am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
His Name under siege: Jer. 8:8 … the pen of the scribes is in vain.
.The Bible Teaches:Jesus said: “I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” Luke 13:3
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone…” Revelation 21:8