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Why do some  people still do want to insist that God is dead today, he does not intervene directly into this world, he does not speak to us, he does not heal, he does no miracles, he does not supply any of our personal needs, or look after our own good welfare? When clearly the Bible today still says otherwise!
 
(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
(Acts 10:39 KJV)  And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
 
(Acts 10:40 KJV)  Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;
 
(Acts 10:41 KJV)  Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
 
(Acts 10:42 KJV)  And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
 
(Acts 10:43 KJV)  To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
 
By defining God as non existant some they falsely try to justify their living their own lives, their own right of doing their own thing, but they are still big sinners, rebels against God.
 
(Heb 9:27 KJV)  And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
 
(1 Sam 15:23 KJV)  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
 
 Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the Name of the Lord shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance… (WIKIPEDIA) SOZO – the Greek word which means to heal, cure, to make well; to rescue from danger, to save; to cause something to change to an earlier, correct or appropriate state; to renew. The Greek word SOZO was translated in the New Testament as the English word Saved. Salvation, known as the Greek word “Soteria”, is merely the noun form. SOZO simply defined is the verb which means rescued, pulled from danger, or lifted above trouble.  http://faithcenter.wordpress.com/
 
 >>The doctrine of salvation the greek word Sozo is described in Scripture in three different tenses: past, present and future. We have been saved; we are being saved, and we will be saved.
Sozo means saved, healed, delivered as well .. but  some people cannot get past the saved part even..
 
It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy sprit filled, those people walking in the flesh that they do bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anointing still too, we all can see these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”
 
The anointing is sacred, the anointing is the Holy Spirit, and all believers in Christ have the anointing of the Holy Spirit. We must be careful what we say about our brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
(Matthew 12:31 NKJV) “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
 
(1 Chronicles 16:22-24 NKJV) Saying, “Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm.” {23} Sing to the LORD, all the earth; Proclaim the good news of His salvation from day to day. {24} Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.”

“Fundamentalists worship every word and letter in the Bible. Actually, they worship their own private interpretation of scripture (compare 2 Peter 1:20). This is the same error that the Pharisees fell into. They ended up worshiping Torah more than God, and, even more than Torah, they worshiped their own interpretations (and the interpretations of the elders) of Torah. (They still do so today, only now they have codified those traditions into the Talmud.) Likewise, so do Fundamentalists worship their own interpretation of Scripture. In both cases, “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” (Romans 1:25).

Similarly, Liberals worship their own reasonings, the products of their own minds, their own denial of Scripture. In doing so, like the Fundamentalists and the Pharisees, they worship their own interpretations, the products of their own minds, therefore they, too, worship the creature instead of the Creator.

One problem that both Fundamentalists and Liberals have in common is that they both would rather have someone else spoon feed them rather than learn for themselves. Liberals are eager to hear what Tillich, Bultmann, Kierkegaard or even their own pastor than to dig into the truth of the faith for themselves. Likewise, Fundamentalists would rather hear what C. I. Schofield, Hal Lindsey, Walter Martin or even their own pastor than to dig into the truth of the faith for themselves. Both sides are equally intellectually lazy. Both sides are equally wrong.

Jesus said, “Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks” (John 4:23). It is time for both Fundamentalists and Liberals to stop worshipping the products of their own mind and “worship the Father in spirit and truth,” only this will please the Father above.

Fundamentalists need to learn the truth of 2 Corinthians 3:6, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” They need to seek God in SPIRIT and in Truth. Liberals need to learn the truth of John 4:23 (quoted above) and ofJohn 6:63, “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit[1] and they are life.” They need to seek God in Spirit and in TRUTH.”  http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/12941.htm

Jesus himself walked in the  power of the Holy Spirit and he also manifested the gifts of the Holy Spirit by the same Holy Spirit anointing we can now have as well
 
(Luke 4:1 KJV)  And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan,
 
(Luke 4:14 KJV)  And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

(Mat 9:6 KJV)  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.
 
I had once asked my Baptist Pastor once if there was Power to live a Christian life.. he waited for a minute while he thought about it and replied no! shortly after that he was removed from the church and he was the founding pastor as well. 
 
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . . As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in him.  1 John 2:20, 27
 
“The Greek word for anointing is chrisma, from which we have the word chrism. Chrisma appears several times in 1 John 2:20 and 27. It comes from the root word, chriô, which means to rub something or someone lightly with a substance like oil or lotion. The word christos means a person so anointed and the word chrisma refers to that by which a person is anointed. John uses chrisma in these two verses, not speaking of the object being anointed but of the instrument of anointing. Additionally, we find a word christianos in Acts 11:26, which means “one belonging to the Anointed One,” just as Herodianos would mean “one who belongs to Herod.””

(Acts 1:8 KJV)  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
 
(Acts 3:12 KJV)  And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
 
(Acts 4:7 KJV)  And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?
 
(Acts 4:33 KJV)  And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
 
(Acts 6:8 KJV)  And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
 
(Acts 10:38 KJV)  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 
(Acts 26:18 KJV)  To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
 
Most people have never even firstly had studied, read what the Bible actually says firstly, not even many preachers.
 
Beyond the show of a doubt the devil himself firstly really hates any references to the Holy Spirit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too…
 
The baptism of the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , Tongues, Prophets, Apostles, Miracle workers, tithing now too, the promised land, the prosperity gospel have become unarguably the most overused, overworked, misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the news media, in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, in the fundamental religious circles all even because many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.

“As the ultimate Prophet, King and Priest, Jesus Christ was anointed when he began his earthly ministry. This anointing was predicted by Isaiah in Isaiah 61:1 when he said that the Spirit of the Lord would come upon the Messiah. In God’s time, when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, we are told the Holy Spirit came upon him when he came up out of the water. In other words, he was anointed by the Holy Spirit, and that without measure. When Jesus quoted Isaiah 61:1,2 in the synagogue of Nazareth, saying, “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,” he was announcing to the people that he was the Messiah prophesied by Isaiah long ago and that the anointing of the Holy Spirit was now resting upon him.

Not only is Jesus Christ anointed, but the Bible tells us that every believer in Jesus Christ is also anointed. We are kings, priests, and prophets under the Priest, Prophet and King, the Lord Jesus Christ. We find references to this in many places. John the Baptist said there was another person coming after him, mightier than himself, who would baptize people in the Holy Spirit and fire. In Acts 1:5 the Lord Jesus Christ himself speaks of this, saying, “For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.” This was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost, as we read in Acts 2:4: “All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.” Thus, when John writes in 1 John 2:20, “But you have a chrisma, an anointing,” he was referring to the coming of the Holy Spirit upon every believer.

http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/go/gvcc/sermon_trans/2001/Holy_Anointing.html

The anointing that the devil and his false followers wrongfully do hate and oppose, lie about is this..

(Mark 16:17 KJV) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

The Lord wants to infuse you with an anointing, by the Holy Spirit, which will propel you through every line of Satan’s defense. This is how you can overcome every situation as you receive “power from on high!” Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself was full of this power as He withstood the onslaught of the devil while fasting in the wilderness. The Bible records that John the Baptist baptized Jesus, the Lord of Glory, in the river Jordan prior to Him praying and fasting 40 days and 40 nights. At the end of this fast Satan came to Him and tempted Him in His spirit, soul and body to sin against God. But Jesus resisted Satan’s offense with the statement, “It is written!” After this, Luke 4: 14 states, And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. If Jesus, walking as a man, needed the power of the Holy Spirit to stand against the assault of the devil, I ask you, “How much more do we need the power of the Holy Spirit?” There’s a Holy Spirit revival coming, and it’s can also be coming even through your words, through your hands and through your life!

Would you like to have God’s Holy Ghost Power in your life?

If so please pray this prayer humbly. “Dear Heavenly Father. As per your promises in your word, the Bible do next baptize me with your Holy sprit, power. I accept the promise of Acts 2: 38 & 39 and the anointing power of the Holy Ghost. I ask to have the power that Apostles had received even in my life. I also do want the power to overcome Satan everyday, in all areas of life! Jesus you are my lord so by your Holy Spirit, please fill me now and take full control of my life, my body and even my tongue. Let my tongue now also give praises to God the Father and His Holy Son, Jesus in a Heavenly language. I put myself, my all under your full control. Amen!”

John 10:37-38 ” If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. “

(2 John 1:5 KJV) And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.

(Luke 4:18 KJV) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

(Titus 3:5 KJV)  Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;”

http://comeholyspirit.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/the-holy-spirits-anointing/

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Posted by thenonconformer on December 14, 2008

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/why-do-someone-people/

Not wanted

  
Definitely money hungry, despises the poor persons, a JUNGLE FIGHTER, a BULLY, a control freak, negative behavior, irrational, Unrepentant , dictatorial, INDULGING IN ALCOHOL..   Now don’t tell me you have not seen  alcoholics with that type of SIMILAR, common negative behaviors as well?
 
Why Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper keeps his religion secret ?”,  because The Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s negative  behavior is undeniable
 
The Bible says we are first to talk to the elder directly  and personally to ask him to repent.
If he refuses..
We next are to have 2 witnesses that we had again asked him to repent.
then if he does not repent we merely fully ask to have him removed from the assembly, till he admits his sins and repents..
 
next God also  will drastically deal with him too
 
and it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God
that is the Biblical way…
Now I have already removed a lot of unrepentant elders.. they mostly had next really regretted eventually they had not initially repented too
I use the same approach in dealing with all others too, bad politicians included..

McThoughts – “Script writers probably couldn’t create a more improbable (embarrassing?) plot than the one being played out in Ottawa of late about Stephen Harper”.. .
 
The ironic thing is that Evangelical Stephen Harper should have already read thus historical Biblical script.. and should have been pre-warned, not  rather acted foolishly  instead, plus Harper he made an false idol of the Conservative Party too and was pulled down for this too..
 
King Rehoboam Acts Foolishly  1 Kings 12 New American Standard Bible 

1 Then Rehoboam went to Shechem, for all Israel had come to Shechem to make him king. 2 Now when Jeroboam the son of Nebat heard of it, he was living in Egypt (for he was yet in Egypt, where he had fled from the presence of King Solomon). 3 Then they sent and called him, and Jeroboam and all the assembly of Israel came and spoke to Rehoboam, saying, 4 “Your father made our yoke hard; now therefore lighten the hard service of your father and his heavy yoke which he put on us, and we will serve you.” 5 Then he said to them, “Depart for three days, then return to me.” So the people departed.
6 King Rehoboam consulted with the elders who had served his father Solomon while he was still alive, saying, “How do you counsel me to answer this people?” 7 Then they spoke to him, saying, “If you will be a servant to this people today, and will serve them and grant them their petition, and speak good words to them, then they will be your servants forever.”
8 But he forsook the counsel of the elders which they had given him, and consulted with the young men who grew up with him and served him. 9 So he said to them, “What counsel do you give that we may answer this people who have spoken to me, saying, ‘Lighten the yoke which your father put on us’?” 10 The young men who grew up with him spoke to him, saying, “Thus you shall say to this people who spoke to you, saying, ‘Your father made our yoke heavy, now you make it lighter for us!’ But you shall speak to them, ‘My little finger is thicker than my father’s loins! 11 ‘Whereas my father loaded you with a heavy yoke, I will add to your yoke; my father disciplined you with whips, but I will discipline you with scorpions.’” 12 Then Jeroboam and all the people came to Rehoboam on the third day as the king had directed, saying, “Return to me on the third day.” 13 The king answered the people harshly, for he forsook the advice of the elders which they had given him, 14 and he spoke to them according to the advice of the young men, saying, “My father made your yoke heavy, but I will add to your yoke; my father disciplined you with whips, but I will discipline you with scorpions.” 15 So the king did not listen to the people; for it was a turn of events from the LORD, that He might establish His word, which the LORD spoke through Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat.
The Kingdom Divided; Jeroboam Rules Israel
16 When all Israel saw that the king did not listen to them, the people answered the king, saying,
“What portion do we have in David?
We have no inheritance in the son of Jesse;
To your tents, O Israel!
Now look after your own house, David!”

So Israel departed to their tents. 17 But as for the sons of Israel who lived in the cities of Judah, Rehoboam reigned over them. 18 Then King Rehoboam sent Adoram, who was over the forced labor, and all Israel stoned him to death. And King Rehoboam made haste to mount his chariot to flee to Jerusalem.
19 So Israel has been in rebellion against the house of David to this day.
20 It came about when all Israel heard that Jeroboam had returned, that they sent and called him to the assembly and made him king over all Israel. None but the tribe of Judah followed the house of David.  21 Now when Rehoboam had come to Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah and the tribe of Benjamin, 180,000 chosen men who were warriors, to fight against the house of Israel to restore the kingdom to Rehoboam the son of Solomon. 22 But the word of God came to Shemaiah the man of God, saying, 23 “Speak to Rehoboam the son of Solomon, king of Judah, and to all the house of Judah and Benjamin and to the rest of the people, saying, 24 ‘Thus says the LORD, “You must not go up and fight against your relatives the sons of Israel; return every man to his house, for this thing has come from Me.”’” So they listened to the word of the LORD, and returned and went their way according to the word of the LORD.

Jeroboam’s Idolatry
25 Then Jeroboam built Shechem in the hill country of Ephraim, and lived there. And he went out from there and built Penuel. 26 Jeroboam said in his heart, “Now the kingdom will return to the house of David. 27 “If this people go up to offer sacrifices in the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, then the heart of this people will return to their lord, even to Rehoboam king of Judah; and they will kill me and return to Rehoboam king of Judah.” 28 So the king consulted, and made two golden calves, and he said to them, “It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem; behold your gods, O Israel, that brought you up from the land of Egypt.” 29 He set one in Bethel, and the other he put in Dan. 30 Now this thing became a sin, for the people went to worship before the one as far as Dan. 31 And he made houses on high places, and made priests from among all the people who were not of the sons of Levi. 32 Jeroboam instituted a feast in the eighth month on the fifteenth day of the month, like the feast which is in Judah, and he went up to the altar; thus he did in Bethel, sacrificing to the calves which he had made. And he stationed in Bethel the priests of the high places which he had made. 33 Then he went up to the altar which he had made in Bethel on the fifteenth day in the eighth month, even in the month which he had devised in his own heart; and he instituted a feast for the sons of Israel and went up to the altar to burn incense.
 
 Economic crisis is no time for political games  What is wrong with Stephen Harper? Days after talking about the need to put partisanship aside to deal with the economic crisis, the prime minister unleashes an undemocratic — even thuggish — attack on the opposition parties. His actions come at the expense of Canadians, introducing more uncertainty, including the threat of an election, at the most damaging time. And it is oddly self-destructive. At a point when many moderate voters were prepared to give the Conservatives a chance to demonstrate their ability to govern in the interests of all Canadians, Harper acted as a partisan bully, reinforcing concerns about his judgment. The classic way for a government to stimulate a flagging economy is to pump money into infrastructure. Road-building and government-funded construction can create jobs through one-time projects that increase spending on local materials and provide the country with something it actually needs, without creating a long-term spending problem. That’s the way Ottawa should go, economists say. In its Throne Speech a few weeks ago, the government promised infrastructure spending to pump money into the economy. It would appear that Minister Flaherty has forgotten that promise.  What planet do Canada’s Minister of Finance Jim Flaherty and Prime Minister Harper live on?
 
I had already written immediately after the last federal lection too that “And all persons are merely dreaming that the new Parliament will next usher in an era of co-operation between both the governing party and its opponents as long as Stephen Harper is around. That is not his style for he clearly and wrongfully loves to be a bully, to body check others.  And Harper now will clearly have to endure the successes and failures of minority government again by his own poor contributions to it .” “Just weeks ago Harper spoke of the need for a more nonpartisan approach to governing in the financial crisis. This week’s events prove that was mere lip service. Harper is more concerned about crippling political opponents and is willing to do so on the backs of Canadians frightened for their very future. It’s shameful.  ” He clearly  is a demon obsessed with getting more power.
 
 The misplaced values,  lack of decency, lack of morality, lack of street sense ,lack of common sense,  out-of-touch, revengeful Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper has Cleary degenerated in the eyes of many. His   having a government that is sensitive to the needs of Canadians rather than the lusts of big corporations is also a necessity still. 
 
Public confidence of Stephen Harper  and his leadership  has been badly shaken by the events of the past few days. As the Conservatives continue their pattern of negative behavior, setting aside the country’s interests in pursuit of their own, “Mr. Harper has poisoned the well for this Parliament, and has contributed to the political destabilization of Canada during a great economic crisis.” 
 

As Canadians face the most difficult economic times in 80 years this was, is Not a time to play politics. It was, is Bad time to play political games  So the  Chess-loving PM was  body checked by opponents. Opposition parties threaten to bring down minority government altogether or replace it.   

 Prime Minister Stephen Harper called an election to secure a majority, and failed to get one. Continues with his one step forward two step backyards leadership approach too. Mr. Harper now and all of us should reflect on where his cynical, bullying, combative, unChristlike approach has gotten him, the Conservative government’s apparent death wish , and how it has further destabilized our country during uncertain times. ”   Stephen Harper has to wear this political mess himself now too. He had thought he had set a deadly trap for his opponents but he himself undeniably fell into it now. That is what a Bully, ego manic deserves. Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s clearly SELF CENTERED, SELFISH, crude political brinksmanship has taken an now finally admitted Canadian economic crisis and made it into a political crisis. 

The new Conservative party was elected cause they said they were going to be better than the other political parties, more honest, decent, etc, and in this regard they became the biggest liars themselves,  they next became the bullies, thugs, oppressors, promise breakers and much more, showing to us all that they were really wolves in sheep clothing,  their clearly apparent bad acts do  not deny who they really are still too… bad people.

No one in his right mind  can ever think, believe thse are the acts of a genuine professing Christian , more likely  acts typical of the Christian Missionary Alliance church, but not those of Jesus Christ. Jesus would have shown consideration for the poor people firstly, humbly too,  now too and not be self centered, boastful, proud like the Conservatives.
 
You cannot hide for long what you really are, Stephen Harper and his thugs included..

Merely let is think back to the final days of the election campaign, when Prime Minister Stephen Harper declared that the government had already done what was needed, that Canada was better off than the United States and that deficit financing was out of the question. And after the lection the same government   uses words such as “recession,” and will run a deficit. Mr. Harper even warns about remembering the lessons of the Great Depression. How the  same liar sings a different tune before and after the election, but that has been so common of him. And  much more…

Quebeckers support a coalition with Bloc ministers  Globe and Mail, Canada –   76 per cent of Quebeckers support a coalition if the Conservatives are defeated, while only 9 per cent want another election. 
 
2 TIMES STEPHEN HARPER NOW HAS NOT LEARNED THAT HE CANNOT OBTAIN A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT BY TRYING TO BUY IT, OR BY HAVING RE-ELECTION AND THE THIRD TIME ALSO WILL BE NO DIFFERENT.. ANOTHER ELECTION WILL JUST MORE WASTE OF TAX PAPYER’S MONEY THAT STEPHEN HARPER falsely really does not care about too..
  
“Half of Canadians think Stephen Harper should step down if the Conservatives are defeated in the House of Commons.
But that seemingly bleak number in a new Leger Marketing poll doesn’t tell the entire story.
About 37 per cent of those asked said Harper should stay, and this mirrors the approximate support Canadians gave the Tories and their leader in the Oct. 14 election, says Leger vice-president Dave Scholz.
In other words, support or condemnation of Harper breaks down along party lines, with Tory supporters generally content while those who don’t normally vote for him say he should get his pink slip if the Tories lose power.
In fact, among identified Conservative voters, only 16 per cent feel he should step down in the event of his party’s defeat, the poll shows.
Seventy-six per cent of Tory supporters would prefer Harper to stay, with eight per cent undecided.
The fact that all three coalition leaders were born in Quebec may factor into the West’s disenchantment with Ottawa.
Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe was born and raised in Montreal, while Liberal Leader Stephane Dion was born and raised in Quebec City. NDP Leader Jack Layton, the sole Anglophone of the three, was born and raised in Hudson, Quebec, although he is currently the MP for the riding of Toronto-Danforth.
POLL RESULTS
– An exclusive Sun Media-Leger Marketing poll finds that if the Tories are toppled in a non-confidence vote, 43% would prefer to return to the polls while 40% would opt for a coalition.
Other results:
– In B.C., 54% prefer to go to an election while 29% support a coalition.
– 71% of Albertans oppose coalition, preferring election.
– Those in the east and central Canada are more open to a coalition, especially in Quebec where 58% want it.
– Ontarians are the most deeply divided in the land, with 43% picking an election and 39% preferring a coalition.”
http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/2008/12/04/7624606-sun.html
 
CP MONTREAL – Quebec doesn’t need anti-sovereigntist rhetoric from the federal government while it copes with the global economic crisis, Premier Jean Charest said late Wednesday after hearing Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s televised address to the nation.  Charest’s reaction followed an earlier warning to federal politicians against attacking the Bloc Quebecois and engaging in Quebec bashing as they verbally slug it out in the political clash on Parliament Hill  “We must respect the choice that was made democratically by all citizens and all Quebecers,” Charest said as he left a rally in Ste-Marie. “And there are, economically, things to settle. We should focus on that. It is the No. 1 priority. Quebec does not need political instability and rhetoric that divides people.”  Charest,  appealed for calm late Wednesday afternoon and condemned the attacks against the Bloc.  “I live in a society where people can be federalist or sovereigntist but they respect each other,” Charest said in Quebec City. “The same should be true in the federal Parliament.”  Charest pointed out that 1.4 million Quebec voters had cast ballots for the Bloc in the Oct. 14 federal election and it has the political legitimacy to allow it to sit in Parliament.  Without identifying anyone, Charest said he found it regrettable that the opponents of the coalition had engaged in an argument tainted by “Quebec bashing.”
 
 (Prov 22:1 KJV)  A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold. (Eccl 7:1 KJV)  A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one’s birth.
 

 IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  not just by the past bad cops
 
The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

 
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Likewise

 
(Rom 8:26 KJV)  Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groaning which cannot be uttered.
(Rom 8:27 KJV)  And he that searched the hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
(Rom 8:28 KJV)  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
(Rom 8:29 KJV)  For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
(Rom 8:30 KJV)  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
(Rom 8:31 KJV)  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
(Rom 8:32 KJV)  He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
(Rom 8:33 KJV)  Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifies
(Rom 8:34 KJV)  Who is he that condemns us personally? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
(Rom 8:35 KJV)  Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
(Rom 8:36 KJV)  As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
(Rom 8:37 KJV)  Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
(Rom 8:38 KJV)  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
(Rom 8:39 KJV)  Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
(Rom 9:1 KJV)  I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

 
 
(Luke 8:17 KJV)  For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
 
(John 1:31 KJV)  And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
 
(John 3:21 KJV)  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
 
(John 14:21 KJV)  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
 
(John 14:22 KJV)  Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
 
(Rom 1:19 KJV)  Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them.
 
(Rom 10:20 KJV)  But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
 
(Rom 16:26 KJV)  But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
 
(1 Cor 3:13 KJV)  Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
 
(1 Cor 11:19 KJV)  For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
 
(1 Cor 14:25 KJV)  And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
 
(2 Cor 2:14 KJV)  Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.
 
(2 Cor 4:10 KJV)  Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
 
(2 Cor 4:11 KJV)  For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
 
(2 Cor 5:11 KJV)  Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
 
(Col 1:26 KJV)  Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
 
(1 Tim 3:16 KJV)  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
 
(2 Tim 1:10 KJV)  But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
 
(2 Tim 3:9 KJV)  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
 
(Heb 4:13 KJV)  Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
 
(1 Pet 1:20 KJV)  Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
 
(1 John 2:19 KJV)  They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
 
(1 John 3:10 KJV)  In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
 
(Rev 15:4 KJV)  Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
  
 
(Prov 14:14 KJV)  The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways: 
 
 

 
It is undeniable that even so called professing Christians have tried falsely to separate Jesus Christ, the Holy Sprit from God.. for it also too often now seems they do rather  want to define these individual persons based on their own actual experience, relationship or rather lack of thereof.. some people  really still do not know Jesus Christ personally and also/or do not have His Holy Sprit, anointing in reality.. a term often defined as sanctification, second blessing, the life of the Spirit,  even one that can be still obtained if one meets the Biblical conditions, criteria, and also still not rather tries to excuse , defend oneself for not having it. Many people now they do not have these relationships because firstly they have not died to self, or next have not made Jesus Christ as the sole Lord of their life,  and/or they are still trying to do their own thing in their own strength, are following after men rather and not God, are walking in unrepentant sin still,  and /or they are really not  continually living or walking in faith, in the Word of God, the Bible.

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Posted by thenonconformer on November 8, 2008

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as many as are led by the Spirit of God

 

 ”Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19) and  “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all” (2 Corinthians 13:14).
 
The Trinity is a basic, essential , Christian doctrine, stating that God is one being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of three persons:   the Father, the Son (incarnate as Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. i.e.. the one God exists in three Persons and one substance, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, The belief in the Trinity, is a mark of Oriental and Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism and all the mainstream protestant Churches.
 
The non Christian churches that do not support the trinity, include the Unitarian Church and the Mormons- the Latter Day Saints, Jehovah Witnesses and it is very understandable as to why they are not led by the Holy Spirit God, they are lead by a undeniable false spirit, an anti Christ spirit.
 
(Mat 21:42 KJV)  Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
 
(1 Cor 11:3 KJV)  But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

(Eph 5:23 KJV)  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

(Col 1:18 KJV)  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

(Col 2:10 KJV)  And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

(1 Pet 2:7 KJV)  Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

Christians Gathered often, regularly in temples, from house to house too after the death and ressurrection of Jesus Christ

In more detail next Who founded your church Jesus Christ or?

Who founded the catholic church? Boniface (606)
The orthodox church split from the Catholic church in 1054.
Who founded the Lutheran  Church?  Martin Luther  (1512)
Who founded the Anglican Church of England ? King Henry VIII   in 1534
John Knox of Scotland founded the Presbyterian Church, in 1580.
The Congregational Church was founded by Robert Brown in Holland, in 1582.
John Smith in Amsterdam founded the Baptist Church, in 1606.
Michelis Jones in New York founded the Dutch Reformed Church, in 1628.
The Methodist Church, was founded by John & Charles Wesley in England in 1774.
The Unitarian Church was founded by Theophilus Lindley in London in 1774.
Who founded the Plymouth Brethren Church?  John Darby 1847,
Who founded the church of god denomination? D.S. Warner (1880)

Who founded the Methodist church? John Wesley (1729)
Who found the Mennonite Church?
Holdeman Mennonites were founded from a schism in 1859,
Who founded the Jehovah witness church? Charles T. Russell (1874)
Who founded the Mormon church? Joseph smith (1830)
The Protestant Episcopal Church is an offshoot of the Church of England, and was founded by Samuel Seabury in the American Colonies in the 18th Century.

Church of Christ, Thomas & Alexander Campbell, Kentucky. 1827,

Christian Science Church, Mary Baker Eddy, Los Angeles 1879,

The Salvation Army was founded by William Booth in London in 1888.
The Church of the Nazarene was founded in 1895 in Los Angeles, California, by Phineas F. Bresee, a Methodist Episcopal Church minister, and Dr. Joseph
Pomeroy Widney, a Methodist layman
New Covenant Holiness Church was founded between the years of 1886 – 1901.
The Christian & Missionary Alliance Church was founded by  A B Simpson 1887
The Assemblies of God is an evangelical, Pentecostal organization that was founded in Arkansas in 1914. It has grown to be the largest Pentecostal
denominatiom. the Assemblies of God emerged from the mass of Pentecostal sects that formed during the nineteenth century and trace their formation to
the Azusa Street revival of 1906.
Fire Baptized Holiness Church of God of the Americas is a predominantly African-American Pentecostal holiness denomination of Christians. was founded by Benjamin Hardin Irwin and William Edward Fuller, Sr. (1875-1958).

Hey if you have a pet doctrine, or want to preach your own Gospel, merely you start your own church

Mt 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mt 7:21   Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
1Jo 4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Mt 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:’

I do not consider any of these above Churches or rather Crutches  as “correct”   The true Church of Christ of which I am originated about 33 A.D. or actually it was always in the mind of God from the beginning.

 (1 Cor 6:9 KJV)  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

(2 Cor 6:17 KJV)  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

The Traditions Of Men

But understand this: there will be terrifying times in the last days. People will be self-centered and lovers of money, proud, haughty, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, irreligious, callous, implacable, slanderous, licentious, brutal, hating what is good, traitors, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, as they make a pretense of religion but deny its power. Reject them.  2 Timothy 3:1-5
  
Which man started your “tradition”?

Who do you trust? God or man?

and the issue is not just how to be filled wiht the Holy Spirit but how to stay filled with the holy spirit
 
Get baptized in the Holy Spirit as the Lord has commanded. Jesus was as human as we are, and it was only after he was water-baptized by John the Baptist, and the Holy Spirit entered him from Heaven, and God said “This is my son in whom I am well pleased” that Jesus’ ministry began. Before that, He wasn’t yet enabled to do great miracles.  So if Jesus couldn’t do it before He was baptized in the Spirit, how can you or I? No amount of waving a crucifix or using a Bible to block devils can stop the work of Satan. Only being FILLED with the Spirit, when the demons can see the Spirit of God living in you and they panic, and only by casting them out in the mighty name of Jesus, can you go forth and do what Jesus has commanded. http://firefromheaven.blogspot.com/2005/07/church-praying-in-tongues.html
 
 
“Come Holy Spirit come, bless every person that reads this to be filled with Your loving presence, that they may be refreshed and renewed in Your presence, because in Your presence is FULLNESS OF JOY!!!!!! YIPPEE!!!! (Ps 16:11) Be filled with the love and power of the Holy Spirit daily (Eph 5:17-19) yes, be like a child again, remain vulnerable, stay humble and have faith like a child and we shall see miracles 🙂 ” http://jaesonma.com/2007/03/become-like-child-again-d.html 
 
Do see also
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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In the name of Jesus

Over the years I have learned personally the application of these verses into my life
 
(Psa 25:15) Mine eyes are ever toward the LORD; for he shall pluck my feet out of the net.
 
(Isa 54:17 KJV)  No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
 
(Psa 1:1 KJV)  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3    And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
 
(Psa 1:3 KJV)  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
 
(Psa 122:6 KJV)  Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.
 
(Eccl 11:6 KJV)  In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thine hand: for thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they both shall be alike good.
 
(Isa 53:10 KJV)  Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
 
(Acts 3:6 KJV)  Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
 
(Acts 16:18 KJV)  And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.
 
(Isa 55:11 KJV)  So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
 
Now when I seem to almost weekly encounter a demonic obstacle, I merely rely on God by his Holy Spirit to help me, to work on my behalf and as well if need be, tell me where to go and what to do. I merely in faith  start in prayer to God on the subject and wait upon him for instructions. I also tend to pray in Jesus name and I bind, dissolve, render totally useless all the effects of any demonic acts, plots, effects as well.
 
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Superiority Complex, Superior

(Psa 49:1 KJV)  Hear this, all ye people; give ear, all ye inhabitants of the world: 2   Both low and high, rich and poor, together.
It too has been my sad personal experiences that too many people find false reasons, even  supposedly Christian persons in supposedly Christian  churches, to feel superior over the  others.. and it generally seems to be  like this
-those people who never were or are not sick, are more spiritual than those who are or have been sick
-the people married are superior over those divorced, or single
-the people how have children are superior over those who do not
-the people who have a home, car are superior now as well over those who do not have them
-the people who are members of a church are superior to those who are not

-the people who are rich are superior over those who are not
-the people who are educated are superior over those who are not    

 

etc

 

 

 

(Mat 18:1 KJV)  At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
(Mat 18:4 KJV)  Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
(1 Sam 2:7 KJV)  The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
(Job 34:19 KJV)  How much less to him that accepteth not the persons of princes, nor regardeth the rich more than the poor? for they all are the work of his hands.
(Prov 10:15 KJV)  The rich man’s wealth is his strong city: the destruction of the poor is their poverty.
(Prov 13:7 KJV)  There is that maketh himself rich, yet hath nothing: there is that maketh himself poor, yet hath great riches.
(Prov 14:20 KJV)  The poor is hated even of his own neighbour: but the rich hath many friends.
(Prov 18:23 KJV)  The poor useth entreaties; but the rich answereth roughly.
(Prov 22:16 KJV)  He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.
(Prov 28:6 KJV)  Better is the poor that walketh in his uprightness, than he that is perverse in his ways, though he be rich.
(Prov 28:11 KJV)  The rich man is wise in his own conceit; but the poor that hath understanding searcheth him out.
(2 Cor 8:9 KJV)  For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
(James 2:5 KJV)  Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
(James 2:6 KJV)  But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
(Rev 3:17 KJV)  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
 
and how do you see yourself?
 
(Psa 49:20 KJV)  Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish.
7  None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
8  (For the redemption of their soul is precious, and it ceaseth for ever:)
9  That he should still live for ever, and not see corruption.
10  For he seeth that wise men die, likewise the fool and the brutish person perish, and leave their wealth to others.
11  Their inward thought is, that their houses shall continue for ever, and their dwelling places to all generations; they call their lands after their own names.
12  Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish.
13  This their way is their folly: yet their posterity approve their sayings. Selah.
14  Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling.
15  But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.
16  Be not thou afraid when one is made rich, when the glory of his house is increased;
17  For when he dieth he shall carry nothing away: his glory shall not descend after him.
18  Though while he lived he blessed his soul: and men will praise thee, when thou doest well to thyself.
19  He shall go to the generation of his fathers; they shall never see light.
20  Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish.
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Jesus is always still the more excellent way

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Mankind seems always  to have this continual, undeniable approach of ending up always in the negative cess pool of life, of course with Satan’s continual help of course.
 
(Psa 68:34 KJV)  Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency is over Israel, and his strength is in the clouds.
 
(Isa 35:2 KJV)  It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.
 
(Isa 60:15 KJV)  Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
 
(2 Cor 4:7 KJV)  But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
 
(Phil 3:8 KJV)  Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
 

 Jesus is always still the more excellent way
 
(Heb 2:1 KJV)  Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
2  For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward;
3  How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
4  God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
5  For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
6  But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
7  Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
8  Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
9  But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10  For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
11  For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12  Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
13  And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
14  Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15  And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16  For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17  Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18  For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
3:1  Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
 

 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)

 (Heb 2:4 KJV)  God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
 
Very sadly many even supposedly Christian people tend to still define God’s present involvement, God’s gifts to us in this world per their own very limited experiences, very small minds, revealing still their own lack of spirituality, maturity and the need of further growth  in the process.
 
(1 Cor 3:1 KJV)  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2  I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4  For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5  Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6  I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7  So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8  Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9  For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.
10  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11  For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12  Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13  Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
14  If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15  If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
16  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17  If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
18  Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19  For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
21  Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22  Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23  And ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s.

In reality Genuine Born Again, Evangelical, Christians are total abstainers from smoking, drugs, alcohol, cheating, lying, stealing, tax evasions, pornography, or rather all personal vices, Impairments, gay sex now too.  But still not Barrack Obama or Stephen Harper and why?

 
 Clearly ** The Bible teaches against drinking alcoholic beverages.
 
The liars and the demons  of course will say other wise.
 

 Many conservative pundits today are trying desperately to warn their fellow Americans that Barack Obama has been linked to various far-left organizations, but it still is in reality it is really unfair to the Bible, Christianity, to try to link all socialists as communists, unbiblical. For unlike most evangelicals these days and their churches denominations who wrongfully do not care about any of the others, only themselves it seems,  Jesus, the Apostles, Apostle James included, and deacons care about both the good physical and spiritual welfare of the flock, of all persons, the poor and needy, the sick   persons too.. they were Both conservatives and liberal- socialist sas well.. not  basically Republicans. Judas was clearly the sole  Republican..

  
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(1 Cor 5:11 KJV)  But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.  12   For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13  But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

One thing is still very clear the too often pretentious news media and  the too often pretentious  politicians are not actively doing their jobs in helping people to be informed, having the proper facts to be able to make the proper decisions, take the proper actions, so do thank God for the existence of the internet, no matter how imperfect now it itself is as well.. it offers now at least some valid truths to the discerning readers.

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/in-the-beginning-god/ 

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/lord-if-you-are-willing/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 (Phil 3:13 KJV)  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 
(Phil 3:20 KJV)  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21   Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
 

(Phil 4:1 KJV)  Therefore, my brethren, dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved. 

  

 

 

  

 

 

 

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by thenonconformer on October 18, 2008  •  Permalink
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No excuses will be accepted

 

 

Matt 25:30 And throw the good-for-nothing servant into the outer darkness; there will be weeping and grinding of teeth.
Matt 25:31 When the Son of Man comes in His glory (His majesty and splendor), and all the {holy} angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
Matt 25:32 All nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them [the people] from one another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats;
Matt 25:33 And He will cause the sheep to stand at His right hand, but the goats at His left.
Matt 25:34 Then the King will say to those at His right hand, Come, you blessed of My Father [you favored of God and appointed to eternal salvation], inherit (receive as your own) the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
Matt 25:35 For I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you brought Me together with yourselves {and} welcomed {and} entertained {and} lodged Me,
Matt 25:36 I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you visited Me with help {and} ministering care, I was in prison and you came to see Me.
Matt 25:37 Then the just {and} upright will answer Him, Lord, when did we see You hungry and gave You food, or thirsty and gave You something to drink?
Matt 25:38 And when did we see You a stranger and welcomed {and} entertained You, or naked and clothed You?
Matt 25:39 And when did we see You sick or in prison and came to visit You?
Matt 25:40 And the King will reply to them, Truly I tell you, in so far as you did it for one of the least [in the estimation of men] of these My brethren, you did it for Me.
Matt 25:41 Then He will say to those at His left hand, Begone from Me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels!
Matt 25:42 For I was hungry and you gave Me no food, I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink,
Matt 25:43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome Me {and} entertain Me, I was naked and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me with help {and} ministering care.
Matt 25:44 Then they also [in their turn] will answer, Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?
Matt 25:45 And He will reply to them, Solemnly I declare to you, in so far as you failed to do it for the least [in the estimation of men] of these, you failed to do it for Me.
Matt 25:46 Then they will go away into eternal punishment, but those who are just {and} upright {and} in right standing with God into eternal life.

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Being ignorant and showing a false hatred towards the truth

WHY ARE SO MANY PERSONS  ignorant and  are showing a false hatred towards the truth?
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Eccl 7:4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning, but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth {and} sensual joy.
Eccl 7:5 It is better for a man to hear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools.
Eccl 7:6 For like the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool. This also is vanity (emptiness, falsity, and futility)!
Eccl 7:7 Surely oppression {and} extortion make a wise man foolish, and a bribe destroys the understanding {and} judgment.
Eccl 7:8 Better is the end of a thing than the beginning of it, and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.
Eccl 7:9 Do not be quick in spirit to be angry {or} vexed, for anger {and} vexation lodge in the bosom of fools.
Eccl 7:10 Do not say, Why were the old days better than these? For it is not wise {or} because of wisdom that you ask this.
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(Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?(Mat 7:4 KJV) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?(Mat 7:5 KJV) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
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 Amos 5:10 They hate him who reproves in the [city] gate [holding him as an abomination and rejecting his rebuke], and they abhor him who speaks uprightly.
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(Micah 3:5 KJV) Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him

(Jer 2:11 KJV) Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.   (Jer 2:13 KJV) For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.   (Jer 2:32 KJV) Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.   (Jer 4:22 KJV) For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.   (Jer 5:26 KJV) For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.   (Jer 5:31 KJV) The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

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(Jer 6:14 KJV) They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.   (Jer 6:27 KJV) I have set thee for a tower and a fortress among my people, that thou mayest know and try their way.   (Jer 7:12 KJV) But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.   (Jer 7:23 KJV) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.   (Jer 8:7 KJV) Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.

(Jer 23:22 KJV) But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

(Jer 50:6 KJV) My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.   (Jer 51:45 KJV) My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.   (Ezek 13:10 KJV) Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered mortar:

(Hosea 4:6 KJV) My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

(Amos 9:10 KJV) All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.

(Zec 8:7 KJV) Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country;

Anyone choosing even being ignorant and showing a false hatred towards the truth, others damages one self the most still..
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We, yes not one of us, we also do not have to accept any of these personal, verbal, physical abuses quietly. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s best interest still too. God himself does not accept them at all, not even quietly. We all, Christians now included, do have a right of freedom of speech, the right to be heard, legal and human rights now too, even the right of freedom of religion.
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I  too am really not interested in mere  personal false bashes, lies, slanders, even mere  opinions on any religions, persons..  and not detailed, substantiated too.  I try to stay with the truth, reputable facts, not unsubstantiated personal opinions by even gangsters.. I rightfully try to separate the meat from the bones, the facts from fiction, and so should we all..
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Everyone has an opinion, theory, too often  unproven substantiated, and too often they do listen  to the devil and his lies now too. You should know by now that everything you read, hear in the newspaper, on the net, even in the church is not  necessarily  true. You need to use your own judgments to evaluate it all still too. 

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Reality anyone can find now any internet site that will back up what they say too or what they want to believe in for the internet is also always now a cess pool of misinformation too. I do not beleive anything anyone says I  always do still check it out.. so should we all.
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Even some news reporters too often lie, distort the truth, and just cause it is said or in writing at CNN does not mean it is true as I learned firsthand too.
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My neighbor   told me that the people who have to continually make personal bashes on others are really now trying to divert   others from looking at their own visible weakness, shortcomings, failures, that now   they are so personally really conscious off,   they THUS FALSELY next use this diversionist approach which still does not change what is wrong with them personally now still too.  We too often examples of the bad acts of one too many of them too..

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So what is really wrong with then Bullies, Basher that they  have to continually bash any others? Did their  own parents reject them too? or wife or who else?

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I HAVE MADE HUNDREDS OF POST ON DIFFERENT SUBJECTS AND STILL RELIGION IS THE MAIN POST MOST PEOPLE DO READ. 80 PERCENT OF MY READERS PREFER TO READ THE RELIGIOUS POST FIRSTLY TOO.. THIS IS THE REALITY MANY BULLIES, BASHERS, LIBERALS , CANNOT SEE OR FACE .

next the l Christian topics are the   most popular read ones.

Secular posts are all in the bottom ten percent .. in reality few bother to read them.. Real truth too.

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And any man or women who separates his political life from religion has no morals..  and that is what the devil likes, the Liberals and the Conservatives, the others do not like moral references, the Bible to be pointed out, they prefer wrongfully their own lies, slanders and who knows now what garbage next as well..
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 but even the devil seems too like still to refer to the rules, the Bible, he clearly does also not read or practice.. I do not play by the devil or other’s man made rules as well as we all should know by now
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by thenonconformer on October 8, 2008  •  Permalink
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Divisive Re: Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren

Sent:  Subject: Re: Dispensationalist , Plymouth Brethren
Sola Scriptura; Solus Christus; Sola Gratia. Sola Fide; Soli Deo Gloria!

Over 3 decades ago I wrote to John F Walwood, to which he had also replied and I said he was a liar for the Bible did not support his dispensational false teaching, and to this date I have been fully right, Today to him and his similar supporters, the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren I do still rightfully say the same thing too. They are still liars.

>>;Most of what you wrote concerning the teachings of those you refer to as “Plymouth Brethren” is just not true.
Most? of what I wrote , all I wrote is true.

>> I will first dispel your falsehood that we are hiding from what we really are and teach by writing this letter.  I, we are not hiding anything. Below is a detailed description of what I, we teach and by grace seek to practice. Show me the “false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more.”
>>As to the scriptural idea of dispensations,  the apostle Paul believed in dispensations. “That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:” Ephesians 1:10

 here you quickly had  proved your own deceit, you took one isolated verse, and made it a  plural even

>>What does scripture teach?  Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.  Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.  Is Christ divided?  (1 Cor. 1: 10-13)

 and yet the brethren cause, practice,  and have divisions amongst themselves from the start even.. one of the first being Rev George Muellar

>> The truth of Scripture is this. All true believers are all of Christ.  We declare it strongly and clearly, WE ARE ALL OF CHRIST, THAT IS, ALL WHO ARE TRULY BORN AGAIN!  ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS ARE OF CHRIST AND SHOULD BE GATHERED IN NO OTHER NAME BUT CHRIST’S NAME.

 you are not true believers for you do not believe what the Bible, holy spirit says rather you reinterpret it to your liking,

>>So in accordance with scripture we only call ourselves by such names as are common to all true believers in Christ. Such as Christians, brethren, saints, believers and other such like names.  There is never an excuse not to obey the word of God. We can and ought to obey, even if no one else will.  We owe it to the One who redeemed us. What saith the Scriptures.  For where two or three are gathered together in my name there am I in the midst of them.  (Mat. 18:20)  True Christians only have authority to be gathered together in one name.  That name is the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and that name alone. This is authentic, primitive,  as in  original Christianity. This was the practice of the first century church.

There are Much too many typical Plymouth Dispensational Brethren and whether they are open or closed Brethren that are deceitful .. they are also those persons who do do still falsely and too often substitute next their own men ‘s teaching for the Christ’s, and while the Bible opposes divorce for Christian persons, the Plymouth Brethren undeniably even encourage divorce of any spouse Christian or not who does not heed to the full brethren doctrines, the wife does not need to listen to her husband in anything even if the husband who was to be the head of the home .

The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren undeniably as I too have witnessed do go behind the husbands back and will even encourage the wife to divorce her husband cause he is not a true Plymouth Dispensational Brethren contrary to the Bible.

(1 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

1 Cor 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
1 Cor 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1 Cor 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren tend to be WASP. white, Anglo Saxon, protestants still too, and the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren say that “We teach that all who place their faith and trust in Jesus Christ are immediately placed by the Holy Spirit into one united spiritual body, the church” is a lie for too many many real Christians are immediately rejected, shut out of the brethren church , excluded for not being dispensationalist. The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren also undeniable practice personal character assassination, slander, human rights abuse when they often do openly make a claim that anyone, any Christian who is a Pentecostal is an emotional, mentally disturbed individual as I have often witnessed myself as well.. The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren false views on sins, accountability, grace, Israel and much more too is an undeniable fact even if they lie and try falsely to say it is Authentic Christianity, or the Good News, the Gospel, that for sure it is not! Plymouth Dispensational Brethren it seems they like to hide from what they really are and teach.”While they the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren too often hide who they are by making the statement they are Christians, they certainly are not true Christians and for century have not been accepted by the major Christian churches.The Plymouth Dispensational Brethren to me rightfully are the wolves in sheep clothing, the false brethren who crept in amongst us falsely saying they are Christians.. they are a new group at it too.. since they started only in the 1800.. It would be rather generally accurate to say that they are racists, sectarian, divisional, hate mongers, anti Pentecostals, liars and slanders too.. and anyone does not heed to dispensational teach is evil, Ch Spurgeoen, Rev George Muellar, me included ehh “

There are too many false Christian brethren in the Plymouth Dispensational Brethren even falsely like to lump as one, wolves in sheep clothing, persons like Judas the apostle was false

What does scripture teach? Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? (1 Cor. 1: 10-13)

and yet the brethren themselves do often cause, practice, and have divisions amongst themselves from the start even.. one of the first being the dispensational brethren Rev George Muellar rejected many of their teachings.

So the same Jesus will say to them I never knew you (Mat 7:22 KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

“Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.” — 2 Thess. 2:1,2.Apostle Peter tells us in his second letter (1.16,19-2.3): For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty …. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place …. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that brought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you ….(1 Tim 1:7 KJV) Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.(Heb 5:12 KJV) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

>>When someone asks me who we are and how we describe ourselves, I tell them we are simply nothing more and nothing less than Christians gathered in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.  And we do so on the basis, ground and principal that there is only one body of Christ and that all true Christians are of Christ and are part of the one body.

 In reality 70 percent of people professing to be Christians are really not even born again, saved, they are still not even Christians, no they are not all Christians in a church like you lie. There are too many false brethren in this bunch of Christians you falsely like to lump as one, wolves in sheep clothing, like Judas the apostle

>>;Over the years outsiders and historians have called us by names not of our choosing, but we have not and do not lay claim to any of them.  The “No Name Church”, “PB Church”, “PBer’s”, “The Brethren Church”, “Darbyites” and such like.  The history books often refer to us as Plymouth Brethren or those who started the Plymouth Brethren movement.  This Plymouth Brethren label came to be used in the early 1800s because an assembly of Christians gathered in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in Plymouth England had a number of gifted preachers that traveled and preached throughout the country and because they were from the town of Plymouth, people would often refer to them as one of those brethren from Plymouth. Thus the label or designation Plymouth Brethren. It would be generally accurate to say that we are evangelical, dispensational, conservative and orthodox as to doctrine and practice.

 It would be rather  generally accurate for me again to say that   you mostly are still  false, liars, slanderers, sectarian,  divisional, hate mongers, anti Pentecostals, liars and slanders   too

>>We teach that the Bible is the only infallible rule of faith and practice (Matt. 5:18; 24:35; John 10:35; 16:12, 13; 17:17; 1 Cor. 2:13; 2 Tim. 3:15-17; Heb. 4:12; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21) We teach that the Bible is God’s written revelation to man, and that the 66 books of the Bible given to us by the Holy Spirit constitute the inspired Word of God (1 Cor. 2:7-14; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21). We teach that the Word of God is verbally inspired in every word (2 Tim. 3:16), absolutely inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. We teach the literal, grammatical-historical-contextual-dispensational  interpretation of Scripture. We teach that God spoke in His written Word by a process of divine and human authorship. The Holy Spirit so superintended the human authors that, through their individual personalities and different styles of writing, they composed and recorded God’s Word to man (2 Pet. 1:20, 21) without error in the whole or in the part (Matt. 5:18; 2 Tim. 3:16). We teach that, whereas there may be several applications of any given passage of Scripture, there is but one true interpretation.

ha ha ha the Brethren one of course..

>>The meaning of Scripture is to be found as one diligently applies the literal, grammatical-historical-contextual-dispensational method of interpretation under the leading and guidance of the Holy Spirit (John 7:17; 16:12-15; 1 Cor. 2:7-15; 1 John 2:20). The Scripture is its own best interpreter by comparing Scripture with Scripture.  (1 Cor. 2:13)  It is the responsibility of all believers to carefully search out the true intent and meaning of Scripture and that the Scriptures stand in judgment of men; never ought men stand in judgment of it. (Heb. 4:12,13)

 that is mere hypocrisy, for  mind you the brethren insist you read their soley their recommended commentaries.. and follow only their teachers

>>We teach that the Holy Spirit administers spiritual gifts to the church.

 but you also add to the word of God and lying say all his gifts have now ceased

>>All men are thus sinners by nature, by choice, and by divine declaration (Psa. 14:1-3; Jer. 17:9; Rom. 3:9-18, 23; 5:10-12)

  Including most of the brethren now still too

>>kept by God’s power and are thus secure in Christ forever

which is contrary to the Bible  https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/the-promises-of-eternal-life-by-jesus-christ/

>>We teach that the local assembly is autonomous and free from any central authority or control other than Christ who is the head of the Church.

the control is mostly still  by your bad elders.. and you do still falsely and too often substitute next men ‘s teaching for the Christ’s.

>>We teach that there were two kinds of gifts given to the early church: miraculous gifts of divine revelation and healing, given temporarily in the apostolic era for the purpose of confirming the authenticity of the apostles’ message ( 2 Cor. 12:12; Heb. 2:3, 4); and ministering gifts, given to equip believers for edifying one another. With the New Testament revelation now complete, Scripture becomes the sole test of the authenticity of a man’s message, and confirming gifts of a miraculous nature are no longer necessary to validate a man or his message (1 Cor. 13:8-12). Miraculous gifts can even be counterfeited by Satan so as to deceive even believers (Matt. 24:24). The only gifts in operation today are those non-revelatory equipping gifts given for edification (Rom. 12:6-8). We teach that no one possesses the sign gift of healing today but that God does hear and answer the prayer of faith and will answer in accordance with His own perfect will for the sick, suffering, and afflicted (Luke 18:1-8; John 5:7-9; 2 Cor. 12:6-10; James 5:13-16; 1 John 5:14, 15).

 That is all brethren dunk only.. not the word of God for my experience in the baptism of the Holy Sprit is real and so are my speaking, praying in tongues , something you cannot talk about cause you have never firstly personal  experienced it

 Like I said read all of my post they disprove all you believe in and often

ses also

http://monergist.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/95-theses-against-dispensationalism/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/how-to-pray-for-healing/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/

Mind you the brethren have to next attack me with personal slander

>>Your biterness betrays you

they you do not know me well enough to be a false judge of me..

Again now do read all my posts.. telling the truth about the Brethren is not bitterness, but my real honesty for  even a doctor tells negative truths.

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/lies-slander-personal-defamation-on-the-net-be-warned/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/relgion-finding-out-the-facts-discovering-the-truth/

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Posted by thenonconformer on September 29, 2008

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/re-dispensationalist-plymouth-brethren/

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