Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, Trinity

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A  little boy in Sunday School, who was  drawing feverishly and  One of the teachers noticed walked over to him and said, ” what are you doing?” to which he said, “I’m drawing a picture of God.” The teacher said, “But no one knows what God looks like.” Without missing a beat he kept drawing and said, “They will when I get finished.”
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“The Holy Spirit of God is the Spirit of God, fully divine.” That means that in every way He is equal with God the Father and God the Son. He possesses their attributes and character. He is omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and holy. He is eternal, immutable, righteous, just and loving. And, as the third person of the Holy Trinity, He is a person. This is an important point to understand.  Many people make the mistake of referring to the Holy Spirit with the impersonal pronoun, “It.” But this is not how scripture reveals Him to us. When Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit, say in John 14:26 for example He uses the masculine personal pronoun when He says, “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit – the Father will send Him in My name – will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.”  The Holy Spirit is a unique person with the characteristics which define a person.One can be in fellowship with Him or one can be out of fellowship with Him. One can invite Him to be present or one can grieve Him and quench His presence. Acts 5:3 tells us that it is possible to lie to Him and Acts 7:51 tells us it is possible to resist Him. And Acts 13:2 tells us that He speaks, all of these are characteristics of a person.

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In Acts 1:8 the disciples were told that they would receive a special anointing of power, a special enablement to carry forth with the work of the kingdom of God. This is the same thing which the Lord spoke through the prophet Zachariah in Zachariah 4:6 when He said, “Not by strength or by might, but by My Spirit, says the Lord of Hosts.” Jesus said that without Him we can do nothing, which is to say, without His Spirit working in us and through us, without the supernatural empowerment which He alone can give, we cannot accomplish anything of eternal consequence. The Holy Spirit empowers.

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I Corinthians 12, Romans 12:6-8 and 1 Peter 4:10-11 tell us that the Holy Spirit gives spiritual gifts to every believer to equip them to be a functional and productive part of the body of Christ. Now why aren’t they obvious them? The problem, you see, is not with the Spirit who gives the gifts, but with the ignorant, carnal  believer who who is not investing their life in the work of the kingdom of God. The Church   grows or diminish based on the active work of the Holy Spirit  through the people of God to accomplish the will of God on earth.

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Galatians 5:22-23 “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.”

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Many professing Christians still do Struggle with the doctrine of the Holy Spirit.  Great demonic confusion surrounds thus the  Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit amongst the Baptists, Evangelicals, Dispensationalists  mainly because there are too many ignorant  fools who  try to teach, explain something they themselves have still have never personally experienced yet.  They falsely thus do  teach the “cessationist” doctrine – a false view that does not believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit, including prophecy and tongues, are operational in the Church today. So the majority of the they thus have falsely remained in opposition to the open manifestation of the Holy Spirit. “…  We should  understand the demonic agenda of all  those who wish to drive into the shadows falsely all those of us who are open to this area of the Spirit’s work, as clearly attested in Scripture..

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For some   the  Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit   is viewed as a subsequent work of grace in a believer’s life and is equated with the filling of the Holy Spirit. Others associate the baptism of the Holy Spirit as a normal secondary Christian experience with the full gifts of the Holy Spirit including the gift of tongues as a result of accepting Jesus Christ the full Lord of one\s own personal life, abandoning all to Jesus… Still others diligently see  it as a  rare, special unusual work of God in the life of only some Christian  believer which confirms God’s power and allows a special closeness to God never before experienced. Still  Christ is always described as the baptizer of the Holy Spirit. One thing is very clear today. We all do  need the Holy Spirit! We all do  need Him now, we need Him desperately and we need Him always. There really e is an experience for believers that is called “the baptism of the Holy Spirit”. We all need to understand it..This baptism by the Holy Spirit is  empowering  and a separate experience generally from Salvation. How much of the Holy Spirit do you have?” or ”How much of me does Jesus Christ really have?”
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It really is a great dispensationalist lie, falsehood that the the doctrine of “the baptism of the Holy Spirit” is 1 Corinthians 12:13  found  in the book of Acts that deal with encountering the Holy Spirit were under special circumstances. Temporary only.  Acts is a history book that details the ongoing supernatural origin of the church. The book of Acts It is a  not just a temporary descriptive  transitional book that describes that unique time in history when Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to be the Paraclete, comforter and companion.   Thus Pentecost was  the beginning of the work of the Holy Spirit  personally in one’s life and . We can  build a theology of the the  Christian doctrine of the baptism of the Holy Spirit from the book of Acts. The very primary   meaning of the word “baptism” is “to immerse or submerge”, “to be joined with., or  anointed specifically. It is personal,experience. “and it still does not   happens to all believers.  When then does the baptism occur? The clear teaching of the New Testament is that it should normally takes place at conversion but obviously not for many and why? Basic Ignorance..
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The wonderful personal experience of the baptism by the Holy Spirit brings us  a  new empowered  life, not  just by Jesus Christ a new identity and a new nature.  Christ gives  you the empowering of the Holy Spirit of Christ,  Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you
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Is 51:23 .. your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
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Jesus Christ, God, the Holy Spirit do not bash,  cut down ,   tear into ,  bad-mouth , castigate  ,  defame , derogate ,tear apart , knock , oppress , persecute , revile , slam , sling mud against,  condemn    Christians So how do you treat other Christians with love and respect or with a false hatred?
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About the Holy Spirit haters, bashers   The false Demotion of the Holy Spirit, Jesus .. Jesus had said that without Him and his Holy Spirit you can do nothing.. nothing everlasting, or significant too. yet people falsely do try to Divorce the Holy Spirit or try to substitute the Holy Spirit with false doctrines, vanities still to day. Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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Holy Spirit led, filled Christians   Pentecostalism or Classical Pentecostalism believe that all Real Christians are Pentecostals or Charismatics and  is a renewal movement within Christianity that places special emphasis on a direct personal experience of God through the  Lordship of Jesus Christ, baptism with the Holy Spirit leading to Holy Spirit–filled and empowered life as well as biblical authority, and the miraculous, personal empowerment which includes the use of spiritual gifts. Pentecostals tend to also see their movement as reflecting the same kind of spiritual power and teachings that were found in the Apostolic Age of the early church. For this reason, some Pentecostals also use the term Apostolic or full gospel to describe their movement. Real Pentecostals do practice and  believe and in an authentic relationship with God, the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, the Trinity, stemming from simple conversation with them through prayers and even fasting. They tend to believe a Christian can both be demon possessed and can  lose their personal Salvation as well. They tend to put a greater emphasis on prayer over Bible reading,  and thus can still even have some personal errors.. Pentecostalism as a whole now even follows four core doctrines: salvation, divine healing, baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the second coming of Christ as well as a Mission to others. These missions include to evangelize the lost,  the praise and worship of God,  to teach and disciple believers, and to show practical, real compassion to the poor and needy.  Some Pentecostals groups still falsely   teach and demand tithing. Others now falsely allow divorce. Many Pentecostals also put emphasis on the latter rain outpouring, Believing that we all were living in the end times, they expect God to presently spiritually renew the Christian Church bringing to pass not only the restoration of spiritual gifts, but also the evangelization of the whole world by the re-establishment and the mutual submission of the offices of Apostles, Prophets, Pastors teachers, evangelists. It should be noted some Pastors falsely  object to their submission to others.

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The Pentecostals do now differ very significantly from the other main Christian Denominations including the Mennonites, Brethren, Baptists, Catholics, Anglican, Presbyterian for they preach the whole or full Gospel of Jesus Christ; Jesus  as Savior, Healer, Deliverer, Provider, coming King, Baptizer of the Holy Ghosts, Sanctifier, Giver of gifts too… and yet this denomination basically is not more spiritual over the others, mainly because the leadership has watered down the requirements of what it takes to be a Christian, a church member .. apparently you can often buy a membership by tithing, giving ten percent of your income to the local church..   While there are many similar evidently aspects of the Pentecostals such as the main emphasis on not only Jesus, His salvation, forgiveness but also on the Holy sprit, leading , gifts, empowering each local Church tends to differ, some seriously even depart from the faith in reality, have accepted falsehoods, lies, distortions into their midst, doctrines like many other denominations now too. I do deal with some of these issues too.

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IT IS ONE OF THE GREATEST LIES OF THE DEVIL, MYTHS THAT ONE CAN BE A CHRISTIAN OR THAT SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS, EVEN HOLINESS CAN BE ACHIEVED WITHOUT THE FILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

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The anointing of the Holy spirit      Firstly we all do still do need to know as to what is a real Christian? Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 
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To be a Christian is based on the Greek word anointed one, Christos, a person in whom  we can see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.. Jesus Christ himself also was baptized with the Holy Spirit, The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One.
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(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Now  the anointed one- Greek for Messiah (anointed one) is Christos, Christ in English. Thus, “Jesus Christ” joins a name and a title, and means Jesus the Messiah. Christ, Messiah, Anointed One. The title “Christ” or “Anointed One” Gk. Christos “Cristov” occurs about 350 times in the New Testament..
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The word christos means a person HOLY SPIRIT anointed . The Greek name for an individual “Christos” rendered “Christ” in Scripture, the basic of the term Christian now as well, comes from the Greek word “chrio” means to anoint with oil, the symbol of the Holy Spirit,
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Luke 4:18-19 (Wey) [Jesus:] “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed me to proclaim Good News to the poor; He has sent me to announce release to the prisoners of war and recovery of sight to the blind: to send away free those whom tyranny has crushed, to proclaim the year of acceptance with the Lord.”But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . .
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As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in him. 1 John 2:20, 27;
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The word christos means a person so anointed and the word chrisma refers to that by which a person is anointed. John uses chrisma in these two verses, not speaking of the object being anointed but of the instrument of anointing. Additionally, we find a word christianos in Acts 11:26, which means “one belonging to the Anointed One,” just as Herodianos would mean “one who belongs to Herod.” As the ultimate Prophet, King and Priest, Jesus Christ was anointed when he began his earthly ministry. This anointing was predicted by Isaiah in Isaiah 61:1 when he said that the Spirit of the Lord would come upon the Messiah. In God’s time, when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, we are told the Holy Spirit came upon him when he came up out of the water. In other words, he was anointed by the Holy Spirit, and that without measure.
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When Jesus quoted Isaiah 61:1,2 in the synagogue of Nazareth, saying, “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,” he was announcing to the people that he was the Messiah prophesied by Isaiah long ago and that the anointing of the Holy Spirit was now resting upon him.
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Not only is Jesus Christ anointed, but the Bible tells us that every believer in Jesus Christ is also anointed. We are kings, priests, and prophets under the Priest, Prophet and King, the Lord Jesus Christ. We find references to this in many places. John the Baptist said there was another person coming after him, mightier than himself, who would baptize people in the Holy Spirit and fire.
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In Acts 1:5 the Lord Jesus Christ himself speaks of this, saying, “For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.” This was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost, as we read in Acts 2:4: “All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.” The Greek word for anointing is chrisma, from which we have the word chrism. Chrisma appears several times in 1 John 2:20 and 27. It comes from the root word, chriô, which means to rub something or someone lightly with a substance like oil or lotion. Thus, when John writes in 1 John 2:20, “But you have a chrisma, an anointing,” he was referring to the coming of the Holy Spirit upon every believer.;
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(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.The word “Christ” is a transliteration of the Greek word christos, meaning “the Anointed One,    Jesus was the anointed one. Jesus is the Messiah and  the transliteration of the Old Testament Hebrew word pronounced maw-shakh, meaning Anointed One, which when translated into the New Testament Greek is Christos. Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”
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and by the way these people who clearly hate, reject, abuse the Holy Spirit by offering their false definition of Christian   really do need to relook at the definition of a Christians, as they clearly are not Holy Spirit anointed  Christians even.. they are not real Christians..  So one can tell if any person is a Christian cause they also can see the evidence of the holy spirit’s anointing.. so now we all can be anointed one inspectors of all Christians now too.
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So can we  see the anointing of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ in you.. do we all see it  easily? or do you like bullying others too much still? doing your own thing?
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Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…  and so now the devil uses any of his followers, those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths. and they falsely try to say something typical like this  now.. the big lie“If you check every single Biblical reference to the Anointing you should notice that ” There is not ONE SINGLE reference to the anointing being a supernatural power given to human by which they are able to perform miracles… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to anyone being able to transmit the anointing by any means, including the laying on of hands… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to getting, keeping, increasing, or losing the anointing.”All lies..
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It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy spirit filled, those people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, but we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”
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Mind you they these same liars do have to Tear out the whole Old Testament for a start.. the prophets were clearly anointed, and performed miracles, and the same Jesus yesterday, today and forever who lives in us today too, who was anointed and performed miracles he had also said that believers will do even greater things now too. In the reality now after all Samson next lost his anointing.. and so did King Saul lose his anointing .. and David asked God not to take away his anointing too after he had sinned with
Bathsheba..
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The anointing that the devil and his false followers do hate and oppose, lie about is this.. (Mark 16:17 KJV) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

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The anointing is sacred, the anointing is the Holy Spirit, and all believers in Christ have the anointing of the Holy Spirit. We must be careful what we say about our brothers and sisters in Christ.
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(Matthew 12:31 NKJV) “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
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(Jer 14:14 KJV) Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

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(Jer 14:15 KJV) Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

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(Jer 23:25 KJV) I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

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(Jer 27:15 KJV) For I have not sent them, saith the LORD, yet they prophesy a lie in my name; that I might drive you out, and that ye might perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.

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(Jer 29:9 KJV) For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.

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(Jer 29:23 KJV) Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.

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(Luke 21:8 KJV) And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

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The holy Spirit is real and he can be real to you too.

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(1 Cor 12:8 KJV) For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

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(2 Cor 3:18 KJV) But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

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(1 Pet 3:18 KJV) For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

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(1 Matt 3:24 KJV) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

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(1 John 3:21 KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 2 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire

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(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him

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“I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed (enduo) with power (dunamis) from on high.” (Luke 24:49)  ”Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water (hudati), but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit (en pneumati hagio)…. But you will receive power (dunamis) when the Holy Spirit comes on (epiechomai) you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” (Acts 1:4, 5, 8; see 11:15-16)

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The “baptism of the Holy Spirit” is given to those persons who obey God, follow after and do his will.. it requires our initial personal involvement, willingness, obedience.

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The “baptism of the Holy Spirit” involves being covered with, immersed in, empowered by the Holy Spirit. Baptism of the Holy Spirit is a term used to describe a movement of the Spirit upon and/or within a believer usually at salvation but often after the person is saved. Actually it is likely that many people accept Jesus Christ intellectual but do take some time to make him fully the personal lord of their life next.

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Matt. 3:11, “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”

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Mark 1:8, “I baptized you with water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”

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Acts 11:16, “And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

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The Early Church understood water baptism much as John the Baptist did, representing God’s cleansing and the washing away of our sins (Acts 22:16). It is a baptism of repentance still, since by submitting to Christian baptism, a person either tacitly or explicitly acknowledges his need for cleansing, and therefore his sins that demand forgiveness and cleansing. On the Day of Pentecost, Peter told his convicted hearers, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”.

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We should be careful to not confuse Baptism in the Holy Spirit with the various other ministries of the Holy Spirit. The filling of the Holy Spirit is how He empowers and controls us (Acts 4:31; Ephesians 5:18). The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is God the Holy Spirit taking up permanent residence in our lives (John 14:17; Romans 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19; 1 John 4:4). The sealing of the Holy Spirit is God marking us as His permanent possession (Ephesians 1:13-14). Baptism in the Holy Spirit is related to these other ministries of the Holy Spirit, but at the same time, it is separate from them.

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My own experience supports the idea that the baptism in the Holy Spirit can be a subsequent occurrence to salvation. Long after my becoming a Christian, I had an experience where I next had specifically allowed the Holy Spirit moved upon me with great power.

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“He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.” (Luke 3:16)

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Have you been Baptized with the Holy Spirit? If you’ve repented of your sins and asked Christ to be your Lord and Master, then He responds with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

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(Rev 3:15 KJV) I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

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(Heb 13:8 KJV) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. is alive today.. and he can be alive today in you and me too. And John 4:4 states, “Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”
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(Luke 4:18-19 NKJV) “The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the Gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; {19} To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.”The choice is ours! Through the Word of God and the anointing of the Holy Spirit we can exercise a power and authority that no other can demonstrate nor compete with. God has called us and anointed us for that purpose. What will it be?  Therefore, if you would like a fresh anointing of the Holy Spirit upon your life, you must come before the Great Anointer! He alone can give you what you need. Open your heart to God, and allow Him to lay His hand upon your life in a new way. I guarantee you, a strong anointing will follow!

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1 The anointing is given to preach the Gospel to the poor

2. The anointing is given to heal and restore people
3. The anointing is given to proclaim freedom to the captives
4. The anointing is given to open blind eyes
5. The anointing is given to set people free
6. The anointing flows in God’s timing and proclaims God’s timing
7 The anointing is given to preach the Gospel to the poor, to bring the revelation of God’s love to those who are seeking.

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So why is it you do not pray in Tongues? Many even religious persons, people are falsely trying to reach Heaven, serve God in their own efforts neglect God’s provisions for them, God’s spiritual gifts. if you oppose tongues you are not even a Christian led by the holy Spirit. and that is your main problem still.. not being filled with the Holy Spirit.. You do need to learn what sins are holding you back from this…

.THE BOOGEYMAN CALLED FALSE TONGUES Of all the empty arguments offered by Cessationists, it is hard to find anything more bizarre than their claim of the existence of “false tongues.”  This doctrine is the new Boogeyman.

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Now about Speaking in tongues    I find it absurd that many claim to be Holy Spirit experts when the reality is, and they show it too, that they do not yet even know the Holy Spirit personally…. never mind Jesus.. It is amazing that many  people falsely concentrate on what they or others believe, what mere men and women say on the Subject and not rather what the New testament Bible actually says .. as the devil does not want them to see and admit the Bible truth.. there are so many different and even false interpretations too on what tongues thus is -“that the gift of tongues constituted a type of “ language,” a series of initially  unintelligible sounds that are unrelated to one’s own human speech and so they need to be also  interpreted.  One should pray to have this interpretation too”.

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Covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.Have you yourself wondered why some people really go really nuts, bonkers when you mention the word Holy Spirit.. I have! It is related to their false  fear of admitting and confessing their sins, of their own repentance.

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Acts 2:38   Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”;

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1 Corinthians 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

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We do not emphasize the baptism in the Spirit and speaking in tongues to a greater extent than all of the other essential New testament doctrines such as the New Birth from Above (salvation), dying to self, the Lordship of Jesus Christ,  and water baptism. All the teachings of the New Testament even about  tongues have  the same priority as it is in Scripture.

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There are now many, many Christians who give testimony to a new, dynamic and personal, life-changing experiences as a result of their  relationship with the Holy Spirit while other Professing Christians  they still do not have any real encounter and experience of the Holy Spirit, and why is that?

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When any biblical truths, even such as praying in tongues,  fall into obscurity and neglect, too many people offer false explanations, false excuses for it instead of reviving the truths in their life.

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The disciples who follow Jesus were born again. They had come to a vibrant and zealous faith in Christ, to the point that they were willing to give their lives for him. They had witnessed Christ’s authority, practiced some of his authority in expelling demons and healing people. They witnessed his resurrection and ascension. Yet it was to these disciples, clearly born again, that Jesus said

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“Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.  For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”

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So  certainly   being baptized by the Holy Spirit is different from spiritual rebirth, and different from baptism by water, and it is  distinct from being baptized into the body of Christ.

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While God’s  gifts to men now are supernatural both in source and operation, they still do require the personal willingness  and having an  obedient hearts through which they the gifts might find expression. The believer must (1) have a clear understanding of the biblical base for promised gifts; (2) be touched in his heart with a desire for the gifts to flow; (3) be willing to submit to the inner sense that the Spirit is seeking expression; and (4) offer to the Holy Spirit his heart, emotions, will, and voice by which those gifts may operate. The key is obedient availability coupled with a sincere desire to please God.

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Jesus now had commanded His disciples to wait in Jerusalem until they had been “clothed with power from on high” (Luke 24:49). It was not until they had placed themselves at the Spirit’s disposal that they were “filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them” (Acts 2:4).Now on the Day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit fell upon the assembled believers as per the Bible and and “all of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues” (Acts 2:4). Later, as Peter was preaching at the house of Cornelius, “the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message” and they were “speaking in tongues and praising God” (Acts 10:44, 46). Again, as the apostle Paul was ministering to the Ephesian disciples, “the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied” (Acts 19:6). It is evident also that Paul himself was filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 9:17) and spoke in tongues (1 Corinthians 14:18). These Scriptures clearly show that speaking in tongues is the initial physical evidence of being baptized in the Holy Spirit.  When the early believers were filled, they spoke in other tongues, and the same holds true today. Millions of believers worldwide share the exact testimony: when they initially were baptized in the Holy Spirit they spoke in unknown tongues. This is the truth which Pentecostals consistently affirm. The prophecy of Joel 2:28, 29, cited by Peter in Acts 2:16, 17, links today’s Spirit-filled believers with those who were filled with the Spirit on the Day of Pentecost. The Spirit’s fullness, evidenced initially by the phenomenon of speaking in other tongues, is the common experience all celebrate with joy.

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The job description, empowernment   Now when I am hired in a new Job I ask my boss for a Job Description. When I meet a new Church Pastor I also do ask him what he thinks his job description is, to even now see if it is Biblically sound, if he really is a good shepherd of the flock.

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The  baptism of the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , Tongues, Prophets, Apostles, Miracle workers, tithing   have become unarguably the most neglected,  misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the news media, in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, especially in the fundamental evangelical religious circles and now all even because many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not unto God;   As they clearly do not have God’s understanding of these subjects cause they do not have the Holy Spirit.. so they are none of His for a start, they have let unrepentant sin continue in their lives still too

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How to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit.  (John 10:27 KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
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(Isa 30:21 KJV) And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
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The people who also tell us to use only the Bible they often still lie further to us.. they ask us also to use men’s commentaries, instead of the Holy spirit to next interpret the Bible.
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(Eph 4:18 KJV) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
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Jesus is God’s perfect revelation. The Bible is the record of God’s revelation. To the experience, true Christian believer It is undeniably clearly that the Holy Sprit is the persons, individual that will lead and guide us into all truth, even explaining the Bible to us now as well.  Imagine now instead that you too even can actually hear God’s voices, THAT OF JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT AS WELL NOW and their  specific instructions to you instead of hearing your own voice, the Jewish lusts of the flesh,  or the Devil’s voice.
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HOW EASY IS IT TO HEAR GOD’S VOICE.. THAT  MORE I DESIRE TO HEAR HIM THE EASIER  IT IS THAT SO DO.. AS GOD SAID IF YOU SEEK ME WITH YOUR WHOLE HEART YOU WILL FIND ME.
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Now we all still do have to listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, to hear his will, guidance, commandments for us..
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Personal Humbleness is one of the basic prerequisite to allow God to personally speak to us. I know that many persons now tend to limit, cripple how God can speak to them, as only being through the Mind, through the Bible, only through others, or through circumstances.. well I also know that the devil can speak to you and me that way now too.. or he devil can send you a supposedly wise person telling you what you should do , what to do. and often rather making it a lot worse.
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Still there is a false  thinking that the    Bible is solely the Word of God, or  neglecting  most of the New Testament,, There is a huge pitfall in  thinking the Bible is the Word of God alone, and thinking that all the commands in the Bible referencing the Word of God, refer solely  to the Bible; when these references really mean going to God directly and listening to the Word of God  personally still speaking to you.
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Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Mat 4:4

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The gifts of the Holy Spirit  ” There is a river of the Holy Spirit that comes from God whose streams makes glad “believers” and fills them with joy and peace. As a result this river gives them joy and gladness, thanksgiving and the voice of melody. Yes, Joy and gladness are the trade marks of being filled with the power of the Holy Spirit. Christianity is not only to be understood with our hearts and minds and appreciated for its many miracles, signs and wonders but it’s to be experienced through the moving of the Holy Spirit. ” John 16:7 “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.”

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“I believe that one of the biggest reasons that the body of Christ hasn’t made a greater impact on our generation today is because of our failure to operate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Without a doubt, Jesus and the first apostles used the gifts like a bell, calling men to their message and confirming that God was truly the One speaking through them”. Andrew Wommack

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Hebrews 2:3-4 says, “How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?” The Lord bore witness to the accuracy of their message through miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit.

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In Mark 16:17-18, Jesus said all true believers would flow in the miraculous: “And these signs will follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

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The vast majority of preaching  and Christian living done in the name of the Lord today is still really without the power of the Holy Spirit manifest through the gifts of the Holy Spirit. This was,  is not the way the Lord Jesus Christ had intended it to be.for sure..No one can have an effective life or ministry without the power of God’s Holy Spirit working in him or her. This fact can’t be argued by anyone who truly believes the Bible is God’s Word. The Scriptures are replete with proof that it is “not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the LORD of hosts” (Zech. 4:6). It is  true that the Holy Spirit is still willing to move as in biblical times  then there is no excuse for living lives so far removed from that great  victory portrayed in God’s Word.

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If a Christian’s life isn’t full of the personal supernatural, it’s a pretentious one rather. Now  the gifts of the Holy Spirit are always flowing.as  God doesn’t turn them “on” and “off.” We are the ones who turn them  “on” or “off.”   The Lord Jesus Christ  is always ready to flow through us in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. No one has received everything that the Holy Spirit has for them. Therefore, the Lord is always seeking to release more to us through His supernatural gifts. Whenever we put ourselves in a mode to be His channel, His gifts will flow

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Most  churches have fallen away from ministering in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The gifts that operate even in in most “Spirit-filled” churches are simply words of exhortation or prophecy. There is much more even here . that should be manifested.

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1 Corinthians 12:31, “But covet earnestly the best gifts.”

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1 Corinthians 14:1, “Desire spiritual gifts.”

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You do also still  have to seek these gifts with all your heart (Jer. 29:13).  Thus that  also includes the nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit and  the Spirit of Truth, Holiness, Wisdom, of the Fear of the Lord, of Counsel, Spirit of Grace and the Spirit of Knowledge.

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There are nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit. “For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing(s) by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:” (1Corinthians 12:8-10)

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There are still nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit today even.  So seek after and learn to sue them all, The nine Gifts are often separated into three groups.

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The first group is commonly referred to as the Power Gifts.  They are called the Power Gifts because they DO something.  They are:  The Gift of Faith, the Gifts of Healings and the Working of Miracles.

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The second group is commonly referred to as the Revelation Gifts.  These are Gifts that REVEAL something.  They are:  The Word of Wisdom, the Word of Knowledge and the Discerning of Spirits.

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The third group is commonly referred to as the Utterance Gifts.  This is because they SAY something.  They are:  The Gift of Prophecy, the Gift of Tongues and the Gift of Interpretation of Tongues.

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Of course you can expect the devil and his followers to try to mislead you, distract you, turn you away from your seeking.. just perish on forward in it.The truth is that denial of the Holy Spirit’s  ministry and power of the Holy Spirit is the devil’s  theology along with his other lies now too such as that alcoholics are not responsible for their actions, depression is a chemical imbalance, abortion is ok, and homosexuality is genetic.

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The false death of the Full Gospel in North America  ” SO WHEN AND WHY DID FULL GOSPEL DIE IN NORTH AMERICA? When sin killed it..

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The False Dispensationalists, Dispensationalism

 
Note this firstly that the term Evangelical or Dispensationalists are words never found in the Bible.. anointed is the word rather that should be placed here..
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(Acts 10:38 KJV) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. ..
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The Evangelical Dispensationalists do also still tend to be trying to earn a great spot in heaven by their own good works, saving others, following the teaching of men, an evil spirit, and not the Holy Spirit rather.. http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-false-demotion-of-the-holy-spirt-jesus/
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Now about the Evangelicals, Plymouth Brethren,  Baptists  rather still ignorant so called Christians I find it so absurd that these people still tend to not know what the Bible teaches, they believe their churches false teachings on healing, Zionism, Dispensationalism,  tithing etc. 
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Now had most fundamentals evangelicals actually read their Bibles, known the Bible instead of wrongfully listening to the so called Bible teachers, false preachers, bad teachers they would not have easily deceived to neglect the present full empowerment available of all believers by the Holy Spirit…

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Read the scriptures for you think that doing so you will gain eternal life, but many people now do read the Bible and never got eternal life, cause they omitted the spirit of Jesus Christ actual teachings and the Bible”s as well
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(Mat 5:9 KJV) Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
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(Psa 133:1 KJV) Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron’s beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments; 3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the LORD commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.
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(Psa 134:1 KJV) . Behold, bless ye the LORD, all ye servants of the LORD, which by night stand in the house of the LORD.2 Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless the LORD. 3 The LORD that made heaven and earth bless thee out of Zion.
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(Acts 5:42 KJV) And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

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Acts 3:6 KJV) Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.By faith in the name of Jesus, this man whom you see and know was made strong. It is Jesus’ name and the faith that comes through him that has given this complete healing to him, as you can all see.

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2 Tim 3:5 KJV Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

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Hidden agendas, the world is full of it, many people have hidden agendas. some not too well hidden even. Sadly some people they tend present their own “facts,” but fall short in truthfulness for they tend to falsely have a hidden agenda, one of which is that often they want to get rich, and ?or live in the kingdom off self, to be falsely personally worshipped and still live in sin too.

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Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?

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(Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Jer 17:5 Thus says the Lord: Cursed [with great evil] is the strong man who trusts in {and} relies on frail man, making weak [human] flesh his arm, and whose mind {and} heart turn aside from the Lord. :6 For he shall be like a shrub {or} a person naked and destitute in the desert; and he shall not see any good come, but shall dwell in the parched places in the wilderness, in an uninhabited salt land.:7 [Most] blessed is the man who believes in, trusts in, {and} relies on the Lord, and whose hope {and} confidence the Lord is. 8 For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters that spreads out its roots by the river; and it shall not see {and} fear when heat comes; but its leaf shall be green. It shall not be anxious {and} full of care in the year of drought, nor shall it cease yielding fruit. 9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly perverse {and} corrupt and severely, mortally sick! Who can know it [perceive, understand, be acquainted with his own heart and mind]? 10 I the Lord search the mind, I try the heart, even to give to every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings. 11 Like the partridge that gathers a brood which she did not hatch {and} sits on eggs which she has not laid, so is he who gets riches by unjust means {and} not by right. He will leave them, {or} they will leave him, in the midst of his days, and at his end he will be a fool.

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Yes many Jews today are struggling for all of the Land of Israel that no longer has been Biblically Promised to them.. Time also more Christians read their Bible instead of the fictional books, bad commentaries now too.
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Very clearly and simply too there is not one verse in the New Testament that states now even after the Roman destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, and their scattering of the Nation of Israel worldwide, of a promise of the Jews restoration of the land of Israel, or even the city of Jerusalem being freed, and Jerusalem itself will only will be free after the Second Coming, the return of Jesus Christ for his bride, the Church, the true Christians.
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The sole one verse that is falsely often referred too Luke 21:24 as a supposed proof of the restoration of the Jews, Israel clearly still has nothing to do with the restoration of Israel. Do now Read the Bible for yourself now in the actual context, even in the context of the the future New Heaven and New Earth, New Jerusalem solely forthcoming to all of the true Christian believers now as well
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Luke 21:20 But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know {and} understand that its desolation has come near. Luke 21:21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside [the city] get out of it, and let not those who are out in the country come into it; Luke 21:22 For those are days of vengeance [of rendering full justice or satisfaction], that all things that are written may be fulfilled. Luke 21:23 Alas for those who are pregnant and for those who have babies which they are nursing in those days! For great misery {and} anguish {and} distress shall be upon the land and indignation {and} punishment {and} retribution upon this people. Luke 21:24 They will fall by the mouth {and} the edge of the sword and will be led away as captives to {and} among all nations; and Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled (completed). Luke 21:25 And there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars; and upon the earth [there will be] distress (trouble and anguish) of nations in bewilderment {and} perplexity [without resources, left wanting, embarrassed, in doubt, not knowing which way to turn] at the roaring (the echo) of the tossing of the sea, Luke 21:26 Men swooning away {or} expiring with fear {and} dread {and} apprehension and expectation of the things that are coming on the world; for the [very] powers of the heavens will be shaken {and} caused to totter. Luke 21:27 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with great (transcendent and overwhelming) power and [all His kingly] glory (majesty and splendor). Luke 21:28 Now when these things begin to occur, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption (deliverance) is drawing near. Luke 21:29 And He told them a parable: Look at the fig tree and all the trees; Luke 21:30 When they put forth their buds {and} come out in leaf, you see for yourselves and perceive {and} know that summer is already near. Luke 21:31 Even so, when you see these things taking place, understand {and} know that the kingdom of God is at hand. Luke 21:32 Truly I tell you, this generation (those living at that definite period of time) will not perish {and} pass away until all has taken place. Luke 21:33 The sky and the earth (the universe, the world) will pass away, but My words will not pass away.
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(Rev 21:1 KJV) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 3 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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So if any Jewish or gentile person wants to be in the new Jerusalem they have to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and personal savior rather still too. For there is no other name given unto men by which they can escape from eternal separation from God, Hell.

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This is not the only place of much too many that Dispensationalists are wrong in now too..

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It is because of such False supposedly Christian  people as You will find that the 19th century leader of the evangelical, Britain-based Plymouth Brethren was the most important figure in the development of the false “premillennial dispensationalism” – or, if you like choices, “dispensational premillennialism.”  and also   C.I.  Scofield that we now have withing only the last 300 years the new terms “Dispensationalism,” “Messianic Judaism”,  “Judaeo-Christianity,” and “Christian-Zionism.” But, more importantly, there now exists the false, heretical theological conditions necessary to allow Christians who are predisposed to do so, to support the outrages of World Jewry and Zionism. Thus, the Ahrimanic-inspired constructs of Pharisaism (Judaism) and its political arm, Zionism (by their rehabilitation and treatment by such men as Scofield) have corrupted Christianity. In other words, they are part of the terrible movement to Judaise Christianity; part of the deception that has it that Western Christian Civilisation has a “Judaeo-Christian Heritage” and that Christendom was, in fact, Judaeo-Christianity. A position most of the early Church Fathers and all of the Apostles would contest just as surely Christ Himself would contest. What is the message of the Christian Zionist? Simply stated it is this Every act taken by Israel is orchestrated by God, and should be condoned, supported, and even praised by the rest of us.

“Never mind what Israel does,” say the Christian Zionists. “God wants this to happen.” This includes the invasion of Lebanon, which killed or injured an estimated 100,000 Lebanese and Palestinians, most of them civilians; the bombing of sovereign nations such as Iraq; the deliberate, methodical brutalizing of the Palestinians-breaking bones, shooting children, and demolishing homes; and the expulsion of Palestinian Christians and Muslims from a land they have occupied for over 2,000 years.

Christian Zionism is a dangerous and a false growing segment of Christianity, which was popularized by the 19th-century American Cyrus Scofield when he wrote into a Bible his interpretation of events in history. These events all centered around Israel-past, present, and future. His Scofield Bible is today the most popular of the reference Bibles. Scofield said that Christ cannot return to earth until certain events occur. The Jews must return to Palestine, gain control of Jerusalem and rebuild a temple, and then we all must engage in the final, great battle called Armageddon. Millions of Americans falsely do believe that Palestine is God’s chosen land for the Jews.  The Scofield teaching is concerned with a literal Jewish kingdom to last for a millennium.  It was first brought into the early church by some Jews who still could not give up the hope taught to them by the scribes and Pharisees.  The Bible does not teach it, and the disciples who had been taught it, rejected it after Pentecost.  Jesus warned about it in Matthew 16:6-12. We must ask ourselves if Jesus ever offered or announced himself as an earthly King or claimed David’s throne?  Had he ever in any way suggested he was going to set up an earthly kingdom?  He said to Pilate, “My kingdom is not of this world, if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews, but now is my kingdom not from hence (John 18:36).  They could not prove him guilty before Pilate of any offense against Rome….The most reasonable interpretation of the work of Scofield is that it is neither honest nor valid.  As such, it should have the whistle blown, for it is properly outside the line of valid Christianity. The Scofield Reference Bible did, and is doing, a great disservice to the Kingdom of God.  And as for this second  biggest proponnent of the false rapture…  C.I. Scofield deserted his first wife, Leontine Carr Scofield, and his two young daughters, Abigale and Helene. The stern reality of the 1880’s was that an abandoned woman had neither welfare nor access to a well paying job. This is just our first insight into the pitiless heart of C.I. Scofield. At this time, Scofield was making overtures to two other women-an unnamed young woman from the St. Louis Flower Mission, and Hettie Van Wark whom he later married. Leontine, a devout Catholic, obtained a divorce on December 8, 1883 in Scofield’s hometown of Atcheson, Kansas. From her meager earnings as a librarian she properly educated her two daughters. The abandoned Leontine never remarried and was laid to rest in the Atcheson cemetery in 1936. Three months after the divorce, on March 11, 1884, C.I. Scofield married Hettie Van Wark. Apart from deserting his young wife and children, he was a liar, cheat, thief, self-promoter, philanderer, fraud and fantasist who was allowed to conceal his personal sins from view because of the support of his powerful handlers, both Freemason and Zionist.  Scofield was also into the Occult as well as pornography and was a drunk… He died of liver failure due to has alchohol problem and opium drug us. He had his wife work as a street girl in order to finance his drug habit. He was also indited on tax evasion.  by their own fruits you can tell what they really are said Jesus.. http://www.heart-talks.com/truth30.html

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do see also

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/tag/anointed/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/

 
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/zionism-zionists/                    
 
 
 
 

The false comforters

Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his [own] father and mother [in the sense of indifference to or relative disregard for them in comparison with his attitude toward God] and [likewise] his wife and children and brothers and sisters–[yes] and even his own life also–he cannot be My disciple. 27  Whoever does not persevere {and} carry his own cross and come after (follow) Me cannot be My disciple. 28 For which of you, wishing to build a farm building, does not first sit down and calculate the cost [to see] whether he has sufficient means to finish it?  29 Otherwise, when he has laid the foundation and is unable to complete [the building], all who see it will begin to mock {and} jeer at him, 30 Saying, This man began to build and was not able (worth enough) to finish. 31 Or what king, going out to engage in conflict with another king, will not first sit down and consider {and} take counsel whether he is able with ten thousand [men] to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? 32 And if he cannot [do so], when the other king is still a great way off, he sends an envoy and asks the terms of peace. 33 So then, any of you who does not forsake (renounce, surrender claim to, give up, say good-bye to) all that he has cannot be My disciple.
 
Luke 12:51 Do you suppose that I have come to give peace upon earth? No, I say to you, but rather division; Luke 12:52 For from now on in one house there will be five divided [among themselves], three against two and two against three. Luke 12:53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
 
 
While I totally support marriage as an essential basis of stability, morality as well in our civilization, Marriage ( Or related sex) itself is not our final goal, or the answer to all of life’s problem.. And sadly too many married people are even sinfully too self centered. Jesus UNDENIABLY firstly is the answer to the problems of life and the goal of life even for pastors, who seem too often to be sex maniacs, adulterers now too… Todd Bentley and all of the others do note especially this too
   
(1 Cor 2:2 KJV)  For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
 
(1 Cor 2:4 KJV)  And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:5  That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
 
If you put Jesus first be ready to pay the price for it even from your spouse, relatives, in-laws, others who very likely will mock you and discourage you from doing so cause they have wrongfully chosen now now to do so as well. Be willing to pay the price for follwing after JESUS  now too
 
(Mark 8:34 KJV)  And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s, the same shall save it. 36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 38  Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
 
(Micah 7:2 KJV)  The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net. 3 That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up. 4 The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity.
 
(Micah 7:5 KJV)  Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom. 6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house.
 
(Micah 7:7 KJV)  Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.
 
(Micah 7:8 KJV)  Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me. 9 I will bear the indignation of the LORD, because I have sinned against him, until he plead my cause, and execute judgment for me: he will bring me forth to the light, and I shall behold his righteousness.
 
(Micah 7:10 KJV)  Then she that is mine enemy shall see it, and shame shall cover her which said unto me, Where is the LORD thy God? mine eyes shall behold her: now shall she be trodden down as the mire of the streets.
 
(1 Cor 7:29 KJV)  But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;
 
(1 Cor 7:30 KJV)  And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;
 
(1 Cor 7:31 KJV)  And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
 
(1 Cor 7:32 KJV)  But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
 
(1 Cor 7:33 KJV)  But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.

Evangelicals & Politics

 

“The era of reducing Christianity to a narrow set of ideological commitments is over. The notion that Christianity in general and evangelicalism in particular are by nature right-wing creeds has always been wrong. How can a faith built around a commitment to the poor and the vulnerable be seen as leading ineluctably to conservative political conclusions? And when political commentators talk about “evangelicals,” they are almost always talking about white evangelicals, forgetting that millions of African Americans are devout evangelical Christians. In 2004, Warren took the view that Christians should vote on a short list of “nonnegotiable” issues, including abortion,  gays. Warren also declared: “Jesus’s agenda is far bigger than just one or two issues. . . . We have to care about poverty, we have to care about disease, we have to care about illiteracy, we have to care about corruption in government, sex trafficking.” That is the new politics of evangelical Christianity. “

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/18/AR2008081801850.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

Christians do not follow the self centered conservative Republicans, or the immoral Liberal democrat agendas rather they solely are to follow Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit himself and the Bible. True Christians care about honesty, justice, morality, fairness, human rights, poverty, the poor, helping others, love, sickness, sick, elderley, young persons etc.,

(Isa 61:1 KJV) The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

(Judg 3:10 KJV) And the spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he judged Israel, and went out to war: and the LORD delivered Chushanrishathaim king of Mesopotamia into his hand; and his hand prevailed against Chushanrishathaim.

(Judg 6:34 KJV) But the spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet; and Abiezer was gathered after him.

(Judg 11:29 KJV) Then the spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he passed over Gilead, and Manasseh, and passed over Mizpeh of Gilead, and from Mizpeh of Gilead he passed over unto the children of Ammon.

(Judg 13:25 KJV) And the spirit of the LORD began to move him at times in the camp of Dan between Zorah and Eshtaol.

(Judg 14:19 KJV) And the spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he went down to Ashkelon, and slew thirty men of them, and took their spoil, and gave change of garments unto them which expounded the riddle. And his anger was kindled, and he went up to his father’s house.

(1 Sam 10:6 KJV) And the spirit of the LORD will come upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man.

(1 Sam 16:13 KJV) Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah.

(1 Sam 16:14 KJV) But the spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

(2 Sam 23:2 KJV) The spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.

(1 Chr 28:12 KJV) And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:

(2 Chr 20:14 KJV) Then upon Jahaziel the son of Zechariah, the son of Benaiah, the son of Jeiel, the son of Mattaniah, a Levite of the sons of Asaph, came the Spirit of the LORD in the midst of the congregation;

(Isa 11:2 KJV) And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

(Isa 40:7 KJV) The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

(Isa 57:15 KJV) For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

(Isa 59:19 KJV) So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

(Isa 63:14 KJV) As a beast goeth down into the valley, the Spirit of the LORD caused him to rest: so didst thou lead thy people, to make thyself a glorious name.

(Ezek 11:5 KJV) And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them.

(Ezek 37:1 KJV) The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,

(Dan 5:14 KJV) I have even heard of thee, that the spirit of the gods is in thee, and that light and understanding and excellent wisdom is found in thee.

(Micah 3:8 KJV) But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

(Acts 5:9 KJV) Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

(1 Cor 2:12 KJV) Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

(2 Cor 3:3 KJV) Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.

(2 Cor 3:17 KJV) Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

(2 Cor 3:18 KJV) But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Zionism, Zionists, Jews, Israel

(Mat 23:37 KJV)  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39  For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.  24:1  And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. 2  And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
   
JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israel has nearly doubled construction this 2008 year in Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank in violation of a US-backed peace plan, Israel’s Peace Now movement said .
The 2 Jewish dispersions by the gentiles were both predicted beforehand. One was predicted by the prophet Jeremiah in the Old Testament, and one by Jesus Christ himself in the New Testament. It is important to note that in the first prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was a God given promise of their return. It is important to note that in the second prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was no  God given promise of their return. There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too.  after their second  dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even  for  the Jewish  return in 1948..  Do try prove me wrong..
It is unbelievable, undeniable  that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included.. And had most people most Christians read the Bible for themselves they would have known the whole truth and would not have been  so easily misled by others. 
Often we hear Zionists claim to the promised land if Israel today and supposedly justified from the Bible, based on isolated verses  or those in the Old Testament, not many frOm the New Testament for sure.. Any honest persons reading the Bible should admit that it was not the gentiles, But God himself had on two occasions in history now removed the Jews from the land of Israel,  and like most of the other nations of world  Israel now too Israel itself is not perfect and does not fully follow after God as it firstly has been commanded to do so too. They also should read their own Bible as to the reasons they were dispelled the first time.. 
 
Jer 34:8 [This is] the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord after King Zedekiah had made a covenant with all the people who were at Jerusalem to proclaim liberty to them:
Jer 34:9
Every man should let his Hebrew slaves, male and female, go free, so that no one should make a slave of a Jew, his brother.
Jer 34:10
And all the princes and all the people obeyed, who had entered into the covenant that everyone would let his manservant and his maidservant go free, so that none should make bondmen of them any more; they obeyed, and let them go.
Jer 34:11
But afterward they turned around and caused the servants and the handmaids whom they had let go free to return [to their former masters] and brought them into subjection for servants and for handmaids.
Jer 34:12
Therefore the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
Jer 34:13
Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: I made a covenant with your fathers in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage, saying,
Jer 34:14
At the end of seven years you shall let every man his brother who is a Hebrew go free who has sold himself {or} has been sold to you and has served you six years; but your fathers did not listen to {and} obey Me or incline their ear [submitting and consenting to Me].
Jer 34:15
And you recently turned around {and} repented, doing what was right in My sight by proclaiming liberty each one to his neighbor [who was his bond servant]; and you made a covenant {or} pledge before Me in the house which is called by My Name.
Jer 34:16
But then you turned around and defiled My name; each of you caused to return to you your servants, male and female, whom you had set free as they might desire; and you brought them into subjection again to be your slaves.
Jer 34:17
Therefore thus says the Lord: You have not listened to Me {and} obeyed Me in proclaiming liberty each one to his brother and neighbor. Behold, I proclaim to you liberty–to the sword, to pestilence, and to famine, says the Lord; and I will make you to be tossed to and fro {and} to be a horror among all the kingdoms of the earth!
Jer 34:18
And the men who have transgressed My covenant, who have not kept the terms of the covenant {or} solemn pledge which they had made before Me, I will make them [like] the [sacrificial] calf which they cut in two and then passed between its separated parts [solemnizing their pledge to Me]–I will make those men the calf!
Jer 34:19
The princes of Judah, the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, the priests, and all the people of the land who passed between the parts of the calf,
Jer 34:20
I will give them into the hands of their enemies and into the hands of those who seek their life. And their dead bodies will be food for the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the earth.
Jer 34:21
And Zedekiah king of Judah and his princes will I give into the hands of their enemies and into the hands of those who seek their life, and into the hand of the king of Babylon’s army which has withdrawn from you.
Jer 34:22 Behold, I will command, says the Lord, and cause them [the Chaldeans] to return to this city; and they shall fight against it and take it and burn it with fire. I will make the cities of Judah a desolation without inhabitant.
 
Jer 35:13 Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Go and say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Will you not receive instruction and listen to My words {and} obey them? says the Lord.
Jer 35:14
The command which Jonadab son of Rechab gave to his sons not to drink wine, has been carried out {and} established [as a custom for more than two hundred years]. To this day they drink no wine, but they have obeyed their father’s command. But I, even I, have persistently spoken to you, but you have not listened to {and} obeyed Me.
Jer 35:15
I have sent also to you all My servants the prophets earnestly {and} persistently, saying, Return now every man from his evil way and amend your doings and go not after other gods to serve them; and then you shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers. But you did not submit {and} consent to Me or listen to {and} obey Me.
Jer 35:16 Since the sons of Jonadab son of Rechab have fulfilled {and} established the command of their father which he commanded them, but these people have not listened to and obeyed Me,
Jer 35:17
Therefore thus says the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I am bringing upon Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them, because I have spoken to them, but they have not listened, and I have called to them, but they have not answered.
In reality the first God promised restoration of the remnant of Israel had been met.. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago – a hope which subsequently became the  reality. (”By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion.” Psalms 137:1).  And the full promised by God  restoration of the remnant of Israel and of the Gentile has been already priory fulfilled, the latter one fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ on Pentecost , in Jerusalem, as witnessed, as stated in the books of Acts before the 70 AD dispersion.. which most of the Jews wrongfully reject even till today  and next wanted to have their own Jewish only state.. The fact the full promsied return it had all had happened on Pentecost, a feast holiday to commemorate also the freeing of the slaves is very significant too. Pentecost is derived  one of the three Pilgrimage Festivals required in the Law of Moses. A Jewish holy day celebrated on the sixth of Sivan to celebrate Moses receiving the Ten Commandments and it also now commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the Apostles and other followers of Jesus as described in the Book of Acts,   ”According to the Pentateuchal legislation contained in Leviticus, a Jubilee year is the year that follows immediately seven successive Sabbatic years (the Sabbatic year being the seventh year of a seven-year cycle). Accordingly, the Jubilee year takes place at the end of seven times seven years, i.e. at the end of every forty-nine years, or the fiftieth.  Hence, the institution of the Jubilee-year system is but an extension or the working out of the Sabbatic-year legislation, viz. that as at the end of every six years there succeeds a Sabbatic year, so at the end of each seven Sabbatic years there succeeds a Jubilee year. Arguing from the analogous Pentecostal system, it is evident that the actual year in which the Jubilee occurs is not the last of the seventh Sabbatic cycle (i.e. the forty-ninth year), but the year following, namely, the fiftieth. Hence, at the end of each forty-eight years there occur two consecutive fallow years, viz. the forty-ninth, or the Sabbatic year of the seventh Sabbatic cycle and the fiftieth, or the Jubilee year.” http://www.piney.com/Jubilee.html  

In Acts 15:14-18, James confirms, interprets the prophecy of Amos 9 that describes the rebuilding of David’s tabernacle as finding its fulfillment in the calling out of Gentiles and the progressive formation of the Christian Church 

 Even in Revelation 2:17, John (quoting Jesus) promises to overcomers (i.e., the Church) a “new name” that “no one knows except the one who receives it.” This is a clear reference to the prophecy in Isa. 62:2 (“And the nations will see your righteousness, and all kings your glory; and you will be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord will designate”) and 65:15 (“but My servants will be called by another name”) about Israel’s future kingly status and restoration to Yahweh, both of which are now applied to individuals within the church.

..the New Testament fiurthermore provides us all with an expanded definition of what constitutes an “Israelite” or a “Jew”. Or perhaps we might say that the NT provides us with a “Christified” perspective on the people of God. Ethnicity is no longer the primary concern. Having Abraham’s blood in one’s veins is not the primary consideration, but rather having Abraham’s faith in one’s heart. Jesus is the true “seed” of Abraham to whom the promise was given. But if anyone is “in Christ” by faith, he or she is the “seed” of Abraham and thus an heir according to the promise.

Revelation 3:9 is especially instructive. Here Jesus promises the Church in Philadelphia that he “will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie – behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you.” There are two important points to make.First, he refers to people who “say they are Jews and are not, but lie” (for an almost identical statement, see Rev. 2:9). Clearly, in one sense, these people are Jews, the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who met regularly in the synagogue to worship. Yet, in another sense, i.e., inwardly and spiritually, they are not Jews, having rejected Jesus and now persecuted and slandered his people. Indeed, their gatherings at synagogue are energized by Satan himself. 

But if they are false Jews, who, then, are the true Jews? If they are a synagogue of Satan, who, then, constitutes a synagogue of God? John does not provide an explicit answer, but the implication seems clear. Ladd explains: “true Jews are the people of the Messiah.

Apostle Paul says the same thing very clearly: ‘For he is not a real Jew who is one outwardly, nor is true circumcision something external and physical. He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal’ (Rom. 2:28-29). That this ‘Judaism of the heart’ is not to be limited to believing Jews but includes believing gentiles is clear from Paul’s words to the Philippians: ‘For we are the true circumcision, who worship God in spirit, and glory in Christ Jesus’ (Phil. 3:3). We must conclude, then, that John makes a real distinction between literal Israel – the Jews – and spiritual Israel – the church” (43-44).  

Revelation 7:15 speaks of the saints in God’s heavenly “temple” and of God “spreading his tabernacle over them.” This is a clear allusion to Ezek. 37:26-28, a passage that in its OT context is a prophecy of Israel’s restoration. There God says, “I will establish my sanctuary in the midst of them forever. And my tabernacle will be over them . . . when my sanctuary is in the midst of them forever.“  God will wipe away every tear from their eyes” (Isa. 25:8; Rev. 7:17).

Once again some Jewish  persons are waiting for  a promised return here but they are greatly mistaken, for this return is the promised return to Jesus Christ the messiah, and it includes the Church, composed of Jews and gentiles now. This promised restoration of the remnant of Israel, and of the gentile has been fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ ..   

(Rev 3:12 KJV)  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

(Rev 21:2 KJV)  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

(Rev 21:10 KJV)  And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

As per the next full supposed re-gathering  of the twelve tribes of Israel note this had occurred in Pentecost, in the book of Acts where all of the tribes of Israel were represented, present thus.  (Acts 2:2 KJV)  And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

(Acts 2:36 KJV)  Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

(Acts 16:31 KJV)  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

(Acts 16:32 KJV)  And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

(Acts 20:20 KJV)  And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have showed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house,

But most Jews who tend to reject Jesus Christ as their Messiah, and evangelicals too, tend not to agree with this and they are waiting for rather a supposedly soley Jewish messiah, not a Jewish -gentile messiah of Jesus Christ, so next they will be deceived and disappointed by the false counterfeit messiah, the anti Christ,  (Rev 13:18 KJV)  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

and the same anti Christ who falsely will restore the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem, restore the sacrifices in the temple,

(Rev 14:9 KJV)  And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

(Rev 14:10 KJV)  The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

(Rev 14:11 KJV)  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

There are numerous passages in the NT where OT prophecies concerning Israel’s regathering and restoration are applied to the Church, indicating that the latter is the “true Israel” comprised of both believing Jews and believing Gentiles in whom the promises will be fulfilled. Or, to put it in other terms, the Church does not replace Israel but takes up and perpetuates in itself the believing remnant within the nation as a whole.

 

The “true Israel” of God, which in the OT was comprised of all ethnic Jews who were circumcised in heart, finds its NT expression in the Church, now comprised of all believing ethnic Jews and all believing ethnic Gentiles. Or, to use Paul’s imagery from Romans 11, the one Olive Tree = True Israel = the Church in which are both natural (Jewish) branches and unnatural (Gentile) branches, but in all cases “believing branches 

Jesus taught that his resurrection was the raising of the True Temple of Israel. He has replaced the priesthood, sacrifices, and sanctuary of Israel by fulfilling them in his own glorious priestly ministry and by offering, once and for all, his sacrifice for the world, that is, for both Jew and Gentile. Believers from all nations are now being built up through him into this Third Temple, the church that Jesus promised to build.

Simon Peter spoke of the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus in conjunction with the final judgment and the punishment of sinners. Instructively, this same Simon Peter, the Apostle to the Circumcision, says nothing about the restoration of the kingdom to Israel in the land of Palestine. Instead, as his readers contemplate the promise of Jesus’ Second Coming, he fixes their hope upon the new heavens and the new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

The entitlement of any one ethnic or religious group to territory in the Middle East called the “Holy Land” cannot be supported by the new testament or Old tesatment Scriptures. In fact, the land promises specific to Israel in the Old Testament were fulfilled under Joshua. The New Testament speaks clearly and prophetically about the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. No New Testament writer foresees a regathering of ethnic Israel in the land, as did the prophets of the Old Testament after the destruction of the first temple in 586 B.C. Moreover, the land promises of the Old Covenant are consistently and deliberately expanded in the New Testament to show the universal dominion of Jesus, who reigns from heaven upon the throne of David, inviting all the nations through the Gospel of Grace to partake of his universal and everlasting dominion.

and why were the Jews dispelled from Israel the second Time? Because also due  their false hope of having a Jewish state separate of Jesus Christ.

 

 God has promised to restore His Jewish people to Israel – Jer 29:14 and this promised has been fulfilled after the Babylonian exile and return now too.
Yet some evangelicals, Zionists falsely believe there are here, were simultaneous prophecies of a latter day restoration of Israel solely, alone… fullfilled in 1948
a. To be fulfilled in the last days, supposedly our modern  times, just before the Lord Jesus Christ finally returns
b. That includes the return of Jews to Palestine and the establishment of  Israel as an independent state in May, 1948, was a fulfillment of  such prophecies.

Yes next the Jewish people again as warned by God, and prophesied by Jesus, predicted too were dispersed worldwide by the Romans and God himself.

At the heart of many of the political commitments in question are two fatally flawed propositions. First, some are teaching that God’s alleged favor toward Israel today is based upon ethnic descent rather than upon the grace of Christ alone, as proclaimed in the Gospel. Second, others are teaching that the Bible’s promises concerning the land are fulfilled in a special political region or “Holy Land,” perpetually set apart by God for one ethnic group alone. As a result of these false claims, large segments of the evangelical community, our fellow citizens, and our government are being misled with regard to the Bible’s teachings regarding the people of God, the land of Israel, and the impartiality of the Gospel.

God, the Creator of all mankind, is merciful and takes no pleasure in punishing sinners. Yet God is also holy and just and must punish sin. Therefore, to satisfy both his justice and his mercy, God has appointed one way of salvation for all, whether Jew or Gentile, in Jesus Christ alone.  Jesus Christ, who is fully God and fully man, came into the world to save sinners. In his death upon the cross, Jesus was the Lamb of God taking away the sin of the world, of Jew and of Gentile alike. The death of Jesus forever fulfilled and eternally ended the sacrifices of the Jewish temple. All who would worship God, whether Jew or Gentile, must now come to him in spirit and truth through Jesus Christ alone. The worship of God is no longer identified with any specific earthly sanctuary. He receives worship only through Jesus Christ, the eternal and heavenly Temple.

To as many as receive and rest upon Christ alone through faith alone, to Jews and Gentiles alike, God gives eternal life in his heavenly inheritance. 

Bad Christian theology regarding the “Holy Land” contributed to the tragic cruelty of the Crusades in the Middle Ages. Lamentably, bad Christian theology is today attributing to secular Israel a divine mandate to conquer and hold Palestine, with the consequence that the Palestinian people are marginalized and regarded as virtual “Canaanites.” This doctrine is both contrary to the teaching of the New Testament and a violation of the Gospel mandate. In addition, this theology puts those Christians who are urging the violent seizure and occupation of Palestinian land in moral jeopardy of their own bloodguiltiness. Are we as Christians not called to pray for and work for peace, warning both parties to this conflict that those who live by the sword will die by the sword? Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ can bring both temporal reconciliation and the hope of an eternal and heavenly inheritance to the Israeli and the Palestinian. Only through Jesus Christ can anyone know peace on earth.

The present secular state of Israel, however, is not an authentic or prophetic realization of the Messianic kingdom of Jesus Christ. Furthermore, a day should not be anticipated in which Christ’s kingdom will manifest Jewish distinctives, whether by its location in “the land,” by its constituency, or by its ceremonial institutions and practices. Instead, this present age will come to a climactic conclusion with the arrival of the final, eternal phase of the kingdom of the Messiah. At that time, all eyes, even of those who pierced him, will see the King in his glory. Every knee will bow, and every tongue will declare that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign forever and ever. http://www.bible-researcher.com/openletter.html 

I must point our that the same false dispensationalists, Zionists who reject these truths in the Bible are the same persons who today tend to deny the Holy Spirit, they reject that God’s gifted men and Holy spirit gifts exist today because they are not spirit filled, led by the Holy Spirit in reality.  

http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/end/end_07.htm

 

“You are not to go to the left or to the right unless you hear a voice ( of the Holy Sprit) saying this is the way walk there in”.. Many of us have not learned as to how to hear this voice .

“Zionism is a Modern  international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra’el, “the Land of Israel”), and continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel.[1] Although its origins are earlier, the movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century.   Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE),[4][5]  Zionism can be distinguished from Territorialism, a Jewish nationalist movement calling for a Jewish homeland not necessarily in Palestine. During the early history of Zionism, a number of proposals were made for settling Jews outside of Europe, but ultimately all of these were rejected or failed. The debate over these proposals helped to define the nature and focus of the Zionist movement. Since the first century CE most Jews have lived in exile, although there has been a constant presence of Jews in the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel). According to Judaism, Eretz Israel, or Zion, is a land promised to the Jews by God according to the Bible. Following the 2nd century Bar Kokhba revolt, Jews were expelled from Palestine to form the Jewish diaspora. In the nineteenth century a current in Judaism supporting a return grew in popularity. Even before 1897, which is generally seen as the year in which practical Zionism started, Jews immigrated to Palestine, the pre-Zionist Aliyah.[10] Jewish immigration to Palestine started in earnest in 1882. The so-called First Aliyah saw the arrival of about 30,000 Jews over twenty years. Most immigrants came from Russia, where anti-semitism was rampant. They founded a number of agricultural settlements with financial support from Jewish philanthropists in Western Europe. The Second Aliyah started in 1904. Further Aliyahs followed between the two World Wars, fueled in the 1930s by Nazi persecution.  In the 1890s Theodor Herzl infused Zionism with a new and practical urgency. He brought the World Zionist Organization into being and, together with Nathan Birnbaum, planned its First Congress at Basel in 1897.[13] This current in Zionism is known as political Zionism because it aimed at reaching a political agreement with the Power ruling Palestine. Up to 1917 this was the Ottoman Empire, and then until 1948 it was Britain on behalf of the League of Nations. The WZO also supported small scale settlement in Palestine.  Lobbying by Chaim Weizmann (cultural Zionists) and others culminated in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 by the British government. This declaration endorsed the creation of a Jewish Homeland in Palestine. In 1922, the League of nations endorsed the declaration in the Mandate it gave to Britain:  Palestinian Arabs resisted Zionist migration. There were riots in 1920, 1921 and 1929, sometimes accompanied by massacres of Jews. Britain supported Jewish immigration in principle, but in reaction to Arab violence imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration. The subsequent growth in Jewish migration led to the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine which in turn led the British to establish the Peel Commission to investigate the situation. The commission (which did not examine the situation of Jews in Europe) called for a two-state solution and compulsory transfer of populations. This solution was rejected by the British and instead the White Paper of 1939 proposed an end to Jewish immigration by 1944, with a further 75,000 to be admitted by then. In principle, the British stuck to this policy until the end of the Mandate. After WWII and the Holocaust, support for Zionism increased, especially among Jewish Holocaust survivors. The British were attacked in Palestine by Zionist groups because of their restrictions on Jewish immigration, the best known attack being the 1946 King David Hotel bombing. Unable to resolve the conflict, the British referred the issue to the newly created United Nations.  In 1947, the UNSCOP recommended the partition of western Palestine into a Jewish state, an Arab state and a UN-controlled territory (Corpus separatum) around Jerusalem.[15] This partition plan was adopted on November 29th, 1947 with UN GA Resolution 181, 33 votes in favor, 13 against, and 10 abstentions. The vote itself, which required a two-third majority, was a very dramatic affair and led to celebrations in the streets of Jewish cities.[16]  The Arab states rejected the UN decision, demanding a single state with an Arab majority. violence immediately exploded in Palestine between Jews and Arabs. On 14 May 1948, at the end of the British mandate, the Jewish Agency, led by Ben-Gurion declared the creation of the State of Israel and the same day, the armies of four[17] Arab countries invaded Israel. During the following eight months, Israel forces defended the Jewish partition and conquered portions of the Arab partition, enlarging its portion to 78 percent of mandatory Palestine. The conflict led to an exodus of about 711,000 Arab Palestinians [18], of whom about 46.000 were internally displaced persons in Israel. The war ended with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, which included new cease-fire lines, the so-called Green line.  After the war the Arabs continued to reject Israel’s right to exist and demanded that it retreat to the 1947 partition lines. They sustained this demand until 1967 when the rest of western Palestine was conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War, after which Arab states demanded that Israel retreat to the 1949 cease fire line, the only “borders” currently recognized by the international community. These borders are commonly referred as the “pre-1967 borders” or the “green line”. The border with Egypt was legalized in the 1979 Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty, and the border with Jordan in the 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. After the creation of the State of Israel the WZO continued to exist as an organisation dedicated to assisting and encouraging Jews to migrate to Israel, as well as providing political support for Israel.  In addition to Jewish Zionism, there was always a small number of Christian Zionists that existed from the early days of the Zionist movement.”   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism 

 

“Over 400 years of independence under the Davidic dynasty ended in 586 BCE when the country was conquered by the Babylonians, who destroyed the Temple and exiled most of the people. However, before the century was over the Jews returned, rebuilt the Temple and restored Jewish life in the Land. For the next centuries, they knew varying degrees of self-rule under Persian (538-333 BCE) and Hellenistic (322-142 BCE) overlordship, independence under the Hasmonean dynasty (142-63 BCE) and then increasingly oppressive domination by the Romans beginning in 63 BCE. When the Jews were prevented from carrying out their traditional religious way of life, they launched a series of uprisings, which climaxed in the revolt of 66 CE.   After four years of fighting, Rome put down the Jewish Revolt and burned the Temple to the ground. Many thousands of Jews were killed, sold into slavery and dispersed to countries near and far. The only remnant of the entire Temple compound was the Western Wall, which became a place of pilgrimage and worship for Jews, and remains so to the present time.  In 132 CE, another Jewish revolt, which restored Jewish sovereignty for three years, was cruelly suppressed, claiming thousands of lives. To stamp out the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, the Romans renamed the country Palaestina.  The small Jewish community which remained in the Land gradually recovered. Institutional and communal life was reconstructed to meet the new situation without the unifying framework of the state and the Temple. Priests were replaced by rabbis, and in the absence of a central place of worship, the synagogue became the nucleus of each of the scattered communities. Between 636 and 1096, the Jewish community in the Land diminished considerable and lost some of its organizational and religious cohesiveness, ” http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm

God leads us in many ways, through his word, through people, but God will confirm his will for us still too. I have had often had to learn spiritual truths the hard way, by trying to do my own thing and failing at it, and Jesus reminding me that I could do nothing without him. Now I pray before I do anything and I await his instructions, if God does not lead me, or tells me not to do something, I tend not to do it. I had bought a pair summer shorts recently and I wanted to get matching T-shirt to it too.. I had tried a few stores but was unable to get the matching color that I had wanted. So I prayed about it and God told me not to look for it. I have learned he will deal with it his way and in his time. So I went along with my normal agendas. I had to go the drug store to get my medicine renewed so I did so. I was surprised to find the matching T-shirt, in the color I had wanted on sale at half price too in the drug store. After I pray I have come to learn to expect God will answer the prayer, I do not have to do it in my own strength.

It also now seems that unresolved problems tend to make us seek God. How to draw closer to God. You have wanted God to speak to you for a long time. You have wanted to talk to God and get answers back. This  is an opportunity for you to have a dialogue with God. God too wants to communicate with you. You might have been in church, a crusade, in your room, or outside under the stars. You felt God’s call, but you didn’t know exactly what God wanted you to do. You knew you were going to do something special, but you didn’t know what it was. Now you can also find out God’s plan for you, and others too and the literature is all free too.   It teaches you how to hear God’s voice.  God will teach you many things you need to know.  Valid spiritual tools to help you make conscious contact with God: Praise, Prayer, Humbleness, Obedience, the Bible. Get yourself ready where God speaks to you     

 

God is these days speaking to us not just through the words in the Bible. Many of us have at times sensed that something is wrong in the church  and  because of the continual deficiencies in our knowledge of scripture, deficiencies in our walk with God, deficiencies in our being able to hear the voice of God, and the fear of man we have suppressed or put aside these things, yet in our hearts these nudges of the Holy Spirit keep coming back time and again. So we have at times felt things, we have at times sensed things, but we have not necessarily known that now God has been speaking and guiding us. When we   have sought help from a preacher or teacher we too often next have in time realized in some measure that what they tend speak not from a personal knowledge of God, from the leading of God  but instead speak from the stale corn of other people books, tapes, and notes or their own views. And yet with these sweeping -general explanations these things we have known never really go away — for the Holy Spirit still speaks to men and what we  have already seen and heard of Him we do still believe  God still speaks to men, and confers upon those that love Him and are obedient His tokens of His affection — true gifts and true ministry. Next that  Word becoming flesh (in us), a personal reality in many of our life experience, that can be “seen” and “handled” by those some of those called out persons that are around us.

Do see  http://pbulow.tripod.com/wait.html     and http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Meditating%20on%20the%20Lord.htm
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/articles.htm

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/

 

 

Background

 

Comparative religion’s values

While there are some common, rare similarity amongst some of the major religions in this world, The aspect of polygamy, the rigths of divorce is clearly one that contrasts them all.. for a True Christian divorce is not permitted at all.. even if many Christians falsely practice it.
Too Many  persons do practice their own version of Christianity, and Islam it seems thus, based on what others have said it says too..
 
It is true that there are many Muslims, men as well as women, who fully do not live up to the teachings of Islam,and the other religions  now just as there are too many Christian men and women who do not live up to the teachings of Jesus, the Apostles, the Bible undeniably.
Muslims women themselves now often complain to news editors how they are abused by Muslim men. Muslim Relgion and do not have equal rights to the men, for example the right to go to school in many Muslim countries now too.. Muslims have equal rights to the other citizens in the English speaking countries.. In fact non Muslims do not have the same rights as Muslims in many Muslim countries now too and all of these facts are undeniable, and undisputable.
  
You must always still judge any person  now by what they say, but  by what they do. Bad people do bad things, no matter what their religion is now too.
  
Also real Reform from within Muslim societies is still even needed, first by even education, knowing that over half of Muslims today,  are illiterate, only 15 percent do even know  Arabic, which is the language of the Qur’an, the holy book of Islam. 
 
Note: Sikhism now also like Mormons, Hindus, Jehovah Witnesses, Islam , Buddhism, and many others  too are  a cult, sect  that bears no genuine relationship to Christianity too. It does not follow the Christian Bible too.
  
One cannot help but notice how so many of these religions differ but now they still do claim to be originated with God. A true God is certainly not so confused that he has started all these various, different and false religions.
 

Afghani journalism student Parwiz Kambakhsh has been sentenced to death for blaspheming because he not only downloaded articles regarding woman’s right’s under Islam, but also exposing the brutality against women and children by the local warlords in his community. He is being sentenced to death for “disseminating defamatory comments about Islam.”Say it isn’t soooo? Sounds like another mo-ham-med teddy bear moment to me! A three judge panel decided that his articles were blasphemous and sentenced him to die. That’s Shari’ah Law for you. The issue for this writer is the Islamic concept of blasphemy

For any religion to survive in the modern world, it needs to adapt to its reality, especially when it comes to equality between men and women concerning religious practices. As men and women should worship God in the same way, women should also have the same rights as women in assuming religious responsibilities.
Some persons try to say that Islam has freed them, but did your brothers, father, government free you yet too? or are they still killng, murdering you ?

http://gto7.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/islam-is-truly-satans-religion/

Physical abuse, Human rights abuses, Verbal abuse, silent treatment or being a control freak is also not acceptable even on the net..

Seven reasons why I believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ
The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the basis of Christianity. The Apostle Paul stated that if Christ had not been raised from the dead, than all preaching and all teaching of God’s Word would be useless and so would the Christian faith. For this reason, I would like to review seven reasons why I fully believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ.1. The historical reality of Jesus Christ is true.
The historicity of Jesus Christ is airtight. We have over 5,000 first century documents pointing to Jesus. The secular Roman historian Josephus mentions Jesus in his first century writings. There is archaeological confirmation, especially in the last 30 years, that verify the historical figures mentioned in the New Testament.

2. The character of Jesus Christ is unquestioned.
Jesus questions the authorities by asking, “Can any of you prove me guilty of sin?” (John 8:46) None of them could prove him guilty – even after painstakingly questioning and investigating him.

3. The works of Jesus Christ went unchallenged.
The works of Christ, especially his miracles, were never disputed by his foes. The religious authorities acknowledged the miracles of Jesus and even made claims that Jesus powers came from the devil.

4. The identity of Jesus was confirmed.
Jesus claimed who he was by saying, “I am the way and the truth and the life.” (John 14:6) God, the Father proclaimed, “This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!” (Mark 9:7) The Apostle Peter said, “You are the Christ”. Even the authorities knew of Jesus’ claim to be God. Granted, these all came from the Bible. However, the most compelling proof is that Jesus the Messiah fulfilled over 700 prophecies of the Old Testament.

5. The death of Jesus was undisputed.
He did not pretend to be dead. The grisly details are recorded of his resurrection, including the fact that a spear was thrust into his side and the Romans did not have to break his legs.

6. The burial of Jesus was public and secure.
He was placed in the tomb of a prominent Jew. The huge stone was set in place and sealed. Roman guards were posted and if they had truly “slept” through the stealing of Jesus’ body, they would have been executed. Besides, would this fearful band of disciples have the nerve to overcome the guards or sneak in to steal the body?

7. The evidence for Jesus’ resurrection is convincing.
The resurrection was predicted by Old Testament prophets. Jesus predicted his death and resurrection several times to his disciples. He appeared over twelve times to over 500 people over a period of forty days. He appeared to Saul, the great persecutor of the early Christians, and his life was transformed. The transformation of Peter from cowering in front of the accusations of a little girl to boldly proclaiming Christ in public and in front of the religious authorities is amazing.

The fact remains that Christians don’t have to throw their brains in the trash can to say that Jesus died and rose again. When you put the evidence in court and the witnesses on the stand, the truth points very solidly in favor of Jesus. What is proclaimed in the Bible is true.

So, what does this mean for us today?

1. The resurrection of Jesus Christ validates the claim that he is the way, the truth and the life.

2. It gives absolute hope for the future. Jesus tells us, “Because I live, you also will live.” (John 14:19) He also says, “In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.” (John 14:2-3)

3. It offers spiritual life right now. By faith, we receive Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit. Our lives our transformed and we are given peace.

You are the jury. You are given the opportunity to accept or reject the evidence. Your response will determine your destiny.

There are certainly skeptics in the world whose goal is to refute the resurrection itself or even the existence of Christ. Even though there is enough evidence strong enough for a truly objective person to consider the truth as stated in God’s Word. So, then why do people still stubbornly reject Jesus’ claim?

We are given a clue in John 3:19. “This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because there deeds were evil.” People reject the truths of the gospel because they love the darkness. The Light of Christ exposes our life. It reveals the fact that we are full of pride and self-centeredness. Our sinful nature exalts our self over a God. The Light tells us to turn from darkness (our self, our pride) and turn to Christ. We turn because we realize that we have a need we can’t possibly fill on our own – not because Christians don’t have good answers to difficult questions.

For all those who are reading this post and have not accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, I ask you to come to the Light and receive Christ. For those who already believe, stay strong and do not be afraid or timid to share the truth. Remember, Jesus told us, “I am with you to the very end of the age.”

These thoughts were taken from an excellent series entitled, “Why I Believe” by Chip Ingram.

http://witnesswell.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/seven-reasons-why-i-believe-in-the-resurrection-of-jesus-christ/

 

Do also see

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/sikhism-is-an-independent-religion-and-it-is-not-a-sect-of-islam-or-hinduism/

http://abdoukili.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/religious-inequality/

 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/

http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/marriage/

http://groups.msn.com/Jesussayscome  

http://pbulow.tripod.com

http://groups.msn.com/HolySpiritCome

 

More Food for thought

The world is seeking scientists.  The Church is seeking scholars.  But God is seeking his true prophets.
 
Where is the power of God that we see in the Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And  what  are we  doing  that is now different in the Church  from that  I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible?  

(Psa 63:1) O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee: my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is;
(Psa 63:2) To see thy power and thy glory, so  as I have seen thee in the sanctuary.
(Psa 63:3) Because thy lovingkindness is better than life, my lips shall praise thee.
(Psa 63:4) Thus will I bless thee while I live: I will lift up my hands in thy name.
(Psa 63:5) My soul shall be satisfied as with marrow and fatness; and my mouth shall praise thee with joyful lips:
(Psa 63:6) When I remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on thee in the night watches.
(Psa 63:7) Because thou hast been my help, therefore in the shadow of thy wings will I rejoice.

 
    
Isaiah 63:4-6 For the day of vengeance (The day of fire) is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come. (The day of redemption of the little ones) And I looked, and there was none to help; (No man) and I wondered that there was none to uphold: (No intercessor) therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me. And I will tread down the people (The unrighteous, unholy, gentile church) in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth. (Till they are no more – blotted out or their candlestick is removed)
 
“Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on thee, because he trusteth in thee.” Isaiah 26:3. “And the Peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.” Phil 4:7.  
     
Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.” Over the years many have questioned the lack of power in their Baptism of the Holy Spirit as opposed to what they read in Scripture and the New Testament and here we have the answer that has been in plain sight for all to see all along and in quite concrete terms –
  
For in the hour when famine sweeps the land He shall feed by His own hand those who are submitted to His perfect will and who dwell in the secret place of the Most High. When terror stalks the land those in His harness shall not be afraid for they shall feel His bit and bridle and know the guidance of His Spirit. When others are weak and frail and fearful there shall be those who shall be strong in the power of His might and shall lack for no good thing. In the hour when the traditions of the religious systems have proven faLet us wait before Him until He puts His noose around us and draws us to His place of training. And let us learn of the dealings of God and the movings of His Spirit until at last we feel His harness drop about us and hear His voice guiding us. Then there is safety from the traps and pitfalls of sin and then shall we abide in His House forever!   Let us wait before Him until He puts His noose around us and draws us to His place of training. And let us learn of the dealings of God and the movings of His Spirit until at last we feel His harness drop about us and hear His voice guiding us. Then there is safety from the traps and pitfalls of sin and then shall we abide in His House forever!
 
There were ten virgins, but like many groups of people, there was a line of division among them.  Let us consider the following: they were ALL virgins, separated from the world, or stated another way, they were ALL saved. They ALL had lamps lit and burning, filled with the blessings of God, letting their lights shine as they went. They were ALL called to the wedding feast, and they ALL came, unlike those in the parable of the feast where they that were bidden ALL made excuses. They ALL definitely loved the Lord, and they ALL were ready as they lined up to wait for Him. The five foolish cried in dismay, “Our lamps are going out!” It was not something they wanted at all. They asked to share, which under other circumstances was the Christian thing to do. But this oil was something that could not be shared. It has been said many times that in God, good things, even “Christian things” are the enemy of God’s best! Good things can ruin you. What you do not know can hurt you, just as it did to those five. I would like to suppose that part of the answer to this problem for the ten virgins is that the five foolish were relying on their present experience—which suddenly dried up, whereas the five wise virgins had a reserve for the time of drought: something they had paid a price for earlier. They may not have even been aware of it but they had it with them in their hour of need. This something that the five had in their possession caused God to acknowledge them. Its lack in the five foolish caused Him to respond, “I never (intimately) knew you.  The oil it definitely speaks of a personal relationship with the Lord since He stated that He did not know those who did not have it when He came.

Choice of the Godly

In the prophet Isaiah we find a gripping statement. Isaiah 56:3-5 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree. For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my Sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.

Too many wolves in sheep clothing in the churches today

We live in an epidemic of adultery fornication divorce and abortion in the church. – the reason we live in such an epidemic in the church is that Christians of every stripe. Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Pentecostals, and Charismatics, have no foundation of the rock of the Word of God in their life. Most believers that I have met have never once read the bible cover to cover. They have come to believe that if they mumble a few words about accepting Christ in their heart, that it is now all good, that they have passed from death unto life, and so they do not have to worry anymore about such mundane things as their having to obey the Words and Commandments of Jesus Christ and the Apostles.  Nothing could be father from the truth, disobedience and rebellion no matter where when or what you may have mumbled at some point of your life – brings forth eternal death in your soul.   (Mat 7:13 KJV)  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.15   Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. One in five abortions in this nation last year were done by people who declared themselves to be Evangelicals or Born Again.  Nearly half or 46% of all babies in the City of Brotherly love were dismembered and brutally killed by means of abortion. Moreover, there are twenty-five other major urban cities in America that report having a higher abortion rate than live birth rate.  Issues4Life Foundation reported 49% percent of all abortions are African-American though we only make up 12% of the population.  It is an amazing and terrible thing when in a single generation the Church (And we are speaking here of Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Pentecostals, and Charismatics) — have exceeded the lost in fornication, have exceeded the lost in divorce, have exceeded the lost in adultery, and now have exceeded the lost in abortion.  Galatians 5:18-23 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  (Paul repeats this again. The list above is a list of disqualifications for salvation.) Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers (Fornicators) and adulterers God will judge. (Destroy) James 2:10-12 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

 
Diane Dew’s Bible Studies

Psalm 40:7-8 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.

Isaiah 42:1-2 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.  

And if the righteous scarcely be saved,

blessed (3).
Is It God’s Will That any  Christian Minister Should Be Poor?
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Luke 6:20-26 And he (Jesus) lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. 21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh. 22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake. 23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. 24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. 25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep. 26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

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Sadly it is too often the fact that some  people take isolated verses to falsely justify their false doctrines neglecting the other applicable  verses even on prosperity, riches

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Psalms 37- 16 A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of  many wicked.

Psalms 52- 7 Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness.
Psalms 62-10 Trust not in oppression, and become not vain in robbery: if riches increase, set not your heart upon them.
Proverbs 10- 22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.
Proverbs 11- 4 Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death.
Proverbs 13- 7 There is that maketh himself rich, yet hath nothing: there is that maketh himself poor, yet hath great riches.
Proverbs 22 – 1 A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.
Proverbs 22-1 A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.

Proverbs 22-0 16 He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.

Proverbs 23- 4 Labour not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom.
Proverbs 23- 5 Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.
Proverbs 28 – 6 Better is the poor that walketh in his uprightness, than he that is perverse in his ways, though he be rich
Proverbs 28  – 20 A faithful man shall abound with blessings: but he that maketh haste to be rich shall not be innocent.
Proverbs 28  – 22 He that hasteth to be rich hath an evil eye, and considereth not that poverty shall come upon him.
Proverbs 30- 8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:

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If it was God’s will that all Christians be rich then again why did Jesus say to his disciples that they are blessed even if they were poor?

..Yes many people falsely lust after money thinking it would next give peace and happiness, but they are wrong it increases their sorrows..

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Romans 13:11-12  “. . . knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light.”

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Because of the love of  money many will next fail to enter heaven.. The love of  Money the root of all evil,

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2 Corinthians 7:1 “Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.”

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God himself meets all of our needs, not our wants and desires..

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Hebrews 4:1 “Let us therefore fear, lest, the promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.”

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Hebrews 4:10-11 “For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.”

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 “Did I believe that it was God’s will for Christians to be poor?

Read Luke 6:20 again And he (Jesus) lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.

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 The Sermon on the Mount was preached to the multitudes but note  in Luke 6:20 it says that Jesus was speaking to the disciples.

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Now if Jesus said to the disciples, those in the minstry are  blessed because  be ye poor it would seem self-evident that it was not only His will but that he was blessing those that were his disciples, and followers that were and remained financially poor.
Note this also There is no place in the New Testament that Christ says blessed be ye rich.  
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 There is also no place in the New Testament that the Apostles themselves were blessed to be rich. 
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Matthew 19:23-25 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
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So he said Christ was actually speaking about one of the gates around the city of Jerusalem that was called the eye of the needle where a camel had to stoop and crawl on his hands and knees to get though the eye of the needle gate – and so if a rich man will humble himself Go will accept him. That is not at all what Christ said. Look now at the words of the disciples, they grasped the gravity of Christ’s words and it struck them with fear (The word Amazed in King James is fear in the Greek. This saying filled them with fear.  Why, because they wanted and were desirous to be wealthy.

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Consider now Peter’s words. 

1 Peter 4:18-20 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. 

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And this does not sound like a good eternal security verse. This not sound like good  verse for those who want to live in careless ease in Zion. This not sound like a good verse for those who preach that it is not the will of God for a Christian to be poor. This does not sound like a good verse for those who preach that is not the will of God for us to suffer.  

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1 Peter 3:17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing. 

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It is better to suffer the momentary in this life for doing the will of God than to suffer eternal damnation for following after the lusts, the pleasures and riches of this life. 

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The audience to whom Peter is writing this letter are all churches that were not only founded by the Apostles themselves, but these were churches that the Apostles had repeatedly visited and had taught not only the Gospel of Christ but the Doctrine of Christ as well 

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Peter tells us that among those believers the righteous are scarcely saved.  Then we should be asking ourselves were does that leave us some 2000 years later in a church that has little or no foundation, a church that has more in common with the liberaqlized traditional churches of Roman Catholic Church, Menno Simons, Martin Luther, and John Calvin, than with Jesus Christ and the Apostles?

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Luke 16:19-25 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23And in hell he (The rich man) lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

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What was the rich man’s sin?  Jesus said he was evil so that was why he was in Hell? or Did Christ say he was unjust? or what did Jesus really say was his sin?    Jesus said he was wealthy and ate sumptuously every day. –  That was his sin, that was his defilement, and that cost him his soul.
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Look back now at Luke chapter 6:  “But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. 25Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.”  
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What did Lazarus do to earn a spot in Abraham’s bosom? Did Christ say he was righteous? Did Christ say he prayed morning noon and night? No Jesus said he was a beggar that laid at the gates of the rich man desiring the crumbs that fell from his table and the dogs licked the man’s sores.
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Look again at Luke chapter 6: Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. 21Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh. 

This should send a chill up your spine because the parable of the rich man and Lazarus shows that Jesus meant exactly what he said in Luke chapter 6. 

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Look now at the words of Paul the Apostle,   Yet in this passage we see Paul the Apostle echoing the words of Luke: 6

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2 Corinthians 6:9-11 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;  As sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

As unknown = He made himself of no reputation.
As dying = He who seeks to save his life shall lose it and he who seeks to lose his life shall save it..
As chastened = He chastens every son he loves, and scourgeth every son He receives.
As sorrowful = Woe unto you that shall laugh now.
As poor = woe unto you that are rich.
As having nothing = Whosoever does not leave houses and lands mother father sister brother is not worthy of me.
 

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There is no verse where Christ or the Apostles said blessed be ye that are rich.   

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There is no verse where Christ and the Apostles said blessed are ye when ye love the corrupt mammon of world and the things of the world.    Rather

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(1 Cor 16:22 KJV)  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 

(1 John 2:15 KJV)  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 

(Mat 6:24 KJV)  No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 

(Mark 3:27 KJV)  No man can enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

When John the Baptist was in prison and he knew he was to die he sent his remaining disciples to Christ to ask if He was indeed the Messiah. And Jesus responded:

(Luke 7:22 KJV)  Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

(Luke 7:23 KJV)  And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.

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Revelation 3:14-16 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 
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Many preachers are rightfully being dsirepsected by so many because they are not being fooled by the false prosperity, self centered evangelcial Gospel.. 

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When the land vomited out its inhabitants they were not just removed from the land they were destroyed. And so when one is vomited out of Christ’s mouth this person is no longer IN CHRIST, they are no longer part of Him they have been cast into outer darkness for causing offense.   

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Is it a strange thing when we find Christ enacting His words?  And He shall be cast into outer darkness, and there shall be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. And is it also strange that a “believer” would be cast into hell for an offense of being rich, having a love for corrupt mammon, and having a love for the things of the world?

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 This is what Paul spoke of when he said he feared that:” 1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. 

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And in this case an entire Laodicean Church had become defiled, they had caused offense of turning from the Gospel and living a life that was daily dependant upon the Lord and instead they turned to the god of this world, and exercised themselves in his wealth building programs. And so Christ vomited them out, Jesus spewed those that had defiled themselves and their garments out from himself.  

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So now let us look at their defilement, that which caused Christ to reject those who one had walked in his ways.  

Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 

http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Is%20It%20God%27s%20will%20that%20a%20Christain%20be%20Poor.htm

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Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

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 Look I am not alone in this view.. too many Canadian persons have noticed that we have much too many alcoholics in the governments, even as elected ones, even as leaders, Brian Mulroney was known for his boozing now too.. Regretfully still there  much too many alcoholics even in the Conservative party now for my liking,  , in this area too they are just as bad as the Liberal too it seems..  and who can forget Ralph Klein’s alcoholic outburts too, A man is certainly known what he is like by the friends he keep and having an brain damaged alcoholic as a friend, as a  drinking buddy is really no virtue, it is a sad recommendation,  a poor reference that you cannot even be now proud off.. The Prime Minister Stephen Harper a professing Christian Missinary Alliance Evangelcial too had said that the ex PM Brian Mulroney was a close friend.. he Harper now really better start to get better friends and appointees than his alcoholic drinking buddies.. and still not one cent of taxpayers’ money should ever be even used  to buy any alcoholic, alcohol  at any governmental function, expense account.. for we all know how bad alcoholism is and how much evil , suffering it brings, all alcoholics should be fired, especially all of the alcoholic the public and civil servants, all alcoholic  elected officials too  and  not rather falsely  rewarded with more alcohol for almost all of them are already known to be liars, cheat’s thieves, abusers, etc.

see

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/

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The 2 Promised Returns of Jews to Israel?

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Jews will always be far from any right to the the promise land because of all their own unrepentant SINS, ACTS,  even the blood shed of many others that  they have killed  from generations to generation even the shed blood of Jesus. (Mat 23:38 KJV)  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39   For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.  The Jews alone have by their return to Israel have usurped the authority of the Lord God of Hosts Himself, who alone has the right to give and take away the land of Israel as so far there is no New testament word confirming any of it’s return.. …the Land belongs now to Jesus Christ alone and his bride the Church… it is all his, he had undeniably bought it with his life and redeemed it alone!   I’m getting fed up with the way some groups equate even the slightest criticism of Israeli state policy with antisemitism. There’s a big difference between believing in the right of self-determination and sovereignty for ALL people and being a racist bigot. Too bad that too many institutions don’t seem to know the difference and cave every time the antisemitism card is played. Can anyone do or say anything that disagrees with mighty Israel without being labelled “anti-semetic”?? The all-powerful “anti-Semitism” card has again been played against me the force of a blunt object; for when these Jewish patriots don’t like what I say they start their personal slanders,  personal;  attacks, name calling against me.. I know that the Jews were o0nce  “God’s Chosen People” and the rest of us we still are just whatever… but when Israel behaves like a violent psychopathic bully and someone mentions it that does NOT make them anti-Semitic.  ” Those who question the legitimacy of Israel’s actions are immediately labelled anti-Semitic by some quarters, effectively undermining the turn of phrase by using it in this context. We are right to question the state of Israel’s actions and I am not anti-Semitic for doing so. I think the religious fundamentalism exhibited by certain Zionist and Orthodox Jewish groups needs to be dealt with in a similar manner to Islamic fundamentalism, I don’t see the distinction between the two, both are equally repulsive. ”  THEY BOTH FALSELY DO PREACH THEIR VERSION OF THE LETTER OF THE LAW OVER LOVE  YOUR NEIGHBOUR  TOO! And for the record, their troubled history is not a license for them to act with impunity now.   “Church’s reputation seen at risk” for criticizing Israel !! Is this a secular country or a Jewish theocracy? If the church back down because of the threat from Jewish then all who are at the meeting should question their own soul if they are messenger of god or cowards who can be bullied to save their self-interest. Nobody should tell them what to do if they believe it is the right thing to do then they have to do it. I recently watched a clip where Palestinians evicted from a house they were living in since before the creation of Israel and the house given to Jews. What did Hitler do to the Jews…confiscate their property and made them homeless. They are doing the same to Palestinians. It is not just the right thing for the church to stand up against injustice and unpopular actions but there will be a day they will be questioned as we are questioning today; why the Catholic church stood by and let Hitler do all those injustices. They have to make their decision based on the facts they gathered and their conscious. They do not have to look for guidance from Jews…they just have to pray god to guide them to do the right thing. THE PROPHET MOSES HIMSELF WAS NOW DENIED ENTRANCE TO THE PROMISED LAND FOR HIS OWN SIN OF DISOBEDIENCE NOW EVEN IN STRIKING THE ROCK TWICE INSTEAD OF ONCE AS HE WAS COMMANDED BY GOD TO DO SO. Next SO IS THE VALID, LEGITIMATE PRESENT ENTRANCE OF THE JEWS TO THE PROMISED LAND NOW ALSO BEING DENIED BY GOD FOR THEIR OWN LACK OF FULL OBEDIENCE TO ALL OF GOD’S COMMANDMENTS, HIS WORDS TO THEM..  It seems that anything anti Jewish is falsely distorted as being anti-Semitism again. And so is the New Testament, Christians, the apostles, and Jesus Christ now as well.. Well Free speech, Human Rights, freedom  of religion and freedom of religious beliefs is still my right for all even for non Jewish persons too. 
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Too bad still that  both the Jews and Arabs falsely, deliberately, equally do refuse to live in peace! and cannot forgive one another but demand an eye for an eye.. more hatred..  Asking all of us taking sides in a much more complex issue over them living in peace, their false religious wars are also here.. and they do  too often falsely demand, want to enforce their one side rules upon all of the others.. Less any one gets lost, there are Good Jews, Good Arabs, good Americans, good Canadians and bad ones too.   But it seems both Jews and Arabs are equally guilty of hate, unforgiveness, revenge, theft, murder, an eye for an eye approach  so we can really not support either side as being mainly in the right. Isn’t it nice that I can still choose who my friends are and I can still choose to still know the real truths.. http://thenonconformer.multiply.com/journal/item/9
Here are the facts that many falsely do not speak of about Islam as well.      http://www.christian-restoration.com/Editorial/Islam%20and%20Christianity.htm …
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(Mat 23:37 KJV)  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39  For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.  24:1  And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. 2  And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
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The 2 Jewish dispersions by the gentiles were both predicted beforehand. One was predicted by the prophet Jeremiah in the Old Testament, and one by Jesus Christ himself in the New Testament. It is important to note that in the first prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was a God given promise of their return. It is important to note that in the second prediction about the dispersions of Israel from their promised land there was no  God given promise of their return. There actually is no Biblical promised prophecy, promised second return of the Jews to Israel in the Old Testament or in the whole Bible now too.  after their second  dispersion from Israel by the Romans in 70 ad.. . Not even one Bible verse even  for  the Jewish  return in 1948..  Do try prove me wrong.. http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-2-promised-returns/
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Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies. Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East. And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel. .John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of Jews,, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too. The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather.
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It is unbelievable, undeniable  that the professing Christian people who do not know the Bible can be so easily deceived, led astray too by many others, pastors and Jewish persons, Zionists included.. And had most people most Christians read the Bible for themselves they would have known the whole truth and would not have been  so easily misled by others. 
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Often we hear Zionists claim to the promised land if Israel today and supposedly justified from the Bible, based on isolated verses  or those in the Old Testament, not many frOm the New Testament for sure.. Any honest persons reading the Bible should admit that it was not the gentiles, But God himself had on two occasions in history now removed the Jews from the land of Israel,  and like most of the other nations of world  Israel now too Israel itself is not perfect and does not fully follow after God as it firstly has been commanded to do so too. They also should read their own Bible as to the reasons they were dispelled the first time.. 
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Jer 34:8 [This is] the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord after King Zedekiah had made a covenant with all the people who were at Jerusalem to proclaim liberty to them:
Jer 34:9
Every man should let his Hebrew slaves, male and female, go free, so that no one should make a slave of a Jew, his brother.
Jer 34:10
And all the princes and all the people obeyed, who had entered into the covenant that everyone would let his manservant and his maidservant go free, so that none should make bondmen of them any more; they obeyed, and let them go.
Jer 34:11
But afterward they turned around and caused the servants and the handmaids whom they had let go free to return [to their former masters] and brought them into subjection for servants and for handmaids.
Jer 34:12
Therefore the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
Jer 34:13
Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: I made a covenant with your fathers in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage, saying,
Jer 34:14
At the end of seven years you shall let every man his brother who is a Hebrew go free who has sold himself {or} has been sold to you and has served you six years; but your fathers did not listen to {and} obey Me or incline their ear [submitting and consenting to Me].
Jer 34:15
And you recently turned around {and} repented, doing what was right in My sight by proclaiming liberty each one to his neighbor [who was his bond servant]; and you made a covenant {or} pledge before Me in the house which is called by My Name.
Jer 34:16
But then you turned around and defiled My name; each of you caused to return to you your servants, male and female, whom you had set free as they might desire; and you brought them into subjection again to be your slaves.
Jer 34:17
Therefore thus says the Lord: You have not listened to Me {and} obeyed Me in proclaiming liberty each one to his brother and neighbor. Behold, I proclaim to you liberty–to the sword, to pestilence, and to famine, says the Lord; and I will make you to be tossed to and fro {and} to be a horror among all the kingdoms of the earth!
Jer 34:18
And the men who have transgressed My covenant, who have not kept the terms of the covenant {or} solemn pledge which they had made before Me, I will make them [like] the [sacrificial] calf which they cut in two and then passed between its separated parts [solemnizing their pledge to Me]–I will make those men the calf!
Jer 34:19
The princes of Judah, the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, the priests, and all the people of the land who passed between the parts of the calf,
Jer 34:20
I will give them into the hands of their enemies and into the hands of those who seek their life. And their dead bodies will be food for the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the earth.
Jer 34:21
And Zedekiah king of Judah and his princes will I give into the hands of their enemies and into the hands of those who seek their life, and into the hand of the king of Babylon’s army which has withdrawn from you.
Jer 34:22 Behold, I will command, says the Lord, and cause them [the Chaldeans] to return to this city; and they shall fight against it and take it and burn it with fire. I will make the cities of Judah a desolation without inhabitant.
 
Jer 35:13 Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Go and say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Will you not receive instruction and listen to My words {and} obey them? says the Lord.
Jer 35:14
The command which Jonadab son of Rechab gave to his sons not to drink wine, has been carried out {and} established [as a custom for more than two hundred years]. To this day they drink no wine, but they have obeyed their father’s command. But I, even I, have persistently spoken to you, but you have not listened to {and} obeyed Me.
Jer 35:15
I have sent also to you all My servants the prophets earnestly {and} persistently, saying, Return now every man from his evil way and amend your doings and go not after other gods to serve them; and then you shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers. But you did not submit {and} consent to Me or listen to {and} obey Me.
Jer 35:16 Since the sons of Jonadab son of Rechab have fulfilled {and} established the command of their father which he commanded them, but these people have not listened to and obeyed Me,
Jer 35:17
Therefore thus says the Lord God of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I am bringing upon Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them, because I have spoken to them, but they have not listened, and I have called to them, but they have not answered.
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In reality the first God promised restoration of the remnant of Israel had been met.. The aspiration of returning to their homeland was first held by Jews exiled to Babylon some 2,500 years ago – a hope which subsequently became the  reality. (”By the water of Babylon, there we sat down and wept when we remembered Zion.” Psalms 137:1).  And the full promised by God  restoration of the remnant of Israel and of the Gentile has been already priory fulfilled, the latter one fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ on Pentecost , in Jerusalem, as witnessed, as stated in the books of Acts before the 70 AD dispersion.. which most of the Jews wrongfully reject even till today  and next wanted to have their own Jewish only state..
 
The fact the full promised return it had all had happened on Pentecost, a feast holiday to commemorate also the freeing of the slaves is very significant too. Pentecost is derived  one of the three Pilgrimage Festivals required in the Law of Moses. A Jewish holy day celebrated on the sixth of Sivan to celebrate Moses receiving the Ten Commandments and it also now commemorates the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the Apostles and other followers of Jesus as described in the Book of Acts,   ”According to the Pentateuchal legislation contained in Leviticus, a Jubilee year is the year that follows immediately seven successive Sabbatic years (the Sabbatic year being the seventh year of a seven-year cycle). Accordingly, the Jubilee year takes place at the end of seven times seven years, i.e. at the end of every forty-nine years, or the fiftieth.  Hence, the institution of the Jubilee-year system is but an extension or the working out of the Sabbatic-year legislation, viz. that as at the end of every six years there succeeds a Sabbatic year, so at the end of each seven Sabbatic years there succeeds a Jubilee year. Arguing from the analogous Pentecostal system, it is evident that the actual year in which the Jubilee occurs is not the last of the seventh Sabbatic cycle (i.e. the forty-ninth year), but the year following, namely, the fiftieth. Hence, at the end of each forty-eight years there occur two consecutive fallow years, viz. the forty-ninth, or the Sabbatic year of the seventh Sabbatic cycle and the fiftieth, or the Jubilee year.” http://www.piney.com/Jubilee.html  

In Acts 15:14-18, James confirms, interprets the prophecy of Amos 9 that describes the rebuilding of David’s tabernacle as finding its fulfillment in the calling out of Gentiles and the progressive formation of the Christian Church 

 Even in Revelation 2:17, John (quoting Jesus) promises to overcomers (i.e., the Church) a “new name” that “no one knows except the one who receives it.” This is a clear reference to the prophecy in Isa. 62:2 (“And the nations will see your righteousness, and all kings your glory; and you will be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord will designate”) and 65:15 (“but My servants will be called by another name”) about Israel’s future kingly status and restoration to Yahweh, both of which are now applied to individuals within the church.

..the New Testament furthermore provides us all with an expanded definition of what constitutes an “Israelite” or a “Jew”. Or perhaps we might say that the NT provides us with a “Christified” perspective on the people of God. Ethnicity is no longer the primary concern. Having Abraham’s blood in one’s veins is not the primary consideration, but rather having Abraham’s faith in one’s heart. Jesus is the true “seed” of Abraham to whom the promise was given. But if anyone is “in Christ” by faith, he or she is the “seed” of Abraham and thus an heir according to the promise.

Revelation 3:9 is especially instructive. Here Jesus promises the Church in Philadelphia that he “will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie – behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you.” There are two important points to make.First, he refers to people who “say they are Jews and are not, but lie” (for an almost identical statement, see Rev. 2:9). Clearly, in one sense, these people are Jews, the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who met regularly in the synagogue to worship. Yet, in another sense, i.e., inwardly and spiritually, they are not Jews, having rejected Jesus and now persecuted and slandered his people. Indeed, their gatherings at synagogue are energized by Satan himself. 

But if they are false Jews, who, then, are the true Jews? If they are a synagogue of Satan, who, then, constitutes a synagogue of God? John does not provide an explicit answer, but the implication seems clear. Ladd explains: “true Jews are the people of the Messiah.

Apostle Paul says the same thing very clearly: ‘For he is not a real Jew who is one outwardly, nor is true circumcision something external and physical. He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal’ (Rom. 2:28-29). That this ‘Judaism of the heart’ is not to be limited to believing Jews but includes believing gentiles is clear from Paul’s words to the Philippians: ‘For we are the true circumcision, who worship God in spirit, and glory in Christ Jesus’ (Phil. 3:3). We must conclude, then, that John makes a real distinction between literal Israel – the Jews – and spiritual Israel – the church” (43-44).  

Revelation 7:15 speaks of the saints in God’s heavenly “temple” and of God “spreading his tabernacle over them.” This is a clear allusion to Ezek. 37:26-28, a passage that in its OT context is a prophecy of Israel’s restoration. There God says, “I will establish my sanctuary in the midst of them forever. And my tabernacle will be over them . . . when my sanctuary is in the midst of them forever.“  God will wipe away every tear from their eyes” (Isa. 25:8; Rev. 7:17).

Christ did not simply do away with the law, he ended or fulfilled it. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill” (Matt. 5: 17). The law being fulfilled we as true Christians by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ now live under Christ’s new laws. His new Covenant, New Testament, the old one being done away now, no longer applicable. Jesus’ apostles are “able ministers of the new testament” (2 Cor. 3: 6). The Law of Moses could not impart life (2 Cor. 3: 7-18). The law was only a “schoolmaster to bring us (Jew, dm) unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith” (Gal. 3: 24). “But after that faith is come,” Paul continued, “we are no longer under a schoolmaster” (vs. 25). Paul warned regarding any who would attempt justification by the Law of Moses. Hear him: “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace” (Gal. 5: 4). One cannot be saved by a system of meritorious works that seek to earn salvation and by grace at the same time (Rom. 11: 6). John said, “For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ” (Jn. 1: 17). Christ was the end of the law in that he fulfilled it. Jesus became the ultimate and perpetual sacrifice for the sins of the world (Heb. 7-9). Jesus has all authority in heaven and earth and we are to hear him (Matt. 28: 18; 17: 5). Jesus is to be heard over Moses and Elias (law and prophets, Matt. 17: 4, 5). “For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses…And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant…But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we…,” argued the writer of Hebrews (Heb. 3: 3, 5, 6). http://www.bibletruths.net/Archives/BTAR127.htm

First, while Jesus was born under the law and lived perfectly under the law, the focus of his teaching and the goal of His life was the establishment of His new covenant, KINGDOM. Everything Jesus said about the kingdom is of application to His own new kingdom whenever it arrived. Jesus said we are thus to obey his laws and not the law of Moses..

Heb 7:19: “for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.”

The old covenant is obsolete, and the new covenant has been established.

Christians are not obligated to keep “the law of Moses.”

When Paul discussed “the law,” he was often concerned with the entire law of Moses, and he wrote that Christians were not under the authority of that law. Our obligation to obey God is defined by a different law, a spiritual law, which in some cases overlaps Old Testament laws but in other cases supersedes them. there was a problem with the first covenant — the people were not faithful and were not able to obey (verses 7-9). God therefore promised a new covenant, and “by calling this covenant `new,’ he has made the first one obsolete” (verse 13). The old covenant is obsolete — ended. The agreement and its terms of relationship no longer have authority. Now we cannot assume that any part of the contract is valid when the entire contract has been declared obsolete. The old covenant was glorious, but it was “fading away,” replaced by a covenant much more glorious.

The old covenant was built around the core of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 34:28).

The old covenant is obsolete (Hebrews 8:13).

The new covenant has been established (Hebrews 8:6).

In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin you had no pleasure. Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come– in the volume of the book it is written of Me– to do Your will, O God.’ ” Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. [Hebrews 10:6-9]

Note again the New Testament, Colossians 2:14, 16, since the ordinances were nailed to the cross, no one was under obligation to observe the dietary laws, the Sabbaths etc.

“having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out that way, nailing it to the cross; … Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a Sabbath day: “

Now he or she that still wants to be ignorant of the truth of the New Testament, Jesus Christ can still do so;

Once again some Jewish  persons are waiting for  a promised return here but they are greatly mistaken, for this return is the promised return to Jesus Christ the Messiah, and it includes the Church, composed of Jews and gentiles now. This promised restoration of the remnant of Israel, and of the gentile has been fulfilled by God in Jesus Christ ..   

(Rev 3:12 KJV)  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

(Rev 21:2 KJV)  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

(Rev 21:10 KJV)  And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

As per the next full supposed re-gathering  of the twelve tribes of Israel note this had occurred in Pentecost, in the book of Acts where all of the tribes of Israel were represented, present thus.  (Acts 2:2 KJV)  And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

(Acts 2:36 KJV)  Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

(Acts 16:31 KJV)  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

(Acts 16:32 KJV)  And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

(Acts 20:20 KJV)  And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have showed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house,

But most Jews who tend to reject Jesus Christ as their Messiah, and evangelicals too, tend not to agree with this and they are waiting for rather a supposedly soley Jewish messiah, not a Jewish -gentile messiah of Jesus Christ, so next they will be deceived and disappointed by the false counterfeit messiah, the anti Christ,  (Rev 13:18 KJV)  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

and the same anti Christ who falsely will restore the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem, restore the sacrifices in the temple,

(Rev 14:9 KJV)  And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

(Rev 14:10 KJV)  The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

(Rev 14:11 KJV)  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
There are numerous passages in the NT where OT prophecies concerning Israel’s regathering and restoration are applied to the Church, indicating that the latter is the “true Israel” comprised of both believing Jews and believing Gentiles in whom the promises will be fulfilled. Or, to put it in other terms, the Church does not replace Israel but takes up and perpetuates in itself the believing remnant within the nation as a whole.

The “true Israel” of God, which in the OT was comprised of all ethnic Jews who were circumcised in heart, finds its NT expression in the Church, now comprised of all believing ethnic Jews and all believing ethnic Gentiles. Or, to use Paul’s imagery from Romans 11, the one Olive Tree = True Israel = the Church in which are both natural (Jewish) branches and unnatural (Gentile) branches, but in all cases “believing branches 

Jesus taught that his resurrection was the raising of the True Temple of Israel. He has replaced the priesthood, sacrifices, and sanctuary of Israel by fulfilling them in his own glorious priestly ministry and by offering, once and for all, his sacrifice for the world, that is, for both Jew and Gentile. Believers from all nations are now being built up through him into this Third Temple, the church that Jesus promised to build.

Simon Peter spoke of the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus in conjunction with the final judgment and the punishment of sinners. Instructively, this same Simon Peter, the Apostle to the Circumcision, says nothing about the restoration of the kingdom to Israel in the land of Palestine. Instead, as his readers contemplate the promise of Jesus’ Second Coming, he fixes their hope upon the new heavens and the new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

The entitlement of any one ethnic or religious group to territory in the Middle East called the “Holy Land” cannot be supported by the new testament or Old tesatment Scriptures. In fact, the land promises specific to Israel in the Old Testament were fulfilled under Joshua. The New Testament speaks clearly and prophetically about the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. No New Testament writer foresees a regathering of ethnic Israel in the land, as did the prophets of the Old Testament after the destruction of the first temple in 586 B.C. Moreover, the land promises of the Old Covenant are consistently and deliberately expanded in the New Testament to show the universal dominion of Jesus, who reigns from heaven upon the throne of David, inviting all the nations through the Gospel of Grace to partake of his universal and everlasting dominion.

and why were the Jews dispelled from Israel the second Time? Because also due  their false hope of having a Jewish state separate of Jesus Christ.
  
 God has promised to restore His Jewish people to Israel – Jer 29:14 and this promised has been fulfilled after the Babylonian exile and return now too.

Yet some evangelicals, Zionists falsely believe there are here, were simultaneous prophecies of a latter day restoration of Israel solely, alone… fullfilled in 1948
a. To be fulfilled in the last days, supposedly our modern  times, just before the Lord Jesus Christ finally returns
b. That includes the return of Jews to Palestine and the establishment of  Israel as an independent state in May, 1948, was a fulfillment of  such prophecies.

Yes next the Jewish people again as warned by God, and prophesied by Jesus, predicted too were dispersed worldwide by the Romans and God himself.

At the heart of many of the political commitments in question are two fatally flawed propositions. First, some are teaching that God’s alleged favor toward Israel today is based upon ethnic descent rather than upon the grace of Christ alone, as proclaimed in the Gospel. Second, others are teaching that the Bible’s promises concerning the land are fulfilled in a special political region or “Holy Land,” perpetually set apart by God for one ethnic group alone. As a result of these false claims, large segments of the evangelical community, our fellow citizens, and our government are being misled with regard to the Bible’s teachings regarding the people of God, the land of Israel, and the impartiality of the Gospel.

God, the Creator of all mankind, is merciful and takes no pleasure in punishing sinners. Yet God is also holy and just and must punish sin. Therefore, to satisfy both his justice and his mercy, God has appointed one way of salvation for all, whether Jew or Gentile, in Jesus Christ alone.  Jesus Christ, who is fully God and fully man, came into the world to save sinners. In his death upon the cross, Jesus was the Lamb of God taking away the sin of the world, of Jew and of Gentile alike. The death of Jesus forever fulfilled and eternally ended the sacrifices of the Jewish temple. All who would worship God, whether Jew or Gentile, must now come to him in spirit and truth through Jesus Christ alone. The worship of God is no longer identified with any specific earthly sanctuary. He receives worship only through Jesus Christ, the eternal and heavenly Temple.

To as many as receive and rest upon Christ alone through faith alone, to Jews and Gentiles alike, God gives eternal life in his heavenly inheritance. 

Bad Christian theology regarding the “Holy Land” contributed to the tragic cruelty of the Crusades in the Middle Ages. Lamentably, bad Christian theology is today attributing to secular Israel a divine mandate to conquer and hold Palestine, with the consequence that the Palestinian people are marginalized and regarded as virtual “Canaanites.” This doctrine is both contrary to the teaching of the New Testament and a violation of the Gospel mandate. In addition, this theology puts those Christians who are urging the violent seizure and occupation of Palestinian land in moral jeopardy of their own bloodguiltiness. Are we as Christians not called to pray for and work for peace, warning both parties to this conflict that those who live by the sword will die by the sword? Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ can bring both temporal reconciliation and the hope of an eternal and heavenly inheritance to the Israeli and the Palestinian. Only through Jesus Christ can anyone know peace on earth.

The present secular state of Israel, however, is not an authentic or prophetic realization of the Messianic kingdom of Jesus Christ. Furthermore, a day should not be anticipated in which Christ’s kingdom will manifest Jewish distinctives, whether by its location in “the land,” by its constituency, or by its ceremonial institutions and practices. Instead, this present age will come to a climactic conclusion with the arrival of the final, eternal phase of the kingdom of the Messiah. At that time, all eyes, even of those who pierced him, will see the King in his glory. Every knee will bow, and every tongue will declare that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The kingdoms of this world will become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign forever and ever. http://www.bible-researcher.com/openletter.html 

I must point our that the same false dispensationalists, Zionists who reject these truths in the Bible are the same persons who today tend to deny the Holy Spirit, they reject that God’s gifted men and Holy spirit gifts exist today because they are not spirit filled, led by the Holy Spirit in reality.  

http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/end/end_07.htm

“You are not to go to the left or to the right unless you hear a voice ( of the Holy Sprit) saying this is the way walk there in”.. Many of us have not learned as to how to hear this voice .

“Zionism is a Modern  international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra’el, “the Land of Israel”), and continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel.[1] Although its origins are earlier, the movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century.   Zionism is based in part upon religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE),[4][5]  Zionism can be distinguished from Territorialism, a Jewish nationalist movement calling for a Jewish homeland not necessarily in Palestine. During the early history of Zionism, a number of proposals were made for settling Jews outside of Europe, but ultimately all of these were rejected or failed. The debate over these proposals helped to define the nature and focus of the Zionist movement. Since the first century CE most Jews have lived in exile, although there has been a constant presence of Jews in the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel). According to Judaism, Eretz Israel, or Zion, is a land promised to the Jews by God according to the Bible. Following the 2nd century Bar Kokhba revolt, Jews were expelled from Palestine to form the Jewish diaspora. In the nineteenth century a current in Judaism supporting a return grew in popularity. Even before 1897, which is generally seen as the year in which practical Zionism started, Jews immigrated to Palestine, the pre-Zionist Aliyah.[10] Jewish immigration to Palestine started in earnest in 1882. The so-called First Aliyah saw the arrival of about 30,000 Jews over twenty years. Most immigrants came from Russia, where anti-semitism was rampant. They founded a number of agricultural settlements with financial support from Jewish philanthropists in Western Europe. The Second Aliyah started in 1904. Further Aliyahs followed between the two World Wars, fueled in the 1930s by Nazi persecution.  In the 1890s Theodor Herzl infused Zionism with a new and practical urgency. He brought the World Zionist Organization into being and, together with Nathan Birnbaum, planned its First Congress at Basel in 1897.[13] This current in Zionism is known as political Zionism because it aimed at reaching a political agreement with the Power ruling Palestine. Up to 1917 this was the Ottoman Empire, and then until 1948 it was Britain on behalf of the League of Nations. The WZO also supported small scale settlement in Palestine.  Lobbying by Chaim Weizmann (cultural Zionists) and others culminated in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 by the British government. This declaration endorsed the creation of a Jewish Homeland in Palestine. In 1922, the League of nations endorsed the declaration in the Mandate it gave to Britain:  Palestinian Arabs resisted Zionist migration. There were riots in 1920, 1921 and 1929, sometimes accompanied by massacres of Jews. Britain supported Jewish immigration in principle, but in reaction to Arab violence imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration. The subsequent growth in Jewish migration led to the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine which in turn led the British to establish the Peel Commission to investigate the situation. The commission (which did not examine the situation of Jews in Europe) called for a two-state solution and compulsory transfer of populations. This solution was rejected by the British and instead the White Paper of 1939 proposed an end to Jewish immigration by 1944, with a further 75,000 to be admitted by then. In principle, the British stuck to this policy until the end of the Mandate. After WWII and the Holocaust, support for Zionism increased, especially among Jewish Holocaust survivors. The British were attacked in Palestine by Zionist groups because of their restrictions on Jewish immigration, the best known attack being the 1946 King David Hotel bombing. Unable to resolve the conflict, the British referred the issue to the newly created United Nations.  In 1947, the UNSCOP recommended the partition of western Palestine into a Jewish state, an Arab state and a UN-controlled territory (Corpus separatum) around Jerusalem.[15] This partition plan was adopted on November 29th, 1947 with UN GA Resolution 181, 33 votes in favor, 13 against, and 10 abstentions. The vote itself, which required a two-third majority, was a very dramatic affair and led to celebrations in the streets of Jewish cities.[16]  The Arab states rejected the UN decision, demanding a single state with an Arab majority. violence immediately exploded in Palestine between Jews and Arabs. On 14 May 1948, at the end of the British mandate, the Jewish Agency, led by Ben-Gurion declared the creation of the State of Israel and the same day, the armies of four[17] Arab countries invaded Israel. During the following eight months, Israel forces defended the Jewish partition and conquered portions of the Arab partition, enlarging its portion to 78 percent of mandatory Palestine. The conflict led to an exodus of about 711,000 Arab Palestinians [18], of whom about 46.000 were internally displaced persons in Israel. The war ended with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, which included new cease-fire lines, the so-called Green line.  After the war the Arabs continued to reject Israel’s right to exist and demanded that it retreat to the 1947 partition lines. They sustained this demand until 1967 when the rest of western Palestine was conquered by Israel during the Six-Day War, after which Arab states demanded that Israel retreat to the 1949 cease fire line, the only “borders” currently recognized by the international community. These borders are commonly referred as the “pre-1967 borders” or the “green line”. The border with Egypt was legalized in the 1979 Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty, and the border with Jordan in the 1994 Israel-Jordan Treaty of Peace. After the creation of the State of Israel the WZO continued to exist as an organisation dedicated to assisting and encouraging Jews to migrate to Israel, as well as providing political support for Israel.  In addition to Jewish Zionism, there was always a small number of Christian Zionists that existed from the early days of the Zionist movement.”   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism 

“Over 400 years of independence under the Davidic dynasty ended in 586 BCE when the country was conquered by the Babylonians, who destroyed the Temple and exiled most of the people. However, before the century was over the Jews returned, rebuilt the Temple and restored Jewish life in the Land. For the next centuries, they knew varying degrees of self-rule under Persian (538-333 BCE) and Hellenistic (322-142 BCE) overlordship, independence under the Hasmonean dynasty (142-63 BCE) and then increasingly oppressive domination by the Romans beginning in 63 BCE. When the Jews were prevented from carrying out their traditional religious way of life, they launched a series of uprisings, which climaxed in the revolt of 66 CE.   After four years of fighting, Rome put down the Jewish Revolt and burned the Temple to the ground. Many thousands of Jews were killed, sold into slavery and dispersed to countries near and far. The only remnant of the entire Temple compound was the Western Wall, which became a place of pilgrimage and worship for Jews, and remains so to the present time.  In 132 CE, another Jewish revolt, which restored Jewish sovereignty for three years, was cruelly suppressed, claiming thousands of lives. To stamp out the Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, the Romans renamed the country Palaestina.  The small Jewish community which remained in the Land gradually recovered. Institutional and communal life was reconstructed to meet the new situation without the unifying framework of the state and the Temple. Priests were replaced by rabbis, and in the absence of a central place of worship, the synagogue became the nucleus of each of the scattered communities. Between 636 and 1096, the Jewish community in the Land diminished considerable and lost some of its organizational and religious cohesiveness, ” http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/State/ZIONISM-+Background.htm
  

Even all Jews and Zionists would do well to learn from the Biblical account of even the Apostle Judas.” When morning came, he called HIS DISCIPLES to him and chose twelve of them whom he also designated apostles: Simon (whom he named Peter), his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called the Zealot, Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor” (Lk. 6:13-16). Once he was one of the Apostles but next you can tell what he realy was by what he did, by his own fruits, theft and betrayals included.. ” Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.” Psa 41:9 All four gospels identify Judas as the betrayer. The same Judas Iscariot also had left everything to follow the Lord. In modern terminology, he had ‘accepted’ Jesus as Lord Judas is a prime example of a ONCE CHOSEN believer who fell into absolute apostasy. For three years he followed the Lord with the other disciples BUT HE NEXT BECAME A TRAITOR, turning against Jesus Christ the Messiah, Judas quietly became a vile, tool of Satan WITH his heart gradually hardened became the false, treacherous man who had even sold the Savior even for a fistful of coins. He served as crooked treasurer for Jesus and the Apostles, which meant he carried the money bag. and abused it. John tells us that he was also dishonest and that he often stole money out of the bag whenever he wanted it. he objected so strongly to Mary (sister of Martha and Lazarus) pouring expensive perfume (nard) on Jesus’ feet. He said they should have sold the nard and used the money to help the poor. But what he really wanted was more money in the treasury so he could steal it. (John. 12:1-6); Judas clearly unlike the other apostles did not give up his Jewish heritage but falsely tried to hang on to it.; He made the mistake that falsely looked towards a revived Jewish empire on earth. Judas next committed suicide even and he was next replaced as an Apostle of Jesus Christ.

Too many fundamentals, professing Christians now falsely do that the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was prophesied in Scripture while there is no direct support of this in the New Testament Bible even still. Zionism, on the other hand, “is a secularist, largely atheistic ideology” that emerged in the late 19th century. God still does not require the human input to fulfill his own prophecies. Now too many Christian Zionists, extremists do falsely do now believe that in order to fulfill all of the Biblical prophecy, Israel must next conquer most of the Middle East. And anyone watched the mostly self centered, get richer TV evangelists such as a Pat Robertson or John Hagee and their distorted sermons scenarios involving the future “Rapture,” Jesus Christ and also Israel, should also quickly firstly now realize that these false prophets are not only fleecing, scaring their flock to give more money but falsely are into worshipping the false idol of Israel. .John Hagee pays himself over a million dollars a year in TAX FREE money while having several palaces to live in, like the $2.1 million 7,969-acre ranch outside Brackettville, Texas , with five lodges, including a “main lodge” and a gun locker.;Once considered a small marginal doctrine among evangelicals, the false dispensationalist theology of Christian Zionism has greatly escalated, ironically falsely with the help of jess, Messianic Jews, Judaizers and many others too. The reality still is that the parable of the vineyard (Matt 21:33-43) clearly shows that the Christian Church totally now rather succumbs all of the past promises made to Israel. Be careful about accepting anyone’s word about Christian Zionism do first read the Bible, New Testament for yourself and know the truth rather.

The “Jesus was Born Under the Law” and so should we all now live under the law? Never!!!

Christ did not simply do away with the law, he ended or fulfilled it. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill” (Matt. 5: 17). The law being fulfilled we as true Christians by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ now live under Christ’s new laws. His new Covenant, New Testament, the old one being done away now, no longer applicable. Jesus’ apostles are “able ministers of the new testament” (2 Cor. 3: 6). The Law of Moses could not impart life (2 Cor. 3: 7-18). The law was only a “schoolmaster to bring us (Jew, dm) unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith” (Gal. 3: 24). “But after that faith is come,” Paul continued, “we are no longer under a schoolmaster” (vs. 25). Paul warned regarding any who would attempt justification by the Law of Moses. Hear him: “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace” (Gal. 5: 4). One cannot be saved by a system of meritorious works that seek to earn salvation and by grace at the same time (Rom. 11: 6). John said, “For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ” (Jn. 1: 17). Christ was the end of the law in that he fulfilled it. Jesus became the ultimate and perpetual sacrifice for the sins of the world (Heb. 7-9). Jesus has all authority in heaven and earth and we are to hear him (Matt. 28: 18; 17: 5). Jesus is to be heard over Moses and Elias (law and prophets, Matt. 17: 4, 5). “For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses…And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant…But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we…,” argued the writer of Hebrews (Heb. 3: 3, 5, 6). http://www.bibletruths.net/Archives/BTAR127.htm

First, while Jesus was born under the law and lived perfectly under the law, the focus of his teaching and the goal of His life was the establishment of His new covenant, KINGDOM. Everything Jesus said about the kingdom is of application to His own new kingdom whenever it arrived. Jesus said we are thus to obey his laws and not the law of Moses..

Heb 7:19: “for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.”

The old covenant is obsolete, and the new covenant has been established.

Christians are not obligated to keep “the law of Moses.”

When Paul discussed “the law,” he was often concerned with the entire law of Moses, and he wrote that Christians were not under the authority of that law. Our obligation to obey God is defined by a different law, a spiritual law, which in some cases overlaps Old Testament laws but in other cases supersedes them.
there was a problem with the first covenant — the people were not faithful and were not able to obey (verses 7-9). God therefore promised a new covenant, and “by calling this covenant `new,’ he has made the first one obsolete” (verse 13). The old covenant is obsolete — ended. The agreement and its terms of relationship no longer have authority. Now we cannot assume that any part of the contract is valid when the entire contract has been declared obsolete. The old covenant was glorious, but it was “fading away,” replaced by a covenant much more glorious.

The old covenant was built around the core of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 34:28).

The old covenant is obsolete (Hebrews 8:13).

The new covenant has been established (Hebrews 8:6).

In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin you had no pleasure. Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come– in the volume of the book it is written of Me– to do Your will, O God.’ ” Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. [Hebrews 10:6-9]

Note again the New Testament, Colossians 2:14, 16, since the ordinances were nailed to the cross, no one was under obligation to observe the dietary laws, the Sabbaths etc.

“having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out that way, nailing it to the cross; … Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a Sabbath day: “

Now he or she that still wants to be ignorant of the truth of the New Testament, Jesus Christ can still do so;

God leads us in many ways, through his word, through people, but God will confirm his will for us still too. I have had often had to learn spiritual truths the hard way, by trying to do my own thing and failing at it, and Jesus reminding me that I could do nothing without him. Now I pray before I do anything and I await his instructions, if God does not lead me, or tells me not to do something, I tend not to do it.
 I had bought a pair summer shorts recently and I wanted to get matching T-shirt to it too.. I had tried a few stores but was unable to get the matching color that I had wanted. So I prayed about it and God told me not to look for it. I have learned he will deal with it his way and in his time. So I went along with my normal agendas. I had to go the drug store to get my medicine renewed so I did so. I was surprised to find the matching T-shirt, in the color I had wanted on sale at half price too in the drug store. After I pray I have come to learn to expect God will answer the prayer, I do not have to do it in my own strength.
 
It also now seems that unresolved problems tend to make us seek God. How to draw closer to God. You have wanted God to speak to you for a long time. You have wanted to talk to God and get answers back. This  is an opportunity for you to have a dialogue with God. God too wants to communicate with you. You might have been in church, a crusade, in your room, or outside under the stars. You felt God’s call, but you didn’t know exactly what God wanted you to do. You knew you were going to do something special, but you didn’t know what it was. Now you can also find out God’s plan for you, and others too and the literature is all free too.   It teaches you how to hear God’s voice.  God will teach you many things you need to know.  Valid spiritual tools to help you make conscious contact with God: Praise, Prayer, Humbleness, Obedience, the Bible. Get yourself ready where God speaks to you

God is these days speaking to us not just through the words in the Bible. Many of us have at times sensed that something is wrong in the church  and  because of the continual deficiencies in our knowledge of scripture, deficiencies in our walk with God, deficiencies in our being able to hear the voice of God, and the fear of man we have suppressed or put aside these things, yet in our hearts these nudges of the Holy Spirit keep coming back time and again. So we have at times felt things, we have at times sensed things, but we have not necessarily known that now God has been speaking and guiding us. When we   have sought help from a preacher or teacher we too often next have in time realized in some measure that what they tend speak not from a personal knowledge of God, from the leading of God  but instead speak from the stale corn of other people books, tapes, and notes or their own views. And yet with these sweeping -general explanations these things we have known never really go away — for the Holy Spirit still speaks to men and what we  have already seen and heard of Him we do still believe  God still speaks to men, and confers upon those that love Him and are obedient His tokens of His affection — true gifts and true ministry. Next that  Word becoming flesh (in us), a personal reality in many of our life experience, that can be “seen” and “handled” by those some of those called out persons that are around us.

(Zec 4:6 KJV)  Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word
of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my
spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
Isa 30:21  And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is
the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the
left. 22  Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and
the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a
menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give
the rain of thy seed, that thou shalt sow the ground withal; and bread of the
increase of the earth, and it shall be fat and plenteous: in that day shall thy
cattle feed in large pastures.
(John 14:23 KJV)  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he
will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and
make our abode with him.
Complete and total reliance on the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Christ, and leading,   the gifts of the holy spirit is what generally seperates the the Pentecostal Christians from the rest of Christendom
(Rom 8:9 KJV)  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be
that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of
Christ, he is none of his.
(1 Cor 2:16 KJV)  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may
instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
John 16:8  And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of
righteousness, and of judgment: 9  Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10
Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11  Of
judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12  I have yet many things
to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of
truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of
himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you
things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall
show it unto you. 15  All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said
I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.
John 15:1  I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2  Every
branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that
beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3  Now ye are
clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4  Abide in me, and I in
you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no
more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He
that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for
without me ye can do nothing.  6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as
a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and
they are burned. 7  If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask
what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8  Herein is my Father glorified,
that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
The Pentecostal movement within Protestant Christianity places
continual emphasis on the individual, personal need of the Baptism, and the
gifts of the Holy Spirit, as shown in the New Testament Biblical account
initially on the Day of Pentecost. Pentecostal Christians do differ
significantly from other Christian groups, denominations because they do define
specifically a real Christian is a person who has been baptized with the Holy
spirit as evidenced by their speaking, praying in tongues, glossolalia,,
interpretation of tongues, which is prophecy, and the persons who thus now also
has access to the miraculous, spiritual gifts of the Holy spirit as a result
too.There is no denying the fact that Pentecostal Christians believe glossolalia
is a spiritual gift from God, proof of the “infilling” of the Holy Spirit. Some
denominations do not even allow people to preach or become members until they
demonstrate the ability to speak in tongues. It’s proof that they have been both
“saved” and “sanctified.” Pentecostals in generally rejected the belief of many
fundamentalists that God had ceased to reveal himself directly to man.
Pentecostal do belive that God speaks personally, individually to true Believers
of Jesus Christ, outside of the Bible now as well. The charismatic movement in
Roman Catholic and in the mainstream Protestant denominations represents the
same spirit. Speaking in tongues is not universal among Pentecostal Christians
still because many there too have still not received the Baptism of the Holy
Spirit, they are merely Pentecostal church adherents, observers. The origins of
Pentecostals originates from the early Christian days, as indicated in the Book
of acts, new testament and they have continued historically as well, including
during the 19th-century Holiness movement and also the 1906 revival meetings at
the Azusa Street Mission in Los Angeles, California..

Do see

http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/even-heaven-awaits-jewish-return-to-god-jesus-christ-and-rather-not-to-the-promised-earthly-land/

http://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/jews-israel-arabs-and-jesus-christ-the-bible/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/tonce-gods-chosen-people/

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/the-rtrue-israel-of-god-today/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2012/08/04/the-dangers-of-the-hebrew-roots-messianic-movement/

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/messianic-jews-judaizers-seventh-day-adventist/

http://pbulow.tripod.com/wait.html

and http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Meditating%20on%20the%20Lord.htm
http://www.alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/articles.htm

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/as-to-what-is-a-christian/