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How to handle divorce, lusts..

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It still comes as a shock to many that they are facing a divorce, woe, sorrows and hardships seem still to be these days for the false initializer of divorce.
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These days it is very likely that you get divorced as likely as you will get cancer or a heart disease, diabetes.  Rejection Leads to Depression and Anxiety. “Rejection is one thing, but divorce is another. It is everything of rejection and still more. It is a cruel death to marriage. No funeral service is held. No friends gather to express their heartfelt sympathy. Divorce is one of the most humiliating things that can happen, as your life seems to be a complete failure and you believe that everyone else sees you this way, too. It seems that all eyes are looking at you condemning . Rejection and then divorce are such negative experiences and can become very depressive. A heavy spirit must be dealt with. We must allow God to take charge and completely take over in our lives or else we may be completely devastated. Don’t be surprised if you experience rejection even from someone in your family. ”  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2018/03/15/estrangement/
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Divorce Counsel from most Bible-believing pastors tends to be absurd, unbiblical. Your marriage relationship may have ended but your life has not! There are no guarantees that God would someday restore your marriage. Don’t fall for the lie that God helps only the picture-perfect family; Scripture reminds us that Jesus lifts up those who are broken, rejected, downhearted and desperate. He will make the tragedy of your divorce one of those “all things [that] work together for good” (see Romans 8:28) as you determine to love Him through it all.. We can choose to go on carrying our heavy hurt, or we can make choices to move forward. Divorce is a death – the death of a marriage.
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Most experts agree that the grief surrounding divorce is much more complicated than the emotions following the death of a spouse. Friends and family can be insensitive or hurtful after a divorce. Ask God to show you how you can rely on Him to help you thrive after other people have rejected you. Keep in mind when dealing with the uncertainty of human relationships that you can always count on God’s constant presence with you and steadfast love for you. Ask God to help you learn whatever He wants you to learn from your breakup or divorce, and to help you overcome any struggles with insecurity or jealousy. I wondered how I could now serve the Lord and new doors opened
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Funny how so many persons want others to be prefect, when nobody is, especially them. I put my trust in God and not in man.. We submit ourselves solely to God, to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.. who guides us, leads us into all truth. All friendship, relationship, submission not just in marriages in real life now too is reciprocal, and unenforced. Jesus Christ is still the head of the Church, Churches! Let me be very clear about that Jesus has set me free, now I am a slave to no man but to Jesus Christ himself, alone. I serve no man, especially any of the clearly foolish, perverted ones, and I take orders from no man, I do not have to do what they desire or try to command me to do at any time too. No matter if they still do wrongfully think otherwise too. I am still only God’s slave and not any man’s. 

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Falsely even now trying to blame the  spouse for all or most of the marital problems is ludicrous still too. There are still even negative emotional traumas, experiences associated with almost all divorces since you still tend to in real life to reap what you have sown, the personal lies and your acts of thefts included now. You do still have to live with the negative consequences of the divorce and your own major unacceptable personal negative contributions to the divorce and that is also the reasons so many people tend to have more than one divorce next too. In a sadly too common, unacceptable divorce scenario, one of the spouse pictures themselves as the innocent party and the other side is painted as a big bad villain. I admit I am dumbfounded that most  spouses,  wives  included,  falsely believe they personally will not reap the bad things they have sowed in their marriage. What fools they really still are! Cheat, lie, steal , slander, abuse ,    adultery, there is a price next to pay for it still too. No matter who you think you are.

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Is 2:22 Cease to trust in [weak, frail, and dying] man, whose breath is in his nostrils [for so short a time]; in what sense can he be counted as having intrinsic worth?

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Decide you’re going to stay married, no matter what. Literally When a woman first seriously considers divorce she usually isn’t thinking about the theological implications of her desires – all she knows is that she is desperate wants to get more from her husband. She doesn’t arrive at this state of desperation by a process of calm deduction. Most husbands have few memories of “hurting” their wives and do not give it any thought. The truth is that a hardened woman only got that way because she was elf centred, selfish. Most women leave their husbands, because they entered marriage with false expectations Such a wife will be consumed by bitterness. She should realize the negative impact of her bad decisions will have, on her children or others . Her heart is too far hardened, and will not now respond to words of Truth. She falsely blames him for her bitterness.  https://postedat.wordpress.com/2018/01/16/divorce-abortions-polygamy-adultery-are-immoral-as-being-gay/

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Yes  a wife tends not to file for divorce unless she already has hopes of potential future gains, a present cash reserve, the support of her own family for the divorce, and a pre picked potential future sex partner.  Divorce also clearly is still  not a valid teaching, doctrine of  the Christian church. When you file for divorce it is very likely cause you are a sex maniac or a control freak.. If you are a Control freak you are not only still an unrealistic, immature, immoral person but you may have a serious mental condition  http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
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The husband generally response  like this.. “Out of the blue my wife says she is divorcing me, and she wants everything of mine since she says I am a 100 percent to blame for the marriage failure.” 
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Who’s telling the truth in a divorce dispute . Without a doubt, many fingers that get pointed at belong to the people who are truthful. it is very hard to determine who is telling the truth with the  salacious false stories, gossip, misinformation and lies about his personal life . So there’s often a big problem in sorting out the truthful accusers from the lying accusers who lie because of  a profit motive. sexual lusts, melding;  in-laws.  The spouse she may look refined, but  she  can get very vicious when angry, she is a gold-digging fantasist, a blackmailer. a liar.   She makes False claims that don’t have time stamps  and have   been doctored.  The estranged wife  is ‘making up’ false claims of domestic abuse in order to boost her divorce settlement.  It is not unusual for the divorce perpetrator’s playbook to include miscasting the victim as the sole villain.’ As she was leaving him she had threatened to ‘lie about him publicly if he didn’t agree to her terms, over a clash over parental rights spiced by  the  in-laws, her parents’ “desperate desire” for her and the children to move  near them, so that they the children can have a closer relationship with their maternal grandparents,”  The “affluent” in-laws are “bankrolling” her litigation so that they could enjoy easier access to the grandchildren. The spouse was also  fighting over the preservation of hidden assets and stolen heirlooms. she is thus accused  of cooking up the abuse story to influence a judge’s decision on spousal support
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The one sided narrative of a clearly money hungry, money grabbing wife is common in this age, as she is perfect and he is the one all in the wrong too..      
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In reality both  partners are to blame for the marriage failure likely..
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While there are many reasons for a divorce such as unrestrained sexual lusts, laziness, unrealistic expectations, monetary greed and theft, forgiveness and the false support of the divorce by close friends and family miners too, even bad pastors.
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Fornication, Adultery, Marital failures, and many other destructive conditions, exist because of personal sin.  They also do exist because humans have decided that their way is better than God’s way.  They have decided that fulfilling their desires is more important than obeying and glorifying the Creator/Sustainer of the universe.  Nevertheless, all persons must  learn what the Bible says about sin, adultery in order to see it the way God sees it.  Only when we change our views to line up with God’s views can we live the full, blessed life He has waiting for us. Personal Sins of commission are also  often the result of One’s sins of omission, even the sin of presumption.
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Now some people claim fighting over the money and / or lack of communications is the main causes of divorce.
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LETS NOT PRETEND TO BE DUMB AND DENY THAT MANY OF THE DIVORCING SPOUSES EVEN PROFESSING CHRISTIAN ONES AND THEIR LAWYERS, SUPPORTERS THEY DO FIRSTLY LIE EVEN IN WRITING  TO THE COURTS TOO.. THEY DO COMMIT PERJURY TO THE COURTS IN DIVORCE DISPUTES, AND TOO OFTEN WASTE THE COURT’S TIME  AND TAX PAYER’S MONEY CAUSE BASICALY THEY ARE ALL STILL  PROSTITUTES, EVEN THE LAWYERS THEY PROVIDE THEIR SERVICES   
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Marriage has recently become a capstone for the privileged class. The decline of marriage, to the extent that we’re seeing it, is happening almost exclusively among the poor. The lowest-earning men and women (i.e.: the least-educated men and women) have seen the steepest declines in marriage rates,  Reality-  THE BAD SPOUSES will still carry on their  shortcomings still next IN THEIR LIFE AND INTO THE NEXT MARRIAGES..
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Money issues is part of it.. but often it is still the unrealistic expectations and many other reasons.. But here is an interesting question did your spouse respond to you the way you have responded to God.
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Fornication, Adultery, Marital failures, and many other destructive conditions, exist because of sin.  They also do exist because humans have decided that their way is better than God’s way.  They have decided that fulfilling their desires is more important than obeying and glorifying the Creator/Sustainer of the universe.  Nevertheless, all persons must  learn what the Bible says about sin, adultery in order to see it the way God sees it.  Only when we change our views to line up with God’s views can we live the full, blessed life He has waiting for us. Personal Sins of commission are also  often the result of One’s sins of omission, even the sin of presumption.

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Believe it or not when you sin deliberately and do not admit it, stop the sin even, there is still a price to pay.. even now especially for adultery… divorce… One of the undeniable punishment is that your sin is shouted from the Housetops..   http://postedat.wordpress.com/2013/11/07/sin-is-sequential/

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Most church attendees are so entrenched in their practice of ignoring and even worse,flagrantly violating Jesus’ teachings on the sacredness of marriage, with their unbiblical violations that are taught from the pulpits of their churches, that they they do not recognize or understand the apostasy they have dedicated their lives to practice falsely divorce. .yes they falsely  even multiple re-marriages, for the financial gain of the church. And why do most pastors allow divorce.. in reality they are still sex maniacs who want to keep the option of divorce.. Sad. The divorce rate among Christians exceeds that of non-Christians.A life of marriage creates extreme dependency upon a human rather than upon God so that emotional desires are met which results in a strong craving and even a psychological need for another marriage after a divorce occurs.Re- marriages which also are strongly promoted in many churches, create a one-way death ticket to hell:  Mark 10:11-12 (New King James Version)  11 So He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. 12 And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.” Luke 14:25-27 (New King James Version) 25 Now great multitudes went with Him. And He turned and said to them, 26 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, WIFE and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. 27 And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. We must love also now still Jesus so much that we will sacrifice our own lives, family  to serve Him and Him alone.God Himself has now promised to meet all of our needs if we serve Him, not our wants, lusts, desires, wishes.   http://kambulow.blogspot.ca/2013/06/god-always-comes-first.html 
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Now you certainly still now  next cannot make someone live with you.. and how realistically is it to falsely expect them then  to even change now too?

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A DIVORCE STILL TENDS NOT TO BE A NEW HAPPY START ALL OVER AGAIN EXPERIENCE IN FACT and with no negative personal consequences such as severe health problems and a big  financial losses now too.

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Also in a divorce you tend to carry the old baggage and scars still with you on and in .

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Many a person  when they see these people divorcing they really tend next not to recognize them and their behavior, for it clearly is different from what they had known before, were used too in fact

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(Mark 10:29 KJV)  And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel’s, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
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Here is a quick Bible study for you folks.. notice above that wife is singular, and Jesus himself does not promise to replace your old wife with a new wife.
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Face it the single biggest cause of depression basically is your own doings and not just a bad marriage.. But don’t expect any marriage to make you happier over having a personal relationship with God still or the new or old marriage to be a false substitute for having a personal relationship with God. I have been recently counseling a person who desperately wants to be remarried, she has been twice married, but she is not interesting in following after God only after her own desires, lusts.. so no marriage for her will make her happy or replace God’s vacuum in her life still too. God has not promised you now even a right of remarriage.. but he promised you peace, joy and happiness and yes you can have that outside of marriage with Jesus..

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The negative reality also now is that a divorce really does not change anything, it does not turn the clock backwards and merely let you start all over again as foolish, immature politicians, others, ostriches rather, would wrongfully let you to believe.

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Divorce is also still one of the worst possible way to try to get security and happiness.

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ONE OF THE MOST COMMON, POPULAR TOPICS, SEARCHES ON THE INTERNET is can a Christian next get divorced and remarried, and the simple answer is no! but wait  do not stop reading yet.. if you are married, living to a demon, a control freak, a liar, a lazy good for nothing abusive person then please now do immediately get out of the marriage, do get an immediate separation.. and this not the kind of advice you would expect from a preacher of peace and love, but I am telling you all this for our own good, and you can thank me later.. and maybe next the still good for nothing bum, lousy spouse, he or she will wake up as to what she is really like and they may try to get help to change herself, himself.. but meanwhile don’t feel guilty about the peace you now have in your life.. By the way make sure first you are not the creepy, a good for nothing spouse yourself otherwise by your actions you will be doing your own spouse a great, great service.
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Now as remarriage generally is still out of the question even as it does not deal with the reasons you are facing the divorce.. you made a real bad choice  and are likely to repeat it too..
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There are much too many even too typical Professing Christians now, even amongst the Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostal,  Fundamentals, Plymouth Dispensational Brethren, and whether they are open or closed Brethren, that are still deceitful .. and  they are also those same persons who do  still falsely and too often substitute next their own or  men ‘s false teaching for those of  Christ’s, and while the one Bible still does opposes divorce for all Christian persons, even the Plymouth Brethren undeniably, they too do often even encourage  the divorce of any spouse, Christian or not, especially anyone who does not heed to the full brethren doctrines, for solely according to them too falsely the deceived Christian wife does not need to listen to her husband in anything, even from the same husband who was to be the head of the home as admonished by Jesus , especially if he does not jump at their command.. Not only the Brethren, but even bad Fundamental, Pentecostal, bad Baptist pastors also falsely now teach and do this as well all done while they falsely try to maintain a full, crooked control and economic grasp over their religious empires.. The poor wife who is seduced by any of these bad pastors is surely headed for a very severe downfall next ..
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Now as far as that supposedly  innocent spouse of yours, the all perfect one.. do tell her that mane and women are equal sinners still.
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Matthew 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the  beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a  beam is in thine own eye? 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the  beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

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Luke 6:41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but perceivest not the  beam that is in thine own eye? 42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the  beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.

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Ecclesiastes 7 20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

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Romans 3 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

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Jude 1:20,21  But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

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PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR TRUST, EYES ON OTHERS ARE CURSED BY GOD NEXT.. the same person  who are often  lazy, unrealistic, has false values and false expectations ..

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Philippians 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

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True happiness cannot be in reality achieved without having a continual, personal relationship with God here on earth and us knowing and following solely his will of our life too.

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Understandably too many persons are discontented unhappy today with themselves ,and others and they basically have a God shaped vacuum that they are trying to fill in with alcohol, bad drugs, verbal abuse , friends.  power, control, sex, smoking or whatever, and none of this counterfeit fulfillment will even help to make for their own personal lasting happiness too.

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Personal depression is also related to being self centered,  having a God shaped vacuum in our own life, and from deviating from God, his words in the Bible, God’s will and plan for our life too. Jesus made it very clear that without Him one can do nothing, meaning one cannot be successfully happy, effective.

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Many people still to often make the very serious mistake of following after someone, instead of God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.

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The Women are often falsely depressed cause they out unrealistic hope, faith, expectations, idoltary in their spouses.  (1 John 2:17 KJV) And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.  Why are so many people still obsessed with IDOLS,  fantasy, romance, divorce,  drugs, alcohol, even TV, movies, sex, pleasure, pornography.. for most of them personally it is an initial lazy,  false escapism approach from the too often real negative aspects of life that we firstly all tend to have, particularly due to our own unrepentant sins and due to  Satan’s buffeting, harassment of them.. the grass may appear greener in the neighbors yard cause you do not know what hardships they are facing now, the supposedly rich persons included. While God for his faithful few give them the grace to endure hardships and even to overcome them, we are all nevertheless bound to have trails and tribulations, hardships, all of us..  Instead of personally first learning how to use the Bible to oppose Satan, obtain peace in their own life, too many persons turn to the flesh.. The problem also  with the common graphic misrepresentation of the pleasure of sex but the reality is that even the Gays, lesbians, adulterers tend to have even more negative consequences, oppressions in their life to force them into deeper bondage with Satan.. Jesus sets us free from all that.

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Why is God jealous of idols before us? well it means he is envious for our own good..  he strives for all things to be  our good… What idols? what ever replaces God is an idol.. what ever you falsely worship as  substitute for God. And  it can be drugs, booze, sex, or your wife, HUSBAND,  pastor, father, son , daughter, a person, car,. self…  for we have a god shaped  vacuum in our life.. filling it with false substitutes, junk will never be acceptable to God. Never.

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If you still do have a God shaped vacuum that is unfilled, then no other things, no relationships or careers, goals, next will satisfy you, not any personal, social, community relationships.. http://cityocean.wordpress.com/2010/09/03/marriage-problems-or-a-realtionship-problem/

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There is not one verse in the Bible that says still that a man has to be a provider…. the women helps in this matter as per Pr 31:10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.14 She is like the merchants’ ships; she bringeth her food from afar.15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

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It seems that many people, professing Christians included now, tend to personally only seek God only when they have serious needs, problems or they do want something really bad and next when the problem is solved, or they got what they wanted, they next often tend to, do seem to forget about God again? True happiness cannot be in reality achieved without having a continual, personal relationship with God here on earth and us continually knowing and following solely his will of our life too, instead of Idols.    Why is God jealous of idols before us? well it means he is envious for our own good.. he strives for all things to be our good… What idols? what ever replaces God is an idol.. what ever you falsely worship as substitute for God. And it can be drugs, booze, sex, or your wife, son , daughter, a persons, car,  self, even your church, your pastor, your denomination, your own doctrines, beliefs, your culture, nationality … for we all had or  have a god shaped vacuum in our life.. but  filling it with extremes or  false substitutes, junk will never be acceptable to God. Never. If you still do have a God shaped vacuum that is unfilled, then no other things, no relationships or careers, goals, next will satisfy you, not even any personal, social, community relationships, acts.  Hey I also have learned long time ago that merely telling the truth to some people will not work, they have their false idols, false lies they still want to handle, and they will take the Ostrich approach to the truth, but hopefully the truth will next still help some people. https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/you-can-have-no-idols-.before-god-ever/

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Are You On The Road To Hell?  What kind of people will populate Hell?  Or, more precisely, the Lake of Fire?
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The answer would surprise most people. sins which will keep you out of Heaven,  The Apostle John lists some of them here:
◾Cowards
◾Faithless
◾People who practice detestable things
◾Murderers
◾Sexually immoral
◾Sorcerers
◾Idolaters
◾Liars
Sexual sins are included.
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“Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.” 1 Corinthians 6:18
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3 It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control his own body[a] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; 6 and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. 7 For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8 Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit.  1 Thessalonians 4:3-8
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“Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”–1 Cor. 6:9,10
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“But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Matthew 5:28
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“Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.” Colossians 3:5
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“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.” Hebrews 13:4
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Romans 7:2- “For example, by law a married women is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. 3 So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from the law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another
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 Jesus Christ said in…Mark 10:11-12…11″Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another women commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and she marries another man, she commits adultery.” This verse by Jesus Christ Himself makes it very clear that man nor women is to leave the marriage.
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 Jesus also spoke about divorce in. Matthew 5:31-32 31″It has been said, `Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce. 32`But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and any one who marries the divorced women commits adultery.’…Notice in verse 32 where it says …except for marital unfaithfulness’
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Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (1 Tim 4:1, KJV)
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If a Christian’s faith in Jesus Christ includes fornication, adultery, homosexual activity, indulging in pornography, etc. then this “Jesus” is not the Jesus of the Bible. Those who believed on Christ years ago and have brought forth fruits meet for repentance but now have given in to the lusts of the flesh will be “cut off” because they have not continued in God’s goodness.   Rom. 11:2222 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
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For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. (2 Tim 4:3,4)
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Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God (NASB) 1 Cor. 6:9,10,
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 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore, do not be partners with them (Eph. 5:5-7).
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But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death (Rev. 21:8).
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Romans 1:24- 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator – who is forever praised. Amen
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed in lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28  Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, He gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They became filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
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The true plan of salvation is repentance towards God and faith in Christ Jesus (Acts 20:21). We prove our repentance by our deeds (Acts 26:20). The Lord Jesus taught the road to life is hard and only a few will find it (Mt. 7:13,14, NKJV). Many get saved, but afterwards fall away (Lk. 8:13; Jn. 6:66; 1 Tim. 1:19; etc.). In other words, after initial salvation we must endure to the end to enter the kingdom of God and escape eternal torment in the lake of fire (Mt. 10:22; Heb. 3:14; Rev. 2:10,11). Eternal life comes to the repentant the moment such believe on Jesus for salvation (Jn. 3:16; 6:47; 1 Jn. 5:12,13), but there is another important aspect of eternal life that many are totally unaware of in our day because of the false teaching and doctrine of demons of eternal security. According to true grace teaching, eternal life is also a hope (Titus 3:7), yet to be reaped (Gal. 6:8,9) in the age to come (Mk. 10:30) for only the ones who persist in doing good (Rom. 2:7) and do not grow weary and give up (Gal. 6:9).
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If a saved person sows to please his sinful nature (flesh) he’ll die spiritually (Rom. 8:13; Gal. 6:8,9; James 5:19,20). The prodigal is a clear example of this (Lk. 15:24,32). Spiritual death can occur to a Christian, so do not be deceived (James 1:14-16)! You can be sure that a righteous person will die spiritually if he turns to evil (Ezek. 18:24; 33:18; etc.).
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Jesus is not nice.  The Son of God is everything His Father is, and He has been appointed the Judge of all men, living and dead.  He is not going to be nice on that Day.  He will be loving toward His own.  He will be gracious and merciful when He chooses and for His glory.  But He will not be nice.  EVERY deed, EVERY word will be judged.
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Most of what we tend to encounter in film, radio, books, magazines under the term “Romance – Love” are merely seductive evil spirits, and the lust of the decaying flesh.) Surprising Insights -Romantic fiction: the female equivalent of porn?  Just as it is morally wrong for a man to develop an appetite for women other than his wife by exposing himself to porn, so it is wrong for a wife to expose herself to romantic fiction, because it could stimulate dissatisfaction with her husband. The  amazing similarities between women viewing or reading romantic fiction (soap operas, movies and romance novels, etc) and men viewing soft porn.Few of those engaged in either activity see any harm in it. They think they can have a little fantasy and a little pleasure without it weakening their real life relationships. It’s so easy to excuse enjoying romantic fiction, just as it’s easy for men to excuse appreciating female flesh. Both erotica and romantic fiction create images of, and create a longing for, things that no normal partner could ever match, with the result that both sexes end up wishing their partners were more like those portrayed on the screen. With porn, lighting, making up, poses, photo touch-ups (even plastic surgery) and so on mean that even beautiful women cannot compete. In addition, men become addicted to variety. Romantic novels, films etc. are equally artificial and impossible for any normal man to get anywhere near equaling. Novelists and script writers devote enormous effort to getting the man saying the perfect thing in just the right romantic setting. They are experts in knowing what appeals to women, like those involved in the porn industry are experts in knowing what appeals to men. In real life situations not even the writers themselves could equal the charm of their fictional characters. Normal conversation, for instance, would not allow them enough time to get their lines right. Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. II Pet. 1:4

Since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him. Isa. 64:4

“Romantic Fiction and Christians- The Hidden Enemy  http://net-burst.net/help/fiction.htm

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Did you also know these truths…

HOLY SPIRIT (6)

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Jeremiah 17:5 Thus smith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trustethi n man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
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What the Bible says about cheating lying, stealing, abuse.
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These are all Biblical, great devotional links, great truths..
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PEOPLE WHO DISOBEYED GOD IN THE BIBLE
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Concerning the basics of Christianity..
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Now the Holy Spirit is gentle but he will still tell you the truth..
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How do you recognize if a person is a true Christian, or what is a Christian? “
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PRAY, ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO REVEAL THE BIBLE TRUTHS;
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Don’t go along with the  crowd .. I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses
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Shalom
Israel is not God’s country.
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For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie
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God Doesn’t Want Your Sacrifices , He Wants Your Obedience!    https://wittnessed.wordpress.com/2013/11/27/god-doesnt-want-your-sacrifices-he-wants-your-obedience/
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A true or false prophet?
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Yeshua is an antiChrist
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BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS, who is it?

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/babylon-the-great-the-mother-of-harlots/

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Who really are the Judaizers? “Judaizers” Those who attempt to make Jews out of the Christians. https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/12/06/who-really-are-the-judaizers/

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Now about the Falsely “Torah-observant” -Jewish and Gentile Messianic Judaism

http://postedat.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/falsely-torah-observant-jewish-and-gentile-messianic-judaism/ .

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The Dangers of the Hebrew Roots Messianic Movement

https://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2012/08/04/the-dangers-of-the-hebrew-roots-messianic-movement/

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MANY JEWS, EVEN MESSIANIC JEWS LIE ABOUT CHRISTIANITY

http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2014/11/18/many-jews-even-messianic-jews-lie-about-christianity/

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A too common approach those interested in dismissing the gospel message of Jesus Christ is falsely trying to discredit personally the gospel messenger and his content and reflects their more eagerness to find supposed faults than to find the truth.. http://jesussayscome.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/son-of-man-is-a-title-that-jesus-used-of-himself/

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The old Testament is not the same as the New
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they are not all angels even IF they make preposterous claims
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They clearly are not what they pretend to be..
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So what about the ten commandments?
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teaching for doctrines the commandments of men
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God does not bless an ungodly nation like Israel
Christians alone now are the chosen people of God
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In the New Testament the emphasis is now solely on the heavenly Jerusalem..
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The New Jerusalem
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there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek:
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the New Covenant is not a continuation of the old TESTAMENT
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The problem even with the Messianic Jews is..
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So what is the future hope of the nation of Israel today?
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Christians are God’s true “Jews” today.
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JEWS IN REALITY ARE NO LONGER GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE
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Clearly the Zionists are still immoral and Unbiblical
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Are you anotherJudiazer, a false Sabbath day worshipper?
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You are a MessiancJew? You need to be saved still
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The 2 Promised Returns of Jews to Israel?
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Zionism, Zionists, Jews, Israel
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TheZionisticliars..
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True facts about the FALSE Dispensationalists

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Now when one becomes a Zionist, a cult, he thus undeniably leaves behind whatever God-driven faith he may have had before. Angry Evangelicals the churchgoers who become Zionists, tend to be all hostile too hostile. The many self-identified Messianic Jews tend to be even more vociferous in their outrage. As many are exposing the unchristian nature of their war making for Israel. But not all Jews support Israel’s war making, endorsement of the theft of Palestinian land, and the occupation of 4 million people.. Evangelicals need to reexamine their behavior as they never use Jesus ‘s words in their arguments not surprisingly.. Zionism is a political movement and a business for the Israelis. And when they hear that Zionism is being exposed and discredited, it results in massive hostility toward the others. Christian Zionism is a mental disease. A full blown case leaves almost no room for debate with logic or facts. Christian Zionists act in a very un-Christ like way in their treatment of people who do not go along with them. Most Christian Zionist pastors usually put Israel ahead of Jesus. Real Christians rightfully do challenge all the false claims of a historical connection between the tribe of Abraham 3000 years ago and the political state of Israel today. Israel’s land rights claim to the promised land , the Land of the Philistines results only from Christian Zionism’s alterations of the Old Testament books, by which they have cast God into the role of a real estate agent passing out perpetual title to the Middle East The traditional Protestant churches are plenty large and influential enough to constitute a fatal threat to Christian Zionism. If the churches founded on the teaching of Reformers reawaken and expose it to their members, all will be over for Israel’s broad grass roots support in the USA. Now the only verses referenced or quoted are from the Old Testament. This is no surprise for the New Testament has much to say in direct response to the many false doctrines of Christian Zionism. Christian Zionist is not Christianity, because Jesus is left outside. It is time to expose Christian Zionism as a war cult, and explain to the entire Christian community that there is not a grain of Christ-following At the very root of the war problem are churches that will not stand for peace.

The Evangelicals biggest errors, faults are-
1: They tend to falsely make man, Jews as the center of the Universe and not Jesus Christ
2: They are Holy Spirit ignorant clearly, do not understand the work, person of the Holy Spirit
3: They support the false Dispensation theology, Zionism, are a cult
4: they are New Testament ignorant

One of their biggest errors ever when dealing with the future of Israel is this idea that Gog and Magog is Russia and Germany from Ezekiel 38-39. On the contrary it has nothing whatsoever to do with either, nor does it have anything to do with Israel either past, present or future all due to an unbelievable error of biblical interpretation!!! They needs to seriously wake up and gets its interpretation of scripture correct.
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Dispensationalists believe that the Jews are God’s special Chosen People who do NOT need to believe in Jesus Christ in order to be saved, but instead will be saved purely by their race. They also support the slaughter of the Palestinians by the Jews so the land can be confiscated completely by Israel making way for the Jews to rebuild the Third Temple on the Temple mount in Jerusalem, facilitating, or so they incorrectly believe, the hastening of the Second Coming of Christ. They also endorse the destruction of all enemies of the Jews, including the Iraqis, the Iranians, the Lebanese, the Syrians, etc., because they have been deceived into believing that God will bless those who bless the Jews, no matter how murderous, wicked, and Anti-Christ is the behavior of Israel and the Jews. But the fact is, it is impossible to be a true Christian while supporting the murderous acts of Israel and the Jewish leaders. Those who claim to be “Christian” while supporting Israeli and Jewish Anti-Christ policies have naively given their allegiance to Satan. God is not interested in ethnicity, gender, or whether a person is a slave or free. He is “no respecter of persons.” He has no caste system. He is only interested in whether we have learned to trust Him or not. Are we a Believer in the One True God, or are we an Unbeliever? .

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Galatians, Chapter 3, tells us clearly that the “seed (offspring) of Abraham” is Christ – and also HIS followers. 6 Even as Abraham believed (had faith in) God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness7 Know ye therefore that they that are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen (nations) through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying In thee shall all nations be blessed9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is everyone that continues not in all things that are written in the book of the law to do them.11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith (by believing that God WILL do ALL He has promised to do).12 And the law is not of faith: but, the man that doeth them shall live in them.13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is everyone that hangs on a tree.14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the “Gentiles” (heathen – nations – Unbelievers) through Jesus Christ that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith (belief).15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s testament (covenant), yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one,And to thy seed, which is Christ.17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law that was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.19 What therefore is the purpose of the law? It was ADDED because of transgressions, till the seed (Jesus Christ) should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given that could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.22 But the scripture has concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.26 For ye are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. (This is eonian life!)28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.29 And if ye be Christ’s then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. The “seed” of Abraham is CHRIST and His followers – the true Christians – the true “Israel” – NOT the Jews! .

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The religion of the Israelites in the Old Testament was/is Christianity! Jesus, Himself, said so. “You search the Scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal (eonian) life; but they are they which testify of Me. John 5:39 The Old Testament is about Christ – NOT about Israel! Therefore, the religion of the Old Testament is/was – – – Christianity! . The rejection of truth by the leaders of the Israelites had thrown them into such profound darkness that they could no longer even discern truth. Instead, they rejected truth and “believed a lie” and murdered God/Jesus Christ. “Because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2 Thessalonians 2:10,11 And the Pharisees, Sadducees and their followers in the Organized Church of the day, committed a cosmic crime by murdering God! Jesus Christ is/was God – in human form. “And they shall call His (Jesus’) name Emmanuel, meaning GOD with us.” (Matthew 1:23) The Old Testament is about Christ – NOT about Israel! Therefore, the religion of the Old Testament is/was – – – Christianity! .

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WHERE did Judaism come from and WHEN did it begin? The true Christianity of the Israelites was slowly subverted by an underground current of the spiritual ancestors of the Pharisees. This covert corruption began with the worship of the golden calf in the wilderness, then continued with the worship of the pagan god Baal, and then grew to include child sacrifice through the fire to the pagan god Molech. . The growth of this undercurrent of evil among the Israelites can be documented throughout the entire Old Testament. Moses chastised the Israelites when they turned their back on God. Joshua also warned them. During Samuel’s time, the Israelites demanded a king to rule them “as the other nations” had rather than allowing God to be their King. The prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah were later sent to warn the Israelites of their apostasy. . God showed Ezekiel the abominations secretly going on in Israel. (Ezekiel 8:5-17) Then said He (God) unto me (Ezekiel), Son of man, lift up your eyes, and look toward the north. So I lifted up my eyes toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar is the image of jealousy in the entrance.He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, do you see what they do? Even the great abominations that the house of Israel commits here, that I should go far off from My sanctuary? But turn again, and you shall see greater abominations. And He brought me to the door of the court (of the temple): and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall. Then He said unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged  the wall, behold a door And He said unto me, Go in and behold the wicked abominations that they do here. So I went in and saw: and behold every form of creeping things (insects) and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, carved on the walls round about. And there stood before them seventy men of the elders of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up. (The leaders of Israel were secretly worshipping beasts and creeping things as did the pagan Egyptians.)Then said He unto me, Son of man, have you seen what the elders of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the room of his idols? For they say, The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land. He said also unto me, Turn yet again, and you shall see greater abominations that they do. Then He brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord’s house which was toward the north; and behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz (A Sumerian fertility god)Then said He unto me, Have you seen this, O son of man? Turn yet again and you shall see greater abominations than these. And He brought me into the inner court of the Lord’s house, and behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. Then He said unto me, Have you seen this, O son of man? Is it a trivial thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? For they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke Me to anger . . .

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Here Ezekiel documents this evil undercurrent that was corrupting the true Christianity of the Israelites. The leaders of the Temple were worshiping idols, beasts and creeping things, the Sumerian fertility god, Tammuz, and they were worshiping the pagan sun god in secret! . When God raised up prophets to rebuke Israel for their waywardness, the prophets were ignored, imprisoned or stoned to death. Eventually, the Israelites were taken captive by Babylon because of their apostasy. . Finally, Jesus, the Messiah, came but this wicked undercurrent had taken hold in such a strong way that the Pharisees and the Sadducees had become so arrogant and self-righteous that they accused Jesus of being a demon-controlled imposter. Jesus rebuked the leaders for bringing false doctrines into the beliefs of the Christian Israelites by promoting traditions that “made the commandments of God of none effect.” “Thus you have made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Matthew 15:6And He (Jesus) said unto them (the Pharisees), Full well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition. Mark 7:9 . Once they had rejected and killed the Messiah, Jesus Christ, they fell into even deeper darkness. In A.D. 70, Jerusalem and the temple in it were destroyed. Many of the Pharisees ended up in Babylon where these abominable oral “traditions of the elders” were committed to writing and became known as the Babylonian Talmud, the “holiest” book of Judaism. This evil undercurrent that had been smoldering for hundreds of years had now taken over completely, and a new occult religion was born – the religion of Judaism. . THESE were the originators of Judaism – the religion of Anti-Christ! . Then what does the term “Judeo-Christian” mean? .

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The term “Judeo-Christian” is an oxymoron, the combining of two words defining two diametrically opposing systems of belief. It’s similar to using the term “blackish-white” or cloning a human being combined with a beast. The authors of Judaism were the Pharisees – the murderers of Christ! The values of Judaism are violently opposed to the values of Christianity as will be shown by quotes from their “holiest” book, the Talmud, including the Talmudic quotes that calls for theft from, lying to, and murdering of Christians – by the Jews. The term “Judeo-Christian” is a farce, total nonsense, and an abominable lie. It has been foisted on, and embraced by, almost all who refer to themselves as “Christians.” But how can they call themselves Christians when they are essentially worshiping the followers of Judaism who ridicule, curse and denounce Jesus Christ? .

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For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
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Do you have amnesia or you in denial?
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the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch
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God wants you to go to Church too
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God Doesn’t Want Your Sacrifices , He Wants Your Obedience!
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Preaching the truth is not the same as living it..
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The power in the name of Jesus;
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Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. To have it put aside.
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Staying in-tune with God
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Demons often sit in people’s minds even today https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/demons-often-sit-in-peoples-minds-even-today/

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are you not still carnal?

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/are-you-not-still-carnal/

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Sin is sequential
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Holiness
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Will you even make it to heaven?
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Have you really died to self? and where does it show?
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Jesus Christ is God
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Watch out for the liars
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Most people do take isolated verse and twist them;
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about the slave driver, holy spirit hater
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Where should we worship God?
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If you wish to go to Paradise
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Proud in heart ?
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ALL DOCTRINES HAVE TO BE STUDIED BY THE HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
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signs of the end times..
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in end-time prophecies America is not specifically named

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/in-end-time-prophecies-america-is-not-specifically-named/

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Are you looking forward to a war next where millions of Jews may wind up dead?

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/are-you-looking-foward-to-a-war-next-where-millions-of-jews-may-wind-up-dead/

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There is a very dangerous person that we should be aware of
 
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Islam, Muslims, and the reality
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Even Mormons, are the still lost souls
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Are you a false Watchtower slave?
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Are you JW for real?
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Messianic Jews, Judaizers, Seventh day Adventist have many false teachings in common
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Spiritual Abuse by theso calledChristian leaders
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About those hirelings now fleecing the sheep
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IS HE A SHEPHERD OR A THIEF?
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How to handle divorce

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/how-to-handle-divorce

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what the Bible actually says on Tithing

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/what-the-bible-actually-says-on-tithing

https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/tithing-2/

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Christian posters, wallpapers

http://freebestposters.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/in-the-begining/

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A WORD TO THE WISE

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It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools Eccl 7:5
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Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
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Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
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Titus 2″15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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2 Peter 2″16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voiceforbadthe madness of the prophet.
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(Prov 27:6 KJV) Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
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I am surprised, rather shocked as to how many people even Christian ones do think we should be nice, and kind to the bad persons and still.. nothing doing! Especially to the bad TV evangelists, bad preachers who get drunk, commit adultery, steal, and any bad preacher. They in love should be rebuked rather
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All really bad people in love even should be in jail rather.. otherwise they will never learn to do good.. such is real life.. if people do not experience real negative consequences they tend not to change for the better
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Revelation 2 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place
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Matthew 7: 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven., except thou repent.
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2 Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, :18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord
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(Prov 24:25 KJV) But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them
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Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. :12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. 14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou thatsleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. 15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. 18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; :19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; 20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; 21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
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(Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
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(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
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(Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
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(Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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(1 Chr 12:17 KJV) And David went out to meet them, and answered and said unto them, If ye be come peaceably unto me to help me, mine heart shall be knit unto you: but if ye be come to betray me to mine enemies, seeing there is no wrong in mine hands, the God of our fathers look thereon, and rebuke it.
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(Isa 30:17 KJV) One thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one; at the rebuke of five shall ye flee: till ye be left as a beacon upon the top of a mountain, and as an ensign onan hill.
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“Who is a liar but he thatdenieththat Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, thatdenieththe Father and the Son.” – I John 2:22
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Zionism and Judaism is still from the pits of hell, Judaism it is an obsolete religion replaced by Christianity
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(Psa76:6 KJV) At thy rebuke, O God of Jacob, both the chariot and horse are cast into a dead sleep.
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(Psa80:16 KJV) It is burned with fire, it is cut down: they perish at the rebuke of thy countenance.
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(Psa104:7 KJV) At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
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Now to me it only makes sense that the New Testament was written in Greek. Think of who Paul was: the “Apostle to the Gentiles”. Obviously he was writing to Greek speaking people, so he would write to them in Greek. There are more reasons, but this is an obvious one. I have run into a new reason why some people dispute the notion that Jesus spoke Aramaic. It has to do with the passion among some Muslims for an Aramaic-speaking Jesus. Aramaic is a Semitic language, related to Hebrew, Arabic, and similar languages. Only during the time of the Assyrian Empire (8th century BC), Aramaic became used throughout the Ancient Near East as the language of diplomacy not at the time of Jesus here on earth During and before the time of Jesus, there wasn’t just one version of Aramaic being used in Judea and beyond. Even many grave inscriptions around Jerusalem at the time of Jesus are not in Aramaic, not in Hebrew but in Greek.. Muslims falsely use the idea that Jesus spoke Aramaic as a support for the truth of Islam.
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Jews falsely use the idea that Jesus spoke Hebrew as a support for the truth of Judaism A few scholars believe that people in Nazareth spoke Hebrew as their primary language. This is possible, but unlikely. Unfortunately, many of those who make the case for a Hebrew-speaking Jesus seem to be motivated by something other than a desire to know which language(s) he actually spoke.) So what evidence do we have that Jesus spoke Hebrew? We do not have in the New Testament Gospels a quotation of Jesus in Hebrew As one who believes about Jesus all the things orthodox Christians do, it would not impact my faith one jot or tittle if Jesus spoke Hebrew rather than Aramaic, or Greek rather than Hebrew.but the truth is Jesus spoke Greek still..Now, you don’t have to spend the next several years learning ancient languages because English KJV translation of the biblical text is very much reliable it was based on the Tyndale translation of the Greek too..The question of Jesus’ primary language is settled if weknewwhat people in Nazareth in the first decades of the first century A.D. were speaking and the Romans made it clear.. Greek or Latin only.. and we have no evidence for the common use of Hebrew in Nazareth and the surrounding region of Galilee.it is worth nothing that Greek was commonly used in certain strata of Galilean society. This began when Alexander the Great conquered the region in 332 B.C. Under his rule, and under the rule of those who followed him (the Ptolemies and the Seleucids), Greek was the language of government and commerce. The Romans used Latin for official communication, but Greek was the common language of the Empire. In fact, Nazareth was a short walk fromSepphoris, one of the major cities of Galilee, where Greek would have been the everyday language of the marketplace.The earliest manuscripts of the New Testament Gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John – are written in Greek.
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Yes there is overwhelming evidence, both historical and linguistic that shows that the New testament texts were never originally written in Hebrew, as some Jews claim but they are known liars.. Show us this original Hebrew transcript of Matthew.. none exists..None.. all is in Greek.. and scholars have not found a single manuscript in Aramaic or Hebrew that predates the Greek Not one.. The New Testament, however, was written in Greek. This seems strange, since you might think it would be either Hebrew or Aramaic. However, Greek was the language of scholarship during the years of the composition of the New Testament from 50 to 100 AD. The fact is that many Jews could not even read Hebrew anymore, and this disturbed the Jewish leaders a lot! So, around 300 BC a translation of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Greek was undertaken, and it was completed around 200 BC.
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Gradually this Greek translation of the Old Testament, called the Septuagint, was widely accepted and was even used in many synagogues. It also became a wonderful missionary tool for the early Christians, for now the Greeks could read God’s Word in their own tongue. So again the New Testament authors wrote in Greek. They did not, however, use really high-class or classical Greek, but a very common and everyday type of Greek. For many years some scholars ridiculed the Greek of the New Testament because many of its words were strange to those who read the writings of the great Greek classical authors such as Plato and Aristotle. But later many records were uncovered of ordinary people, and amazingly there were the same common terms used in everyday speech! The ridicule dried up accordingly. The prominent first century Roman historian Josephus was a Jew himself who wrote in Greek.. it should be understood that there is a long history of “Hellenism” (Greek culture/influence) among the Jewish people, both in ancient Alexandria as well as in the Promised Land itself.Ossuariesdating from the Second Temple period indicate Greek artwork and Greek versions of Hebrew names In Biblical Archaeological Review , Pieter W. Van Der Horst writes, “One of the most surprising facts about funerary inscriptions [extant from ancient Palestine dating from 300 B.C. to 500 A.D] is that most of them are in Greek – approximately 70 percent; about 12 percent are in Latin; and only 18 percent are in Hebrew or Aramaic.” Furthermore, since the time of Alexander the Great (c. 330 B.C), many of the Jewish High Priests had become Hellenists ; which led to the rejection of the Temple by theEsseneCommunity and eventually to the later Maccabean revolts.
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Even the Dead Sea Scrolls include Greek texts among the Hebrew and Aramaic. ; So it’s clear that Hellenistic culture and Greek language were pervasive influences in Israel both before, during, and after the time when Jesus lived in ancient Israel and scholars have not found a single manuscript in Aramaic or Hebrew that predates the Greek all of the ancient textual evidence for the New Testament is in Koine Greek, and scholars have not found a single manuscript in Aramaic or Hebrew that predates the Greek.
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The New Testament is by far the best-attested (and best preserved) literature of antiquity, with manuscript evidence dating back to the first century. ; For example, the Magdalen Fragments are written in a style of Koine Greek that was current in the 1st Century A.D. during the very lives of the apostles. Indeed, ancient papyrus expertCarstenThiedeand other scholars regard certain fragments from the Gospel of Matthew to be an eyewitness account. We have some anecdotal evidence of a gospel that underlies the others gospel accounts, but it is clear — both from history and from the textual evidence we have – that the Holy Spirit chose to use Koine (i.e., “common”) Greek as the language to reach out to the world. This is true, incidentally, of the Torah andNakh, which were also translated into Koine Greek (i.e., the Septuagint, or LXX). Many of the oldest Biblical fragments among the Dead Sea Scrolls correspond more closely with the LXX than with the (later) Masoretic text, and indeed we have evidence of Koine Greek manuscripts that were discovered in the Qumran caves themselves…
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Now when Jesus went into the synagogue and was handed the scroll of Isaiahthat thatscroll was written in Greek?and the the New Testament Gospels do include non-Greek words in the text (spelled with Greek letters). And some of these words are Aramaic ?So, while Jesus’ use of them may reflect his Aramaic speech, we can’t even be 100% sure of this. And we do not have in the New Testament Gospels a quotation of Jesus in Hebrew ..
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Unfortunately, many of those who make the case for a Hebrew-speaking Jesus seem to be motivated by something other than a desire to know which language(s) he actually spoke.) The so-called “biblical case” for the Hebrew speaking Jesus rests mainly on one verse in, not in the Gospels, but in Acts of the Apostles. You absurdilycannot make a major statement with one fact, one verse.. when you have a whole Greek New testament.. one cannot use this as proof that he always spoke Hebrew, or mainly spoke Hebrew, or even spoke Hebrew in any other circumstance. In no other place does the New Testament tell us that Jesus spoke Hebrew. The fact that the Gospels are written in Greek shows that most of the earliest Christians, including some who followed Jesus during his earthly ministry, knew Greek and used it often, perhaps as their first language. Many Jewish writings from the era of Jesus were written in Greek, including works such as 2 Maccabees and 1 Esdras. Other Hebrew writings were being translated into Greek in Jerusalem (the book of Esther, for example, in 114 B.C.). Speaking of Jerusalem, scholars have found some ninety Greek inscriptions onossuaries(boxes for bones) that date to around the time of Jesus and were found in or around Jerusalem.
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Ever since Alexander the Great conquered Judea in 332 B.C., Greek had been the language of government and, increasingly, commerce and scholarship. Though Aramaic continued to be spoken by many, Greek grew in its popularity and influence. In the time of Jesus, well-educated Jews, mainly those of the upper classes, would have known and used Greek. So would those who were involved in trade or government Get wise and learn the truth. Jesus was not handed the dead sea scrolls.. he read from the Greek Scroll Bible. The presence and pervasiveness of Greek in Judea is demonstrated by a discovery in theNahalHever region of the Judean Desert near the Dead Sea. In a cave, a scroll was found that contains substantial portions of the minor prophets in Greek. The so-calledNahalHever Minor Prophets Scroll, dated around the time of Jesus, shows the influence and popularity of Greek, even among highly religious Jew..
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In Matthew 8:5-13, for example, Jesus entered into dialogue with a Roman centurion. The centurion almost certainly spoke in Greek. And, as Matthew tells the story, he and Jesus spoke directly, without a translator. The same could be said about Jesus’ conversation with Pontius Pilate prior to his crucifixion (Matthew 27:11-14; John 18:33-38). If Jesus knew enough Greek to converse with a Roman centurion and a Roman governor, where did he learn it? at Home and in school.. Jesus’ hometown was a short walk fromSepphoris, which was a major city and one in which Greek was spoken.
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Christianity is a new Religion that is not an updated Judaism, or a revised Judaism.. Most Messianic Jews too now are also still going to hell.. and they are firstly not willing to give up all to follow Jesus . For some Jesus must have spoken Hebrew to some people, otherwise somehow his mission as the Messiah would have been deficient. Some were worried that if Jesus spoke Greek he did not care for the Jews basically.. No one even knows what the Jewish Culture was like at the time of Jesus since the Romans burned all the Jewish books and Library and none exist today thus.. People who are hung up on a Jewish scripture still need the Holy Spirit to explain it anyway and most people do not have him, Jews especially.. .Read my posts and learn.. and stop trying to justify your perversions of the reality.. There is no existing evidence of a Hebrew Gospel of Matthew.. never has been . Why are they falsely so argumentative and hung up on a Hebrew Jesus? when most of the Jews have rejected him anyway and are mostly going to hell..
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Read my posts and learn.. and stop trying to justify your perversions of the reality.. There is no existing evidence of a Hebrew Gospel of Matthew.. never has been and anyone has yet had failed to prove it too.. The fact that Jesus may have spoken Greek may help us to think differently about him and his ministry. For many years it was common to envision Jesus as growing up in the countryside of Galilee, far removed from multi-cultural hodge-podge of the Roman Empire. But this idealized view of the rustic Jesus is far from the truth. Though he grew up in a small town, he was not at all cut off from the broader Roman world. In fact Jesus grew up with ample exposure to Greco-Roman language, culture, commerce, politics, religion, and philosophy. When he eventually entered Jerusalem to confront the Roman and Jewish authorities there – and to give his life in the process – Jesus was no naive country bumpkin making his first trip to the big city. Rather he was well aware of powers and perils he faced, and he faced these knowing, as he ultimately said to Pontius Pilate (in Greek, I believe), “My kingdom is not from this world” (John 18:36). Given the Holy Spirit, not just excellence of English translations of the Bible by translators who have mastered all of the relevant languages, it’s not necessary for the ordinary Christian to learn Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic in order to understand the teaching of Jesus .and his teachings.. In fact too many Hebrew , Aramaic and Greek speaking persons are still very ungodly persons
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CORRUPTIONS, ABORTION, SINS, adultery, divorce, fraud, ETC

NAME OF JESUS

The Person who is overly concerned with security, locking his doors tightly,  as he or she is too often is afraid to get robbed,  cause God does not protect him or his resources, likely himself is a thief, robber, embezzler, con artist, fraudster,  liar, etc, while  the honest person tends not to be  worried about   his doors being unlocked cause God is his protector, security.

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READ THE BIBLE AND GET YOUR MORALITY STRAIGHT FROM GOD AND NOT FROM THE DEMONS FROM THE PITS OF HELL and THUS walk straight TOO NEXT..

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God still does hates even Cheating, lying, stealing, Abortion, Adultery, Homosexuality, Divorce and such sins still get punished too  ..

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Why the ONGOING  obsesses ions with SINS,  political CORRUPTIONS, ABORTION, adultery, divorce,  fraud, ETC.?

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Jesus himself will not let it go…. he exposes and punishes still too.. Matthew 10: 27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

Luke 12: 3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

“And calling the crowd to him with his disciples, he said to them, ‘If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel’s will save it’” (Mark 8: 34-35).

“Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace” (Rom. 6:12-14).

“And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires” (Gal. 5:24).

1 John 2:15 KJV) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

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Sharing what God’s Word says about morality and immorality is a loving act.

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Also now determining what constitutes a loving act depends on first knowing what is true. The Bible is the sole truth we can rely on still too..

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Now about the Lying, thieving, alcoholic, abusive persons, priests, pastors, Ministers, Leaders, Presidents, premiers, prime Ministers, Police who cannot even change themselves for the good are of no use to anyone as well. I too do rightfully do not have to accept any of those lying hypocrites, false teachers and false prophets .

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People in leadership office do have to face higher penalties as an example now too. It is clearly established, accepted fact by most people that those in leadership civil and public servants cops, teachers, ministers, politicians included are always to be exemplary in behavior, conduct and they do need to maintain their high standards even out of their working hours, thus to do so they are also to be exemplary judged, prosecuted for their own wrong doings with a higher standard over those of us ordinary folks.

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Many Christians believe that abortion is wrong, because of their belief that the act of abortion is murdering an unborn baby. While people argue the point of conception and the viability of a fetus, there is no doubt that the Bible does condemn the taking of another person’s life see Genesis 9:5 – “Murder is forbidden.” (NLT) AND the people who are pro-choice because they believe that they have the ultimate say over what happens to their bodies. However, the Bible says that God has the ultimate say. He is in control of your body, because your body is God’s temple. Others argue that God gave us free will, thus allowing us to make a choice with our bodies. However, free will does not always mean we are free from sin. Whether you believe abortion is a sin or not, it is still biblical to care for our bodies. 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 – “Don’t you realize that all of you together are the Temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in You. God will bring ruin to anyone who ruins this temple. For God’s temple is holy, and you Christians are that temple.” (NLT)

1 Corinthians 6:12-13 – “You may say ‘I am allowed to do anything.’ But I reply, ‘Not everything is good for you.’ And even though ‘I am allowed to do anything,” I must not become a slave to anything…But our bodies were not made for sexual immorality. They were made for the Lord, and the Lord cares about our bodies.” (NLT)

see also http://www.bible.ca/s-Abortion.htm

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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 – “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (NIV).
Leviticus 18:22 – “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.” (NIV) Leviticus 20:13 – “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” (NIV)

 

Rom. 1:26-28, “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.”
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Homosexuality is clearly condemned in the Bible.  But, it also goes against the created order of God who made Adam, a man, and Eve, a woman — not two men, not two women — to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth (Gen. 1:28).
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Unlike other sins, homosexuality has a heavy judgment administered by God Himself upon those who commit it – and support it. This judgment is simple in that those who practice it are given over to their passions – which means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins.
“For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error,” (Rom. 1:26-27).
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As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing.  They will not seek forgiveness.  They will die in their sins.  They will face God’s holy condemnation.  But, that isn’t all.  In addition to the judgment of being given over to their sin, those involved in it also promote it and condemn others who don’t approve of their behavior.
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Sin is sin and the forgiveness of our sins is found in Christ alone and not in the false approval of any others.. . Homosexuality, Adultery, Divorce too now are not a special practice that is exempt from God’s righteous judgment simply because they claim they are born that way, or just want to be free to love, or say that it is normal. People are born with a tendency to lie. Does that make it okay? People want to love each other, but since when is “love” the determiner of what is right and wrong? If homosexuality is normal, then why is it practiced by so few? The great majority of people are heterosexual. The only hope for the homosexual, and all people who break God’s laws, is to realize that God is holy and he will rightfully judge all who have sinned against him by breaking his law (1 Kings 8:32; Ps. 9:8; 1 John 3:4). If he did not do this, then he would be approving of wrong doing. However, God is loving (1 John 4:8) patient (Rom. 2:4), wanting people to repent (Acts 17:30) and come a saving knowledge of him so they might be redeemed. What this means is that the sinner must turn to Christ, who is God the Son in flesh (John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9), who bore our sins in his body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24), died and rose from the dead (1 Cor. 15:1-4), and made it possible for sinners to be saved from the righteous judgment of God by faith in what Jesus did on our behalf (2 Cor. 5:21) and be forgiven of their sins (Eph. 2:8). This is done receiving Christ (John 1:12), by believing in him and his sacrifice that is a payment for our sins to God the Father. Like any sinner, the homosexual needs to repent, receive Christ by faith, and be saved from God’s righteous judgment by trusting in Christ and the judgment that fell upon him on the cross. They need to pray and ask the Lord Jesus to save them. Don’t compromise your witness for a socially acceptable opinion that is void of rationality, godliness, and biblical truth. Instead, stand firm in the word that God has revealed
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Christians are often asked by gay activists why they oppose same-sex “marriage.” “How does our marriage hurt you?” they ask. And one significant way it will hurt us: It will destroy religious freedom and free speech rights. Gays wrongfully do not like the Biblical truth about them to be openly shared.. It means that those hostile to our beliefs will attempt to bend us to their will to force us to not only accept gay “marriage,” but to condone it as well.Unacceptable.. You and I must demonstrate love to our gay neighbors, of course, remembering that we are ultimately engaged in spiritual warfare. But we should boldly stand up when our rights as citizens and the demands of our conscience are threatened. Furthere more his year we’ve seen Obama Care attack the autonomy of Catholic churches by attempting to force them, in violation of Catholic teaching, to pay for contraceptives and abortifacients for church employees. And a lesbian employee of a Catholic hospital in New York wrongfully had sued the hospital for denying her partner spousal health benefits. The Economic benefits is what most gays want not just the false approval of the others.
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There is only one true theology regarding homosexuality. Orthodox theologians throughout the history of the church and today hold one singular view on what Scripture teaches on homosexuality. God hates it, opposes it, punishes it.. Everyone should be welcome in our churches, but welcoming sinners—which all of us are—must never involve affirming sins. Those committed to defending God’s wonderful design of male-female human sexuality and offering the hope of the Gospel to homosexual strugglers must not grow weary in their well-doing.

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The normalization of homosexuality, which God calls an abomination, is one of the most immoral acts of our age. Many Christians RIGHTFULLY DO share a concern that false prophets are coming into our churches in sheep’s clothing supporting gays, immoralities, drug usage too..We all come to Christ as sinners in need of God’s grace and mercy, but the church has no business affirming or even appearing to affirm even the supposedly gay believers in their embrace of sin as central to their identities. And no Christian has the right when directly asked what the Bible teaches about homosexuality to answer ambiguously or equivocally, the Bible condemns  gays. It also equally condemns divorce and adultery too…

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No one likes to be confronted with his or her error, and if we cannot judge the others how would Christians be alerted to the false prophets or heresies in the church? Should any Christian be prohibited from critiquing the bad acts, bad works of others .No!

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Do we even have to filly “earn the right” by personal experience to identify porn use, adultery, fornication, incest, drunkenness, homosexuality or gossip as sins? Of Course Not. The Bible defines them as undeniable sins. It is, indeed, the Holy Spirit’s job to convict, but it is the job of Christians, particularly Christian leaders, to teach what God’s Word says in its entirety, which includes teaching about what constitutes sinful behavior. Articulating what the Bible teaches about homosexuality no more constitutes unscriptural judging than does articulating what the Bible teaches about lying, stealing, idolatry, blasphemy, or adultery.
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“And calling the crowd to him with his disciples, he said to them, ‘If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel’s will save it’” (Mark 8: 34-35).

“Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace” (Rom. 6:12-14).

“And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires” (Gal. 5:24).

“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come” (II Cor. 5:17).

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For 2 thousands of years the Christian Church undeniably consistently has not supported, gays, Lesbians.. Read what the Bible says for yourself firsthand  and now what others tell you what the Bible says..
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Now Even US president Obama lies when he says he is a real Christian.. He is not, he is a Muslim supporter rather, a pervert, a false  gay supporter too.. and undeniable too.. I guess some of  this really troubles some of you and you you cannot sleep over it, well denial will not make it better for anyone now too
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Hollywood values are characterized by decadence, narcissism, rampant drug use, extramarital sex leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted disease, abortion, lawlessness and the promotion of the homosexual agenda. Such values have a very negative influence on the life of individuals, and very often lead to death.  A 2006 poll by MSNBC said that 60% of Americans agree that “Hollywood’s values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.” The lack of morals and values in Hollywood culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family. Hollywood values are deadly. Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.http://www.conservapedia.com/Hollywood_values

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Song of Solomon

 

My Beloved is mine and I am his. (Song of Solomon, 2:16). Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine. (Solomon 1:2). She shall be brought unto the King in raiment of needlework: the virgins her companions that follow her shall be brought unto thee (Psalms 45:14)

Song of Solomon

a: The Song of Solomon is a dialogue which   according to some includes 5 different sets of speakers…

(1) The Shulammite woman (Song 1:2-4a, 1:4c-7, 1:12-14, 1:16-2:1, 2:3-13, 2:15-3:11, 4:16, 5:2-8, 5:10-16, 6:2-3, 6:11-12, 7:9b-8:4, 8:5b-7, 8:10-12, 8:14),

(2) Friends of the Shulammite (Daughters of Jerusalem) (Song 1:4b, 1:8, 1:11, 5:9, 6:1, 6:10, 6:13a, 8:5a)

(3) King Solomon 

(4) God (Song 5:1e “Eat friends, drink and imbibe deeply O lovers”)

(5) Shulammite’s brothers (Song 8:8-9)

The love of a King for a young maiden

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b: The Song of Solomon is a dialogue which   according to others  includes 6 different sets of speakers…

(1) The Shulammite woman (Song 1:2-4a, 1:4c-7, 1:12-14, 1:16-2:1, 2:3-13, 2:15-3:11, 4:16, 5:2-8, 5:10-16, 6:2-3, 6:11-12, 7:9b-8:4, 8:5b-7, 8:10-12, 8:14),

(2) Friends of the Shulammite (Daughters of Jerusalem) (Song 1:4b, 1:8, 1:11, 5:9, 6:1, 6:10, 6:13a, 8:5a)  – back sliding Christians whose advice is faulty

(3) The old King Solomon – the tempter, seducer  where Solomon seems to try to love many women..

(4) The SHEPHERD – Jesus Christ

(5 God (Song 5:1e “Eat friends, drink and imbibe deeply O lovers”)

(6) Shulammite’s brothers (Song 8:8-9)

The attempted seduction of a tempted young maiden by an old king

Traditional, conservative Bible expositors tend to support a:

But are they always right or do they rarely even agree with each other?

I know that to some persons it may be flattering to a debauched king, rather then a King in waiting Jesus Christ.. the second interpretation is also more consistent with the Historical rather unwise King Solomon who was a known womanizer, who had a big harem and many ungodly wives as well.
  
The song of songs which is Solomon’s…  the Bible’s most beautiful poetical work, the Song of Solomon portrays the heart longing, devotion and love between a shepherd lover and a poor maiden. And, the old testament allusions help us to see more than an ancient romance; we see a fitting representation of God’s, Jesus’s expectancy and longing to be completely united with His people while the old  world, the old flesh and the old devil try to lead them astray
 

Note: The phrase “do not arouse or awaken love” is used three times in the Song of Solomon! As the sexual tension builds up between them, the man exercises his character and “puts the brakes on”, so to speak. Restraint during dating and courtship proves and demonstrates the character necessary for marriage!

Looking at this subject of sex  as found often on the TV or  as preached by so called pastors, I cannot help but think that they are all sex starved well bred stallions in heat..

New International Version (©1984) Jeremiah 5:8  They are well-fed, lusty stallions, each neighing for another man’s wife.

New International Version (©1984) “You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife. You shall not set your desire on your neighbor’s house or land, his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
 
New American Standard Bible (©1995) because they have acted foolishly in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbors’ wives and have spoken words in My name falsely, which I did not command them; and I am He who knows and am a witness,” declares the LORD

 

King James Bible But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness, and tempted God in the desert.

 

Ezekiel 23:5 Amplified Bible (AMP) And Aholah played the harlot when she was Mine, and she was foolishly fond of her lovers and doted on the Assyrians her neighbors,

 

Ezekiel 23:20  Holman Christian Standard  – and lusted after their lovers, whose sexual members were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of stallions.
 

American King James Version  I will do these things to you, because you have gone a whoring after the heathen, and because you are polluted with their idols.

In case you were no aware of it yet  the Bible clearly implies that adultery is God’s trap, punishment for those who had displeased him.. for adulterly does not bring any lasting happiness, it is a short lived pleasure. 

Some others would still rather say that the spousal realtionships is the most important aspect?
 
The supposedly Important MARRIAGE  Intimacies? SELF CENTERED GOALS?
–  a bond of Spiritual Intimacy… but the FIRST all important relationship is not that  between a husband and wife but that one with  God!  Too often God is neglected and why is that? No excuses here are acceptable.
– Emotional Intimacy… the “heart to heart” connection the intimate couple CRAVED BY EMOTIONAL WOMEN?  and certainly not by men, many men tend to lie to women to make them feel good here..
– Intellectual Intimacy… SEEMS TO BY PASS ANY NEED FOR  LOVE.. Though we allow one another to be unique,  is it important that we share common core values? A truly intimate couple will often even think the same thing? or be led by the same evil spirit? REAL LOVE ACCEPTS A PERSON THE WAY THEY ARE EVEN WITH THE DIFFERENCES.
– Sexual Intimacy or Sexual compatibilty  IS VERY IMPORTANT  too? God has designed a very special physical relationship that draws a husband and wife closer than ever? or a lust that causes them to be tempted by others?  Sexual! This seems to be the biggest goal of may persons sadly. Sex still does not make you happy like Jesus does. Many people who have sex are still unhapy with each other, life too.
 
Most marriages that fail still do fail not due to marital intimacy failures but firstly fail  due to laziness, unrealistic expectations, pursuing bad or false values, extreme goals, self centeredness and ADULTERY..
     
Prov 6:26  For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.
Prov 6:27  Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?
Prov 6:28  Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?
Prov 6:29  So he that goeth in to his neighbour’s wife; whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent.
Prov 6:30  Men do not despise a thief, if he steal to satisfy his soul when he is hungry;
Prov 6:31  But if he be found, he shall restore sevenfold; he shall give all the substance of his house.
Prov 6:32  But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.
Prov 6:33  A wound and dishonour shall he get; and his reproach shall not be wiped away.
Prov 6:34  For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.
Prov 6:35  He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gifts.

(Exo 20:14 KJV)  Thou shalt not commit adultery.

(Lev 20:10 KJV)  And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

(Deu 5:18 KJV)  Neither shalt thou commit adultery.

(Jer 3:8 KJV)  And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

(Jer 3:9 KJV)  And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.

(Jer 5:7 KJV)  How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots’ houses.

(Jer 7:9 KJV)  Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

(Jer 23:14 KJV)  I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

(Jer 29:23 KJV)  Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.

(Ezek 16:32 KJV)  But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

(Ezek 23:37 KJV)  That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands, and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their sons, whom they bare unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to devour them.

(Hosea 4:2 KJV)  By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.

(Hosea 4:13 KJV)  They sacrifice upon the tops of the mountains, and burn incense upon the hills, under oaks and poplars and elms, because the shadow thereof is good: therefore your daughters shall commit whoredom, and your spouses shall commit adultery.

(Mat 5:27 KJV)  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

(Mat 5:28 KJV)  But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

(Mat 5:32 KJV)  But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

(Mat 19:9 KJV)  And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

(Mat 19:18 KJV)  He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

(Mark 10:11 KJV)  And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

(Mark 10:12 KJV)  And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

(Mark 10:19 KJV)  Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

(Luke 16:18 KJV)  Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

(John 8:3 KJV)  And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

(John 8:4 KJV)  They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

(Rom 2:22 KJV)  Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

(Rom 13:9 KJV)  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

(Gal 5:19 KJV)  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

(James 2:11 KJV)  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

(2 Pet 2:14 KJV)  Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

(Rev 2:22 KJV)  Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

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Christian Divorce VS Remarriage

(Matthew 19:1 KJV)    And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;
2  And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.
3  The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4  And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5  And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6  Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7  They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8  He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9  And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10  His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
11  But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
12  For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
 
 
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The next sin to become falsey acceptable is..

For some reason, OFTEN ENCOURAGED TO DO SO BY THE FALSE PREACHERS, too many a professing Christian wrongfully still do think that God by grace will both overlook our ignorance , and sins.. even though there is no Bible verse to that effect.. God has already clearly now also said what a man sows, he will reap as a reward, both the good and the bad is included.. sow nothing and you will reap nothing… that applies to your home, marriage too..

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Giving in to the lust of the flesh is a sin, and thus that includes the unacceptable sins of divorce, homosexuality and polygamy..

I was surprised still as to how many times this topic of divorce, marriage now appears on other people’s searches.. yes, if you look hard enough you can eventually get the answer you want but not necessarily the right one.

FIRSTLY THE FAMILY, MARRIAGE & DIVORCE AND THE BIBLE TOO.

Without prior prayer to God and God’s help all one does will rather fail

The marriage, or the job, money, is not the priority, God firstly and his will is always still the priority
if two persons, husband and wife refuse to walk together with God, the marriage, their house will fall.. for a house divided cannot stand
the Husband is the sole head of the home.. and this is not an option, a pretense
if the wife abuses her husband God here on earth will punish her too in reality even with divorce and Christian or not
if the husband abuses his wife God will punish him here on earth and not hear his prayers
If the children disrespect their parents, they too will reap what they sow, God will, he punish them too.
(Isa 40:31 KJV) But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

Yes I know that at least 30 percent of evangelical Christians, including now Pentecostal ones, practice divorce, adultery but that does not make it right still

and FOR SURE Coke, sex, adultery, divorce, Coca-Cola, wine, alcohol, beer or what ever they they are not the answer to having a happy life! Following after Jesus Christ alone is!
Why are so many people still obsessed with fantasy, romance, divorce, drugs, alcohol, even TV, movies, sex, pleasure, pornography.. for most of them personally it is an initial lazy, false escapism approach from the too often real negative aspects of life that we firstly all tend to have, particularly due to our own unrepentant sins and due to Satan’s buffeting, harassment of them.. the grass may appear greener in the neighbors yard cause you do not know what hardships they are facing now, the supposedly rich persons included. While God for his faithful few give them the grace to endure hardships and even to overcome them, we are all nevertheless bound to have trails and tribulations, hardships, all of us.. Instead of personally first learning how to use the Bible to oppose Satan, obtain peace in their own life, too many persons turn to the flesh.. The problem also with the common graphic misrepresentation of the pleasure of sex but the reality is that even the Gays, lesbians, adulterers tend to have even more negative consequences, oppressions in their life to force them into deeper bondage with Satan.. Jesus sets us free from all that.

(Gal 5:16 KJV) This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

(Rom 7:5 KJV) For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

(Gal 5:19 KJV) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

(Rom 8:1 KJV) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Mark 10:19 You know the commandments: Do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.
Mark 10:1 AND [Jesus] left there [Capernaum] and went to the region of Judea and beyond [east of] the Jordan; and crowds [constantly] gathered around Him again, and as was His custom, He began to teach them again.
Mark 10:2 And some Pharisees came up, and, in order to test Him {and} try to find a weakness in Him, asked, Is it lawful for a man to dismiss {and} repudiate {and} divorce his wife?
Mark 10:3 He answered them, What did Moses command you?
Mark 10:4 They replied, Moses allowed a man to write a bill of divorce and to put her away.
Mark 10:5 But Jesus said to them, Because of your hardness of heart [your condition of insensibility to the call of God] he wrote you this precept in your Law.
Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of creation God made them male and female.
Mark 10:7 For this reason a man shall leave [behind] his father and his mother {and be} {joined to his wife and cleave closely to her permanently,}
Mark 10:8 And the two shall become one flesh, so that they are no longer two, but one flesh.
Mark 10:9 What therefore God has united (joined together), let not man separate {or} divide.
Mark 10:10 And indoors the disciples questioned Him again about this subject.
Mark 10:11 And He said to them, Whoever dismisses (repudiates and divorces) his wife and marries another commits adultery against her;
Mark 10:12 And if a woman dismisses (repudiates and divorces) her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.

Wrongfully too many even Christian Couples get more concerned about their standard of earthly living than the quality of their spiritual life. About having a good time over time spent with the Lord Jesus Christ. They neglect God, they in fact are having an affair with the world.. So next it naturally is not remarkable they will also commit marital affairs too. because they now next do get caught up in the supposedly stressful task of earning a living, getting ahead and do neglect God and each other. They now clearly do not have God’s provision, strength to handle life or their marriage.. They now also maybe are energized at work, but tired at home. The man supposedly is now too busy to give his wife the love she needs; or the wife neglects giving her husband and also the same the sexual attention he needs. The next thing they know , they both even fall into adulterous sexual temptation, and seem to have set each other up for an affair. 1 Corinthians 7:2-5. When the husband fails to give his wife the unique attention she needs and the wife fails to give her husband the unique attention he needs, they create a set of circumstances that gives the devil an opportunity to tempt them to go outside the marriage for what they should be providing for each other in the marriage. The solution firstly is getting back personally to God. Wounded marriages can be made whole but only if both off the spouses firstly get right with God. Too often that is not the case still.

Material and emotional neglect or even being abused by a spouse is not grounds for divorce, but any abuse it is ground for calling the police or martial separation.. material and emotional neglect is grounds for separation too.. unless you actually are the cause of it, the real instigator?
On clear Fools who think they can have a happy life, a happy marriage, can be doing their own thing, all without God too. Failure to daily read and to apply the Bible regularly as individuals and as couples seriously now leaves a point of spiritual vulnerability the devil can use to tear couples apart. Read the Bible together. In the population of people I counsel, I see less than 10 percent of the couples reading the Bible together. Failure to read the Bible regularly as individuals and as couples leaves a point of spiritual vulnerability the devil can use to tear couples apart. Pray together , do have a brief time of prayer together at the beginning of the day, end of the day, or both times—a prayer time WILL HELP YOU TO spiritually unite. Be always still loving, considerate, patient with, kind to each other. Learn to talk to each other, if you love someone you will talk to them.. Don’t try to force solutions to the problems per your demands, time, schedule even. But don’t deceive yourself into thinking problems you don’t deal with will go away. If you deny them and suppress them, they often will erode the foundation of your marriage and put distance between you. Be always verbally and physically affectionate with each other more than you are to theirs especially like your mother, father, brother and sister otherwise it will show how little you love them . . Don’t take each other for granted. Put each other before your children. God called you to be married before He called you to be a parent. Guard your conversation even from language that sends the wrong kind of message to your spouse.

Do not let the sun go done on your anger, hurts, learn how to deal with it, to resolve them. Forgiveness happens as an ongoing act of one’s will, committment. The guilty spouse must ask the offended spouse for forgiveness. The offended spouse must take the step of accepting the apology and granting forgiveness. And here if you do not forgive God will not forgive you next too. We all have many things we daily need God’s forgiveness for too.

Immediately after a forced separation this is a very dangerous time in the recovery process. Couples separated more than 3 days ate rarefy reconciled next, or healed. A lesson we learn from this is that the pleasure of an adulterous relationship, pleasure of self centeredness is never worth the price that next has to be paid for it!

Dream on if most of you falsely still think a new marriage may be better too.. rarely is it the case..

Now we should all know that adultery is a sin and one has to repent of it lest a worse thing next happens to them, like even more shame and more public humiliations even!!!

Clearly (Gal 6:7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.

(Luke 12:3 KJV) Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

Luke 16:18 Whoever divorces (dismisses and repudiates) his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman who is divorced from her husband commits adultery.

“For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away…” -Malachi 2:16

“Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” -Matthew 19:6

Divorce and remarriages is always is a sin! Perhaps you may try to think that marriage is the “old fashioned” way. The first marriage is the “right and only way”

To divorce your spouse is always a sin, and you will also be responsible for their sinning if they remarry. But you can’t be held responsible for your spouse if they’re already committing the sin on their own.

According to some reliable sources, more married married women these days now have had an affair during the course of their marriage over the married men, Such acts on part of men or women are never acceptable. God still does makes people to pay a terrible price for destroying a home. Some few people fortunately do learn the terrible price adultery extracts from everyone involved and readily conclude that whatever pleasure may be involved is never worth the price: the loss of fellowship with the Lord; potential loss of spouse and children; and, embarrassment and humiliation among friends. King David was one of them. He David confessed his sins to God and God forgive him, but he still paid negative consequences as a result too.

Psalm 39:1 A Psalm of David. I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.
2 I was dumb with silence, I held my peace, even from good; and my sorrow was stirred.
3 My heart was hot within me, while I was musing the fire burned: then spake I with my tongue,
4 LORD, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am.
5 Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah.
6 Surely every man walketh in a vain show: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth up riches, and knoweth not who shall gather them.
7 And now, Lord, what wait I for? my hope is in thee.
8 Deliver me from all my transgressions: make me not the reproach of the foolish.
9 I was dumb, I opened not my mouth; because thou didst it.
10 Remove thy stroke away from me: I am consumed by the blow of thine hand.
11 When thou with rebukes dost correct man for iniquity, thou makest his beauty to consume away like a moth: surely every man is vanity. Selah.
12 Hear my prayer, O LORD, and give ear unto my cry; hold not thy peace at my tears: for I am a stranger with thee, and a sojourner, as all my fathers were.
13 O spare me, that I may recover strength, before I go hence, and be no more.

If your spouse continues to commit adultery and is unrepentant, you next either divorce them or separate from them.. but you no longer live with them. Matthew 5:32, Jesus said, “But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.“

Mark 10:20 And he replied to Him, Teacher, I have carefully guarded {and} observed all these {and} taken care not to violate them from my boyhood. 21 And Jesus, looking upon him, loved him, and He said to him, You lack one thing; go and sell all you have and give [the money] to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come [and] accompany Me [walking the same road that I walk].

Mark 10:23 And Jesus looked around and said to His disciples, With what difficulty will those who possess wealth {and} keep on holding it enter the kingdom of God!
Great spiritual men who clearly had bad wives but still they were not a reflection on the husband personally!

(Mat 10:36 KJV) And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

It does not say might be, can be.. but it says will be..

(Micah 3:5 KJV) Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.

King David’s wife (2 Sam 6:12 KJV) And it was told king David, saying, The LORD hath blessed the house of Obededom, and all that pertaineth unto him, because of the ark of God. So David went and brought up the ark of God from the house of Obededom into the city of David with gladness. 13 And it was so, that when they that bare the ark of the LORD had gone six paces, he sacrificed oxen and fatlings. 14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod. 15 So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet. 16 And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul’s daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart. 17 And they brought in the ark of the LORD, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the LORD. 18 And as soon as David had made an end of offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the LORD of hosts. 19 And he dealt among all the people, even among the whole multitude of Israel, as well to the women as men, to every one a cake of bread, and a good piece of flesh, and a flagon of wine. So all the people departed every one to his house. 20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! 21 And David said unto Michal, It was before the LORD, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel: therefore will I play before the LORD. 22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour. 23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

and Job’s wife too.. (Job 2:10 KJV) But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

and we condemnation of have Lot’s bad wife.. but there is no direct biblical condemnation now about Lot..
(Luke 17:32 KJV) Remember Lot’s wife. (Luke 17:33 KJV) Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. (Luke 17:34 KJV) I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

(Lev 21:7 KJV) They shall not take a wife that is a whore, or profane; neither shall they take a woman put away from her husband: for he is holy unto his God.

A great prophet had even married and slept with a prostitute at God’s command..

(Hosea 1:2 KJV) The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.

Before you non hypocritically now try to change, correct, rebuke your spouse, you must first insure that you yourself now are also are right before God, that you have dealt with your owns sins, cause rightfully next all of your words will be hollow, not ring true, will be infective still.. reality!!! If there are changes to be made God is the one who will do it next too.

All Christians cannot Marry any Non Christians or get divorced or commit Polygamy.

Historically, biblically In the New Testament times, Bible there was also no practice of polygamy amongst any of the Christians or the apostles, church leaders.
Polygamy ALSO IS A SIN, is wrong because it necessarily involves adultery. That is why it and homosexuality is not specifically banned anywhere in the New testament Bible – because it is covered by the applicable old testament laws that deal with adultery and homosexuality .

If you have sex with someone other than your wife then it is adultery, and simply going through a ceremony, even if it is legally valid, cannot make that second woman into a wife in the eyes of God.

Adultery is stealing the sex that does not belong to you, it belongs to another man or women.

99.9 percent of the Christians have never practiced polygamy for centuries now too and that alone should have been quite explicit the clear condemnation of polygamy.

(Lev 21:7 KJV) They shall not take a wife that is a whore, or profane; neither shall they take a woman put away from her husband: for he is holy unto his God.

In the ongoing secular societies of today sex sins, specially sex outside of marriage, adultery is personally still taken much too lightly, but these sins for Christians also do have real, serious negative consequences, the disapproval of God clearly indicated now in the Bible. In reality when one has indulged in adultery, one has tended to also simultaneously or previously indulged in many other unacceptable sins now too. Over 55 percent of evangelical pastors have committed adultery now too in North America… and it is no wonder they wrongfully tend to counsel divorce too.

The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein. (Proverbs 22:14 KJV)

Don’t even look at any “strange women.” If you do, you will utter perverse things. Proverbs 23:33

(Exo 20:14 KJV) Thou shalt not commit adultery.

GOD STILL DOES PUNISH THE SIN OF ADULTERY/POLYGAMY

Jesus says that to marry another, other than your first, is adultery (Mark 10:1-12). In Matthew 19:8, Jesus clearly says that if a man divorces a women other than for marital unfaithfulness,and marries another women it is deemed adultery. In such a context, can a man have more than one wife ?

Mark 10:1-12 Anyone arguing for the acceptability of polygamy must deal with Jesus’ explicit statement: “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.” Taking another spouse is adultery against the first spouse.

It is also simply a non sequitur to suggest that because the narrator does not comment on the polygamous practices of the patriarchs, the narrator therefore approves of them.
“27‘Y ou have heard that it was said, “You shall not commit adultery.” 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Matthew 5.27,28

Yes it in the New Testament sin means having sex wrongfully with someone you are not entitled to have sex with

In Jesus’ teaching on divorce, He pinpoints God’s original intent on marriage. Consider: “6 But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ 7 ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, 8and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh.” Mark 10.6-8

“1 Now King Solomon loved many foreign women, along with the daughter of Pharaoh: Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian, and Hittite women, 2from the nations concerning which the LORD had said to the people of Israel, ‘You shall not enter into marriage with them, neither shall they with you, for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods.’ Solomon clung to these in love. 3He had 700 wives, princesses, and 300 concubines. And his wives turned away his heart… 9And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart had turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice” 1 Kings 11.1-3, 9

Just because we CAN do any thing does not mean we should. Solomon knew right from wrong. And he chose the latter.

“Does God endorse sin?” and the answer is *no*. God never endorses sin because if He did it would be a contradiction and God would not be a perfect God of righteousness. God can never encourage sin, but He can allow or permit sin to flourish.

“3And David came to his house at Jerusalem. And the king took the ten concubines whom he had left to care for the house and put them in a house under guard and provided for them, but did not go in to them. So they were shut up until the day of their death, living as if in widowhood.” 2 Samuel 20.3

Not only did David not have a sexual relationship with them, he also did not have a marriage relationship with them. Thus, he preserved his monogamous relationship with Bathsheeba.

polygamy is not condoned or allowed in the Bible because it goes against God’s very plan for the marriage covenant, the union of one male and one female to become one flesh, and because it is an act of adultery. Those who point to examples of David, Solomon, and other Old Testament saints have made the mistake that a report of what took place is equal to the sanctioning of an event. As we can see, this inference is not at all necessary to make, and is quite a logical jump. In fact, if we pause to consider the teaching of tota scriptura, all of Scripture, we see that polygamy is expressly forbidden and that these individuals were sinning against God.

When God created Adam, and saw it was not good for him to be alone, God gave Adam a wife—one wife, not three or seven. This alone should be enough to persuade us of the wrongness of polygamy. Yet polygamy existed in patriarchal times. And when we look at the lives of the patriarchs, it is more than obvious that their polygamous lives did not produce good fruit. Abraham’s polygamy with Hagar produced envy and strife in his family (Gen. 16:6, 21:8-10). Jacob’s two wives produced a harvest of envy, competition, resentment, and fraternal hatred (Gen. 29-31, 36-37). Polygamy is not portrayed in a positive light in the patriarchs.
http://thisblogchoseyou.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/polygamy-and-the-bible/

God in the New Testament DID not tell us to practice monogamy as we see in
(Eph 5:22 KJV) Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
(Eph 5:23 KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
(Eph 5:24 KJV) Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
(Eph 5:25 KJV) Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
(Eph 5:26 KJV) That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
(Eph 5:27 KJV) That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
(Eph 5:28 KJV) So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
(Eph 5:29 KJV) For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
(Eph 5:30 KJV) For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
(Eph 5:31 KJV) For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two ( not 2 or more) shall be one flesh.
(Eph 5:32 KJV) This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
(Eph 5:33 KJV) Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife ( singular) even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
(1 Tim 3:2 KJV) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
(1 Tim 3:12 KJV) Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
(Titus 1:6 KJV) If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

Polygamy wasn’t included before ‘Paradise was Lost‘. As we see in Adam and Eve (not plural Eves, Nor Adam and Steve too), and the general guideline for marriage ((Gen 2:24 KJV) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife:9 Singular and nto polral too) and they shall be one flesh. 25 And they were both ( just 2) naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.) where we see that monogamy was God’s perfect will.
God in the Old testament had permitted many things, such as divorce (Matthew 5:31-32; Mark 10:2-12), being that their hearts were hard. But not in the New Testament now..

Still 1 Kings 11 shows that Polygamy is quite foolish. Joining yourself with multiple people has spiritual, psychological and applicational problems.

http://apologetiks.com/2008/05/14/the-bibles-view-on-polygamy/

The false trend toward greater acceptance of sin:

As time progresses, American culture becomes acceptant of behaviors that our forefathers would have renounced adamantly.
Some of the first behaviors to be accepted culturally were adultery [sex outside the bonds of matrimony], cohabitation [an unwed couple living together], and pornography. Originally considered both shameful and illegal, adultery and cohabitation are now widely practiced and accepted both legally and culturally. Pornography is not only legal, but widely popular in every sector of our society.

Abortion has become widely accepted both culturally and legally. Prior to 1973, many people did not even know what abortion was. Even after its legalization, most condemned it personally, but often felt it should still be a private decision. Now this atrocity to our unborn is widely accepted and practiced all across America.
Prostitution has become viewed less shamefully than it had in the past. One county in our nation has legalized prostitution.
Homosexuality is now accepted as a normal form of sexuality. First the American Psychiatric Association declared it was no longer a disease. Then the public began to accept it as “normal”. And in 2004, the courts said that homosexuals should be allowed to marry one another.

The Bible tells us that those who fail to glorify God will accept and practice increasing sin:
“Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.”[Romans 1:32]

Polygamy: the next false sin to be accepted?

Is polygamy next? After that, what will be the next sins that our society will accept? Shall we also accept group marriages, and pedophilia? Where does it end?

What the Bible says:
The Bible clearly gives God’s intent for marriage and sexuality. God created our bodies for Him, not so that we can do with it whatever we want. God’s will is that no one would use their body in any way contrary to His plan.
“The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.” [I Corinthians 6:13] “Therefore, honor God with your body.” [I Corinthians 6:20]
“The precepts of the LORD are right, giving joy to the heart.” [Psalm 19:8]
Let us not forget what God did to the towns of Sodom and Gomorrah:
“In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire”. [Jude 7]
“Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah-from the LORD out of the heavens.” [Genesis 19:24]
http://www.eadshome.com/polygamy.htm
Read the Bible, all of it and the references

GOD STILL DOES PUNISH THE SIN OF ADULTERY/POLYGAMY http://pbulow.tripod.com/adultery.html http://pbulow.tripod.com/polygamy.htm

Generally these days it is the wife who wrongfully files for divorce, and before that it used to be the men. These days the too often dirty lawyers who make blood money from divorce, are wolves in sheep clothing now picturing themselves and the spouse to the courts, as good persons, decent, honest, reliable, falsely claiming her now to be a totally good , honest person, and not another typical liar too.

The lawyers who tend to be too often liars themselves they like to present the female spouse before the Queen’s courts, before the supposedly reputable judge, who in my witness, experiences actual too often is also now a liar, pretender himself, a person who does not get off the bench cause he is too lazy to ascertain the truth of the facts being presented to him or her.

The lawyers like to present the wife as a decent, respected, good, moral person who now has provided faithfully for her husband, she did not, does not abuse any them not even her bad husband, she does not cheat, lie or steal now as well.

The still mostly liars like to present her as an a good person, whereas more likely in reality she also is another demon. In fact men and women tend to be equal sinners, before God and man. In fact the same spouse she likely has slandered, lied, committed adultery, even stole from her spouse and now she will keep on lying, perjuring herself hoping next to get a good alimony support from her spouse.

Many a person when they see these people divorcing they really tend next not to recognize them and their behavior, for it clearly is different from what they had known before, were used too in fact.

All of a sudden clearly new now openly monsters here have arisen. In reality the wife is not the mostly innocent, the sole injured party and the husband is not the sole bad guy, villain too.

All of these mostly immoral, lying now people, bad pastors, bad spouses, bad lawyers, bad judges tend to first need decent, real, pastoral counseling themselves.
Christian Lies, Divorce And/or Christian Divorce Remarriage, (as well as adultery, fornication , Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, gays) In the Christian Church are ALL still unacceptable.

do see also
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/god-speaks/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/the-problemed-family/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/favorite-christian-based-reading-resources/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/how-to-deal-with-the-negative-circumstances-in-your-life/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/unfaithful/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-false-divorce-incentives/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/it-is-not-good-for-the-man-to-dwell-alone/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/friendly-friends-soulmate-friendship-companion/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/money-the-root-of-all-evil/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/more-about-control-freaks/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/can-a-non-christian-marry-an-christian/

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Deliberate or unintentional Mis-communications?

Now fundamentals, others try to limit God’s Word(s) as being the Bible itself. But at the time of Jesus Christ the people had  heard the Word itself, they heard Jesus Christ directly now. And the spirit of Christ  the Holy spirit speaks to men and women, children everywhere today as well. Do see also http://pbulow.tripod.com/voice.html 
 
Luke 8:5 A sower went out to sow seed; and as he sowed, some fell along the traveled path and was trodden underfoot, and the birds of the air ate it up. 6 And some [seed] fell on the rock, and as soon as it sprouted, it withered away because it had no moisture. 7  And other [seed] fell in the midst of the thorns, and the thorns grew up with it and choked it [off]. 8 And some seed fell into good soil, and grew up and yielded a crop a hundred times [as great]. As He said these things, He called out, He who has ears to hear, let him be listening {and} let him consider {and} understand by hearing! 9  And when His disciples asked Him the meaning of this parable, 10 He said to them, To you it has been given to [come progressively to] know (to recognize and understand more strongly and clearly) the mysteries {and} secrets of the kingdom of God, but for others they are in parables, so that, [though] looking, they may not see; and hearing, they may not comprehend. 11  Now the meaning of the parable is this: The seed is the Word of God. 12  Those along the traveled road are the people who have heard; then the devil comes and carries away the message out of their hearts, that they may not believe (acknowledge Me as their Savior and devote themselves to Me) and be saved [here and hereafter]. 13  And those upon the rock [are the people] who, when they hear [the Word], receive {and} welcome it with joy; but these have no root. They believe for a while, and in time of trial {and} temptation fall away (withdraw and stand aloof). 14  And as for what fell among the thorns, these are [the people] who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked {and} suffocated with the anxieties {and} cares and riches and pleasures of life, and their fruit does not ripen (come to maturity and perfection). 15 But as for that [seed] in the good soil, these are [the people] who, hearing the Word, hold it fast in a just (noble, virtuous) and worthy heart, and steadily bring forth fruit with patience.
 
(1 Cor 13:10 KJV)  But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.  (1 Cor 13:12 KJV)  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.              

But still some would lie and distort  the above verses to mean   there is no more need for Jesus Christ to speak through His Spirit these days for we have the written Word, the Bible these days. Yes when we shall see Jesus face to face in Heaven , it all will be done away but now we have both his Word  the Bible and his Holy Spirit now too to teach us, instruct us, guide us,
 
and

Luke 8:17 For there is nothing hidden that shall not be disclosed, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come out into the open.
 
and it is not how much of the Bible you read that counts but rather how much you do practise..

 
Luke 8:18 Be careful therefore how you listen. For to him who has [spiritual knowledge] will more be given; and from him who does not have [spiritual knowledge], even what he thinks {and} guesses {and} supposes that he has will be taken away.    
 

 

19 Then Jesus’ mother and His brothers came along toward Him, but they could not get to Him because of the crowd.   20 And it was told Him, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, desiring to have an interview with You. 21 But He answered them, My mother and My brothers are those who listen to the Word of God and do it! 

  
 Insiders knew that the Latter rain Canadian evangelist in Lakeland Florida Rev Todd Bentley had gone of the deep end a long time ago much time before it became public, as usual too.. but they could not hide it forever.. 
 
Now some persons falsely try to imply that even God was surprised by what had happened  at the Revival at Lakeland Florida! He was not.              

Luke 8:22 One of those days He and His disciples got into a boat, and He said to them, Let us go across to the other side of the lake. So they put out to sea.  23 But as they were sailing, He fell off to sleep. And a whirlwind revolving from below upwards swept down on the lake, and the boat was filling with water, and they were in great danger. 24 And the disciples came and woke Him, saying, Master, Master, we are perishing! And He, being thoroughly awakened, censured {and} blamed {and} rebuked the wind and the raging waves; and they ceased, and there came a calm. 25 And He said to them, [Why are you so fearful?] Where is your faith (your trust, your confidence in Me–in My veracity and My integrity)? And they were seized with alarm {and} profound {and} reverent dread, and they marveled, saying to one another, Who then is this, that He commands even wind and sea, and they obey Him?
 
Yes sadly some even in the news media plays the ostrich game too but that is what is great about the net.. I expose everyone to all.. now they cannot hide it anymore..                 

>>Firstly, 1 Timothy contains instruction that would encourage elders (pastors) to be appointed who are not young men – promote not a novice. From what I have read although Timothy is referred to as a young man, he was probably in his late twenties or early thirties … How old was Michael when he was appointed and anointed for ministry?
 

 

 I have been contemplating about this only the last 4 decades now ever since my first encounter with a perverse pastor.. a perverse church, perverse office and engineering managers, and perverse politicians, bad cops.. and the AGE ITSELF IS NOT THE ISSUE..    
 
1 You know firstly Garbage in, means garbage out, if you hired a bad person, especially your bad friends now,  for the job you will get bad results.. covering it up makes matters worse as next is often the case still too everywhere.
  
2 Now even if few like it still all good bad bad people need to be supervised, managed, not left totally on their own, and that includes now pastors, cops, politicians, doctors, nurses, professionals, etc., for self regulation is merely another world for me for masturbation.. not effective management
  
Furthermore exemplary punishing the bad guys next by firing them, starting with the top managers works best, as we see being done with Bell, BCE, Sympatico after their recent takeover now too.. Exemplary Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty persons serves everyone’s best deterrent, and Todd Bentley has been fired. But not before as too often typical covered up..       

No one is doing a friend a favour by lying, covering-up for him.. open rebuke is better than secret love for them too… those whom I love I chasten and rebuke too.. but there are still too many ostriches in the churches.. one church next took 5 years to see the pastor’s unacceptable sins that I saw in the first month, before they did what I would have done immediately too.. they fired him
 

 IT IS NOW MORE  RARE BUT I DO ALSO NOW STILL GET BULLIED BY RELIGIOUS BULLIES, ABUSERS TOO..  not just by the past bad cops
 
The WRONGFULLY STILL Unrepentant  bully’s problem is that he or she is one of those bad persons  who only feels truly alive when voicing hostility and contempt for his “enemies.” Without that, he or she starts gasping for air. It’s his nature.. self-destructive” ..  clearly these immoral  Bully, Basher of others, Abusers of others has a disappointed, deflated ego, negative self worth,  most likely related to past unresolved guilt, as a result  of  that   the bully, he or she, tries falsely to   build  their ego up by bashing, hating others, by being an antagonists against  his proclaimed enemies, which too often also  is most people , for  he or she no longer trust anyone, and Abusers this is a common very typical approach, fact in the character build up of Bullies, Bashers, but their approach is futile, the subsequent feeling of self worth dissipates too quickly, are actually replaced by guilt,  and his ego, self worth likely needs to be recharged with new hate.. and is replaced with more and larger hatred of the others.  I have seen this type of wrong behavior not just in bad managers, bad politicians, bad persons, but  in alcoholics, and most often in Albertan rednecks ,but also  in religious   fundamentals evangelicals who promote hated towards Pentecostal Christians as well, and  now as well as the crooked pastor wrongfully  fighting for control over others. Public exposure and prosecution of these bad persons here too services everyone’s best interest.

 

 

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https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/deliberate-or-unintentional-mis-communications/

Can a non Christian Marry a Christian?

Clearly the New testament says no, and no more now  than any Christian can have any sex outside of marriage now too,  and Like it or not, but why?

(1 Cor 6:15 KJV)  Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 16    What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
 
(2 Cor 6:14 KJV)  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15  And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 7:1  Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.    
  
(1 Cor 10:21 KJV)  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.
 
(1 Cor 5:9 KJV)  I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 9  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 
It has been my own witness now too that every true Christian that disobeyed God and married an unchristian next ended in divorce anyway.
 
 

(1 Cor 10:22 KJV)  Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
(1 Cor 10:23 KJV)  All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
 
2 Corinthians 6:14:  Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

(1 Tim 5:14 KJV)  I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.15   For some are already turned aside after Satan.

1 Corinthians 7:39 A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord.

Repentance is in order..

Matthew 5:28 “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”

(1 Cor 10:8 KJV)  Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.

Mark 7:21 “For from within, out of men’s hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery,”

Marriage is the second most important decision anyone ever makes. And what was the most important? A career? No. The most important decision is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.  In fact troubled relationships due to religious differences eventually tend to dissolve the marriage and so today, thousands of Christian men and women stand on the threshold of loneliness and discouragement because their husband or wife is not a Christian.  http://www.ncfliving.org/bk_117_nonchristian1.php
“Do not intermarry with them, and don’t let your daughters and sons marry their sons and daughters. They will lead your young people away from me to worship other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and he will destroy you.” (Deuteronomy 7:3-4)
“Don’t team up with those who are unbelievers. How can goodness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness?” (2 Corinthians 6:14)
 (Rom 13:9 KJV)  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.   
1 Cor 15:33 Do not be so deceived {and} misled! Evil companionships (communion, associations) corrupt {and} deprave good manners {and} morals {and} character.

Gal 6:7 Do not be deceived {and} deluded {and} misled; God will not allow Himself to be sneered at (scorned, disdained, or mocked by mere pretensions or professions, or by His precepts being set aside.)   For whatever a man sows, that  is (also)  what he will reap. ( he can  reap too what others have sowed now too)

2 Tim 3:13 But wicked men and imposters will go on from bad to worse, deceiving {and} leading astray others and being deceived {and} led astray themselves.

Deuteronomy 22:10 Do not plow with an ox and a donkey yoked together.

 

Linking side by side two different species of different height and gait, and making them pull together, would be an act of cruelty.

Leviticus 19:19 . . . Do not mate different kinds of animals. . . .

John 14:15, 21, 23-24 says:  If you love me, you will obey what I command. … Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him. …. If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

NOW IF YOU THINK YOUR SPOUSE IS NON PERFECT, OR THEY ARE A NON CHRISTIAN, YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT, TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT.. pray for them .. NOT FALSELY FILE  FOR DIVORCE.. it is as a simple as that too. Only in heaven when we are married to Jesus will we have the perfect marriage, the perfect father, the perfect brother.
 
see also

 

 

 

 

Generally these days it is the wife who wrongfully files for divorce, and  before that it used to be the men.  These days the too often dirty lawyers who make blood money from divorce, are wolves in sheep clothing now picturing themselves and  the spouse to the courts, as good persons, decent, honest, reliable, falsely claiming her now to be a totally good , honest person, and not another typical  liar too.
 
The lawyers who tend to be too often liars themselves they like to present the female spouse before the Queen’s courts, before the supposedly reputable judge, who in my witness, experiences actual too often is also now a liar, pretender himself, a person  who does not get off the bench cause he is too lazy to ascertain the truth of the facts being presented to him or her.
 
The lawyers like to present the wife as a decent, respected, good, moral person who now has provided faithfully  for her husband, she did not, does not abuse any them not even her bad  husband, she does not cheat, lie or steal now as well.
 
The still mostly  liars like to present her as an a good person, whereas more likely in reality  she also is another demon. In fact men and women tend to be equal sinners, before God and man. In fact the same spouse she likely has slandered, lied, committed adultery, even stole from her spouse and now she will keep on lying, perjuring herself hoping next to get a good alimony support from her spouse.
 
Many a person  when they see these people divorcing they really tend next not to recognize them and their behavior, for it clearly is different from what they had known before, were used too in fact.  
 
All of a sudden clearly new now  openly monsters here have arisen.  In reality  the wife is not the mostly   innocent, the sole injured party and the husband is not the sole bad guy, villain too.
 
All of these mostly immoral,  lying now people, bad pastors, bad spouses, bad lawyers, bad judges tend to first need decent, real, pastoral counseling themselves.
  Christian Lies, Divorce And/or  Christian Divorce  Remarriage, (as well as adultery, fornication , Alcoholism, drugs, smoking, gays)  In the Christian Church are ALL still unacceptable.
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The ungodly, unholy wars now amongst Christians

Threats of law suits..
 
The ungodly, unholy wars now amongst Christians and on the net are still all shameful.. even those bad Persons who profess to be Christians but use the courts to dissolve their marriage over pastoral counseling

 

   

 
These days Bashers, Bullies, Preachers, evangelists seem to react the same way threatening to report you to the others next even for posting the truth on their site .. I know it had FALSELY happened this week to me on a professing Christian site too that likes to promote hatred against the others, even against the  Pentecostal, Pentecostal  preachers too.” Some people wrongfully try to make themselves feel better by getting dirt on others, but that is a futile ,vain,  empty approach firstly.
 
“One lady who does a radio show told me that she was threatened with legal action after merely cautioning her listeners to see what the Bible says and compare it to what Warren says in his book. Sounds like good advice to me, and if I had been Rick, I’d have said “amen”, but the person who contacted her in Warren’s defense scared her enough that she put a lawyer on the case. Think about it: Have you ever heard of Billy Graham followers going after his detractors like that?”  http://laiglesforum.com/2008/08/18/302/#comment-17047

 

 

It clearly makes me know that Satan himself is behind most of it still too and this itself is ALL typical the acts of an ungodly person  themselves now.. 

 
But remember God judges your own motives now still too.
 
If your brother sins against you go to your brother alone. But firstly in prayer to God, all done in  in love, in Meekness, humbleness, and NOT RATHER YOU trying to increase your internet rating, readership by making sinful sensationalized postings which itself is still hypocritical.. 
 
 Especially when not all the supposedly objectionable replies to the sites now are even allowed to be posted as well
 
(1 Cor 6:1 KJV)  Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3  Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4  If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5  I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6  But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7  Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8  Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
12  All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
13  Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
14  And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15  Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16  What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17  But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18  Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19  What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20  For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.
 
https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/thou-considerest-not-the-beam-that-is-in-thine-own-eye/
https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/unbelievable-the-internet-control-freaks-false-spin-doctors/
https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/fundamental-evangelical-and-supposedly-professing-christian-critics/  
https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/disturbing-trend-sensationalized-religious-postings/
 https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/apt-to-teach/  
https://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/08/19/adultery/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/selling-the-gospel-for-money-too/
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by thenonconformer on August 28, 2008  •  Permalink
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Posted by thenonconformer on August 28, 2008

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My readers top topic of interest this year in preference order.

Topic
-Healing Evangelist Todd Bentley
-Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Church dispute
-Christian and Missionary Alliance Denomination dispute
-Class action suit against   dirty, bad  BCE, Sympatico 
-The too common abusive silent treatment
-Verbal abuse is always unacceptable too.
Control freaks

-alcoholism the unacceptable sin
– The Tithe
-Exemplary versus Bad Church pastors, bad deacons, bad elders
-Laying of hands, Impartation, Breathe  of the Holy spirit, Trinity, the anointing, Pentecostalism
-Great links, great Christian literature, Bible versed wallpapers
–God can speak to us today in many ways? Hearing God!
Deliberate unforgiveness                   

-How many rich people in Calgary, Edmonton
-About me
-Messianic Judaism, Jews
    
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by thenonconformer on August 23, 2008  •  Permalink
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Posted by thenonconformer on August 23, 2008

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