(Mat 19:21 KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
(Gal 3:3 KJV) Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.” 2 Corinthians 11:3-4
The false hooks of mere man’s interpretations, mere men’s teachings and not God’s now as well.. a false detour, deviation actually next from the real truth in the Bible, even from the Holy Sprit’s personal teachings now to, all made now to make sure you will never see God’s whole truths. Mind you and do note how how really subtle the devil is here now too. Not surprisingly the devil also now uses the same techniques when he uses the Mormons, the Jehovah Witnesses, and others to get you hooked on their distortions, lies, reinterpretations too..
(Mat 19:21 KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
(Luke 6:40 KJV) The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
(John 17:23 KJV) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
(Rom 12:2 KJV) And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
(Gal 3:3 KJV) Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
(Eph 4:13 KJV) Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
(Rev 3:2 KJV) Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Do see my posts on what a real Christian is.. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/what-does-it-really-mean-to-follow-jesus-christ/
I have learned decades and decades ago that most of the Brethren not just the too many bad pastors are also deceitful, nasty, abuseful and really unacceptably bad.. they falsely are control freaks, who falsely love to practise divorce, even the silent treatment to those who do not give them what they want.. do now see also the postings on the topics in http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/
Too many preachers, teachers, people overly simplify the Gospel and distort it. Ostriches too tend to deny the negative truths of the Bible still too.
James 1:19-25 So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
Contrary to the gospel of the New Testament, of Jesus, and the Apostles, the Seventh day Adventists falsely teach that observance of all of the Old testament law as being still binding on all Christians today. “Adventists do differ from other Christians in that they celebrate the Bible sabbath from sundown Friday until sundown Saturday. They the Seventh day Adventists falsely believe that all of past the laws of God are still binding on Christians today and that those who love Jesus will keep all of His, God’s commandments. Very misleading too.
“Moreover, in their commandments of men, Adventists advocate a vegetarian diet. God undeniably created meat so we can it it.. but moderation, and self control are still always required. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving. (1 Timothy 4:4) Scripture does not promote a vegetarian diet as “healthier.” What Scripture basically promotes as “healthier” is firstly the attention to the wisdom of God, which, by the way, promotes the eating of meat (Genesis 9:3; 18:1-8; Leviticus 10:14; Deuteronomy 12:15, 20-21; 27; Proverbs 9:2; 1 Corinthians 10:25; 1 Timothy 4:4) My son, give attention to my words; incline your ear to my sayings. Do not let them depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart; for they are life to those who find them, and health to all their flesh. (Proverbs 4:20-22) It is the word of God that gives longer life” (Psalm 91:16; Proverbs 3:1-2; Ephesians 6:2-3), makes one “healthier” (Proverbs 3:7-8; 4:20-22), and makes one “happier,” as it is written, Happy is the man who finds wisdom, and the man who gains understanding; for her proceeds are better than the profits of silver, and her gain than fine gold. (Proverbs 3:13-14; see also Psalm 128:1-2; 144:15; 146:5; Proverbs 3:18; 14:21; 16:20; 28:14; 29:18; Romans 14:22)”
The Seventh-day Adventist church they believe the Bible teaches that the state of man in death is unconsciousness and also the Adventists reject the Biblical truth of an eternal hell of torment. This “unconscious state” is a Fundamental Belief of the Adventist church (” . . . death is an unconscious state for all people, ” Fundamental Beliefs, #25 www.adventist.org/beliefs/index.html, ).
They here too are fundamentally wrong. Please note that in Luke 16:19-30. Both Abraham and the rich man are very much conscience, yet both of their bodies are in the grave (Genesis 25:7-9; Luke 16:22). Not only is God going to “realize that in His universe souls” are “suffering torment” that will never end, but they will suffer in His very presence (e.g. Revelation 14:10-11); people will go out and look at them (Isaiah 66:24); and the righteous (Psalm 58:9-10), the daughters of Jerusalem (Psalm 97:7-9), creation (Psalm 96:10-13), and God Himself will rejoice over their judgment (Psalm 104:31; Luke 10:21-23; Revelation 18:20; 19:1-7). Revelation 20:10 And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Note also the things they the Seventh day Adventists too now have in common with the false cults of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons, and many others now too.. contradicting the word of God.
thenonconformer
/ September 17, 2008I have a good laugh when someone tries to tell me he is a Mormon Christian.. to me rightfully it is like saying the devil is a christian.
I even do have a Mormon Neighbour and I can see nothing Christian ever in what he believes in, or does..
The Mormon Gospel too for sure is not the one of our Lord Jesus Christ
thenonconformer
/ September 18, 2008Mark it is the devil who makes you do the bad things
I trust that one day you will allow the Holy Spirit to speak truth to you through His word. It’s never too late.
The Bible says a “false balance is an abomination.” You’d do well to take heed.
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Mark has been systematically spamming me, abusing me and he has been warned about his immoral behaviors towards me
Hey Mark http://vision20twenty.org and you do not want me to report you to all for the personal libel, slander next too?
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so next Then came the devil…
(Mat 4:1 KJV) Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
Hey I have often said that if the devil and his evil sprits cannot lead you personally astray, away from God, he will next send a real person your way, even a false professing Christian, the false brother or sister, a dispensationalist even at that .. to try to do that.. the devil does not give up nor do his followers still too.
Some people say that there is nothing more worse than the anger of a scorned woman..
or try the bad acts of a false professing Christian when they are openly exposed by me, I stepped on his false ego, his sore toes ehh.. and next they become so really openly mean, verbally aggressive, insulting, slanderous! I know firstahnd for just recently I had one dispensationalist person make even a dozen negative internet bashing posts about me in just one short period ,even trying to bait me to go to his bad site and continue his fight as well.. and he still openly says he wants to lead others into new godly truths.. dream on..
(Luke 6:39 KJV) And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
the bad dispensational poster he needs real positive pastoral help himself, but clearly and wrongfuly he still will not take it.
Jesus said you can tell what they are like by their own fruits..
(Mat 7:18 KJV) A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
(Micah 7:13 KJV) Notwithstanding the land shall be desolate because of them that dwell therein, for the fruit of their doings.
(Gal 5:22 KJV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
(Eph 5:9 KJV) (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
(James 3:18 KJV) And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
(Song 6:11 KJV) I went down into the garden of nuts to see the fruits of the valley, and to see whether the vine flourished, and the pomegranates budded.
(Mat 21:34 KJV) And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
(Phil 1:11 KJV) Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
thenonconformer
/ September 21, 2008thenonconformer
/ October 29, 2008>>Are you telling me when Jesus was in the Garden of Gethsemane and he was praying to his father he was actually praying to himself? Wouldn’t that make Jesus slightly retarded?
you have been condemned by your own words..
(John 10:30 KJV) I and my Father are one. Jesus
(John 10:31 KJV) Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus
(John 10:32 KJV) Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
(John 10:33 KJV) The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
instead of reading your heretic , blasphemous books, read the Bible.. you will get a kick out what it really says too.
Mormons are Christian.. Hey that is a joke.. they firstly believe a polygamous God had real sex with a wife, and had two sons, the devil and Jesus.. and Jesus Christ is not God.. they don’t believe the Bible was written by God, not the whole new testament.. pretenders, imposters, but they are not Christians, they are anti Christ’s cult, sect as millions of evangelicals believe and do see my past pages on Mormons..
I never met a Mormon who lived a real Christian life in decades, my next door neighbor is a Mormon, I serviced loads of computers to Mormons as well.. still they lied, stole, got drunk too.. not a Christian life… I cannot see any difference between them and my non Christian friends, neighbors still too in reality.
do see https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/neither-give-place-to-the-devil/
Both Catholics and Protestants have long taken a dim view of various aspects of Mormon theology.. “Mormon beliefs diverge widely from historic Christian orthodoxy. The Book of Mormon, which is Mormonism’s principal source for its claim to new revelation and a new prophet, lacks credibility. And the Jesus proclaimed by Joseph Smith and his followers is different in significant ways from the Jesus of the New Testament: Smith’s Jesus is a God distinct from God the Father; he was once merely a man and not God; he is of the same species as human beings; and his being and acts are limited by coeternal matter and laws. The intent of this essay is not to say that individual Mormons will be barred from sitting with Abraham and the saints at the marriage supper of the Lamb. We are saved by a merciful Trinity, not by our theology. But the distinguished scholar of Mormonism Jan Shipps was only partly right when she wrote that Mormonism is a departure from the existing Christian tradition as much as early Christianity was a departure from Judaism. For if Christianity is a shoot grafted onto the olive tree of Judaism, Mormonism as it stands cannot be successfully grafted onto either.” Gerald R. McDermott, an Episcopal priest who is a professor of religion at Roanoke College:
“But evangelicals are reluctant to vote for a Mormon. Historically, evangelicals and Mormons have demonized each other. Evangelicals consider the Church of Latter-day Saints to be a cult and typically think Mormons are not real Christians.Evangelicals accuse Mormons of adding new revelation (the Book of Mormon) to the Bible. They think Mormons teach that humans are saved by good works rather than by Jesus Christ, and that humans are of the same species as Jesus and can someday attain his status. In addition, evangelicals say, Mormons reject key Christian doctrines such as the Trinity and creatio ex nihilo (God creating the world out of nothing).” http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/mayweb-only/122-42.0.html
““Here is the bottom line. As an Evangelical Christian – a Christian who holds to the ‘traditional Christian orthodoxy’ of the Church – I do not believe that Mormonism leads to salvation,” wrote Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, on Wednesday evening.
“To the contrary, I believe that it is a false gospel that, however sincere and kind its adherents may be, leads to eternal death rather than to eternal life,” he stated.
Mohler’s response is part of an ongoing “blog dialogue” sponsored by the Web site Beliefnet.com. Since June 28, the evangelical scholar and prominent Mormon science-fiction writer Orson Scott Card have been debating whether Mormons can be considered Christians.
During the course of the debate, Card focused on whether Mormons are moral people, good citizens and why Mormon presidential candidate Mitt Romney should be supported by evangelicals. He emphasized that Mormons share many of the same values as evangelical Christians and believe Jesus Christ is the only path to salvation.
However, Mohler noted that whether a Mormon has similar moral values to evangelical Christians is beside the point because Beliefnet.com had asked whether Mormons can be considered Christians based on traditional Christian orthodoxy.
“It appears that we are not really discussing the same question,” noted Mohler in his latest blog response.
“The debate has never been about whether Mormons are good Americans or would make good neighbors,” he wrote.
“I dare say that most American Evangelicals and traditional Roman Catholics would find more in common with Mormons in terms of child-rearing, sexual morality, the protection of marriage and family, and a host of other issues, than they would with liberal Catholics or liberal Protestants,” acknowledged Mohler.
But Mormonism from its beginning has rejected traditional Christian orthodoxy, which is part of the core Mormon identity, pointed out the highly-respected theologian. The subtitle of The Book of Mormon is “Another Testament of Jesus Christ.”
“A ‘testament,’ that is, other than that accepted by the historic Christian churches,” Mohler highlighted.
Mohler – who is often seen on “Larry King Live” and other popular news show representing the Christian voice – concluded that Mormonism is not just another form of Christianity and is incompatible with “traditional Christian orthodoxy.””
thenonconformer
/ October 7, 2009