Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the hole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? .
1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Are there really any valid now grounds for a Bible believer referring to one’s self as Judeo-Christian? Never. Is our precious Christian faith derived mostly still from Judaism? No. Do these two religions have anything in common? No.. Judaism and Christianity do not agree at all and they are as different as light and darkness. Since Christ is the Light.
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Judaism and the Judaizers are still also those false brethren who secretly came into the newly found church to spy out the freedom that Christians had in Christ. They still are there too today. a very modern error indeed, as well as a very ancient error. It is found in the churches wherever men try to substitute their own religion over that presented by Jesus Christ and the Apostles.. prorogated falsely by those who seek salvation by their personal acts, “surrender” instead of by faith, or by those who seek salvation by their own character achievements instead of by the imputed righteousness of Christ and the Holy Spirit, as it is the war of the carnal flesh versus the Holy Spirit.
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When John the Baptist (was carrying our his ministry many People were coming to him repenting of their sins and asking for baptism (immersion). While John was baptizing the people, the Pharisees and Sadducees also came desiring baptism also. Notice what John said to them: “But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, ‘O race of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?'” (Matt. 3:7). Why?
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Any reasonable persons can know that Talmud is the foundation and highest authority of Judaism. And the Talmud is nothing more than the written form of “The Tradition of the Jewish Elders”. The two major Jewish religious ‘denominations’ if you will, in Christ’s day were the Sadducees and the Pharisees. The Sadducees did not believe in the resurrection of the dead, or immortality. They paid lip service to God’s Law. They controlled the priesthood, and the High Priest always came from their ranks.The Pharisees believed in the resurrection of the dead. While they recognized the Law of God , they also claimed that there was a great body of oral tradition that was of at least equal importance as the Law of God. Some of the Pharisees even falsely indicated that the “Traditions” were of greater importance.These Trelgious Jewisj raditions elaborated on and explained away the Law of God, thus making “the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition,” (Matt. 15:6, KJV). Now the Tradition of the Elders later was put into written form called the Talmud. These traditions had their beginnings in Babylon, thus the name, The Babylonian Talmud. This tradition developed during the Babylonian captivity of Judah as told in the Old Testament, and was carried on the the mongrelized descendants of the intermarrying of some of the captive Judahites. It developed from commentaries of various rabbis, undertaking to explain and apply the Law. This Tradition, or Talmudic Judaism, was very different from the true basic Abrahamic or Mosiac religion that we find in the Old Testament. The adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, marks the end of a valid faith in God and the beginning of false Judaism.
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Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man. (Matthew 15:1-9, KJV).
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Is there anything Judeo-Christian about that? Christ was constantly telling the people to beware of the religion or teaching of the Pharisees;
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Matt. 16:1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.5 And when his disciples were come to the other side, they had forgotten to take bread.
6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread.8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees
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Now even today the continual antagonism between Judaism and Christianity exists as ta great gulf that separates these two completely opposite religious systems. One is false and the latter one is genuine. Even these days a vast opposition to Christianity and Jesus Christ, including the past murder of our blessed Saviour upon the cross, emanates from Judaism and tall those hose who profess in it.
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Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect
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Matt 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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The apostle Paul cautions the Philippians against Judaizing false teachers, apostle Paul SPECIFICALLY calls them evil-workers.. as they work hard at trying to falsely destroy the Christian faith.. Messianic Judaism is not just Christianity for Jews or even Christianity in a Jewish context. It is the modern equivalent of the “Judaizers” who plagued the New Testament in the time of the apostles. Because of a false infatuation still with Judaism and Israel, Messianic Jews, Zionists Christians evangelicals, and others falsely do encourage the establishment of what Revelation calls “ Babylon the Great,” a rising system of anti-Christ Jewish control and oppression centering in Jerusalem. They falsely do glorify an apostate religious system of which Christ said He would never be seen in again until they say, “Blessed is He (Jesus) that comes in the name of the Lord.” (Matthew 23:39) Jesus called this rejected system the “synagogue of Satan” for a good reason. Talmudic Judaism masterminded our Lord’s crucifixion. It went on to become the foundation of the modern world revolutionary movement, spawning communism, liberalism, and Jewish financial and media control. This modern, Christ-rejecting Judaism is now nothing of which to be proud. Christ and the New Testament command us to beware of it (Matthew 16:6, Philippians 3:2, etc.) and flee from “ Babylon” on penalty of loss of our souls. Paul told Peter he “stood condemned” for allowing such Judaizers to again impose the bondage of circumcision. (Galatians 2) But many of today’s Messianic Judaizers want to do much more: impose not just mandatory circumcision on their followers but the entirety of the Old Testament law! What is real Christian spiritual? It is submission Jesus. Just as He gave up everything in death for our redemption, so we must give ourselves completely to Him as His bride. “Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:33) Complete repentance and surrender of self is all Jesus truly wants from us. Messianic Jews falsely do not do this.
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Wake up Christians!! There is a concerted demonic, Jewish effort to destroy you. Will you continue to sleep through it all while the antichrist teachings brainwashes you even more? They are busy changing the religion of Christ into a lawless “Judeo” religion that will bring nothing but your demise.and despair.
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2 Cor 11:1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.7 Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.9 And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself. 10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.11 Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works
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1 Cor 11:1, 1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
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Colossians 3:24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
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Matthew 4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
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‘Replacement Theology ‘ Christians Replaced The Jews As God’s Chosen People
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No where in the whole New testament as the Jew being called chosen anymore, only Christians are called the chosen ones.. And his own received him not – ‘’ I too do understand no one likes to have their unrepented sins shouted from the Housetops, the Jews especially it seems, so what? they too do need to repent, stop their wrong doings rather. One cannot overlook Israel ‘s immoral acts because they were once chosen of God in the past. But now they have been rejected of God the last 2000 years too they the Jews too often and falsely, undeniably too now, the chosen ones, tend to think they are now really superior to all other nations too and they can do what they want, for they can do no wrong. Rather this is not so in reality, they the Jews too can be held accountable for their too often now bad acts as well… even against the Palestinians. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/tonce-gods-chosen-people
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We all know the story fairly well by this point. For over a 1,000 years, the Old Testament foretold the coming of the Messiah. And it was very precise as to who this Messiah would be. Here are a few of the OT prophecies concerning Jesus Christ the Messiah:
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“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall calld his name Immanuel” Isaiah 7:14 |
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“Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.” Isaiah 53: 1-3 |
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So, whoever the Messiah was to be, he would have to have been born in Bethlehem, been born of a virgin, crucified on a cross, and most importantly, he had to be rejected by the bulk of his own people. There are many more prophecies, but these are the major ones. History shows us that all of these prophecies were fulfilled on one person – Jesus the Messiah and the anointed one
Here is a good definition of the Replacement Theology: “We believe that the international Church has superseded for all times national Israel as the institution for the administration of divine blessing to the world.” source – Kenneth Gentry
And this from Randall Price: “a theological perspective that teaches that the Jews have been rejected by God and are no longer God’s Chosen People. Those who hold to this view disavow any ethnic future for the Jewish people in connection with the biblical covenants, believing that their spiritual destiny is either to perish or become a part of the new religion that superseded Judaism.” source – Randall Prince
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Got the idea? Jews and Israel are out, Christians are in, the end of story. Like it or not , approve of it or not….
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The true APOSTLES PROPHETS, PASTORS-TEACHERS, ELDERS are not self called, self birthed, nor called and made by men, they are birthed,called and transformed by God alone. Who DOES ALL OF the NEEDED SPIRITUAL transforming, God or men? If it is God, the CHOSEN ONE is true, but if it is men, these CHOSEN ONES are rather Satan’s ministers. True Christians also are born from above alone, and not made by the hands and wills of men.
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Anti-Semitic? YOU GOT TO BE NUTS TO SAY THIS… Well Free speech, Human Rights, freedom of religion and freedom of religious beliefs is still a Canadian right for all even for non Jewish persons too.; Clearly just because some thing someone writes offends someone else does not mean firstly that it is even “hate”, immediately prosecutable by law, the courts or the Human Rights Commission. There is still a separation between appropriate speech and inappropriate speech, a separation between freedom of speech, expressing one’s views, opinions and the delivered, deliberate conscious propagation of hatred towards a specific group or person.; As to the too often slanders, lies, personal attacks being made by the Jewish supporters on others when they do not like the Biblical facts being presented they are still trouble makers it seems.; Accusing detractors of Israeli policies of anti-Semitism is, at its core, childish – Job 15:31 KJV) Let not him that is deceived trust in vanity: for vanity shall be his recompense.; Jews included now..;
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what you really do not know how Jesus changed the old testament laws
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It is amazing how so many persons claim to be Christians when they really still do not know who the Holy Spirit is but also rather firstly who Jesus Christi’s, was, and what he did and how he affected the laws of the old testament.. basically cause they still really did not personally study the New testament, are really Bible ignorant and what they know of Christians is the teaching of men, not by their own personal real bible study..
When I persons says to me be believes in the rapture, eternal security, Zionism end times prophesies, that Jesus is coming very soon I know that the they still really did not personally study the New testament, are really Jesus, Holy Spirit, Bible ignorant and what they know of Christians is the teaching of men, not by their own personal real bible study.
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Many are persons inconsistent Christians because “they pick and choose which of the rules in the Bible to obey.” What I hear most often is the “Christians ignore loads of New Testament texts. they are just picking and choosing what they want to believe from the Bible too”
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So let’s get back to considering the larger issue of inconsistency regarding things mentioned in the OT that are no longer to be practiced by the New Testament people of God. Most Christians don’t know what to believe or what to say when confronted about this too…
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Undeniably the Old Testament devotes a good amount of space to describing the various sacrifices that only the Jews were to offer in the tabernacle (and later in a temple) to atone for sin so that Jewish worshippers could approach a holy God. As part of that sacrificial system there was also a complex set of rules for ceremonial purity and cleanness.
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You could only approach God in worship if you ate certain foods and not others, wore certain forms of dress, refrained from touching a variety of objects, and so on. This vividly conveyed, over and over, that all human beings are spiritually unclean and can’t go into God’s presence without purification.
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But Now Undeniably even in the Old Testament, many writers hinted that the sacrifices and the temple worship regulations pointed forward to something beyond them. (cf. 1 Samuel 15:21-22; Psalm 50:12-15; 51:17; Hosea 6:6).
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When Christ appeared he declared all foods ‘clean’ (Mark 7:19) and he ignored the Old Testament clean laws in other ways, touching lepers and dead bodies.
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When Jesus Christ he died on the cross the veil in the temple was ripped through, confirming that the need for the entire sacrificial system with all its clean laws had been done away with. Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice for sin, and now Jesus makes us “clean.” The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70 Ad was further evidence by God of this too.
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The entire book of Hebrews explains that the Old Testament ceremonial laws were not so much as merely abolished as they were fulfilled by Christ and there is no need of any of them
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Whenever real Christians do we pray ‘in Jesus name’, they do ‘have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus’ (Hebrews 10:19). It would, therefore, be serioulsy wrong, in errors, deeply inconsistent with the teaching of the Bible as a whole if anyone today were to continue to follow the ceremonial laws.
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The New Testament gives us further guidance about how to understand the Old Testament. Paul makes it clear in places like Romans 13:8ff that the apostles understood the Old Testament moral law The Old moral law is an outline of God’s own character—his integrity, love, and faithfulness. And so all the Old Testament says about loving our neighbor, caring for the poor, generosity with our possessions, social relationships, and commitment to our family is now any longer as a result of us trying to live these laws but rather we can be empowoerd by the holy Spirt living in us to live these laws of no killing or committing adultery, and the decent sex ethic (Matthew 5:27-30; 1 Corinthians 6:9-20; 1 Timothy 1:8-11.) If the New Testament has reaffirmed a old Testament commandment, then it is still in force basically for us today otherwise it is not..
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Further, the New Testament details another change between the Testaments. Sins continue to be sins—but the exact enforcement of the penalties change. In the Old Testament things like adultery or incest were punishable with civil sanctions like execution. This is because at that time God’s people existed in the form of a nation-state and so all sins had civil penalties. But in the New Testament the people of God are an gathering of churches all over the world, living where the unrepeant sins of Christian persons are dealt with by exhortation and even by their exclusion from Church attendance, membership. This is how a case of incest in the Corinthian church is dealt with by Paul (1 Corinthians 5:1ff. and 2 Corinthians 2:7-11.) We are all to live by the new Testament teachings and not solely the Old testament too.
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Once you do see the main premise of the Bible—about the surpassing significance of Christ and his salvation—then all the various parts of the Bible will make more real sense. The changes done because of Christ, Old Testament, the ceremonial law repealed. Jesus and the Apostles did teach a departation from the teachings of the Old Testament, especially with regard to Old law, the Torah.
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However, if you reject the teachings of the Church, the Holy Spirit, the new testament, , then of course,your view of the Bible is at best a mish-mash containing some inspiration and wisdom, but most of it would have to be rejected as carnal thinking, false conclusions, foolish or erroneous. Some erroneously think that Moses and as the sole true authority and that Jesus cannot be opposed to the Mosaic law or modify it in any way. Moses himself still was subject to Jesus and all of his laws.
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But the one thing you can really say in fairness is that anyone is being inconsistent with their beliefs, the Bible to accept the moral statements in the Old Testament such as the ten commandments while not practicing the main applicable only ones in the New Testament.. such as being filled with the Holy Spirit..
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Now are you asking me to deny the very heart of real Christian beliefs? for If I believe that Jesus is the the resurrected Son of God, I can’t follow all the old laws of ‘clean laws’ of diet and practice, and I can’t offer animal sacrifices and many other acts that are now redundant too.. as all that would be for me to deny the power of Christ’s death on the cross. And so those who really believe in Christ must follow all the laws of New Testament texts and not any others. All old laws have been redefined, even been superseded by Jesus Christ teachings..
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False Cessationism in unreal Christianity is the doctrine that Apostolic and holy spirit gifts ceased with the original twelve apostles. So what about Apostle Paul and the other apsotles? This is generally opposed to the view of Continuationism, which teaches that the Holy Spirit does still bestow the sign gifts to persons other than the original Twelve Apostles, at any time in the Church age.
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Does the Bible even teach definitively now clearly that the Holy Spirit’s charismatic gifts and the Offices of the Apostles (Missionaries) , Prophets, pastors teacher, have ceased? Can cessationism the false view that they have ended be even proved? Or is another false human reason sings to explain why some churches are still so unspiritual? Let us all stop here and remember that anyone being religious and themselves not being personally Baptized and led now by the Holy Spirit is still a real waste of time. And all they do and say will still fail too.
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When a person says to me be believes in the rapture, eternal security, end times prophesies, that Jesus is coming very soon I know that the they still really did not personally study the New testament, are really Jesus, Holy Spirit, Bible ignorant and what they know of Christians is the teaching of men, not by their own personal real bible study.
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Many persons are inconsistent Christians because “they pick and choose which of the rules in the Bible to obey.” What I hear most often is the “Christians ignore loads of New Testament texts. they are just picking and choosing what they want to believe from the Bible too”
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Cessationism so seem to halve this false knack of reinterpreting the whole Bible to their liking, explaining away the passages they do not like, are clearly know for their selective, pick and chose method in verifying the written Bible. They will refer only to passages which they believe to be conclusive to their views and neglect the others.. if any of the charismatic gifts of 1 Cor 12:7-11 and Eph 4:11 are still functioning today. If miraculous healing is available today then logically so must be the other charismatic gifts, including prophecy and apostleship, and Cessationists fear that this divine empowerment of modern-day individuals would compromise the reality they are still carnal, Unspiritual, not led or filled with the Holy Spirit personally still too.. they can never admit that now ehhh
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Most real Christians still do say that the cessationism cannot be conclusively proved from Scripture and such an attempt is absurd especially since I pray in tongues, give interpretation to tongues, and in front of witnesses prayed for the sick who got instantaneously healed too..
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Once again like most of the Dispensationalists doctrines the word Cessation does not actually come from the Bible but is also a new doctrine. So do spend more time in getting to know God’s words directly, read the Bible more.. and do not rather read what the still mostly liars do say about the Bible, and anything else they say. Men’s opinions are useless to God’s real, whole truth still too! Let God interpret, teach you his word and not the mostly mere, useless men and women. Stop praising mere men and women, praise God and worship him alone.. and you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Now the word of God is generally revealed to us all in two different ways. There is written direct Scripture (the Greek word logos), which shows us all God’s general will. There are next also times when the Holy Spirit quickens a particular Scripture or otherwise gives us a direct word (the Greek word rhema) concerning God’s specific will in a particular situation. We have to be open to both ways too.
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(Isa 66:2 KJV) For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
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The term cessationism comes from the great 17th-century confessions of faith, such as the Westminster and Baptist confessions. Ironic that Cessationalist are experts on tongues supposedly even if they have never used them and that they say the devil does the healing and God does not mostly. Kind of of absurd
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Cessationists fully believe that God can answer a prayer for someone to be physically healed, but again, they differentiate between God’s answer to prayer, and the Apostolic gift of being able to heal-on-demand. Rather, the Holy Spirit is in front of every healing miracle, not the apostle.
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Most Cessationists do not deny that God healed in Bible times or that He can heal today but they falsely say he mostly does not. What they do deny is that it is the purpose of God to heal through anointed men and women at this stage in history. Their view is best summarized as “God can heal today and may occasionally do so, but because we do not live in the ‘apostolic era’ God no longer grants people gifts of healing, and any human claim to possess modern-day gifts of healing are bogus.” Many disagree with them thus here. Cessationists teach that their primary purpose was to authenticate the Apostles’ message as being of divine origin and, therefore, authoritative (Hebrews 2:3-4). Since, however, the completion of the Canon, Ironic their reference verse contradicts this and says the gifts will cease when we see Jesus face to face, but still the Church can test the veracity (or lack thereof) of any message claiming to represent God, against His written revelation having now been completed, rendering any supernatural sign as unnecessary (2 Peter 1:19; see also 2 Timothy 3:16-17), according to the false Cessationists.
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But there is no specific verse in Scripture which tells us that the holy Spirit’s charismatic gifts were in any way a temporary phenomenon – in fact, a straight reading of the New Testament encourages us to expect them to pray for them and to continue and to use them as well! If Cessationalsim was a the genuine teaching of the New Testament then we would expect at least one clear verse in the Bible to warn generations of Christians to expect the Holy Spirit’s charismatic promises of Scripture not to apply to them. But there is no such verse.. Nope not one! Jesus was happy for an anonymous follower to perform miracles despite not being one of the Twelve (Mk 9:38-41), and for all the Seventy-Two to perform miracles (Lk 10:1&9). Luke writes about the miracles of the deacons Stephen (Acts 6:8) and Philip (Acts 8:6-7), and of the rank-and-file Christian Ananias (Acts 9:17-18) without hesitating in case he set unfair expectations for his readers.
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Rather Paul tells the Corinthians that “You do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed” (1Cor 1:7), and he tells them that charismatic gifts will continue until “perfection comes” and “we see face to face” (1Cor 13:9&11).
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Scripture actually tells us what the primary purpose of the charismatic gifts is, including gifts of healing. They are not given for the authentication of Scripture. They are given “for the common good” (1Cor 12:7) and “for the strengthening of the church” (1Cor 14:26), something which is surely just as important today as it was before the canon of Scripture was completed.
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and really if the Cessationists view is correct that gifts of miraculous healing were given to prove that certain men were real apostles and that their writings should therefore be regarded as Holy Scripture, then why is it that many of the key writers of the New Testament were not apostles (Mark, Luke, Jude) or were people who as far as Scripture tells us did not perform any miracles (Mark, Luke, James, Jude)? If the primary purpose of the healing gift was to authenticate the writings of a small group of miracle-working apostles then surely there was a massive misdirection of this gift to the wrong people! The Corinthian and Galatian churches which had stumbled into false doctrine (1Cor 15:12-14, Gal 1:6-7) performed more recorded miracles than the writers of the two of the Gospels (1Cor 1:7&12:9, Gal 3:5)!
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The Cessationists view on healing , gifts, offices is very unhealthy and damaging. It performs so many exegetical contortions that it actually devalues the very Scriptures it aims to protect. In addition, since Paul writes that unless “signs and miracles” had been part of his preaching around the Roman Empire then he would not have “fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ” (Rom 15:18-19), Cessationalism we find that it actually dares to falsely tamper with the Full Gospel which was given us by Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Christ is the sole head of the Church, even today and not the Dispensationalists, Cessationalists.
Now after Jesus was resurrected and after he was seen by many in the space of about forty days, He next instructed His disciples to remain in Jerusalem and, “…wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence” (Acts 1:4-5). Before the arrival of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, the disciples were all together in one place, number about one hundred and twenty all together ((Acts 1:15 KJV) And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)). Peter then discusses with the entire group the need for a replacement for Judas. (Acts 1:23 KJV) And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. “And they appointed two …” (v. 23), it is apparent that the entire 120 members participated in making this appointment. Third, we notice that the saints did not seek their own will in this decision. Neither did they look to any man for direction. They wanted God to make the final decision. They had cast lots so that God’s will would be made know.
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New Testament scripture clearly still does not support a pyramidal one directional hierarchical structure of government in God’s Church. “And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles …. Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word” (Acts 8:1,4). From these verses we clearly see that everyone was preaching the Gospel. The evangelistic work of God was also not at all a one man show.
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Also do note that in Acts 2, where we read about the birth of the New Testament Church through the outpouring of God’s Holy Spirit. The Holy spirit was given directly by God to every single member present initially but next it was done by the laying on by the hands of the elders on every single person? evidenced by the person also speaking in tongues initially by every single person baptized with the Holy Spirit. I know it happened to me.
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God “hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, which is his body, the fullness of him that filleth all in all” (Eph. 1:22-23). The Father “hath committed all judgment unto the Son: … And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man” (John 5:22-27). We don’t have to answer to men. We are not accountable to the dictates of men. Mutual, reversible accountability and submission is an integral part of the New Testament church structure rather still and of all true churches today as well For this reason Paul says, ” why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ” (Romans 14:10). Even next Apostle Paul rebuked Peter directly as recorded in the New testament. (Rom 12:9 KJV) Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. (Gal 2:13 KJV) And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.(Gal 2:14 KJV) But when I( Apostle Paul) saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? Even Apostle Paul does not always pull rank. Acts 15: 4 we see, “they were received of the church and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.” Afterwards, the certain Pharisees rose up and raised the dispute. Then they all got together to resolve the issue with all the Apostles and elders. We know that the entire Church was involved in the final discussion because the multitude is referred to in verse 12, and when James summarized the conclusion, we read, “Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church … ” (v. 22).
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Also apostle Paul clearly WAS NOT one OF THE original 12 OR the 13th apostle..
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(1 Cor 1:1 KJV) Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God
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(1 Cor 9:1 KJV) Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?
For we know that in the Church of Christ there were more than just the 12 original apostles.. An Apostle is a calling, who job description is being the senior father of the church, he is generally the, an original church starter, he is the equivalent today of a Missionary, and he or she tends to have all, note all of the gifts of the Holy spirit. Apostle are generally characterized by the much persecutions and sufferings they bear too.. One generally tends to work one way up in the church and the last administrative position is the Apostle.. the job below the apostle are the prophets who are often found in the company of apostles, and generally below the prophets are the pastors -teachers who take the advice from the Prophets.. many pastor teachers deny the existence of apostles, prophets cause they are in sin and falsely refuse to submit to their authorities.. Some pastors today actually function in the role of an Apostle, but do not use the title.. and the elders are made up of the local pastors teachers, prophets, apostles.. there are women apostles.. such as Junia (Rom 16:7 KJV) Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me… and women prophetess (by the way Apostle and prophets can be divorcees.. while pastor teachers cannot..) Evangelists is a separate gifted persons to the church, also one of the elders, generally has a healing or miracles gifts, tend to travel from church to church, city while missionaries tend to be fixed.. Generally in the local Church the apostle is referred to as an elder.. as are the prophets, pastor teachers, evangelists.. Now as to a ruling elder, the church administrator, the Bishop…an apostle, he tends to be responsible for a specific flock of churches in the geographical area.. he is the the most senior original apostle or his gifted appointee. God selects and equips the church leaders, the church confirms it.. The New Testament office of an Apostle supposedly also had no parallel for sure in the Old Testament and I would agree that a more valid Biblical definition of an “Apostle is a matured Holy Spirit anointed Christian person who has experienced all the gifts of the Holy Spirit… in other words he the Apostle has also personally had functioned in the role of prophet, pastor, teacher, evangelist, miracle worker, healer, giver, helper.. etc., and that was why they have been given such importance in their roles now too. Mind you that is a general definition, the original 12 Apostles and Apostle Paul do not fully meet this criteria.
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EPHESIANS 2:20 still does reminds us that the church of today as well is “built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone”. Note the inclusion of the New Testament prophets with the apostles as the continual. ongoing foundation of the church. “That these prophets are NT prophets cannot be seriously questioned, especially in the light of Eph. 3:5 where the apostles and prophets again are found together as recipients of the revelation of the mystery that the Spirit has “now” made known.” And the gift of prophecy to the church was also to be eagerly sought.
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(Eph 4:11 KJV) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Because many they have also wrongfully neglected the continual Greek verse tense here in the passage, stating thus God keeps on giving these anointed persons, offices, some persons would wrongfully state that there is clear implications there being only one historic “foundation” and that once a foundation is laid, it does not need to go on being laid thus pointing to a SUPPOSEDLY temporary nature and cessation of the office of Apostle.or Prophet now as well.
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The Christian Church foundational, original organization plan, while truly first set in Pentecost is actually repeated daily today as well when we now do build any new church work. In any new local church work the apostles, and the NT prophets are continually raised up by still by God for them to serve in the founding, foundations of the new church work. Once this task was, is complete, these offices of apostles and prophet’s were still needed even next in the administration and expanding the new church work and even by next also building another one, Now how come some people do not want to see this too? “In Eph. 2:20, apostles and prophets are closely linked. They are both important components of the one foundation. Ephesians would actually indicate that we are dealing with two groups of specifically gifted people. In Eph. 4:11 we are told that Christ “gave some to be apostles, some prophets…” Here both nouns have their own definite article. They are clearly two separate groups. Let’s also STILL note the important position accorded to New Testament prophets. In Eph. 4:11 they are mentioned second only to apostles. Their importance is also seen in Rom. 12:6-8, where the first gift mentioned is prophecy. Similarly, 1 Cor. 12:28 lists “first apostles, second prophets, third…”
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God uses the vine as the structure of government in His Church in the New Testament. The elders being the main branches. The New Testament Church is a spirit-led church. It is not a human organization. It is a spiritual organism where the living head is Jesus Christ himself. Jesus said, “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing” (John 15:5). God uses the vine to typify organization of the Church. In God’s model, every member is a branch. Every member in the true church is connected directly to Christ with no intermediaries. By using the vine, Jesus showed us that God’s government does not take the form of a pyramid. He did not give us the idea that members are connected to him through a descending chain of command. The structure of the church is not a tree structure. It is a vine structure.
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Ephesians 4:11. Earlier in the chapter, Paul reminds us that “There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;” (v. 4). All persons who have received Jesus as Lord and have received the Holy Spirit are a part of the body of Christ. Paul continued, saying there is “One Lord (not several in an ascending chain of command), one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” Paul next states, “But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men” (vv. 7-8). Clearly the positions discussed in the following verses are the gifts that Jesus gave to men. The gifts are listed as follows: “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:” (vv. 11-12).
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(Heb 3:1 KJV) Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; (Acts 2:42 KJV) And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
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Some persons still do teach a false and an extreme doctrine here. They say the word of God alone is the only, sole authority for all. Each member of the Church must prove everything from the Word of God himself, then each member now needs only to follow the Word of God and nothing, no one else. The Word of God, the Bible becomes the Head of the Church. The true structure of government in the Church is still what we can all a “Christ-archy,” “christocracy,” or simply a “Theocracy” — “Theos” of course being the Greek word for God. In God’s true Church, He Jesus Christ is still always the Head. We thus now don’t follow any men. Well Jesus is still the head of the church, but he also speaks now by his Holy Spirit, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, even by Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists, Bishops- Elders.. and not just by the Bible thumpers now too.
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In Matthew 20:20-26 we read of an incident where the mother of James and John, along with her sons, lobbied for the “top” two positions in the Kingdom under Christ. (Mat 20:23 KJV) And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. Jesus also has promised, “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne” (Rev. 3:21). Everyone who enters God’s kingdom will share in the rulership of the world. We will lead the nations as a family, as a Kingdom of priests. All who sit with Christ on His throne will be given “power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father” (Rev. 2:26-27).
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After Jesus explained that he could not give them such a position above the other saints whom he had called, the other ten Apostles, having overheard the discussion, “were moved with indignation against the two brethren” (Mat. 20:24).
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“”But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them [the Greek term translated “exercise dominion” is “katakurieuo”, which means “downward lordship” or “hierarchical control”] and they that are great exercise authority [Greek “katexousiazo” meaning “downward control”] upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant: Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many” (Mat. 20:25-28).
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, “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses” (Mat. 23:2, New American Standard version). Speaking of them he said, “But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, and love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren” (Mat. 23:5-8).
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Jesus told us not to call men Rabbi because we are all brethren. The only one over us is Christ. Jesus is our Master. Everyone else is on the same level. There are no inferior ranks in the body of Christ.
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Jesus continued saying, “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted” (v. 9-12).
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(Rom 14:1 KJV) Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. (Prov 9:9 KJV) Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning
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(1 Cor 14:26 KJV) How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
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(1 Cor 14:39 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
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Don’t firstly even be under the false illusion that Satan no longer opposes or does not try to discredit today any Christian truth.. he will do so instantly, and even use one of his followers to do it too and they will quote even the Bible to do so too. Check first everything with the word of God, the Bible for yourself. Don’t accept the too often false words of mere men and women rather.
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(1 Cor 10:21 KJV) Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils. 22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
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(Jer 9:2 KJV) Oh that I had in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men; that I might leave my people, and go from them! for they be all adulterers, an assembly of treacherous men. 3 And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD. 4 Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders. 5 And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity. 6 Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.
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(Isa 28:7 KJV) But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
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(Jer 14:14 KJV) Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart
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(Jer 13:17 KJV) But if ye will not hear it, my soul shall weep in secret places for your pride; and mine eye shall weep sore, and run down with tears, because the Lord’s flock is carried away captive.
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(Micah 7:2 KJV) The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net. 3 That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up. 4 The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity. 5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom. 6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house. 7 Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.
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(Hosea 12:7 KJV) He is a merchant, the balances of deceit are in his hand: he loveth to oppress.
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I want you also to remember always that some persons do still have a false, visible or hidden agenda, for hopeful personal economic gains, power, and even THE FALSE oppression of others and that is why they do misinterpret the Bible to their now falls inclinations including the books of Paul, Revelation and Joel, the bad elders, pastors included. It should be very obvious that many Bible verses do warn, state the reality of a personal negative consequences here one earth next for those who do not follow fully after God, for those who do not care about the good welfare of others, do not help the poor and needy persons, to all those persons who counsel divorce as well, twist the word of God too…. and yes there are real negative personal consequences here on earth as well as in heaven. The issue of gifts often does sirs up controversy, the kind that Satan is behind it.. he wants it all to be still a secret too. (Rom 14:1 KJV) Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
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(Isa 29:13 KJV) Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
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2 Pet 1:19 – 21, 2:1 – 3, “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto you do well that you take heed, as unto a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privately shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying Jesus that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.”
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(Gal 5:22 KJV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
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(2 Cor 4:7 KJV) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
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What is Dispensationalism?
Michael J. Vlach, Ph.D. of TheologicalStudies.org describes it in the following way.
Since the mid-1800s, the system of theology known as dispensationalism has exerted great influence on how many Christians view the doctrines of ecclesiology and eschatology. In this article, we will survey the history of dispensationalism and look at the key beliefs associated with the system.
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History of Dispensationalism
Theologians continue to argue over the origin of dispensationalism. Those who are dispensationalists argue that the basic beliefs of dispensationalism were held by the apostles and the first generation church. Those who are not dispensationalists often argue that dispensationalism is a new theology that began in the 19th century. What is clear, though, is that dispensationalism, as a system, began to take shape in the mid-1800s.
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1. John Nelson Darby The beginning of systematized dispensationalism is usually linked with John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), a Plymouth Brethren minister. While at Trinity College in Dublin (1819), Darby came to believe in a future salvation and restoration of national physical Israel. Based on his study of Isaiah 32, Darby concluded that Israel, in a future dispensation, would enjoy earthly blessings that were different from the heavenly blessings experienced by the church. He thus saw a clear distinction between Israel and the church. Darby also came to believe in an “any moment” rapture of the church that was followed by Daniel’s Seventieth Week in which physical Israel would once again take center stage in God’s plan. After this period, Darby believed there would be a millennial kingdom in which God would fulfill His unconditional promises with Israel. According to Paul Enns, “Darby advanced the scheme of dispensationalism by noting that each dispensation places man under some condition; man has some responsibility before God. Darby also noted that each dispensation culminates in failure.” Darby saw seven dispensations: (1) Paradisaical state to the Flood; (2) Noah; (3) Abraham; (4) Israel; (5) Gentiles; (6) The Spirit; and (7) The Millennium. By his own testimony, Darby says his dispensational theology was fully formed by 1833.
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2. The Brethren Movement Dispensationalism first took shape in the Brethren Movement in early nineteenth century Britain. Those within the Brethren Movement rejected a special role for ordained clergy and stressed the spiritual giftedness of ordinary believers and their freedom, under the Spirit’s guidance, to teach and admonish each other from Scripture. The writings of the Brethren had a broad impact on evangelical Protestantism and influenced ministers in the United States such as D. L. Moody, James Brookes, J. R. Graves, A. J. Gordon, and C. I. Scofield.
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3. The Bible Conference Movement Beginning in the 1870s, various Bible conferences began to spring up in various parts of the United States. These conferences helped spread Dispensationalism. The Niagara conferences (1870—early 1900s) were not started to promote dispensationalism but dispensational ideas were often promoted at these conferences. The American Bible and Prophetic Conferences from 1878—1914 promoted a dispensational theology.
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4. The Bible Institute Movement In the late 1800s, several Bible institutes were founded that taught dispensational theology including The Nyack Bible Institute (1882), The Boston Missionary Training School (1889), and The Moody Bible Institute (1889).
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5. The Scofield Reference Bible C. I. Scofield, a participant in the Niagara conferences, formed a board of Bible conference teachers in 1909 and produced what came to be known as, the Scofield Reference Bible. This work became famous in the United States with its theological annotations right next to the Scripture. This reference Bible became the greatest influence in the spread of dispensationalism.
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6. Dallas Theological Seminary After World War I, many dispensational Bible schools were formed. Led by Dallas Theological Seminary (1924), dispensationalism began to be promoted in formal, academic settings. Under Scofield, dispensationalism entered a scholastic period that was later carried on by his successor, Lewis Sperry Chafer. Further promotion of dispensationalism took place with the writing of Chafer’s eight-volume Systematic Theology.
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The false doctrine of Dispensationalsim and the idea that the Israelites in the Old Testament were ethnic “Jews” have absolutely NO basis in the Scriptures. They are concoctions of “man” and NOT of God! More precisely, they are concoctions of the present-day Jews – the “spiritual” offspring of the Pharisees who Jesus strongly rebuked because by their traditions, they made the “Scriptures of no effect.” It was the Pharisees, the leaders of the Organized “church” of the day – who called for the death of Jesus Christ. Their Messiah came – but they didn’t recognize Him. Instead, they killed Him.
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The dispensational structuring of history was unknown to the Church prior to 1830
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Though the Dispensationalist Christians pride themselves in a literal interpretation of the Bible – particularly the prophetic portions – they apparently are unaware that it is a sign of a very immature Christian. It is a sign of a Christian who has only heard about Christ, but does not know Him personally.
B.ut the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit (spiritual things) of God; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they (spiritual things) are spiritually discerned (understood). 1 Cor 2:14
The Natural man (the soulish or unspiritual man) understands only with his five senses. He has “sense” knowledge but NO “revelation” knowledge. He cannot understand spiritual things. He interprets the prophetic portions of the Bible literally rather than spiritually and symbolically.
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And as 1 Cor 2:14 states plainly, a literal interpretation of the prophetic Scriptures is not only wrong, but it is foolishness and a clear sign of spiritual immaturity.
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“The natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God (spiritual things): for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know (understand) them, because they (spiritual things) are spiritually discerned (understood).
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The false doctrine of “Dispensationalism” is based on a literal interpretation of the prophetic Scriptures – a sure sign of error – a sure sign of their“foolishness.”
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Dispensationalist, Cessation is a false teaching.. for example look at this passage.. and see how the dispensationalist people falsely lie and misinterpret it too
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Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love. (1 Co 13:8â13)
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To properly define and understand the passage now the first thing we have to do is to define the work perfect.. but we need to define it i’s the context usage as well.. so who are what is the perfect being referred to now? in Honestly or in truth?
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Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
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Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
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Luke 1:3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
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Luke 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
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Luke 8:14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
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Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
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John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
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Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
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Ephesians 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
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Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
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Colossians 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
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Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
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Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
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Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
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Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
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Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
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Hebrews 13:21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
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James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
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James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
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James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
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James 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
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1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
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So how is pereect used as ? Is it realy the King James Bible? we know it is not perfect…nor any other Bible translation.. Is it the Bible itself? the Bible is perfect even of our interpretation of it is not always prefect? or is rather the perfect person, the one who never had sinned? only one person was perfect.. without sin and it was God -Jesus christ.
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John 8: 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin…. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
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Now look at the same pasasage in this light but when theonly perfect person Jesus christ comes back comes, the partial will be done away. .. but then I will see Jesus Christ face to face; So now when do the Holy Spirit gifts really cease then? Is this not reasonable?
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Dispensationalists, Cessationists, like many other teachers of error, too often take one passage out of the context of the overall letter, divorce it from the co-text, and make it a pre-text, even make it major doctrine absurdly to suit their own falsely predefined meanings… “Their clearly hideous argument approach is a logical impossibility demanding an abortive extraction of the term from the text, context, and co-texts in order to construct a demonstrably hollow argument that cannot be exegetically or inductively supported”. They seek to establish faulty doctrinal positions derived not from anything fully, actually stated in Scripture but from what actually amounts to nothing more than their human own opinions They do this with the subjects of the holy spirit, Zionism, Eternal Security, Rapture, end time prophecies too..
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“Somebody ought to tell the truth about the Bible. The preachers dare not, because they would be driven from their pulpits. Professors in colleges dare not, because they would lose their salaries. Politicians dare not. They would be defeated. Editors dare not. They would lose subscribers. Merchants dare not, because they might lose customers. Men of fashion dare not, fearing that they would lose caste. Even clerks dare not, because they might be discharged. And so I thought I would do it myself . . . ” Robert G. Ingersoll
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Face it only one religion pays the price for all of your sins, past, present future, by Jesus Christ, and gives you now complete assurance of your forgiveness by faith and that is Christianity.. only one religious leader died and resurrected again and that was Jesus Christ.. all the others are demonic religions.. not worth discussing.
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THE PROMISE of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit of God IS also FOR YOU today even.
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“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” John 3:5-6
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Now had most fundamentals evangelicals actually read their Bibles, known the Bible instead of wrongfully listening to the so called Bible teachers, false preachers, bad teachers they would not have easily deceived to neglect the present full empowerment available of all believers by the Holy Spirit…
Dispensationalism (hereafter termed “D.P.”) relies on one foundational tenet which I believe to be absolutely unscriptural; and that is that Christ’s teachings were and are only addressed to Israel after the flesh. According to D.P., Christ’s preaching of the Gospel of the Kingdom was to herald an immediate setting up of His kingdom of glory, which the Jews rejected by crucifying Him. This resulted in a postponement of further preaching of Christ’s Gospel, which awaits a future time, when, after the church is raptured up, it will once again be held out to Israel.
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Now according to the D.P. theory, all of Christ’s teachings lie outside the pale of the church. My response to this error is twofold: Firstly, Christ did not begin preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom until after He had been confirmed as the Second Adam, or Seed of the Woman (Matt. 4: 1-11; cf. Gen. 3: 1-6). Thus His teachings have a universal frame of reference that relates to all mankind.
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Secondly, while I agree that the Gospel of the Kingdom was first preached to Jews only, their rejection of that message resulted in the same Gospel being offered to the Gentiles. Note that there were never two or three or four Gospels. The same Gospel which was offered to the Jews and rejected by them was then offered to the Gentiles (Acts 13: 46, 28: 25-28).
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Of course, it is important to see that the entire Gospel message moves from law to grace. Christ’s teachings reveal the true nature of the moral law, whereas those of His inspired apostles and successors (especially Paul) reveal to us Divine grace in its fullness. This later emphasis on grace, however, does not mean that the Ephesian and Colossian churches were under a different dispensation. It only means that they had become mature enough to move from law to grace. The Pauline epistles, whch are so often abused, are suited to those only who show some progress in their Christian walk; while Christ’s teachings should be employed to show men the first steps of salvation.
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All Christian instruction begins with the teachings of Jesus Christ. As He Himself commanded: “Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world” (Matt. 28: 19-20). It may be seen from this Scripture that the Gospel of the Kingdom is to be preached to all nations–not to the Jews only. In fact, it was Israel’s rejection of the promised Messiah that led to the extension of salvation to “all nations.”
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What I am saying is this: the Gospel preached by Christ is not different from that preached by Paul. Nor are there two Gospels for two different dispensations. The law and the prophets were until John, and from thenceforth the Kingdom of God was preached (Luke 16: 16). The Gospel of the Kingdom is contained in the New Testament; and “rightly dividing the word of truth” involves discerning which elements are best fitted for the instruction of Christian disciples. To a congregation of shallow, worldly-minded converts, I would never dream of preaching the Pauline doctrines of grace, but would preach from, say, Christ’s teachings and the epistle of James. But to an assembly of mature, well-grounded Christians, the pure grace of Ephesians would be more in place.
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To suppose that because the apostles taught supplementary revelations of the Gospel (John 16: 12-13) they were under a different dispensation, is to add confusion to the mix. In one of Paul’s very last epistles, he wrote: “If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words” &c. (1 Tim. 6: 3-4). Thus, it is obvious that Paul, far from considering the teachings of Jesus Christ abrogated, commanded Timothy to make sure they were being taught in the assemblies.
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Another reason why I am not a D.P. is because that system holds to an unscriptural separation of Jews and Gentiles in Christ. We are blandly told that Hebrews and 1st epistle of Peter are not for the church, inasmuch as they were written to “Jewish Christians” of the Dispersion. This kind of quibbling is not only mischievous, but potentially dangerous. For it ends in the belief that Christ has a different plan for Jewish Christians than He does for Gentile ones.
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This theory is refuted in Ephesians, where Paul states (by implication) that saved Gentiles are now members of the commonwealth of Israel (Eph. 2: 12); and (expressly) that a main effect of Christ’s atonement would be the creation of “one new man” composed of both Jews and Gentiles, the middle wall of partition (mesotoichon) being taken away (Eph. 2: 13-15).
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The “middle wall” is a reference to the stone palisade, about three cubits high, which separated the court of the Gentiles from that of the Jews. Paul is plainly stating that “in Christ” Gentiles obtain privileges that were previously restricted to the Jews alone. Taking this truth into consideration, how can any Christian teacher declare with a straight face that the destiny and hope of Jewish & Gentile believers are in any way opposite?
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This discrepancy brings me to a third point I wanted to raise concerning Dispensationalism; and that is the revelation of the “mystery” first mentioned in Romans 16: 25. The D.P.’s claim that this “mystery” was the church, which before Christ’s atoning work was not at all revealed to the sons of men.
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As I see it, this view contains two major flaws. Firstly, it is evident from Paul’s own words that the “church” was not the mystery to be disclosed. The “mystery” was that the “Gentiles would be fellow-heirs and of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ by the Gospel” (Eph. 3: 6).
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Secondly, Paul never claimed that the mystery hadn’t been previously declared. He merely said that it was not known “as it is now revealed unto His holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit” (Eph. 3: 5). The Divine promise that Gentiles would be fellow-heirs with the Jews was declared by Noah, who prophesied: “God shall enlarge Japheth (the Gentiles), and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem (Israel): and Canaan shall be His servant” (Gen. 9: 27). Of course, previous to Christ’s first advent, this promise was wrapped up in dark types and figures. However, it was not totally concealed, as D.P.’s claim.
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Naturally, there are other areas in which I disagree with Dispensationalism.
http://antipreterist.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/why-im-not-a-dispensationalist//
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Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons services everyone’s best interest
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Why did so many Jews, Messianic Jews still do hate Jesus Christ , the Church and persecute the Christians? They will not go to a Christian church falsely too.
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Some people have the impression that Jewish hostility for Christianity began only after Jews experienced persecution by Christians. Actually, Jewish hostility toward Jesus Christ and His church has been ongoing for the last 2000 years still. The main problem still is that the Jews hate the New Testament and the New People of God , the Christians, Apostle Paul too.. even Jesus in reality.. Jews today still have the mindset of Jesus’ enemies in the first century, The problem even with the Messianic Jews and most JEWS is that they are color blind.. they can only see things through a Jewish perspective.. not the reality.. I’ve never felt so HATED for being a real Christian in all my life like I have been by the false Jewish only lovers and Messianic Jews ! The early Christians were stoned and persecuted by Jews basically it was because of the Jews unbelief and fear their religion/tradition would be undermined, and that is still true today. But also Paul still said there is neither Greek nor Jew, slave nor free, male or female but all one on Christ Jesus.
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Traditionally, any Jew who has publicly professed Jesus as Savior, Lord, and Messiah is a “Christian” who leaves fully his Judaism and and is typically ostracized by Jewish community and family even.. often true. The false Jewish stumbling block is too often still Jesus Christ.. .. Messianic Jews who falsely claim that “I want to help the Christians in churches but my spirit cannot take it there much longer. And I’ll not have my daughter identifying with those who hate our Judaic heritage. “You are NOT meant to stay in a Christian church on a permanent basis”. is a false diversion.
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To be fair, every Messianic Jew tends to falsely says they love Yeshua, Jews and they love Israel only and they falsely are still mimicking Jewish religious and identity behaviors, so very typically the Christians rightfully people accuse these Jewish people of error, racism and false partiality exclusionism and other unpleasant things, As it is typically like having your Jewish neighbor burst through your Christian Home front door, raid your fridge for food even , say that they’re moving in, and you have to “share” your stuff too the food, bed, clothes, toothbrush) with them forever…and you don’t have a say in the matter: Dream on..
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JESUS CHRIST DOES STILL EXPECTS THEM ALSO TO GIVE UP SELF, ALL FOR THEM, THEIR JUDAIC VALUES, Jewish HERITAGE JUST LIKE ALL THE APOSTLES DID EXCEPT FOR JUDAS. JUDAS IS STILL SELLING OUT JESUS CHRIST FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER.
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2 Peter 2: 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the daytime. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet.17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
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Is there any record of the supposed Christian hate of Jews in the three hundred years after the beginning of the Christian church even? but what today if you do not agree with a Jew it is supposedly hatred towards them.. Can a Jewish person hide behind their false religion and spew out hate for Jesus and Christians as was done in the Passover Plot and other Jewish attacks using the arts, stage, movies, etc to accomplish these acts? If the Jews openly blasphemed Jesus and do even blaspheme Christians today, should they be treated as friends or foes? Would we not rather rightfully say such a Jew was provoking, asking for hate to be shown towards him or her, and are we to falsely respect them for use of free speech to spew out this hate? No we would assume that Jews then played a major role in most of the hatred towards the Jews, Zionism. Jewish persons are still antichrist because of their Jewish religion
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The Apostle Paul was firm against the Jews who hated Jesus and Christians. He held the doctrine of Jesus doctrinally unequaled by any other Apostle. Perhaps being a former Pharisee, he knew the tricks and methodology they would use to try and destroy the Faith of Jesus Christ. So he put the did not hesitate to put his Faith into written form like the Pharisees had done with the Babylonian Traditions of the Elders. Is the continued hatred by many Jews of the Apostle Paul, the New Testament, and Jesus, proof of Jews hating JESUS? YES. Today, Jewish hatred of Jesus, Jews and Gentile converts to Christian Judaism remains a 2,000 year old sad and unforgivable sin. And if God torn down Jerusalem provoking Titus to bid his will destroying also the temple because of their bloodshed of Christians (especially the killing of Apostle James the half-brother of the Lord in 66-67AD), would anything they build over there in Jerusalem and on the Temple mount be blessed as long as the hate continues? Is it possible that God will turn and bless what he has cursed for nearly 2,000 years?
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JEWS, MESSIANIC JEWS, OTHERS STILL DO TOO OFTEN SPREAD FALSE SPECIFIC MISINFORMATION ABUT CHRIST, JESUS THE CHURCH. As they are rather still bullies who want their own ways. I rightfully question both the Jewish and Messianic Jew hatred, bad attitude of hate towards Christians,
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The Messianic Jews are really Non-Jewish Christians with messed up belief systems and do too often use lies and deceit .Christianity, has kept the teachings of Jesus and his apostles and disciples intact for the past twenty centuries, so must the Messianic Jews too., I’m still also fully concerned about Jews, Messianic Jews Hebrew Roots false hatred, bad attitudes towards Christians and Christian churches. Their unacceptable hatred of them.I encounter it often on the net personally now too. I don’t hate Jews.But when anyone, Jews and Judiazers now too, to characterize the Church as “Babylon” or claim Christians are “lawless” or say they hate the Jews,lie and say that the Christians re racists, anti-Semites, I take offense. Undeniably the Church going Real Christians for 20 centuries have helped persons of all races.. even now donate food to the hungry, donate time in homeless shelters, donate time in food banks, pray for the sick, others, have built, formed schools, universities, hospitals, do help the orphans, visit the sick in hospitals and homes, participate in prison ministries, mow the lawns of disabled people, shovel snow off the drives and sidewalks of the infirm and elderly in the winter, comfort the grief-stricken person whose spouse has just died and much much more…Bashing all the churches, Christians is very immoral..
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If a supposedly offended Jewish person wants to drag up all of history concerning mistreatment and abuse as justification for hate, could not this same practice be used by Christians as justification for dislike of Jews who have mistreated and abused Christians over the same centuries? This may be hard since Jews hate them because of their religious choice to believe in Jesus as the Messiah. An examination of the Old Testament in the fighting between the ten north tribes and the two south tribes seems to be Jewish anti-Semitism of Jew against Jew. The Jews who followed the pagan religion of Baal and cow worship, hated the true God worshipers in the southern tribes of Judah and Benjamin. This amounted to the seed of David tribe vs the northern ten tribes under non-Davidic usurpers and evil kings. The hatred was rooted in political and theological differences of theocracy vs humanism. That Jewish hatred continues down to today. The Jewish persecution of Christians and Christian Jews in the first century continued that diseased Jewish mind that taught religious hatred. Teaching others this hate by practice of it, has rather backfired upon all Jews afterward. Jewish lies concerning Jesus has continued this whole mess; Hiring Aquila (100-129AD) to censor the Greek Scriptures of the Old Testament taking out and retranslating text Christians used to verify Jesus was the Messiah, was seen by Christians as profane conduct, and gave Christians a negative view of the Jews from then onward in matters of Biblical interpretation. Jews still freely using occult practices now embodied in the Kabbalah, borrowed from Gnosticism and Babylonian influence made the rift even wider between Pharisee Judaism and the Christians…Jewish use of the Zodiac of witchcraft right on Synagogue floors may have sent the wrong signals to Christians (Encyclopedia of Judaism Vol 1, page 252, Zodiac on the floor of the Bet Alpha Synagogue 500-600AD; Ibid, Vol 3, page 52, Zodiac from a mahzor in Germany 1342AD). Were Christians to pretend these events had not happened? Were they to still view the Jews as a holy people when their mingling of occult practices with their religion threw up all sorts of flags of caution.. Over the centuries Christians observed the Pharisees adapting their Judaism of the first century with occult teachings. They saw fortune tellers, mystics, palm readers, use of the tarot, symbols of witchcraft, rise of the use of the hex (star of Rempham), and conclusive proofs Phariseeism had adopted paganism as the esoteric side of that religion. The process of Jews hating Christians crosses many centuries and as far as Christians are concerned began with Phariseeism (Now called Orthodox or Talmudism) upon the crucifixion of Jesus, persecution of his followers, and then manipulation of the Roman Empire to hate Christians with extreme cruelty. Can we merely forget what Jews are really still like? Two of the worlds greatest anti-Semites were Karl Marx and Adolph Hitler and both were of Jewish birth. Rosenberg, another Jewi argued: “Christianity was to be extirpated as a Jewish disease” (Jews, God, and History, p 323). And this Rosenberg was an important insider policy maker of the Nazi party and friend and confidant of Hitler. Jewish Messianism (Talmudic Phariseeism) is the socialistic system of government that many Jews believe will reign in the millennial golden utopia when Israel will rule the world. They believe socialistic communism is that form of government witht the Jews at it’s helm. How could any Christian then support communism in any form? The Gentiles did not overnight birth any anti-Semitism in modern times, they were provoked and led into it by philosophical reasonings and the preaching of two new world orders under the too often perverse Jewish leadership world wide, in Russia now too.. Can we realy trust other Jews who might come along and say they are going to show us how we should worship, live religiously, or treat others? Never.. it is not wrong to eye with suspicion any claims by any Jewish person even that Christians should throw away their religious faith and morals, to follow some other philosophy or socially acceptable “new world order” system of justice or belief. for out of Jerusalem shall still arise a coming world ruler who will wreck the world one last time with death and destruction?
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Life is so cheap for Jews and others when for centuries they have abandoned the teachings of Jesus to accept the philosophies of Spinoza, Marx, Nietzsche, Rosenberg, and Hitler. Check the background of these clowns and you will find them deep into Kabbalah, witchcraft, and the occult. The very symbols of their new world orders are occult connected and may reveal more than some are willing to believe if the truth was told. Why are these occult secret societies to which Marx and Hitler belonged not slandered as sources of their anti-Semitism and infection of disease that destroyed their minds? I know of no Christian who is alleged to have brainwashed Hitler into his anti-Semitic mindset. Where then did he get it? Was it not from that yokel who was his philosopher and mentor, …the antichrist Friedrich Nietzsche, an alleged wicca occultist grande? There were many Jews in both Marx’s and Hitler’s regimes. Why is this seldom mentioned? And these were not alleged converts to Christianity! Why is it hidden that Hitler was Jewish by birth? Or is it, that if known, Gentiles might in their ignorance want to accuse all Jews of having his diseased mind? Jews still do hate of other nations when there is a need to justify military attacks and mass killings of other people. How could any Jew be a Communist or a Nazi? Jews are also still brainwashed by their own religion to justify an bad attitude or bad conduct against even the Gentiles, Christians. Christians do not pretend to have all the answers, but many are getting tired of the Jews blaming Christianity for anti-Semitism when history gives us evidence they practiced it themselves when it suits their own ends, Communism and Hitler proofs of it? I would remind everyone that the crucifixion of Jesus Messiah was the direct result of Jewish hatred against another Jew, the BEST JEW who ever lived! There has been no apology.
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Jews can be atheist, apostate, homosexual, lesbian, Communist, Mafia, and a number of other religions such as New Age, Wicca, Satanism, Hindu, Buddhist, etc, and they are not disenfranchised. They are allowed to immigrate as full-fledged Jews? But if a Jew confess faith in Jesus Messiah they are hated and barred from the country of Israel as immigrants. Wow! This hate was because they were Christian. To justify this hate they had a law made that specifically was designed to keep Jewish Christians from living in Israel. When Jews hate other Jews because they are Christian and believe in Jesus as the Messiah, they are then as diseased in the mind as those they accuse in the Western World of anti-Semitism. Israel isto be just as much a homeland for Messianic Jews and Gentile converts to Christian Judaism as any other type of Jew, even as the Communist Jews those many who came from Russia, 60 perecent of them too..
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Many Christians believe the destruction of Jerusalem was because of that hatred and persecution. And if God is counting bodies of Messianic Jews killed by Jews or at the hand of Jews (openly or secretly), then His revenge is equal to the number killed. This answers then God’s judgment upon Israel in 70AD and permissive will in the deaths of others since that time. The wrath of God revealed in the seven Seals, the seven Trumpets, and the seven Vials, proves someone is going to pay and I would dare say this will not be just upon Jews but Gentiles also. And if the cup of blood is not yet full demanding judgment speedily, then when it reaches the brim, there remains a final judgment unless both Jews and Gentiles around the world come to a quick repentance and get right with God.
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If you are trying to be justified by the Law you have been severed from Christ and fallen from grace (Gal. 5:4 NASB)!!! Christians under the New Covenant have a much higher calling to holiness than did the Old Testament saints under the Law of Moses. Does this sound as though grace is a license to sin?; Of course not.Under the Old Covenant God’s people were given laws that they could not keep because of the sinful nature. They were not given the Holy Spirit power available now to all anointed Christians to keep the Law, that is, they were not given grace as Christians have under the New Covenant
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Is the New Covenant a better covenant? Yes. Jesus “is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises” (Heb. 8:6). The apostle Paul, a Jew who was of the tribe of Benjamin, a Pharisee and the son of a Pharisee, said he was not under the Law (1 Cor. 9:20 NIV, NASB), so why do you believe that you are under the Law, if you have been born again? Paul wrote, “We [Jews who have been born again] have been released from the Law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom. 7:6).;
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Jesus Christ, who is God manifested in the flesh, said the greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. He also said that anyone who rejects Him rejects the One (the Father) who sent Him. This means that since all unsaved Jews reject Jesus they do not receive or worship God the Father, either. For true Christians, this also means that if you do not obey the greatest N.T. commandment you are living in known, unconfessed sin. In these last days of apostasy of true Christians, the vast majority of true Christians are living in sin and unless they repent, they will be overcome by the soon-coming Antichrist, Satan having been allowed to give all his power to him to overcome true Christians who are living in known, unconfessed sin. They will take the Mark and be cast into the Lake of Fire No, the rapture will not occur until the last day of the Great Tribulation. No, the unconditional-eternal-security teaching is a lie. No, Jesus does not love true Christians unconditionally. Yes, anyone who takes the Mark of the Beast will be cast into the Lake of Fire and the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever
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Messianic Judaism is not just Christianity for Jews or even Christianity in a Jewish context. It is the modern equivalent of the “Judaizers” who plagued the New Testament in the time of the apostles. Today, as then, they attempt to bring both Gentile “proselytes” and Jews into bondage to law. Paul told Peter he “stood condemned” for allowing such Judaizers to again impose the bondage of circumcision. (Galatians 2) But many of today’s Messianic Judaizers want to do much more: impose not just mandatory circumcision on their followers but the entirety of the Old Testament law!
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Jesus taught that Jewish nationalism and commitment to the “oral law” (“traditions of men”) distorted the purpose of the written law (Torah) (Mark 7:1-20). He declared that Israel’s dominant religious leaders were not in the tradition of Moses, David, and the prophets, but were servants of Satan (John 8:37-44). Their “Judaism” depended on legal righteousness based in “oral law” (the “traditions of men”; see Mark 7:1-23) and “works” that artificially distinguished them from the Gentiles whom they regarded as ritualistically unclean. Adherents of this perspective believed that their legal righteousness would assure them of the future Messiah’s approval when he appeared on the scene to cast off the Roman yoke and institute worldwide Jewish rule.
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John the Baptist proclaimed the worthlessness of legalistic righteousness (Matthew 3:1-12), and Jesus declared that the legalistic righteousness of the Pharisees was pitted against the genuine law of God He had come to uphold.
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Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:17-20 NIV).
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Instead of leading them toward fulfillment of the promises God had given Israel, their legalistically based self-righteousness motivated them to reject and kill the Messiah and His followers (Matthew 21:23-46; John 8:42-59; Acts 4-5; 7-9; 12:1f; 13:42-51; 14:2-5; 14:19; 17-18; 24:5; 26:9-11; Galatians 1:11-16; 4:29; Philippians 3:5-7; 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16).
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Jesus himself and the Apostles also called into question the meaning of the primary Jewish symbols—Sabbath, food taboos, ethnic identity, ancestral lands, and ultimately the Temple itself.. Jesus was claiming to be speaking for Israel’s God, her scriptures, and her true vocation. Israel was trusting in her ancestral religious symbols; Jesus was claiming to speak for the reality to which those symbols pointed, and to show that, by her concentration on them, Israel had turned inwards upon herself and was being not only disobedient, but dangerously disobedient, to her God’s vision for her, his vocation that she should be the exemplary light of the world. Jesus’ Jewish contemporaries, however, could not but regard someone doing and saying these things as a deceiver. His agenda clashed at every point with theirs. In symbol, as in praxis and story, his way of what being Israel meant, his way of loyalty to Israel’s God, was rightfully radically different from what theirs.had falsely become. The clash between Jesus and his Jewish contemporaries, especially the Pharisees, must be seen in terms of their false alternative political agendas generated by their false alternative eschatological beliefs and expectations. Earthly Zionism now included. Jesus had definitely announced His kingdom in a way which did not reinforce but rather called into question, the agenda of revolutionary zeal which dominated the horizon of the Jews, especially, the dominant group within Pharisaism. It is not to be wondered at, therefore, that he Jesus had rightfully called into question the great emphases on those symbols which had become the focal points of that zeal: Sabbath, food taboos, ethnic identity, ancestral lands, and ultimately the Temple itself. The symbols had become enacted codes for the aspirations of his contemporaries. Their Judaic religion had become a false one. Jesus, thus in challenging the Jews to His Way , was ‘speaking against the Torah’ per se. He was even ‘speaking against’ the idea of Israel as the still only chosen people of the one true God. .
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Hate speech today often means anything the Jews firstly hate to hear, especially the truth about themselves.. even the truth that
GOD NOT ONLY KICKED THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL IN 70 AD.. BUT BECAUSE OF JESUS CHRIST HE CHANGED THE WORLD’S CALENDAR, PROCLAIMING HIS NEW ERA AND TODAY IS 2012 AD, AFTER THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST
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Today’s Jews are are too quick to associate with the Promised Land of Joshua’s time. However, as per the conditions of the Bible , the New Testament and even the establishment of the State of Israel by the United Nations in 1948 it now raises many valid questions about that relationship validity.
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Still the state of Israel is big enough for both the Jews and Muslims to live together in peace too. So do all grow up and smarten up up. (Psa 133:1 KJV) Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
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Lasting peace can only occur by all accepting our God Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior Love God, love others, be not drunk with wine, be filled with the Holy Spirit, do not lie or steal.
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Genesis 12:3, “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”
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The first half of this verse is a promise that God made to just one person, Abraham. The original Hebrew is in the second person singular, meaning that God is speaking only to Abraham. The King James Version correctly reflects this grammatical construction, since “thee” is singular, referring only to one person, whereas “ye” would refer to multiple persons. Now through Abraham Jesus Christ next is the great blessing of the world, earth ever the was blessed with as confirmed in the New Testament.
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Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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It can be is pointed out that the various Arabs nations, including Palestine, are also descended from Abraham, and Israel is not mentioned in the verse either.
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Yes in Genesis 21:13, 17-18 God also bestows His blessing on Ishmael and his descendants, saying, “For I will make him a great nation.” So now is there also a command for political support of the modern Arab nations. And we must to also start up a “Christian Ishmaelist” movement to lobby for Arab national greatness?
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It must be be pointed out that even in Old Testament times, when past Israel was a nation specially chosen by, and ruled over by, God, He did not expect even all of His people to support and endorse all actions of the governments of Israel. So the God of the Bible does not really demand that anyone must support all actions and activities of the Jews, Israeli Government, when even if those actions violate God’s moral standards of righteousness. The Jewish lawgiver Moses commanded also only the the Hebrews that they should not oppress the strangers or non-Jews in their lands, Exodus 12:49, 22:21, 23:9, Leviticus 19:33-34, 25:35, Deuteronomy 10:18-19, 23:7, 24:17, 27:19. When King Ahab and Queen Jezebel unjustly expropriated the vineyard of Naboth, the prophet Elijah publicly denounced the kind for this unjust action, 1 Kings 21:17-24, Jehu cited this official action of the government of Israel against Naboth as justification for overthrowing that government, 2 Kings 9:25-26.; But this falsely is not being applied by the Jews of Israel Today.
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Now the liars, the Zionist preachers, would falsely try now rather to say that this verse applies not just to Abraham, but also to Abraham’s descendants, specifically to the Jews, the state of Israel, and that it also means that all persons, Christians as individuals, and America too as a nation, are bound to provide unquestioning support, financial and otherwise, to the state of Israel. If not then God will Punish them.. so what we are to give total, unquestioned support to some of Abraham’s children, while others of Abraham’s children are to be hated, persecuted, ethnically cleansed, even though yet in the whole new Testament there is no such confirmation, commandment by Jesus or any of the Apostles.. Rather in the New testament it is clearly the Jews, Israel ithat are defined now still as being cursed.. and only all the Christians all blessed in Jesus instead.
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Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Luke 13:35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.
Galatians 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
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Clearly God’s inspired prophets, Apostles did not meet the Zionist standard of blind, unquestioning support for Israel. And as it turns out, today’s Zionists do not meet God’s standard, either.; It is hypocritical for Zionists to threaten the wrath of God against those who express disagreement with the Israeli government when they have now rather done the same thing themselves with God’s standards, violate them.
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Now as per the lies of the false Zionism, Christian Zionism Movement; who is really “blessing Israel;” those persons who are working for peace in the Middle East, or those false persons with a hidden agenda who are agitating for a war designed next to get two-thirds of all Jews wiped out .
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ZIONISM IS THE REAL ENEMY OF ALL JEWS.
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Jews still will always be far from any right to the promise land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS, even the blood shed of many others that they have killed from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone!
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Zionism is a movement that claims to be based on the Bible, but it is actually contrary to what the Bible teaches. All Christians should repudiate Zionism and should work for a peace settlement in the Middle East that will be of mutual benefit to Abraham’s Jewish and Arab children in Palestine.
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“Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.” Even the Messianic Jews are falsely as antagonistic to Christianity as traditional Jews are. For Messianic Jews to respond with such a level of disdain brings to mind the words of Paul, “You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans?” And, “If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.” The Messianic Judaism is now falsely obsessed with taking over from both religions, especially Christianity. Messianic Judaism is no longer a proper conduit especially suitable for spreading spiritual Christian truth precisely because it has not obtained the status of either Non-Messianic Judaism or real Christianity. Judaism and Messianic Judaism are both embroiled in religious politics and the insatiable desire for wealth and power. Messianic Jews seem to want to wrest power and resources away from Christianity and be corrupted by the same influences that have so greatly hindered Christianity’s effectiveness. If Messianic Jews truly believe in what they practice, what does it matter if Christians, Jews, atheists, or anyone else criticizes them? Instead of worrying about Jewish acceptance, Messianic Jews should occupy themselves with knowing God and being accepted by Him. Instead of falsely battling Christians, Messianic Jews should seek to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind”[3] and “Love your neighbor as yourself,” for “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Messianic Jews should work on growing spiritually and building each other up, that they may glorify the Lord. “And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.” Instead of their falsely focusing on proving to Christians that the Torah is still in effect.. “Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love.” Become real Christians not merely still pretenders, imposters, wolves in sheep clothing. AND WHEN YOU DO NOT DO WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO THESE SAME RATHER LITTLE BAD CHILDREN INSULT YOU, SLANDER YOU, DIVORCE YOU, OSTRACIZE YOU, BAD MOUTH YOU. And does God still show false partiality? to the Christians? or to the Jews? Arabs? NO.. they all will reap what they sow, had sowed on this earth as well as here after. Reality
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